MARCH MADNESS 2023 - Day 27
🕑 Added 2023-03-27 16:02:19 +0000 UTCRIP JELLY - a loss by 34 votes. You were too good for this world. Police Story moves on to face Ocean’s in the Final Four.
Up today - another literary matchup!
It’s ELMORE LEONARD vs. PHILIP K DICK.

For LEONARD, we’d cover his 4 famous 90s crime movies (yeah, we know “Be Cool” is from the 2000s, but it’s a direct sequel):
- Get Shorty (1995)
- Jackie Brown (1997)
- Out of Sight (1998)
- Be Cool (2005)
We will not be covering any of his myriad other adaptations…Leonard Westerns could be their own genre.
With PHILIP K. DICK, we’d narrow the field and cover 6 films:
- Blade Runner (1982)
- Paycheck (2003)
- A Scanner Darkly (2006)
- Next (2003)
- The Adjustment Bureau (2011)
- Blade Runner 2049 (2017)
We would not be covering MINORITY REPORT and TOTAL RECALL (1987) because we’ve already covered those on the main feed, and we’d be skipping the TOTAL RECALL remake and some other stinkers because, per David - “ugh, those might kill us”
So - who moves on to the Final Four?
Comments
Ancient alien
Y’all played yourself with this one wow!
Tyler Dietz
If it pairs well with movies like The One or The Rundown then hell yeah that's my jam
Samuel Clements
Jelly was robbed :(
Matt Vaughan
It’s a fun concept with Ben Affleck, I think it’s worth it
Creighton Budris
Save this energy for complaining about TMNT, not genuinely good movies
Jonathon Pernisek
(Get out of the Ocean and get on this Dick)
Alex Papaioannou
I can't believe the blow out is this large. Ocean's Hive is our last hope
Martin Schneider
We're about the same age. Years before I saw it a fellow daycamper described BR to us beat by beat. It took like a half-hour. We were transfixed. They didn't have movies like that one back then (except for that one).
Jonathon Pernisek
Absolutely demented response, congrats.
Bailey scieszka
Did David’s friend ever get out of those metal handcuffs when he dressed up as a policeman?
CT
In the future, mindless Jelly movies will be used to placate replicants. A vote against Jelly was a step forward for mankind, while a vote against was…a step sideways? At least Jelly is gone.
Rory Dunn
It's fun early 2000s trash, if that's your jam
Rory Dunn
What a weirdly angry response. The Dick series has just as much to get into my friend
bloodychill
These votes are starting to get difficult. Big “why not both” feelings.
Clammy_Damp
PKD. Ps: who really cares, you weirdos
Clammy_Damp
We’ve got a thick Dick list
Ryan Wayward
Fucking goddamn 80s babies. I have no beef with Blade Runner as a movie, it’s great and all, but of COURSE the one with the 80s video store stalwart is running the table. Gen Xers are as insufferable with their movies as boomers are with classic rock. So many great movies with tons of tangent potential left behind here because everyone wants to hear more Blade Runner. At least Scanner Darkly will be fun.
Tyler Dietz
Love that Dick list. Haven't seen Paycheck though. Would it be worth seeing if the show doesn't cover it?
Gabriel Horvath
Also fuck the qu’asti trilogy those movies blow
Gabriel Horvath
Let’s get that dick!!!!!!!!
Vegan Police
Dick is stacked!
William White
It breaks my heart to lose Elmore Leonard but Blade Runner was a total revelation to me. I saw it in the theater when it the first came out in 1982. I was 14 and immediately the worlds vision of the future was changed forever. I watched its echoes ripple for the last 40 years. The only filmography that was higher on my list was Kubrick.
Omeed
I’m surprised this isn’t closer
William Evans
Jelly is inevitable like Qatsi Trilogy. Same energy. I won’t be explaining further. Rather have Leonard than Dick. A Ridley mini is essential. A Tarantino one is non essential.
Rad Rodge
I mean I know the Goose is the BC touchstone for post-child-star voice relaunches, that's a different matter hahah
Rad Rodge
Accepting that we're moving into a post-Leonard bracket here, I would really love some sustained Gosling talk that the Blade Runners would facilitate. Can't remember hearing where the guys stand on much of his work (I feel like they're maybe softly anti?) but I do love the guy, loved the Screen Drafts episode with Roxana Hadadi and Jordan Crucchiola
Rohmer Simpson
I think most filmmakers would agree that Dick is pretty hard. To adapt
Evan Silveria
I wrote in Jelly today
Thomas Pickford
Screamers is on the PKD Stinkers list? Probably fair.
Bob Lemmon
I would rather have "normal" episodes for Leonard than Commentaries. Also: the Big Bounce is fun! Bebe Neuwirth is adorably drunk in it
Damimoon Sunbeam
Three of those for EL adaptations are stone cold classics, but the Dick looks like such fun. I want dick! Give me more dick (etc, etc)
Joe Miller
I think the better historical comparison is to Millard Fillmore voters in the 1848 election. It is basically one for one.
