MARCH MADNESS 2023 - Day 25
🕑 Added 2023-03-25 16:00:05 +0000 UTCCongratulations to SCREAM, which brutally murdered all four Beatles yesterday, including the two who were already dead.
Here is a look at the franchises still in the running as we reach the Elite Eight:

Up today - OCEAN’S vs. TURTLES.
“Finding Nemo” taught us that you can find Turtles in the Ocean, but these Turtles probably feel more comfortable in the city sewers. Also these Oceans aren’t wet per se, even though they’re slick.
ANYWAY.
With the Ocean's franchise, we'd get 5 films:
- Ocean's 11 (1960)
- Ocean's Eleven (2001)
- Ocean's Twelve (2004)
- Ocean's Thirteen (2007)
- Ocean's 8 (2018)
With TMNT, we’d do 6 films - the original live action ones, the Michael Bay-produced reboots, and the animated feature:
- TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES (1990)
- TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES II: THE SECRET OF THE OOZE (1991)
- TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES III (1993)
- TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES (2014)
- TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES: OUT OF THE SHADOWS (2016)
- TNMT (2007)
TBD on how / if we cover the upcoming animated feature, which looks great.
So - who will be the first franchise to advance to the Final Four?
Comments
Chris Lynch
Yeah but the 2007 cast was insane. Chris evans. Lawrence fishborne. Sarah Michelle gellar. Patrick Stewart. Zhang ziyi. Plus voice over legends! And also ninja rap!
Chris Lynch
But what if they went under water and frustrated everyone while they diffused bombs
Chris Lynch
You sound hurt. I hope you heal. And get an ice cream. Plenty to talk about. But if I would rather take Han eating snacks over rusty ryan any day
Chris Lynch
Obviously this isn’t about grown ups. That’s hardly a franchise. This is about turtle power
Chris Lynch
Same. The commenTary would be so good. The dossier alone. Chris evans as Cary jones!?
Chris Lynch
Are there 11 oceans tho?
Chris Lynch
Oceans 11 gave the turtles a jose canseco bat. And I didn’t pay money for this.
Tyler Duggan
This is totally not radical, dude
Chris Lynch
This Sucks
ALYSSA
I demand to be the guest if Ocean’s wins it all, I love those fuckin movies
Paul Munoz
Recount !
FreakaJebus
You people let TMNT beat The Exorcist for this? Shame.
Michael Loiacono
How dare you all. You deny me my turts.
Game That Tune
Do people realize they’re voting for the heist movies and not actual oceans
John Boy
Awful opinion
Alan Carroll
This is ridiculous!
Liam
First the SNL upset and now this. I just want a silly little patreon series.
Trevor Talley
Didn't realize most Blankies are 3 years old. Grow up kids, it's a podcast contest
Universal Single Payer
Naqoyqatsi all over again
Zachary Strebeck
Yikes at all of this
Jeremy Jurgens
Very disappointing results, Blankies. Y’all keep fucking up
Kevin Love Hewitt
They probably did that because they didn’t really wanna cover the scorpion king after being pummeled to death by mummy 2 and 3…
Jared V. Archuleta
This should not be close. TMNT is perfect Ben fodder
andy
I wanted to hear Ben talk about ooze
CT
Thank god the turtles finally got taken out. Other than some great 90s FX, ya’ll do realize that those movies are pure garbage, right? We would get a great 45 minute discussion about the turtle costumes during the 1st movie…and then what? What is there to talk about? WHO is there to talk about? Good riddance.
Beef Steak Tomato
Gnashing teeth, wringing hands, howling
Devin
But what if the Turtles went back in time?
Michael Cuculich
Love and voted for oceans. That said, if TMNT wins, that new movie will be out by the time they do/ finish the series probably... would they cover it?
Darren Williams
Lotta weird comments here. Ocean's rules, so much overreacting
Evelyn Chavanne
Jesus Christ what is going on here
Tyler Duggan
Are we really choosing smarmy Brad Pitt not-really-acting over TMNT and Jim Henson Creature Studio!?
Philip M Bernstein
Fwiw Ocean's has been my top pick in the bracket since the beginning, they're like my ultimate comfort movies, just good vibes. Can't speak for anyone else but I'd be voting for them even if Turtles hadn't taken out Pazuzu (Exorcist was my #2 tho)
Mike Dickson
I mean the comment was a joke to begin with, I do not expect them to do anything of the sort. But the Scorpion King also had something like 1000 more votes and ~100 people blowing off steam in the comments is exactly what shifted it then. Again, it’s not going to happen here.
Philip M Bernstein
Well, currently about 1300 more people have voted for Ocean's than Turtles so I would be very surprised if they called an audible based on ~100 people blowing off steam in the comments.
Kevin Love Hewitt
12 is trying very hard. Also, Tom of celebrity talk
Philip M Bernstein
It's so weird, I had no idea there was an anti-Ocean's contingent at all until today. They're charming!
