2024 March Madness Update 2
🕑 Added 2024-03-29 14:02:56 +0000 UTCAs we approach the Final Four, the BC gang recaps matchups and discusses the predictability of this year’s bracket. David also tries to not offend most other people in the room.
Topics include: John Williams’ work for The News, A Muppets Manifesto, and a distinct promise of what will NOT be happening if Sir Lord ALW wins the Patreon bracket.
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MDub
I would be ok with a Grif and Marie Muppets miniseries. Maybe give David some time to get a gaming pod going
Clare Lowe
Absolutely 💯
Alison B.
Making a plug for next year’s director’s bracket … Penelope Spheeris, Amy Heckerling, Betty Thomas who are the holy trinity of OG $100m+ female directors way before Greta Gerwig and please 🙏🏼 Penny Marshall 🫶🏼
Alison R.B.
Ride or die for the great muppet caper 🫶🏼
Jon Demse
I think I can manage an extra $5 a month for that next patreon tier
clara
I have come around to being excited about a potential Lynch series, given that the BC format will hopefully have a substantially different approach to Lynch discussion than “film class students.”
Rad Rodge
Well. Indeed
Adam King
Listening to the episode late... you guys should play the Jaws board game if Tabletop wins.
John Mack
Depending on the guests…
C S
All Becker category! Whoever wins...we win!
Daniel Citron
BLANK BECK WITH GRIFFIN AND DAVID
Corby Weyhmiller
Party Hardy Bardi living up to that nickname!! The suggestion of fingering each others buttholes had me in tears….HAHA!
Isaiah Bornman
Per "boring March Madness results" Bring back the players! The seeding order was great but we need thumbs on the scales again. Get some friends of the pod to rally on Twitter and voice memos on the patreon updates grandstanding for a fave director. Bring back the players
Clare Lowe
David...David. I love your takes but this time I'm driven to write a comment. I realise I am a 'muppet person'. I have almost got queer icon Gonzo tattoo, multiple times...I watch Muppet treasure island at least 3 times a year and the beautiful innocence makes me teary eyed. But the fandom being one of the worst ...WHAT!? NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT.
Rad Rodge
Tired: Forget about Mike D, Black Rain is an Andy Garcia vehicle Wired: Forget about Andy Garcia, Black Rain is a Ken Takakura vehicle Inspired: Forget about Wriggly Scott, this is a Yusaku Matsuda episode
Justin A. Harwood
Agreed, we're down to a Final Four where none of those guys are the ones I would've wanted out of their quadrant, but I don't know how you avoid the simple fact of people being more likely to vote for a filmmaker they already know something about, rather than wanting something lesser and more niche. It's not like I won't listen to the Lynch episodes, he's a fascinating guy and I know BC will find interesting guests and compelling angles to talk about him. I just don't know how you avoid this outcome unless the gang crafts a bracket with basically no especially popular filmmakers. And perhaps they should!
Ray Goldberg
“We’ve just got young hot 45 year old Nicole Scherzinger” when Gloria Swanson played Norma Desmond she was 51 which isn’t actually that much older. Also when Patti Lupone was in the original run of the musical she was 44.
J
For tabletops, it’s too bad we can’t do tabletop adjacent movies like Only You (Ouija romcom w/Marisa Tomei and RDJ).
Will Rogers
I showed labyrinth to my 5 and 6 yr old and they LOVE it. Regular rotation. Great movie
Josh Harvey
Lousy smarch weather!!! Thank grodd we’ve got MM
CT
The gang is right, what a boring March Madness this proved to be. Yay, we get to talk about David Lynch, a year after we get to talk about Kubrick. Maybe in another year we get to talk about Scorsese. Maybe early Coppola? Let’s just go down the list of directors that basic film bros consider iconic.
Anthony Regina
Griffin is 100% right about The Muppets
Seth Krimsky
Please help block the ALW win. I can’t possibly replenish the fluids I would lose from continuous vomiting
Scott Carberry
Finally!! Party Hardy Bardi!!! I can’t believe it’s taken so long to get to that obvi nickname! Thank you, Fuck Master!
Alan Howell
Haven’t even heard the whole episode but I have to speak up in David’s defense. He didn’t say he dislikes the Muppets! He just doesn’t LOVE them. That’s not a crime!
Jordan Gibson
If you guys do tabletop games, your game to play should be Nightmare the V.H.S board game. You'll fucking love it
fartinscorcese
Oh also there’s going to be a Drag Ball-influenced production of Cats off broadway this fall
BansheeNeet
I was disappointed to see Oz Henson lose but I’m also living for David razzing Griffin and Muppets People.
Rad Rodge
I feel similarly but I think I may be reacting more to the idea of having to hear about David Lynch *from David Lynch fans*, and at least unlike David Sims vis-a-vis Muppets, I won’t really have to be bombarded during the miniseries with what the fans think
Flappy McGillicuddy-Jones III
Effective Altruism movement YA BLEW IT
Danielle
If you guys do Black Rain ever… please make sure you don’t overlook Yusaku Matsuda.
Alex Solliday
I think they were talking about the free tier? But I wasn't sure either.
Shawn Barney
Totally outside the norm of discussion, but has anyone ever figured out why the Special Features cover art is so low res in podcast players like Overcast? Play it in Patreon, I get to see it in gorgeous full res, but on my preferred played, a pixelated mess!
