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DITW 11-2: Bonjoubar

🕑 Added 2023-07-15 01:00:02 +0000 UTC

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L.

Wow: “And here’s the truth: Josh knows everything and Josh will be home when you get home tonight, and you’ll eat dinner together and you’ll climb into bed together, and before you guys go to sleep you’ll both play a fantasy behind your sleepy eyes, one where Kimmy is in charge, Kimmy is kicking ass, Kimmy is making all the money, and her daddy loves her more than her sister, and she has the best sex of her life three or four times a week, and she goes home and her husband orders take-out and rubs her feet, and they watch movies together and cuddle”. Cruel, yet true. Amazing writing.

CSH

It’s really neat how none of us are surprised that the chapter starts with “Devlin revolted her.” And ends with, “She put her cold hand in his and he guided her …. into the alley.”

Tim ziegler

Run Josh Run!

L_S87

I think its less about "satisfactory" in the subjective manner of "liking" the ending and more along the lines of it "making sense" (Or thats my take on it). While neither Cherry Blossoms or Learning Lessons was enjoyable or happy, they did make sense. I think some of us feel like past actions and statements from Josh and others would make certain outcomes, while dark and inline with some of KTs past stories, unsatisfactory due to them not making sense because they would seem to ignore previous parts of the story. It's one of the challenges of having a 10+ part series. Everything has to be cohesive, and that can be a challenge. I trust KT to live up to it because she's amazing, but it's a pitfall I've seen other authors fall prey to. Important to note that "making sense" can also be subjective.

L_S87

It is. While I disagree with several of CSH's assertions, that's the great thing, dark as they may be, about these types of stories from KT. Nothing is cut and dry, so much is in shadows that many things are open to interpretation or conjecture. It allows for a lot of different view points and opinions, all of which may be wrong at the end of it because KT is so good at obfuscation.

Donkatsu

KT's epics, including this one, Cherry Blossoms and Losing His Wife, do not necessarily end in a satisfactory manner. A common theme of the three: the husbands have childish pursuits - video games, model electric trains, children's books. {Jonny, too, but KT seems content to leave him caged as condign punishment}

Tracey52

I think Devlin is largely correct in what he says, but Kimmy’s deception is going to be difficult for Josh to accept unless he continues to ignore it. However, I don’t see how that could be a satisfactory conclusion to the story.

Tracey52

It’s certainly a tangled web.

CSH

This was well done KT, exactly the conversation Devlin had to have with her. The calculated but genuine admission of fault. It’s manipulative but only in the way Kimmy wants to be manipulated. I think Devlin hit the nail on the head for once. All those things he said are true and the truth is the most powerful weapon for manipulation. Now we get the payoff. Evil bitch Kimmy will rock Josh’s world. If Kimmy consciously embraces what Devlin wants and what Josh needs, the erotic possibilities will be endless. It doesn’t need to be 100% on all the time. Shifting back and forth between sweet loving Kimmy and evil Kimmy would be sharply painful for Josh, just the way he likes it. Giving him just enough of the old Kimmy to make him suffer when she takes it away from him again. As a tool of the story, I admit to liking the failure of Josh and Kimmy to openly discuss what they are doing. The uncertainty makes it even more erotic and Josh craves this uncertainty as much as the pain. It allows him a strange state of simultaneously being the passive victim of his mistress/wife while blaming himself as ultimately responsible for creating her evil persona with his fetishism. Not the way any sane marriage should work in real life, mind you, but It makes for a really great story. Once Josh eventually sees the truth with his own eyes, the pregnancy can be folded in if Kimmy simply never discusses with Josh exactly how she got pregnant.

L_S87

Well... we knew the inevitable was coming. I wonder what Devlin's plans are with this scenario and how Josh plays into it. As amazing as Kimmy is at manipulating Josh, Devlin is almost as good at manipulating her. Just enough truth in what he says that it all comes across as believable, even if half if it is lies, or at best, conjecture. The real problem here is that Kimmy wants to be that person Devlin describes. She enjoyed it SO MUCH. It just takes a little nudge to get her headed back where she wants to be and ignore the fact that someone who actually thought she didn't do anything wrong wouldn't have spent these last few weeks acting the way Josh did. Oh, sure, his dark kink likes some of it, but you don't describe someone as having thrust a dagger in your heart if they "did nothing wrong". I'm waiting to see if this is a house of cards, awaiting collapse, or a house of horrors. A horror where Josh is trapped by Kimmy who decides she wants the strong Kimmy that Devlin describes more than she wants happiness for her husband that she... "loves".


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