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DITW 11-17: Untitled

🕑 Added 2023-09-27 00:00:03 +0000 UTC

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Andrew Mellein

It was a family with two small children. I didn’t want Jess to divorce Pete and destroy that family (I usually reread KT’s other books but the characters in LL felt too real that I have no wish to reread it again even though the ending is gold) for such a jock unemployed loser!

Kat

I can totally see that, KT. This stuff with Hyun is worse than it is with Josh. She is totally innocent, and has no business getting involved in this. Kimmy’s need to keep and control Josh is just messing up everyone. If Hyun is as private and sensitive as I assume she is, something like could really destroy her. These chapters must be the hardest for you to write so far in this whole saga. I wonder what she’s going to feel like the next day, or soon when she realizes Kimmy’s really not into her at all. It’s just so rotten. She’s Sophie’s mom, and Kimmy supposedly loves that kid. She’s not even thinking about how this might mess up little Sophie’s life, except her generosity in not leaving the large dildo at the front door where Sophie might find it. WTF? That’s all Kimmy cares about…how it will affect her. Everyone else, even her little niece, is just collateral damage.

L_S87

Well, KT, if it's any solace, at least it makes you a good human being to struggle with the complete corruption and deception of what is ostensibly one of the most innocent and sweet characters you've written. As much as we push on Josh not deserving what's being done to him, holy hell, Hyun is in another league. Between that and finding a way to write the weird dichotomy of a Kimmy who loves but is despicably selfish is quite the achievement. I know a lot want to see her get her comeuppance, which she totally deserves, yet I'm conflicted. Any scenario involving that level of anguish means Josh and Hyun will be subjected to similar levels of agony. Something they don't particularly deserve. You've got your work cut out for you, KT!

L_S87

Good! I prefer the "original" as well. It wasn't happy, but it wasn't devastating. Basically playing with fire created some permanent scars, but no irreparable damage.

KT Morrison

I agree! It ended where it ended, and that Easter Egg was a fun experiment.

KT Morrison

@Kat "I feel so badly for Hyun. We don’t know much about her, but I’m guessing she is lonely, and not comfortable with coming out publicly, which adds to her loneliness. She can’t resist what Kimmy’s offering, and Kimmy knows that and is cruelly leading her on. Kimmy said to herself that she doesn’t have any real attraction to Hyun, or at least the kind that Hyun wants." — This is why these scenes have been so hard to write!

L_S87

I think Devlin is holding that as his trump card to get what he wants from Kimmy. "You stop having sex with me and I'll tell Josh *everything*". It's the one way I can see that Kimmy would allow herself to be bullied, because losing Josh isn't acceptable. While, yes, Devlin has told Josh some, and implied more, there are certain truths that he knows would kill Josh, and so does Kimmy. There's a world of difference between "We had sex at Cayman and made fun of you waiting" (awful as that truth is) and "Kimmy and I have lunch dates all the time, oh and she has a key to my apartment." Not sure if Devlin plays this kind of blackmail game or if things go to shit for another reason. Will be interesting to see.

Andrew Mellein

I did! But I believe KT said it was not official! Since it was not connected to the main story. KT, I think was experimenting with what happened to the main characters. I prefer ending of original book. I feel that ending was a masterpiece and don’t want to know what happened five or ten years to that family. No more sadness and trauma to that family (don’t want Tyler ever to come back; dead of steroid overdose🤣🤣)

L_S87

Andrew, you should read the novella KT has on her website that's a follow up to Learning Lessons. Might change your opinion on Jess and how she "truly" feels.

