BC March Madness - Day 26
🕑 Added 2025-03-26 18:00:10 +0000 UTCThe people are screaming for Dick. It is our duty to give Dick to them. Dick, Philip K. moves on to the Final Four!
Up today—not Muppet's Wizard of Oz, but Oz and Muppets.
Okay, wait...Quentin Tarantino is in this movie????? Piggy plays the good AND bad witch? We might need to add this one, folks. To Oz, obviously. Muppets already a stacked lineup.
Anyway...
With WORLD OF OZ, we'd cover five films:
The Wizard of Oz (1939)
The Wiz (1978)
Return to Oz (1985)
Wicked (2024)
Wicked: For Good (2025)
With Muppets, we'd cover eight theatrically-released films:
The Muppet Movie (1979)
The Great Muppet Caper (1981)
The Muppets Take Manhattan (1984)
Muppet Christmas Carol (1992)
Muppet Treasure Island (1996)
Muppets from Space (1999)
The Muppets (2011)
Muppets Most Wanted (2014)
Who moves on to face Philip K. Dick in the final four?
Comments
JC9000
well i got crucified, and I get it... but to be clear I listen to this pod despite the times griff drives me up the wall not BECAUSE of it. honestly the comms hes best on are the ones where god forbid hes gotta ask questions about stuff
Nick Strauss
I’m dying for the Muppets to win the whole thing! I sat next to Patrick Cotnoir at the screening of The Muppet Movie at The Egyptian a few weeks ago. I think they should bring him on to talk some Muppets.
Adam Martin
As much as I love Wizard of Oz and Wicked and want to hear Griffin talk about The Wiz the Muppets are just stacked great films
Max
Yes. For one, the best series are the ones where one of them has a personal relationship with the material. For two, the Muppets are great.
Anthony Regina
A terrible thing to remember
Anthony Regina
1,000,000% yes
Tomas Marinara
Kermit's Swamp Years is one of the few of Muppet things I haven't seen. Letters to Santa is a cute enough special. Paul Williams songs help it, especially in comparison to the Oz songs.
Donald W Pratt
I quite liked it, but I was a teenager more willing to put up with longer things at the time. It is, I think without question, about 30-60 minutes too long.
jahr
Somehow missed this show when it came out, but saw it listed on Prime yesterday
Winson Paine
I am also baffled at some of these comments, it is weird that people pay money to listen to someone they seem to dislike so much.
Harrison
JC9000, That is quite literally, what I'm paying to be here for, That "ignoramaus erf" was it? Brings me joy, you what else brings me joy? The mother fucking Muppets.
Lee Morgan
Why are you on this patreon if you feel this way about one of the hosts?
Ditmarser
I don’t care about Oz winning or losing. It’s their competition in this matchup that concerns me
Chris Radicone
Everyone seems to forget that the muppet movies are far more than just Muppets but also the actors that play off them...ahem in no particular order: 1. Jeffery Tambor 2. Steve Martin 3. Michael Caine 4. Tim - mother fuckin- Curry 5. Charles Grumpy Grodin!!! And that's the tip of the iceberg. Now I am pulling for the 90's Scum Bum comics for the sheer variety but c'mon Muppets are just good fun and yes I wanna hear Griffin geek out as much as I wanna hear Ben geek out over the wet chains of Spawn or David discuss Dredd.
Chris Radicone
Both beautiful songs but Rainbow Connection is the Lance of Longinus and pierces my soul.
Chris Radicone
🤜💥🤛
Chris Radicone
Its definitely the weirdest sequel ever.
Chris Radicone
But you could have Indie Comic scum bums! Tell me watching Spawn with all the wet chains doesn't get you the least bit excited. We're talking Ben's porch picks for a solid 3- ish months with incredible variety and the creme de la creme 2012's Dredd!
Chris Radicone
" Spank me and turn me towards the TV I wanna watch Return to Oz" What is... things you'll never hear.
Chris Radicone
I was gonna vote Oz but now I am gonna vote for Muppets... even harder. ::clicks muppet voting bubble:: That felt good. Don't ever besmirch Watto
Jason Perry
Very surprised the muppets are running away with this. Thought Oz had a shot to go all the way. We really want four months of muppet movies? 😱
Colin
Lots of masochist blankies, I see
JC9000
I'm pretty sure the forever-virgin spite vote is gonna push this one all the way
JC9000
James, is it just to spite everyone else? do you get off on hearing the whiniest ignoramus on erf talking over everyone to tell his life story in relation to puppets and how *integral* they are to his personality...blahblah... ?
Donald W Pratt
I’d vote Oz if they included Tin Man.
James Asmus
Sincerely, yes
killbot_factory
ah i thought I was voting for the HBO prison drama!