Tyler Jennings
Be Cool is a pretty insane movie that would be an incredible commentary, but I gotta go PKD because I love sci-fi and Ben Affleck's character in Paycheck literally has my name (my middle name is Michael).
Rohmer Simpson
Villeneuve 4 Prison imo
Mark McBride
I just finished reading Killshot, but my heart belongs to Dick.
Mark McBride
The one All-Timer is 2049, obviously.
Rohmer Simpson
Love Elmore Leonard but PKD is maybe my favorite author of all time; having said that, the pain:pleasure ratio in the PKD film series is worse. One all-time masterpiece, one pretty great Linklater, and then huboieeee. Only one stinkeroo in the Leonard set, one high masterpiece (JB) and 2 fun ones.
David Robson
Long time PKD fan, but this was a hard choice.
Steve Nutt
Since the Jelly steal all my votes are about inflicting pain
Kevin Love Hewitt
disconnected? half the people agree with you. if not more because people who want funny podcasts may have also voted for police story, an action comedy series
Kevin Love Hewitt
that's Wil Brimley
Sean Sakimae
Yeah, I was hoping their Sonnenfeld coverage would eventually lead there. Honestly, this one is a win-win for me.
Rad Rodge
Can’t forget about Michael Keaton in black leather when the South Florida dew point is about 137
Chris Chavez
Easy choice; need me some more Dick.
Chuck Nipper
I see we got a bunch of dicks voting today
Chris Madonna
We need to hear David talk Jackie Brown and we are never getting a QT series
Douglas Hahner
Out of Sight is one of the sexiest movies I’ve seen. David talks about liking two hotties kissing, and when OoS came out no one was hotter than Clooney and J-Lo.
Nathan
Read Dick’s books if you haven’t
Jake Bayer
Do I want Jackie Brown? Of course. But the boys doing Next would be even better. Dickhead it is!
JB
And so begins my life feud with Jackie Chan
Jeremiah Drueke
I can’t believe Leonard isn’t running away with this.
fartinscorcese
Give me some Dick... begging for some Dick
Nick Simpson
This is what happens when you mess with the Lament Configuration.
Erich Van Dussen
This is a legitimately tough pick.
Kevin Love Hewitt
during the men in black series, they seemed pretty into the idea of covering get shorty and be cool
Kevin Love Hewitt
no
Liam Palmer
Am I wrong or is Jelly also in “The Firm?”
Anthony D’Elia
Das fucked up Jelly deserves a recount.
Rad Rodge
The immortal words of Daniel Plainview
Sean Sakimae
I need a Get Shorty ep so badly that I voted for Leonard, even though the PKD series would be covering some of the best sci-fi movies.
Will Rahlmann
Leonard would be sooo much better!!! If one of the Dickheads out there would like to acknowledge that they’ve seen Jackie Brown, Out of Sight and Get Shorty and then explain how PKD could be a more entertaining series than those three, please feel free…
jack read
since PDK is in the lead, i will say - i think it would be really fun to revisit the two Dicks covered back in 2017 (maybe in favor of BR2049, which is technically not Dick). it's been a while, and these would be guestless - they're also both great commentary fodder. if BR is gonna get double dipped one day with David's long-desired Ridley series, i think it'd be fine for these to be revisited too.
Manish Agarwal
I'm a Dick man, etc.
Selmon Rafey
To be honest, I feel like voting for either of these won't matter because I hope that no matter who wins it loses in the next round. If I had to choose though...PDK would cover more directors that I would love to see covered separately in huge mainfeed series (covering either Blade Runner movies for either Sir Ridley or Denis would be classic blank check material, and a Linklater conversation on rotoscoping with his other works in the mix would be very cool) so I'm going with Elmore bc I don't mind potentially doing another Sonnenfeld at this point (which I feel like means he won't ever be covered on the mainfeed) and covering only one Tarantino or Soderbergh each here
Simon Keenan
I guess we weren't ready for this Jelly.
Matthew Levell
Jelly losing makes me feel very disconnected from the community. March Madness is not about what are better movies but what will make better podcasts, and to me a better podcast means a funnier podcast.
Rad Rodge
I mean I would be okay with that, though, I think the crew could do something very fun with the film industry side of these movies
Zef Wagner
Oh wow, close call between Police Story and Jelly! Glad the bit is finally retired. For this matchup, I gotta go with Philip K Dick, those movies are just so fun and interesting.
Will Redmond
Mailing a write-in vote for Jelly to BC headquarters in all future matchups
HappyCroc
There are directors on both sides who could be covered on main feed. Police Story will never be covered on main. I'm calling the cops.
David McCallum
So glad jelly is gone. Too many good series have been kicked out. A jelly win would destroy the fabric of democracy
Abigail Noy
cannot believe this happened to Jelly
Tom
fill me up with that Dick
Game That Tune
Do Jelly anyway
An_Robot
If Elmore Leonard included every season of Justified, then I'd be down.
Holden Martinson
Also, other than A Scanner Darkly, none of them are particularly good adaptations of PKD's work. If it's just an excuse to talk about a specific phenomenon of a guy whose writing is often adapted, then sure, even if those movies don't really have a lot to do with PKD.