Kevin Love Hewitt
Bye 👋
Kevin Love Hewitt
Some of us are tired of watching bad movies!
Kevin Love Hewitt
11>12>13
Mike Dickson
It wasn’t March Madness so it is a little different. But it was deciding whether to cover Body Bags or Scorpion King as the next Patreon episode. The votes went for Scorpion King but because most of the comments were loudly supportive of Body Bags instead they talked about it for most of the episode (and said the reason was because of the loudness of the comments)
Alex Papaioannou
OCEAN'S HATE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. WHAT IS GOING ON HERE
Philip M Bernstein
They advanced the loser because more people were talking about them in the comments before? When?
Jon Williams
These numbers are a tragedy. TMNT has so much good fodder to discuss over decades of pop culture
Jacob Tasoulas
Thats it... cancelling Patreon
Spencer Asmann
COWABUMMER
Aaron Farrell
I’m really pulling for scream myself and didn’t really expect turtles to get this far. I’m just even more in shock that oceans is getting so many votes. I always thought of them as fun but forgettable.
Stephen Michalowicz
Shell shocked!
Ben Bequette
For those confused: the Oceans movies are good and have all the pretty boys in them Also they allow for discussion of Sodie and historicizing the movie star Also 12 is really weird and 13 has Al Pacino
Stephen Blakley
Cab we please not spend months talking about Brad Pitt? I just don't have the energy for his recent doh shit behavior
Mike Dickson
Who is out here voting for Ocean’s? Hopefully the gang follows past precedence and advances the group everyone in the comments is talking about rather than the actual vote winner since they’ve done it before.
Sam Greer
I think turtle supremacy is just highly overstated and has less appeal for more ambivalent votes. It would be pretty surprising if it could pull off a win against a heavy hitter like Scream.
Jack o Diamonds
In a perfect world we’d be just in time for oceans 14, where the two crews join forces.
Sam Greer
In this case, agree to disagree, but I’m glad you got something out of these movies that I didn’t. Best of luck in your future turtle related endeavors.
Justin Markey-Thomas
Toughest choice yet for the Patreon bracket!
Erin
Choose turtle power you cowards
Aaron Farrell
Is oceans that popular? Or is this a if I can’t be happy no one can?
Matthew Duane
I have a feeling Ocean is going to win it all and then people are going to complain that the commentaries feel like a slog because the movies are all basically the same in terms of plot and performance but with diminishing effort.
Andrew Carden
How does OCEAN'S keep cleaning up?! Snooze!
Chris Lynch
Too much bossa nova last night. Just voted! 🤙
Patrick Orr
hoping for Ocean’s but also wanting main feed Soderbergh… which will probably never happen… so i’m hoping Ocean’s takes it all
Chris Lynch
No I want turtles vs ghostface!
ipsydipsy
And when there’s an obvious interest in something it can influence the subsequent Patreon schedule. If one of the shorter series wins they might still cover it in time for the new movie!
Robert Young
I was upset about the way this was going, but knowing it’s partially motivated by spite weirdly makes me feel better about it.
Matthew Chmiel
Hey Turtles fans, it’s time to get fucked for causing us to miss out on Schrader stories.
Josh Rioux
This is an outrage
Selmon Rafey
Oceans v Scream final round: whoever loses, we win
Mykle Curton
The first turtles movie is an easy top 10 comic book movie. Dark, emotional, and a study of maturing into adults as brothers. The farm house sequence alone is better than anything in Oceans. I am all for Soderbergh miniseries but the Oceans movies are the least Soderbergh of Soderbergh. If they did an actual miniseries I would probably skip all the Ocean’s movies except the first one. The Turtles movies open up discussions about adapting a work, fan bases, parents and censorship, and how different creative teams see the same characters. It is just a much more interesting commentary option.
John
Heartbreaking Oceans keeps beating these
Sam Greer
The 2007 TMNT films and the Bay produced films are all equally, if not less boring and interesting than Oceans 12. The original films are wacky, but that doesn’t always translate to the best commentary, as they are bad movies with not a lot of context in terms of greater filmmaking culture. If I’m voting for a commentary that is pretty much just a meme, I’m going Jelly every day. What are they going to talk about? Soderbergh, all day! A miniseries isn’t coming anytime soon and this is the most realistic way for discussion on the one of the weirdest mainstream filmmakers working today. The idea of Soderbergh, a classic blank check director, discussions should not be undervalued.
Bodie Davies
The Coaxium must be kept at a cool temperature
Michael Conway
Sounds drastic!
Jed
Our boys from the sewer will have their day in the grimy NY sun
Robert Young
I hope the Ocean following dries up.