Beef Steak Tomato
Oz series is a great idea, they should really do it. Incredible spread of films. I now carry it to the buzzsaw and wave it a remorseless farewell.
Bodie Davies
Please no!
Patrick Moran
Do you guys seriously want to listen to Griffin talk about Muppets for 3 MONTHS! Everyone else will go insane.
Agustin Macias
Worse than Kermit’s Swamp Years and A Muppets Christmas: Letters to Santa?
Ditmarser
It’d be real cool if Muppets didn’t win the whole bracket
DG
Add Muppets wizard of oz to Oz series if they lose this!
Tomas Marinara
David will explode like Crazy Harry if they do Muppet Wizard of Oz to either series. Easily the worst Muppets project and I say this as a loyal Muppets guy.
Sean Sakimae
Come on now... This is nuts!
Conor Dabler
Can’t wait to sacrifice either at the alter of dick
LT
Muppets are my… most wanted.
Chris Radicone
Three words... Bobo the Bear
Chris Radicone
....but Oz heads be fuckin' ?
gayforbones
Muppets all the way to the bank baby
Douglas “Scoop” Reinhardt
That’s a lot of Herbie the Frog
Wyatt Gray
It's going to come down to MUPPET vs. 90s Indie Comics in the final round isn't it? I'm predicting a <10 vote margin.
Wyatt Gray
It's going to come down to MUPPET vs. 90s Indie Comics in the final round isn't it? I'm predicting a <10 vote margin.
Douglas Wykstra
Miss Piggy would make an excellent Galinda.
sheabobay
Neither of these are my faves, but VOTING IS FUN!! XOXOXO
Sj
Damn, that actually is a good question. Both songs hold up as bangers.
Isabelle Iverson
no such thing
Good
We had Adam Sandler and Highlander. Could of been a fun summer. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 another year another disappointment.
Janine
THIS is the hardest!!
Sam Blum
PLEASE add Muppet Oz to Oz. But maybe don’t tell David and have it be a surprise
Brett Tucker
Big agree
Eric
I just want everyone to have to watch Return to Oz
glenn clothes
Bad movies have produced some primo commentaries (the Dundees, the Clauses, Naqoyqatsi, etc)
Johannes Wiberg
I mean, I would be disappointed if we land on Muppets, but I would save screaming "what the fuck" for, say, Trump dismantling USA, instead of about people liking Kermit. Like, we need civility somewhere in the world.
J Kyle Wilsor
This was a terribly difficult choice.
Steve Runyon
I'll say the same thing I did for every Muppets vote so far. Henson/Oz for main feed! Vote for Oz (the series, not the director)!
Snoogens
Miss Piggy and the Wicked press tour hurt me.
Damimoon Sunbeam
I can't say I'm bothered about either of these but of the two I would have picked Oz but... I guess Muppets then. Oh well.
Johannes Wiberg
I won't yuck your yum, but that might just be too many Muppets movies in a row for me...
Good
Matt Quarterman
QT, the true sexual deviant muppet.
Jimi cuell
Bring back Happy Madison
Jamey Bouwmeester
Who hurt you, friend?
Masturov Desguys
UUUGGGHHHH
Spam Boi
The entire bracket feels like it’s only Griffin voting 😄
heather
I have The Wizard of Oz on my four faves but I'm ok with bring blown away by a bunch of muppets.
Blake Anderson
Hope they both lose
youngthugisthegreatestlivingrapper
Voting Oz (Wizard) because I want a Henson/Oz mini on main feed!
sko buffs
Me after clicking muppets, nervous about the results: "my faith in blankies is redeemed." I mean I like Oz as much as the next guy .. but muppets!
Nathan Cranor
I want Henson/Oz main series and World of Oz patreon
Charles
Damn you virgins!
Olivia Haidar
Don't really want either of these to be honest, but I want Muppets less
Anthony Strand
Bummed to see Oz losing. That would be such a fun series!
Visa-Valtteri Pimiä
remember, keep it henson. we NEED Griff to fully nerd out on Kermit and Fozzie, the two friends
bustghoster
HEAT WAVE!!! Areeeebaaaa!!! This is my island in the sun! Oi, oi! 🎶
Ashley Minor
I knew this is when Muppets would overtake oz but I still must fight for the losing side here
Ian Joshua Postman
Down with felt
Non è un problema per noi
Please can we let muppets win and bring joy to us in this trying time
Wade Hollomon
if i remember correctly, muppets wizard of oz was made during this brief period of time where jim henson productions was owned by this weird european media conglomerate and all the muppets are sexual deviants in it. gonzo keeps making jokes about his nipples. also quentin is there
Mr. M
Muppets all the way!
Tereglith
Voted for Oz bc I'd rather have Henson/Oz on main feed!
