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The Magnus Protocol 17 – Saved Copy

🕑 Added 2024-05-21 15:00:24 +0000 UTC

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Chyou Xian

Super late but I love Alice and I beg the eldritch men in charge of writing to spare her please, thanks :)))

Axis S

I don’t think it’s confirmed but it seems implied that there’s something going on there / variety of theories around it - something along the lines of Martin Jon and Jonah slipping through to this universe and somehow trapped in the computer system at OIAR something

Ash

Alice is an icon

Bruna G

I’m guessing the Eyepocalypse is what happened, but he doesn’t remember it.

Erica

Yes, absolutely! That's exactly what I was thinking! And Darrien mentioned needing to walk up through an office space to get out of his therapist's office, which lines up with the Hilltop crack being in the basement!

Kate McKiernan

Oh, agreeing with you! It’s in Oxford, as in, where Hill Too Road is. Where the crack is. Heck, this is an old case … it might be on the crack.

Erica

Yes? Sorry, I can't quite read the tone you were going for -- would you mind explaining a bit more?

Kate McKiernan

It’s in Oxford …

Sunkissedbeetle

The title ''Saved Copy'' makes me think of the whole case with Sergey Ushanka in Binary - could be related to the whole JMJ error

Valerie Kaplan

Not a shot in the dark at all. Go watch the trailer again and take a GOOD look at the loading screen…

Valerie Kaplan

“Augustus” and Jurgen aren’t the same voice actor. Similar sounding, yes, but if that were the actual goal then they’d just have kept Paul Sims. Plus there’s no narrative logic to Leitner ending up there, he died more than a year before the Eyepocalypse. Jonah was present at the end, and his body was dead but I bet his eyeballs were still viable…

Valerie Kaplan

Oh, I have NO doubt that Daria’s surname in particular is Gray. 😉

Clown

hmm jmj error comes up again...

Aleksa H

hands down my favourite episode so far!!! i started tearing up from excitement the second i heard the word 'catalyst' <3

Kate McKiernan

Delightful episode. Interesting to see the balance theme and across dimensions. I was fuzzy on who was in the basement. He mostly isn’t specific, but at one point it sounds like they’re (dead?) father: “I couldn’t join him down there with our father in that horrible halogen light.” Maybe a metaphor?

Kate McKiernan

I was super happy to see them!

Kate McKiernan

A lot of names similar to “Dorian,” which you know, checks out. ;)

Jayson Bailey

So Celia has slipped through to the another side, inadvertently I'd guess, and is sleepwalking? Into trains? Martin and John were at the anger management place too possibly...

Ariane Signalis is the Elster Signalis Fan Club and challenges you to play SIGNALIS without pointing at any of the characters an

"The ad lib was that she didn't write a full stop" has such a cheeky tone, I can't imagine Jonny Simms ISN'T doing the :3 face

Ember

Ahahaha I also thought that's what I heard at first! Did a mental double-take. :-)

Ariane Signalis is the Elster Signalis Fan Club and challenges you to play SIGNALIS without pointing at any of the characters an

What if the "baby" is OtherCelia?

Unknown Tear

True

Ariane Signalis is the Elster Signalis Fan Club and challenges you to play SIGNALIS without pointing at any of the characters an

In fairness to him, he also ended the harm being done by his serial killer doppleganger. He could do more, sure, but I don't think it's fair to saddle him with the guilt of his double. And it's going to be one of the few cases of anything close to "good" triumphing over what is clearly and demonstrably evil we get.

Ariane Signalis is the Elster Signalis Fan Club and challenges you to play SIGNALIS without pointing at any of the characters an

... what if there are two Ceilias as well? Celia says she has a child, but Alice is proof that whatever Eye-Style shenanigans can and do capture moments outside the Office with relatives... or people you meet in the case of Celia, Sam, and Gerry and Gertrude. But on her own, we just hear Celia. What if the "sitter" she is hiring isn't for a child, but for her alternate self?

Ariane Signalis is the Elster Signalis Fan Club and challenges you to play SIGNALIS without pointing at any of the characters an

I think the big debate is whether it's "Jon-Martin-Jonah" or, based on the voice of Augustus in the Violin case, "Jon-Martin-Jergen"

Ariane Signalis is the Elster Signalis Fan Club and challenges you to play SIGNALIS without pointing at any of the characters an

What if it's a Thing, as in the movie from 1982

Rowan

One of the best so far. AU is one of my favourite tropes. Along with all the story crumbs and possible cameos (?!), loved it.

Ian

Already looking forward to relistening to this season.

Honey Coffee

Colin :(((

Mother of Ferrets

Ooh so much going on here! So many crumbs!!! I'm going to have to binge register to them all at the end of the season to get a better feel for how the dots might be connected.

Richard Clark

Has anyone confirmed if the recordings done by Jonny sims are actually supposed to be recordings by the archivist?

Erica

I wonder if it's the Magnus Institute's OUTREACH Centre because they use it to reach out to other dimensions

Erica

Oh I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought that haha

Valerie Kaplan

Hang on. Haaaaang on. The case subject in “Futures” was ALSO named Darrien. Darrien Laurel. (AND we’ve had a Daria, and a Darla.) Is this a Thing, or another Michael situation? 🤔

Nemo_Nihil17

Possibly. However, I think John, Martin, and Jonah are specifically involved in the OIAR, not copies. I think they "chose" this case to poke at Celia. I think "Chester" is calling her a copy of this universe's Celia, when in reality I bet TMA Celia hijacked TMP Celias body. TMP Celia is trying to find an escape, even if that means death by train, like the beginning of this episode. Maybe this case was meant to be a hidden message for her

Gabi (Tao)

Imagine that! Meditation and therapy is what stands between Darrien 1.0 and serial killing. I guess the lack of a fancy manor with a convenient basement also helps.