Daniel A. Barron
Bit, begone!!!
Mauricio Salas
Jelly noooo! also Next if from 2007, I'm still on the fence on this match up
Martin Schneider
I voted for Jelly but it's probably just as well.
Simon Keenan
Jelly was too beautiful for this world. Everytime the wind blows through the trees I'll hear "DAS FUCKED UP".
Jonah Kaufman
Kind of shocked Dick is winning by this much. Leonard would make a much better choice for this
Alex Katz
Half of the Dick movies are COMPLETE turds. Not even fun enough to mock. Please vote Elmore Leonard. This is coming from a lifelong PKD fan.
Thaine Smith
Wtf did I just type
Eric Nagurney
From here on out, I'm voting for the movies that Jelly would most likely show up in, so gonna have to go Leonard.
longhornsteve
This is a pkd house but Elmore Leonard wrote some of the greatest crime dramas ever written
Adam
Anyone who votes for Philip K. Dick is basically voting for Donald J. Trump in 2016
John Paxton
First honest win-win on this side of the bracket? I'm going Leonard because directors and the PKDs I care about are definitely going to get covered in the next couple of years anyway.
Thaine Smith
I love Leonard but the hard swings of Dick will make for great podcast. I just wish this list included Screamers from 1995.
Paul Chandler
If I had a dollar for every....
Sam A. Sipe
I can't believe Jelly went down, cowards
Missi Information
When you lose a loved one, they tend to be on your mind
David Rosenblatt
Time. To podcast.
Tom Matuszewski
Isn’t this Leonard vs Dick? Why’s everyone talking about Jelly?
Gretchen Lindensmith
i'd be cool with either of these.
Judson Greene
das fuckin weird
Noah Mulder
If Dick wins, I hope covering BR2049 doesn’t nullify a Villeneuve mini some day.
Curtis Brewster
I genuinely grumbled "that's fucked up" to myself unconsciously.
Begemott
I need that Dick!
Tyler McClellan
police story is going to suffer the worst, most spiteful loss i can manifest
Matthew Chmiel
I think a lot of the arguments are everyone would rather see actual miniseries for the Leonard line-up versus a line-up of Dicks. Always bet on Dick.
Joy Sophonisba Hawkins
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion... I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain... Time to die. … Cut to: Jelly (horrifying): Das fucken weird
Donald W Pratt
Come on Elmore, you’re my last dog in this fight!
Regis L
Dick! Dick! Dick! Dick! Dick!
Jeremy Culver
Honestly, the Leonard movies (non-Be Cool division) are too consistently good for me. We need bollocks like Next
Hunter Wright
I’m abstaining from voting until Jelly sees justice
Missi Information
While Jelly lost the vote, the Jelly Hive still wins because they are guaranteed to series in order to retire the bit, so the anti-Jelly Jabronis don't lose their godamned minds again next year. Thank you unhinged internet folks on both sides for showing us the passion for Jelly!! Jelly Hive, we're fucked up and we're PROUD OF IT!!!
Tobey
Way to go, Dick! Going to be a heck of a Final Four! I’ll be happy with anything but Scream, but I’ve never seen a Scream, so I guess it would be kind of funny to watch them all for the first time with commentary…
Matthew Chmiel
You always gotta vote for Dick.
Rory Dunn
Give me that Dick!
Matthew Farthing
I’m confused. Where is the option to vote for Jelly?
ChewyWalrus
RIP, Jelly... or, as the man himself might say, "das fucked up!"
TV's Kevin Lanigan
It’s Battle of the Books!
Jonathon Pernisek
Bye Jelly, good riddance!
Donald W Pratt
NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Dats FUCKED UP!
Ryan Wayward
This is the crusher but I gotta go Leonard. Those movies are all so good.
Chad Hotelling
Thank you all for voting against Jelly.
Joe Skonce
JELLY NOOOOOOO
zack albun
Time to be Dicks.
Stephen Sambrook
The prophets were right - we were not ready for that Jelly.
Ian Smart
How is ELMORE LEONARD losing?! Out of Sight AND Jackie Brown! It’s an unbeatable combo!
Jake
Ah man. Das fuckin weird 😞
IMDB
🥺 Jelly….
Raphael Esguerra
Jackie Brown gonna go down on QT’s birthday. Pain.
john-kawika shelton
Jelly 😭
Jacob Dominguez
RIP Jelly 😭
Evan
PKD is such an interesting series
ian
Rest in peace, Jelly. You were too good for us
Joel Cunningham
I'm so glad Jelly lost, now I'm ready to let PKD and Scream fight it out
Ricky Bardy
Not sure why they are covering the MTV dating show Next for PKD but I’m ok with it
Rad Rodge
Siblings all, we have stood together against the onslaught of Jelly and we still stand. We are together always in triumph. My gratitude will continue even once the show does Jelly anyway out of protest
Daniel McLane
Glad Jelly is sleeping with the fishes. Let's go Leonard, just watched Out of Sight again last night and I'm still horny!
Steven Thomas
Marie, thanks for controlling the chaos. Go Leonard!
Philip M Bernstein
Damn, this one I really can't pick.