Emily Wolfe
I appreciate the amount of work that would be involved, but I would be SOOOOO STOKED for another TTRPG episode. we don’t talk enough about how incredible the keep RPG episode is
Manish Agarwal
Not loving the anti-muppet Big David Energy on this update! He’s worse than Chip Smith when he gets like this… 🤦🏾♂️
Robert Zorella
I’ve never been more furious with David calling Labyrinth BORING
Austin McDougle
also if David shits on the Muppets one more time Griffin should be allowed to shit on all the boring Master & Commander, For All Mankind shit that David loves (I like it too)
Chris Fyvie
Same.
Ballytotalfit
I’ll admit to being a little against the idea of 4-5 episodes on twin peaks. Just seems like a lot for one thing for a long time.
wox2d
I second this, they should play some sort of fun one shot rather than trying to teach everyone d&d
John Mack
I am just so dreading a Lynch series. I just never need to hear straight men discuss him ever again, but maybe that’s just coming from a “person who had film classes with grad students” perspective.
Rad Rodge
Not that I have before! Just, extra mega never going to do it now
Rad Rodge
The good thing about the Lynch series will be that the Reddit is optional and I will not need to look at it
Francisco Hernandez
If yall wanna do an rpg game for tabletop series, there are a lot of silly, fun single page ttrpgs that you can find that are fairly simple and fun!!!
Matthew Graham
So is the second Patreon tier a bit or something that haven’t announced yet?
Joel Barber
The Twin Peaks possibility turns me off. Not a bad show, but not one that I am interested in enough for that long.
Howard Green
Oh yeah, Frank Oz needs his own series. Little Shop, Death at a Funeral. Did he do Dirty Rotten Scoundrels? Totally overlooked as a director.
Jon Ryves
as someone who likes but doesn't love The Muppets, David getting more and more exasperated about them is sending me
Howard Green
PLEASE do a Muppet movie retrospective!!!
Tom
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Peter Smith
"And some people don't want this to be a Twin Peaks podcast for a month" thanks for the shout out!
Arqam Aamer
The things u can say when there's no major organization incharge sksksmjd Marie that was out of nowhere 😭😭
Don Knott Steiner
Man, you assholes better have respect, and vote Pulp in the next round!
Kevin Kuenn
I'm pretty sure both "Herc-u-LE-an" and "Her-CU-le-an" are acceptable.
Jessica
Do NOT go see Love Never Dies, holy shit. It's the worst show I've ever seen.
Holly Catlin-Meyer
I think they want attention. I muted that page long ago because it was so weird and nonsensical. Most of the people there don’t seem well-socialized, the “friends” aren’t our “friends”, and never will be. I guess they get what they want because they’re getting comments from the hosts.
John Mack
Glad they’re as bored with the final 4 as I am at least! Once Haynes lost, my interest plummeted (but I hope Spike wins)
Johannes Wiberg
Griffin actually being a bit annoyed about David not dropping the Muppet=vacation bit is such a great reversal of their usual dynamic. Despite this being a No Bits Podcast.
Dylan Weaver
Started laughing when Ben mentioned his Highlander plans, the screamed and laughed so hard I cried when Marie came in with the ALW pitch.
Amy Patrick
Please do Haynes. He has hopped genres and honestly not made a bad one. I stand with Marie.
Ryan Morse
David you’ll do Henson and you’ll like it 🫵
Joshua Ochoa
I’m a David Dog not a Griffin Guy. Honestly find Griff pretty grating in the earlier episodes. He got a lot better though. I’m more into Muppet Comms than main feed. Also I find Labyrinth and Dark Crystal boring. Would rather Oz on his own.
Mike F.
The Brothers Quay , Yan Svenkmayer..etc...
Dan W
Griffin’s Branaugh Poirot is as good as his Schwarzenegger is bad.
“chris”
Saddened to learn i mispronounced “Herculean” the 2 times I said it in my life
Dustin Nguyen
Sword4Ben! Highlander!
Mickey Sheridan
Lynch, Oz/Henson and Weir miniseries all being discussed in one ep? My heart can’t take it.
CT13
Enjoyed the dog roaming off leash on this one. I stand with you David, intense Muppet fandom baffles me. I've had people yell at me about how smart and funny they are. Saw the movies as a kid and they were fine, that's about it. However, if you love the muppets I like you and keep in mind I was hoping for an Ernest Vs. Pauly showdown in March Madness.
plank10
Such a bummer.
BestowalDonkey8
How did Jason take Manhattan from the felt clutches of the Muppets?
JP
I'm all in for Spike Lee and Tabletop games or Highlander
Austin McDougle
no ur right, they’re annoying af. ppl’s attitudes used to be more fun, I don’t think we would get Meyers or Demme in a modern Madness 😓
Austin McDougle
1. I joined the reddit for like a day and immediately turned around, the #twofriends are not wrong about those ppl! insane and annoying 2. the real virgin miniseries was Andrew Stanton
Savannah
Also (hopefully, not to prove David’s point that puppet people are annoying lol), but Ben would freaking LOVE puppetry if he really looked into it. Like not muppets, but like proper like experimental shit.
Blake R.
Oz/Henson loss wouldn't have been so bad if the Reddit comments weren't so condescending about it. then again this is my first participating MM so maybe it's just always this petty lol
David Daniels
Tabletop is my pick, let’s go baby!
Savannah
Oz/Henson losing was a freaking tragedy. If you don’t want to hear Griffin talk about muppets for 4 episodes why do you even listen to this show?!
Kevin Kuenn
This message was paid for by the Ben Hosley Highlander Super-PAC
Julian Hester
First comment!! Wow wow am I a special ti ti boy