Andrew Mellein

Yes!!! Kimmy is my number one vile hotwife character KT has created. Due to her constant gaslighting lies and cheating on Josh since chapter 1 book 1. The other 3 vile hotwives would be 2. Kate from Cayman Proxy would be close number two she as she leaver her husband without telling him and begins torrid affair with Omar even after husband blackmails Omar into affair with her. Also lies to her husband about threesome (wants foursome with Omar). I still don't know who's worse but Kimmy lies constantly so she wins. Also Keely stoles the series away from Kate as I like her character better. Next would be 3. Jess from Learning Lessons, she would be number one but the others topped her. Also she sort of redeems herself at the end when she realizes her husband is the man who truly loves even when cares a loser jock bums baby. I hated she was ready to divorce her husband for a loser and destroy her family. However she started out all in with her husband with jock Tyler so she wasn't completely vile. And the last vile character would be 4. Ashley from the short novella Taken When He Watches on their Honeymoon. Ashley is only low on this list because she is young and really naive(Evil Charlie?). I never get that she loves her husband as she does not take his concerns into account when she has sex (gangbang) for money from a bunch of black musicians and ball players. Puts down her husbands little penis during sex with the men. Never apologies to her husband. Has kid not her husbands from encounter. If I was him I would run for the hills! She dose not love him. So that's my list, I still like the sexy stories of these characters. I just don't like these characters themselves. These opinions are my own!

Mike Monroe

Kimmy deserves a fall . She has gotten away with too much!! The pregnancy and now this thing with Hyun... Kimmy is the most vile character KT has created by far. KT has delivered on all she said this book would be and more. I can't stand her..but that is KT writing at its best all the emotions, angst and disgust. Kimmy Waters/Kimmy Chang is the absolute worst!

Andrew Mellein

I could see Devlin getting eventually tired of Kimmy and exposing everything to Josh through recording. Showing hes in control!

Andrew Mellein

Total crazy “Gone Girl” relationship🤣🤣

Kat

I feel so badly for Hyun. We don’t know much about her, but I’m guessing she is lonely, and not comfortable with coming out publicly, which adds to her loneliness. She can’t resist what Kimmy’s offering, and Kimmy knows that and is cruelly leading her on. Kimmy said to herself that she doesn’t have any real attraction to Hyun, or at least the kind that Hyun wants. “But she couldn’t defend herself, couldn’t blurt out some proclamation of honest attraction to Hyun. It wasn’t there, and the absence in face of Hyun’s suspicion made her feel hollow.” Sure she can lay there staring at the ceiling, enjoying the sensations of what Hyun is doing, but I don’t see Kimmy ever being in a long term relationship with Hyun or with a woman. She says this is her insurance policy in case Josh tries to cast her out. What I get from that isn’t that Kimmy wants someone else to partner with, but to use it as another way to control Josh via total humiliation, this time with his family. She told Hyun a lot of lies and embellishments about Josh and her marriage. She could threaten to tell Hyun more, like exposing Josh’s kink with her panties. What about how Josh was obsessed with touching the thigh that Devlin rubbed himself on? That would be something that would destroy Josh if it was made public. Who knows? Hyun is setting herself up here for a world of hurt, because we know Kimmy will never love her. Kimmy is so evil. She’s not only going to destroy Josh, but she’s going to destroy Hyun, as well. Where’s Devlin? Devlin is vile, but it would be awesome to see him somehow deliver the karma to Kimmy. She has to pay for her crimes sometime.

L_S87

This makes sense, if only because Kimmy has already contemplated several times using Hyun to do just that. Hyun wouldn't go for it, I'm sure, but it shows that Kimmy has those types of thoughts in her head, if she could find a willing victim. I don't know if Josh would willingly do this on his own if someone just came onto him. If Kimmy was there to guide it, or made it known she's okay with it, though? Only Kimmy knows the twisted inner workings of her mind, but I could easily see her making this happen to hold over his head to ensure he stays with her. Guilt trip him right into doing whatever she wants because now he's just as bad as she is.

Andrew Mellein

If I was Kimmy I would set Josh up with another woman as a sexual fling without him knowing. To take the guilt of what she did with Devlin and Hyun away. So she can turn her cheating back on him. I just don’t know if Josh would want that. But if Kimmys in a desperate enough situation it’s she would probably do.

