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Chapter 106: Farron, the Guild Master of the Hunters Guild Branch. [Release Version]

🕑 Added 2020-10-05 01:04:46 +0000 UTC

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Diego Rossi

Bard, minstrel, etc. are professions, not necessarily classes. A class that use magic through song and music can be called Bard, but it is not necessarily for the professional singers and musicians to have that class. Lady Ellaine has a decent musical skill and she is a Mage.

Diego Rossi

Adding Berserker to someone that suffer from Battle Frenzy doesn't seem a good idea. Gong Sunfang Dragon had the added advantage of reducing it, taking a class that probably increase it is a bad idea.

Milandaanza

Yes jobs! I still don’t think mage is best for Hestia considering the way she ends up brawling and all the mage skills she already has. Come on Berserker Hestia and Assassin Saori!

No, no, when Hestia explained to them what an Idol was, they thought it was a ritual dancer. Don’t forget, the lizardmen come from a different part of the continent and an Idol sing and dances spectacularly.

Imp

Hm.... I didn't comment on this before, but there's bards? Curious. The lizardmen left me with the impression there was no such class; they only knew about ritual dancers. Or maybe Hestia (or the lizardmen) being unreliable narrator. Hm. Ooohhh! Renaming thing got cleared up. Cool - that had bothered me a bit. "Blessed by the Goddess of Light" - Hestia apparently didn't use System Neutrality to hide her blessing. That said, curious that he focused on the Light and Dragon blessings, and ignored the Fire one. Possibly because of the letter from Helvas, but if he's going to worry about bringing up the monster parts, why not the fire blessing? "guild could use two willing hunters," Not including Tasianna? More information about Garm Mother! Nice. Kind of hoping that Saori gets an arc dealing with their literal ghosts. "Really behind it" - heee, could that be a hint towards a certain noble who was behind Tasi's kidnapping? Okay, rampant fan speculation aside...

Jonathan Seah

I meant the summoned class. Who are all hanging around in the human world and very familiar with bread. At least theoretically. It would be fun for them to accidentally spark a trade war due to an offhand comment about yeast. lol

Imp

How many transmigrators? We know of one before the recent summons. And she mainly dealt with dwarves, from the sounds of it.

Oh, right, Battle Frenzy. I wanted to mention it in a future chapter, because you guys know what, but i forgot that is pretty important especially with how the guild master was insinuating the Kargryxmor’s anger problems.

Jonathan Seah

Huh. That seems pretty fragile, especially with some transmigrators hanging around. All it takes is a 'wtf' moment from them or Hestia leaving a bit of yeast dough for next time when someone's watching to destroy an entire trade good.

Kevin Caffrey

I love the revisions. The new version flows way better, it’s like night and day. If I may offer one more suggestion, when Farron asks whether they are a threat, it seems like it would be in character for Hestia to mention Battle Frenzy and her needs on handling it (namely freedom to spar). They seem to be laying all their cards on the table, and while it’s totally understandable that they might forget to mention it, I think it could read better if they do.

Termac

Hmm. Perhaps the guy speaking out is a somewhat spoiled, overly proud son (but not heir) of a laynoble? Regarding the question of how the guy and his group overheard, I suggest making it a bit more obvious by making it clear that they were talking within earshot of some of the guild members. For instance > “Rank D? Why rank D all of a sudden? We haven’t even done anything yet” I asked. could be > “Rank D? Why rank D all of a sudden? We haven’t even done anything yet” I asked, as we passed by couple groups of adventurers seated at the tables. The guy has a sword and his armor is described as "decently used." Maybe part of his complaint is that he thinks Hestia, Saori and Tasianna really don't have the strength to be D-rank adventurers, and are being granted that rank because of nepotism or bribery or something like that. Keep in mind that Hestia looks 15 (barely adult by Peolyncian standards) and is wearing a white cape, suggesting she's spent far more time in the Church than fighting monsters or even training, Saori looks 18, and Tasianna is wearing a *maid* outfit, and looks young as well (although she "is" an elf, so…) and all three of them are stylishly dressed, (I'm not sure the guy would know mana clothing by sight) unarmored, and appear unarmed, as well.

Bob

It would depend on the rules and culture of the guild you have designed. The complaint itself is not unrealistic, as complaining like that would at most incur a (relatively) mild reprimand. If you are wanting things to escalate further while still being realistic, the group would have to believe that they would normally get away with this behavior. An example of such is if they were nobles the guild would rather not offend. Perhaps one of those priests is with them; they seem to be an entitled lot that throw their weight around.

Of not otherwise noted, she always wears he default outfit from her artwork

Imp

Another question about this confrontation - is Hestia wearing her white cape? I didn't see any indication of what Hestia and company was wearing, but pretty much all her outfits are rather noble-looking, aren't they?

Termac

Yes, but you need to actually do that. You need to *know* to do that.

The biggest annoyance about it making the encounter outside is the fact we have Job change before us, and I’m pretty sure everybody wants to finally see how the Job system works in the story. Hestia wouldn’t leave the guild before she gets her first Job.

Termac

Yeah, it's not clear as is whether their problem is with Hestia's party or with Melia. And if it's with Melia, she should be able to threaten them expulsion from the guild they worked so hard to rank up in. Unless Melia's pretty meek, I guess, and afraid to use the authority she should rightfully be able to wield to keep order within the walls of the Guild.

Kevin Caffrey

Part of the issue with that scene was that by ending with it as a minicliff, you are signaling that the conflict will be important. However, even if you can make that interaction itself seem more natural, I can’t see any way the conflict would realistically escalate. The guild knows Hestia shouldn’t be offended, so the only realistic next action I can see is that the receptionist gives them a verbal beat down and then it’s over (which would make the prior cliff a letdown). If the goal is to make longer lasting trouble with an arrogant party, then I think having that occur just as they are leaving would work better. They could talk amongst themselves about how they are pleased to straight to D rank, right as they pass Tropey Arrogant Group. If that happens outside, the guild master/receptionist would not be able to intervene.

Jonathan Seah

I still find it strange how yeast can have a shortage when it grows. You can literally grow yeast in a bottle with a bit of leftover dough and some water.

Efgbog

Maybe specify where they are, like Hestia has just come out of a door behind the counters or near them and the clique party is currently waiting inline or already being served, so that they are close enough to hear. Also make it clear that they were not around when Hestia came the first time or that they have been out of town so they don't know who she is

Any tips on how to make it feel less artificial?

Comiak

Enhanced hearing skills exist and they have a wolfkin who probably has better hearing. As for not hearing that they demonstrated their skill, it's as you said, it's a noisy room, and they probably only heard a few words. I can imagine the kid probably just jumped the gun after hearing gossip that the wolfkin told him, He was probably told "Hey those guys are starting at rank D didn't know that could happen". But yeah, this definitely screamed artificially created conflict but it's a common trope.

Termac

Maybe the wolfkin rogue has really good hearing and caught the first mention of "D rank." Maybe the loud kid was watching Melia specifically, perhaps due to romantic interest. Maybe her voice had a way of cutting through a noisy room.

Imp

See, this is why you should have brought the butler. He was the anti-trope repellent

Kevin Caffrey

The ending felt weird. How would that group, which is across a noisy room, even have heard what was going on? And if they did hear, then wouldn’t they also have heard that Hestias party already demonstrated the proper skill? The interaction ended up feeling like an artificially created conflict.


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