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A mixed bag at Bag End

🕑 Added 2020-11-02 16:03:40 +0000 UTC

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Autumn Brooks

Man, nice job spinning/framing the reaction to the new merch line. My friends and I all agreed you framed the release and future plans really elegantly, nicely done!

Resa

Dear Lottie, not offended at all! I love the podcast and it's the best thing really if everybody does. If I decide to speak up on behalf of individuals from a group, I know that not everybody within that group will agree with me, that's just how it is, and I'm OK with it. To be honest, I don't know what would be a good thing to say or do for them. Personally, I think the episode would have been a great opportunity to have a POC guest writer on the show. From where I'm standing the most important thing is that the conversation keeps on happening. Nobody's perfect, everybody's learning. RQ has exceeded so many of my expectations since I've started listening to their shows and I honestly wouldn't bother asking them for more consideration if I thought they wouldn't want to or weren't able to give it.

Lauren Allen

Glad to see the multiplayer streams have been popular and that you all have noticed--I've really enjoyed them so far!

Meredith

Hey there! Just want to suggest the TeePublic link be put on the RQ website (or somewhere more conspicuous, if it's already there.)

Lottie Lynn

Dear Resa, Your intentions are very well-received, I'm sure. I mean this with no irony, but it is really nice to see someone care so much about our PoC voices and work so hard to uplift others whom you believe to be the receivers of injustice. I'm unfortunately not really sure what else Jonny or Alex could say to you, or, more crucially, the PoC who have been hurt by this episode, that hasn't been in the episode already. They seem to have intended to make a point about how positions of privilege (not JUST white privilege--police brutality and the carceral state exist in countries that don't have a majority white population too) affect how one interacts with authority, and if we are assuming in good faith that that was what yourself and other fans got out of it also, then I fail to see what further clarification they could provide at this stage other than just saying "We shouldn't have written that episode, sorry." Which, again, as you seem to know, isn't something all or even most PoC fans would agree with. Even on the episode proper there are comments from British PoC who have found the episode to touch on very important topics that ought to be addressed! Nor does Anil saying he'd mention the feedback to Jonny and Alex definitely mean they'll respond publicly; they could just file it away for the future. In any case, I do hope you aren't needlessly offended by other PoC finding your demand to be futile or even unreasonable.

Resa

Hey, I think I wrote very clearly whose voice I was trying to uplift: black fans/of colour who have serious issues with or been hurt by MAG 185. I know that many fans and many black fans/of colour enjoyed the episode and found it meaningful and I am glad because that‘s what they‘re for! However, me speaking up for the parts of the community that felt very different doesn‘t take away anything from those who enjoyed it. When MAG 185 was published on Patreon last week, Anil already said in a reply to a fan that he would mention this to Alex/Jonny. Asking the community manager about this is something respectful I was taught an ally could do when the cheers of the majority threaten to drown out the concerns of the few/vulnerable. Your assumptions about my (or other fans‘) ignorance of different justice systems, intersectionality, who RQ‘s sensitivity editor is or “what the episode is about“ are also the most patronizing comments I‘ve read online in a while. Nice to meet you, person on the internet. I do know all of these things and I still have an opinion that is different from yours. Your concerns with my comment do sound genuine, but the way you present them has “whataboutism“ and “derailing the argument“ written all over it. My point was: “Please Anil, tell us about the thing you said you would do last week,“ and that still stands. Take care Resa

ThirdFromTheLeft

I am sure this comment is well intentioned but it continues the trend I saw this week where a lot of white people kept treating POC as a homogeneous group that has all the same opinions. This isn't true. Different POC have different views and lived experiences...like ANY group of humans. What about the POC who enjoyed the episode? Many found it meaningful and important. Look at the comments on the actual episode on the Patreon post below for example. And what about the POC who were hurt by white people continuously speaking over and for them (I saw SO much of this on Twitter)? Some people also were upset because based on the trigger warning they assumed the episode was about different content than it actually was. Also remember different countries have different types of justice systems and systems of oppression. The episode was about how it is bad for the privileged to ignore systems of oppression that don't hurt them but do hurt underprivileged groups (which include POC but also the neurodivergent, the poor, immigrants, queer people etc....and of course there is a lot of intersectionalism between these identities). The content and trigger warnings were reviewed/generated by the sensitivity editor who is a WOC. I certainly think the content is not for everyone. (That's why trigger warnings exist, but I don't think saying that privilege can lead to harmful complacency is a bad message).

Resa

Hey Anil, great news all around! I hope everybody at Rusty Towers is well or as well as can be considering everything. I'm typing this comment from my kitchen in Germany where we're also going into lockdown today and I just... You know, I hope you're all safe. I was also wondering if you'll have any news for us maybe later this week about the concerns raised about MAG 185. Seeing many fellow fans hurt by the episode's topic and its presence in the podcast at all, I hope you'll have a word for us from Alex/Jonny. It didn't hurt me directly because I'm white, but I'd still like to know that you take these concerns raised by your black/fans of color as seriously as you take others. What I love so much about your content in general is how safe you make for so many different people to enjoy. Please don't be silent about this. Take care Resa

Shelby C

Hope you all stay safe, sane and healthy with the new lockdown. On the merch front if you were able to do an enamel pin set that would be incredible! I'm a sucker for a good pin.

Rusty Quill

It's Emeka - I have corrected it above.

ThirdFromTheLeft

So glad the merch launch went well! Looking forward to the Halloween Special part 3 and of course Quiet which looks like it will be another delightfully complex, intellectually and emotionally compelling episode. Stay safe in lockdown. The amazing work you guys do has definitely helped me stay sane in quarantine.

Lurkin

Yesss lotr episode!! Excellent.

Arcturus

Like this comment if you want enamel pins 👀

quick question that is mostly minor: is azu’s brother’s name meant to be spelled emeke or emeka? would be helpful clarification for the rqg wiki so we can make sure it’s correct 😊