L_S87

Yeah, that's the Kimmy conundrum. She does actually love him, which is why I figured her anger was due to guilt. She wouldn't be angry about him jerking off in the car. She likes that part of him. She said Josh is dark, and she LOVES that. It gives her license to be the same, it makes him her perfect foil because what she craves pairs well with what he does. In moderation. Something neither are good at practicing. Hence why we have Kimmy feeling guilty over her plans for the night. Horrible, despicable plans that Josh being there makes her doubt, yet her she is, going through with it anyway. Does she lay there and then stop Hyun, knowing it's wrong, or does she go through with it because it will be leverage to keep Josh until he's wrapped up too tight in her machinations to leave? Kimmy's past says she'll go through with it, I guess we'll find out next chapter. I feel so sorry for Hyun. She's smart enough to see what's happening and pull back, but not strong enough when Kimmy reengages and puts the moves on her to say no. And it's so easy to get. This is 50% of her dream, so she's grabbing what she can. And Kimmy gets basked in adoration with some physical affection that she probably feels like won't have any strings attached because she already told Hyun what this is, and isn't. Even though I know she hasn't thought about it, I feel like this is her golden parachute. Where if Josh does make it ugly by not caving to her twisted version of "fixing things", she at least has someone who still loves her to fall back on.

Andrew Mellein

I hope something finally breaks for Kimmy. It’s my favorite part in any adultry drama. When the shit hits the fan!

Andrew Mellein

KT writes hot sexy scenes that leave you feeling filthy inside well !! 🤣🤣

Kat

You were right! You said in the last chapter that you thought Kimmy felt guilty. I was really starting to believe that there wasn’t any shame or emotion left in her. I was glad to proven wrong. I still want to see her burn, though. She needs some serious comeuppance.

Kat

There was a moment there where I thought Hyun was going to bolt, and once again Kimmy talks herself out of it. I still don’t get how she thinks seducing her ex-sister/cousin in law is going to make Josh “whole and happy” and make them “repaired”. Kimmy is banking everything on Hyun being able to treat this evening as just something physical. Hyun seems very sensitive, and really into Kimmy. I know why Kimmy thinks this is a crucial part of her plan, but I don’t know how she’s going to juggle all these different schemes without getting burned, ex. screwing Devlin, being pregnant, tormenting and lying to Josh, and now screwing Hyun . Something has to break for her. Please let something break for her!

Andrew Mellein

I think Devlin lied, seduced and fucked his evil ways into Kimmy! Now that she had her cushy money making job, boy toy (Devlin), and perfect husband she eventually lied to herself she could have it all. She became the Devil Mrs. Waters! This chapter shows she has some form of a conscience (with the dildo and feeling guilt with Josh) however limited. If I was Josh after the encounter with Kimmy in the car I would say FU to her bullshit sexual mind games and to tell Kimmy to get out of are apartment and go make her crazy bed with Devlin or jump off a pier. But Josh is weak and whipped by Kimmy so fat chance that happens.🤣

L_S87

Its rather sad that Kimmy can be so forthright and truthful with Hyun yet struggles to show even a smidgen of the same to Josh when it really matters. Though it makes sense. Having Hyun reject her actions would sting, leave her hurt, but ultimately able to work through it with someone who would still probably be a close friend when its all said and done. Josh's rejection could and would have much heftier consequences, leaving her absolutely devastated. Her reaction to "fucking Josh" shows this. It's interesting that Josh showing up had such an impact on her emotions and plans for the night. Nipped that dildo action right in the bud, made her feel awful, as it should have. No matter how despicable she is, this shows that she does love him, even if she has an awful way of showing it. And yet... as I said about the last chapter, the ends justify the means, and as she discusses things with Hyun, you can practically feel the gears turning in her head as she slowly fades back to evil Kimmy, finding justifications for pursuing Hyun, drawing her in with just the right words, just the right mixture of truth and lies to salvage her plans for the evening. That last bit was very hot, KT, and yet leaves me feeling filthy inside for reading it. Kimmy finds herself enjoying it in a way she never thought she would, and she doesn't deserve that. Not after what she did to Josh outside. Not after everything she's done to Josh. The Salem witches didn't deserve to be burned at the stake, but this one here, on this night, she sure as hell does.


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