MAG 178 - The Processing Line
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An examination of industrial meat processes.
Audio recorded by the Archivist, in situ.
Content warnings:
- Dehumanisation
- Helplessness / Existential dread
- Devaluation of human life
- Reduction of people based on 'usefulness'
- Futility / Inconsequence
- Body horror & torture
- Body image issues
- Medical horror
- Paralysis
- Arguments
- Police brutality (discussion of)
- Claustrophobia
- Explicit language
- Mentions of: enclosed spaces, needles/sharp objects, substance abuse, head trauma
- SFX: persistent droning, high pitched tones, repetitive mechanical noises, sudden cracking sound, meat processing, insects
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Edited this week by Katie Seaton, Brock Winstead & Alexander J Newall
Written by Jonathan Sims and directed by Alexander J Newall
Produced by Lowri Ann Davies
Performances:
- "Martin Blackwood" - Alexander J. Newall
- "The Archivist" - Jonathan Sims
- "Basira Hussain" - Frank Voss
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Comments
Rurrie
this is such a vegan podcast XD
Diane Shleibak
John wouldn't have forgiven Daisy, yet he went into the buried to save her. I don't buy it.
Sinclair Cross
I am! And I agree with you fully!
Danner Coolsteel
Good call! Are you a fan of the Big Finish Doctor Who audio episodes? They are fantastic!
Robbie Lyons
I wonder if this is Tom Haan's domain, or if he's still around. I was always curious about him.
Sinclair Cross
Strangely enough, the processing itself also eerily reminds me of the Cybermen in Doctor Who when all of the people are being mind controlled and willingly walking into this processing plant that transforms them into Cybermen by taking their brains out of their skulls. Not sure why, but it was my first thought going through this episode
Rebecca Dupont
Those speeches from Basira and Jon, some of the best this season and definitely current events appropriate. Loved.
marie CD
I've finally caught up and I have to say, the ride has been beyond my wildest expectations. The slaughterhouse statement was just brutal in its clarity of The Flesh (oof!). The dialog between the Archivist and Basira was heartbreaking but what sent shudders through my soul? (Basira) I thought we were good (Archivist) I know how that feels Whaaaaaatttt????
Sinclair Cross
That sound effect to Tyler's neck right at the end gave me chills! And then Jon saying, "Useless" in a deeper and growling voice...love that. I am excited (nervous?) for the next episode! 😅
HailtotheQueenJ
So thankful I had already finished eating when I listened to the episode. Less thankful that my usual listening buddy was asleep.
Heather MacKenzie
The Archivist's last line and Basira's realization that she's going to have to kill Daisy were sobering. My heart hurts for both of them and it hurts more for Martin because at this point, we all know what's going to hurt the Archivist the most.
That Podcast Queer
"No one gets what they deserve, not in this place, they just get what ever hurts them the most , even me." Took me the fuck out because I'm very sure it means bad things are going to happen to Martin and I can't. I. Am. Not. Okay.
Paola Ivanna
so im just going to go ahead and assume that daisy... isnt going to be okay? its fine im fine everything is going to be fine
TJ Hoffer
Wow, Jonny, thanks for reinforcing my hatred for the meat industry once again. And I like that Basira is confronting, in a way, everything she did, both before and after she was sectioned.
Catherine Hills
I always unfortunately seem to be making food when I listen to the flesh episodes. Such high quality horror, and the discussion at the end was needed. Hmm I am in constant fear of the end of the show, but very excited to see how it progresses
Julova
that was some meaty dialogue! (i say this but internally d r e a d)
james evelyn
Hm! I'm in pain! Ouch!
LainyJP
I'm struck by how immensely sad this episode is. And I feel like a lot of what is being said is foreshadowing the Elias confrontation.
Vex Darcera
I really feel like the quality of TMA has improved even more with S5 Act 2, didn't think that was possible... A really good episode sound and content wise
Marianne weber
Daisy noooo
A very wealthy divorce attorney
That club is just what the tma fandom is.
David Litvak
devalued human life, now with EXTRA devaluation!
Alex
THAT STATEMENT... CAPITALISM? CAPITALISM! VERY CAPITALISM!! I love the moment of drawing his own cuts of meat, and of being ultimately deemed useless (like a form of twisted, helplessly unwilling rebellion against the system).. GAAUGHHH!!!!! also MARTIN. IS PWECIOUS. AGH.
corvidae
youve got devaluation of human life on there twice
Sadie Moon
Didnt expect to get emotional for Jon's fear at this stage but here we are.
corvidae
mmmmm . m e a t .