Jonathon Pernisek
OCEAN'S = BORING, VOTE TURTLES
Ray Goldberg
Fingers crossed that TMNT is losing only bc the turtleheads partied too hard last night and haven’t woken up yet
Mykle Curton
The first movie, TMNT is a good if flawed movie, and Out Of The Shadows is a more romp then any of the oceans movies. Turtles has never had as boring or bad of a movie as Oceans 12. I feel like all the Turtles movies will make way more interesting commentaries then anything Oceans. What are they going to talk about… the performances are the exact same across all the movies and they all have the same basic plot.
Daniel Martin
Rewatched the Ocean's last year, was surprised how bored I was. Did not hold up to my memory, not even Eleven. And the 1960 version is notoriously boring by reputation. TMNT might be bad, but they're interesting bad.
Tyler Jennings
I feel like people have been campaigning for some type of long form Soderbergh coverage for ages, so the Oceans votes aren't surprising to me at all. My personal bracket had the final 2 as Oceans vs. Godzilla (gone too soon, pour one out).
Jay Kay
How is tmnt losing so hard? There’s so much more to talk about
Sam Greer
Danny Ocean fan club rise up, it’s turtle soup time.
Sam Greer
Which three are these? Having a tough time coming up with more than one good tmnt, they are all pretty terrible.
Sam Greer
A vote for Ocean’s 8 is a vote against the Turtles, easy decision.
MailManMatt
I don’t see how TMNT loses to oceans of all options
Mykle Curton
What is wrong with the all of you? There are like 1 1/2 good oceans movies vs 3 good tmnt movies. After this and losing POA last March, I might have to give up on the Patreon
Rudy A Martinez
Voting for TMNT but really only care about Scream
HappyCroc
This March Madness has been rough
Richard S
A little too raph
Timothy May
Pretty sure Griffin was cut out of Ocean's 8, so you're getting stories either way.
Spam Boi
Can’t believe we out here voting for Ocean’s 8. Come on y’all.
George Dunne
Why is Oceans so popular!? I feel insane! There's, like, zero nunchucks in them.
Charles
Gimme some movie star charisma and heists. Ocean’s it is!
Anthony Regina
TMNT really went the distance in this thing, I’ll give them that.
Tobey
Wanted those turtle boys to go all the way, but I’ll take Oceans.
Daniel A. Barron
Oceans? Seriously?!
Rad Rodge
We love it to be April 1805 don’t we folks
Kevin Merryman
Ocean’s movies are fun but they are not radical
Philip Munroe
I’ve been on the wrong side of the bracket almost ever vote since the sweet 16 started. Vote Turtles y’all I wanna hear some audition stories
Rad Rodge
Look I’d rather do Turtles than Scream
James Manning
Hopefully the Turtles fans are just sleeping in. Turtle Power! The animated TMNT is a banger!
Esteban Minero
WE NEED THE OOZE
Conor Dabler
Let’s dip our toes in the soderwater
James Manning
If I have to watch the Bay TMNT’s I would much prefer it with the dulcet tones of the two friends…and Ben. Bay talk could be interesting!
Max
All I ask is that whoever wins this matchup wins the whole thing.
Sam Gibson
T-U-R-T-L-E POWER THATS HOW THE SONG GOES AND YALL ARE MESSING IT UP
Wade Hollomon
TURTLE POWER
Joel Cunningham
I don’t understand you people any more
Olivia Haidar
Ring a ding ding
Rory Dunn
Do I want to talk 90s Turtles? Absolutely. Do I want to talk Bay Turtles? Absolutely not.
Jonathan Popalis
Who are these maniac ocean stans on here??
miles bolyard
Come on y’all, TURTLE POWER
Sawyer Huelat
VOTE 4 TURTLES
Kawaiidebu
There’s a chance they never do Soderbergh proper, sure, but to David’s point the original Ocean’s Eleven may be a chore of a commentary. I think all of the Turtles movies would give great talking points for the guys.
Chad Hotelling
This is the hardest decision of my life
Jamesdillenbeck
So many herbs voting for Oceans 😂
Peter Smith
Turtles are no match for the Night Fox
CT13
Neither, but Oceans doesn’t have Corey Feldman in it so I guess Turtles
Noah Mulder
Ocean's Twelve makes Ocean's Thirteen look like Ocean's Eleven
Tyler Allard
Caw Lee Flower 👏👏👏👏👏
Manish Agarwal
🍕☢️🥷🏾🐢
Josh Ries
C’mon guys, celebrities on sexy heists Is fun and all, but do they eat pizza and fight ninjas? I don’t think so
Patrick Smith
Turtles! The biggest grossing indie of its time. The terrible sequels! Toy Corner!
Jordan Gibson
Thought for sure the Heroes in a Half Shell would beat the antiheroes with emotion shells
Peter M
Cowabummer
Lionel Olivares
Turtles are more fun y'all!
RJ Burchatz
T-U-R-T-L-E POWER
Justin Davila
LU-CKY LO-GAN 👏👏👏👏👏👏
outb0undflight
I. LIKE. TURTLES.
Kyle Faber
Happy Ocean's Are Now Battlefields Day