Cliff Williams
it’s just too much muppets y’all
Alex Firer
The Mike Flanagan/Brian Henson interview on the Commentary Podcast is fantastic. There's a lot of weird showbiz stuff to be mined there, including the Jim Henson company as a Succession like family business.
Emily Parker
I need another MM update video! We don’t get enough Chip Smith on the pod! Maybe keeping him on mic will stop him from his crimes off mic.
Andrew Jansson
How many kids does David have to have before you let the man REST! Let Griffins take the reins for a season.
elsie kate
okay, this is a really tough one. i'm going with oz, but i've seldom felt so conflicted
Abe Something
Remember the weariness of Burton?
Miles Lemaire
I wish I FELT differently about the Muppets. Wakka wakka!
Tom
For Rizzo
Riley M
I love muppets too much to listen to David and Ben be bored / annoyed for 3 months
Brian Blake
Voted for Muppets because fuck it, let the guys talk about kids stuff before they're 40.
Jordan Coleman
I've never really got Muppets. Its something I'm probably either too young for or missed that cycle. Going with oz
Josh Darby
Second to this!
Josh Darby
I would love both these series. But Muppets has to finally take this bracket!!
Anthony Pierre Coco
booo, Oz has so much variety in it
Brian Redford
C'mon. Vote for oz and get a Muppet movie for free? It's the better deal.
TheLibraryClark
Muppets makes more sense connected to a Henson/Oz series on main!
Caroline Kittredge Faustine
please do the Oz silents they are so strange!
Rory Dunn
Finally putting an end to this Oz menace
Rad Rodge
I’m really struggling with the electoral analysis of how many 90s indie comics voters are probably also Muppets voters, the prognostication may be trickier than I thought
Nick Biedma
Muppets all the way!!
Chris Kw.
Muppets will win March Madness. Then they’ll do World of Oz in early 2026 and (throw in Muppets’ Wizard of Oz)
Curt Weiler
This is a brutally tough choice.
Harrison
I agree Oz would be so much fun! But I don't know about "inevitable" you could make that case for every one of the 14 decade of dreams bracket directors. Just doing Lynch took half a year
Brendan Radigan
Muppets are somehow gonna continue to be added year to year until they get chosen... I already have made my peace with this fact
dorium
and may we never have to hear of Wicked ever again. until the John M. Chu series (teehee)
Rad Rodge
Jimminy christmas
Ryan Spearman
Only for the weak
Zack Stoudemayer
Don't think they're mutually exclusive, only 2 films overlap
Rad Rodge
Screaming for Dick: A Decade of Dreams [🎶pizzicato version]
Sean Collin Mako
Muppets is too many for a patron series
Anthony Regina
It’s now time for the Muppets to just crush all the competitors
Barry Wigham
I have never recovered from watching Return to Oz as a child. So "it's time to play the music...."
Mike Amato
If they end up doing Henson/Oz on the main feed (which they should), they can just do one episode about Caper & Manhattan and be done with it. It shouldn't disqualify Muppets from taking it all here. GO MUPPETS.
Del Lorenson
The burning question: which series has the better Rainbow song?
JTA
*Not listed: The Wiz musical tribute sequences on Oscars Stage
Manish Agarwal
🐸🐷🐻🥇
Oliver Brindle
It'd be fun to hear the reaction to the Tarantino cameo at least
Rachel
I am once again begging y'all to stop voting muppets so we get Henson/oz main feed!!!
Evan
Muppets are going to take March Madness and I'm super cool with that
Kevin Gesme
Wizard of Oz to keep Henson/Oz main feed hopes alive!
ChewyWalrus
The hardest one yet... 😭
Jason Feffer
I do not.
Harrison Cordle
Oz has a chance! Muppets can wait, Oz is right in the zeitgeist right now
Zak Goldberger
I think there is a world in previous march madnesses where i would've wanted both of these but right now, this is a real choice between my two least favorite options left on the bracket. Voting Muppets because I am already pretty Wicked out, and can only imagine I will be more so by the time For Good is coming out and we'd be covering those movies, apologies to all the other movies on that list that are good and would make good episodes.
Bonesaw Greene
600 votes in two minutes is wild
Jack Harris
You mean Frank of course?
Andrew Wyslotsky
I need Oz for my Nipsey Russell fix. Teeeeny! Teeeeeny!
Anthony Oleszkiewicz
Muppets are awesome but also inevitable. Oz would be a fun and wild swing with so much context to talk about
Kyle Harlan
Muppets! Muppets! Muppets!
Oliver Brindle
This reminds me there's a Muppets Wizard of Oz
Anthony Strand
You should not add Muppets Wizard of Oz to anything. It's *very* bad.
Adam Macias-Celestina
This is a tough one.
Jason Feffer
Oz! Oz! Oz!