Gilligan Mungus
Re Jonny getting the slaughterhouse vibe, I don’t want to think about the research he did to get the tone and details right. Also I want to say I’m sorry you had that experience but I don’t want that to come across wrong. I’m gratefully ignorant when it comes to slaughterhouse realities and I also don’t know if your experience was traumatic for you. Basically what I’m trying to say is I hope you’re okay. 💜
Gilligan Mungus
Oh man. First I’m never ever ever eating beef or pork again. I mean I rarely have since Killing Floor but oof. Also Martin’s in danger. Oh man is he in danger. Also also methinks Daisy is done for next episode or so and it’s going to hurt so much. We all know how good Fay and Frank are as voice actors. Double oof.
ThirdFromTheLeft
Wow! What a powerful and well done episode. I think this was my favorite Flesh statement ever. Extremely well done. Also when Jon's voice changed in that one bit I nearly jumped out of my skin bc I wasn't expecting it. And the post statement bit was so powerful. Amazing voice acting and writing.
ttroutlaw
who wants to join me in the stupidly holding out hope for a character we are literally told is doomed club
martin kachow blackwood
YEAH that line literally made me say "ruh roh" out loud
martin kachow blackwood
OH, AND the statement was awesome as well. i have been loving the way the apocalypse has revealed that a common hook of the flesh (or, a flesh hook, if you will. lmfao) is that whole "Being Less For The Purpose Of Being Useful" thing. that was a really interesting way to give the entity its depth. it's shown me that i’m... pretty marked by it myself!
Lurkin
That statement! Gosh I've had some slight involvement with intensive farming and slaughterhouses and this really captured the vibe... The tilted floor detail really got to me. And the callback to Jon's hunt scar is so poignant, that scene where he begs for his life was very memorable.
martin kachow blackwood
oh my GOD, what an episode. it felt like such a cathartic release to hear jon acknowledge in his way that what happened to him in the forest was deeply traumatic jon’s coexisting acknowledgement of daisy’s struggle and appropriate inability to forgive her makes their relationship so much more complex and powerful. he literally tore that rib right out and buried himself alive for her, and yet, his sacrifices for her were NOT forgiveness. he knew that forgiving her wouldn’t be doing right by himself or others. that’s some true eldritch solidarity, and it really fleshes out the loyalty he’s shown to others who have hurt him. ...ha. 'fleshes.' martin: Press X To “(Sympathetically) Oh, Jon”
Citruslusche
well now im sad :( i mean i kind of expected it but i still had some hope that daisy could be saved. well thats what we got fanfiction for ig
bramblepaws
this was viscerally upsetting in the BEST way. really deeply enjoying the season.
Moonwatcher13
Good lord thats fucked. Amazing. Terrifying. Jesus. Poor Jonathan Sims. Poor all of you
Owleics
"They just get whatever hurts them the most. Even me." What does it meeaaannnnn?! Oh god, I can't see this ending well. Awesome episode as always!
sAZAndorable
This was SO GOOD! YES! FINALLY! I never stopped loving Basira a lot but DAMN this episode really validated those feelings, and also expanded them a lot. Wah! And that performance from Frank!!
Killian
I always love episodes with The Flesh. They very much unsettle me. Also pleased with Basira admitting she knows her thinking was wrong in excusing what Daisy did. I keep thinking about Jon saying "even me" at the end though.
Aberdonia
This was extremely good and also an absolute gut punch.
Victoria Lapteva
With every episode that goes by without featuring Daisy I grow increasingly impatient and terrified. It's an interesting mix.
DJDembo13
that was literally amazing I am unbelievably sad now thank you
The Leo!
DAISY HAS TO WHAT
Tess
Great ep! Could maybe use a content warning for bureaucratic/organized mass murder (I'm not sure exactly how to phrase it, which might be why the warning isn't there...kind of a difficult concept to pin down). That particular form of violence has its own historical baggage and can be a very specific trigger for some people.
Sav B
Oh, excellent. Excellent, excellent. Thank you! A way to think about the processing line I hadn't imagined! Can't wait to hear what happens next.
Alienea
God. That was really something (quite excellent). Loved it
GriffinsTreehouse
That was BRILLIANT
jcssc
I think I can speak for everyone when I say, ohhhh boy...
Harley_treefrog
Oh, my biggest fear... hello there
Ren MacKinnon
*me vibing to the sound design on this ep* i love this song
Bunny
Can't wait til work is done so I can listen! ❤️