Frankie Frankenstein

I don’t know why but I got genuine chills when it got to ‘consider it a happy ending’. Just something to it. And how did he wind up so emaciated? Starved as if for months. What happened in that moment of transport…?

Gabi (Tao)

I wonder which Magnus staff member Darian was talking to and how they would benefit from therapy / anger management. That was such an intriguing side comment. I also agree that the new receptionist and the other patient did feel like Martin and John. And the comment about stroking orchids made me laugh. I'm so looking forward to finding out what the Wellbeing Mutare Materia research institute is!

Grace 'Gengar' Soria

Alice has the best quips, lol. "Oh, am I? Good"

Quizzy1313

If ever there was a reason to crack out my conspiracy board this is it. Celia what are you up to?! Colin what is going on? A JMJ error?! Urg so many dots to connect....

Kristsune

Oh this case was Excellent! Loved the classic creepy vibes.

Connor M. Carnall

Oooooooooooooooo I loved this casement

Rue

Im not sure if its just me, but every s sound makes it sound like the audio peaks.

mercury on the moon

i personally would be a big fan of the saved copy theory being true because it would bring back that ambiguity about what happened to jon and martin

mercury on the moon

there’s also “Thinking back, I almost wonder if the same thing happened to them...”

mercury on the moon

a note on the title: could “saved copy” be referring to what chester, norris, and augustus are to jon, martin, and jonah? are these “saved copies” of the real people? could be a not-so-subtle clue or a total red herring, i’m not sure

MuddyHippy

I heard Weyland Yutani too! I am *CONCERNED*

jo

receptionist & other patient at the beginning = jonmartin therapy meetcute au???

Heather MacKenzie

OH THANK GOD! I wasn't the only person who thought that!!

Gabriel V

FIRST OFF FANTASTIC EPISODE but secondly, I know it's a small detail but it came to mind when it was mentioned. Towards the end when a "JMJ error" is mentioned, perhaps that stands for Jon, Martin, Jonah. Probably a shot in the dark, but couldn't help seeing that possibilityy

MarlaBothBothIsGood

Jonputer, I LOVE your brain

MarlaBothBothIsGood

I NEED IT TO BE THEEEM

MarlaBothBothIsGood

REVERSE NOT-THEM!!!!! (brought to you by Community's top episode) WHAT A STATEMEEEENT (the concept of finding the alternative you which is the same but NOT REALLY...UF) Loved Celia's Cold opening

Patchrat

i wonder if the same thing happened to them

OopsieDoodles

Please let it be them. Please. I just need them to be happy in one universe, please

grace

celia ripley i don’t know what kind of weird shit you have going on but i am in love with you

Eve Dickson

Exactly what I thought!

Audrey R

Sam “isn’t a fan of horror” LOL Buddy I have some bad news for you

Audrey R

AM I INSANE or did the receptionist who “was a big, soft guy who stumbled over his words” sound like Martin and the “bookish looking guy with serious city miles” sound like Jon??? HELLO???

DavidCoppAFeel

Whatever dread power this thing serves is my new affiliation

shmudkip

the noises i just made. the dots…….. i need to connect the dots…………

Mice and Moonbeams

Ok I'm not crazy!! I thought so too!!

ece

One of my fav episodes so far!!!!

Trisidael

He’s trying his best lol 😅

J Burns

Jonputer: here's another story about a dimension hopper who locked his evil alternate self in a basement. This will cheer you up, right? Celia: ....well it's the thought that counts I guess

Willow Edwards

the way i heard it and immediately thought of them too LMAO

Erica

I love Celia and Chester's weird half-relationship that's developing

James Rule

Magnus Archive (this one) also looking for a catalyst...

Unknown Tear

Ah yes paying taxes. That makes up for all the wrong

Seal

I couldn't find anything interesting on Welling (I only did a quick search, honestly) but materia is Latin for matter and mutare means "to change." So that's interesting

Seal

Welling Mutare Materia

Fae

Also can we talk about how the person @ reception was kinda described like Martin and the other patient waiting was kinda described like Jon?…

Trisidael

If so, that would explain why she has a baby now… ooo dark thought. 😬 Although, she said it wasn’t quite the same, so I imagine her situation is less straightforward.

Anthony

THIS CASEMENT.. GUH, MY FAVORITE TROPES ROLLED INTO ONE🥺 Feeling so fed this Magnus Tuesday… So many tasty office plot crumbs too… and Alice and Gwen’s banter continues to be my favorite.

Fae

“Not exactly the same, is it?” CELIA??? HELLOO??

Trisidael

5:20 The descriptions of the new receptionist and the other guy in the waiting room…. It might just be my headcanon brain, but those sound a LOT like Martin and Jon, right?!

Trisidael

HOLY SHIT THIS WAS A GOOD ONE!!!! 😃

Darian Walter

Why do they have to use my name in this. Makes it so much more existential

Willow Edwards

so celia totally replaced her tmagp self right

Ellie J. B. R.

Have we heard of Harcourt House before? It rings a bell, but I can’t quite place it. Also: are we thinking this Magnus Institute Outreach Centre is built on the ‘dimension rift‘? It is in Oxford after all and it’s the place Darrien comes to after his meditation…