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Sad Boyz Nightz #62 - "Meanwhile at Google..." (w/ Stanz) [VIDEO]

🕑 Added 2024-05-17 20:49:51 +0000 UTC

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gee davis

it always makes me feel so bad but also so not alone hearing y'all talk about mental health stuff. I know this is old but I'm a new member working my way thru the catalog and I just need to say thank you to y'all for how candid you are. I wonder how much of these feelings mentioned in this ep are related to ADHD and rejection sensitive dysphoria.

Lee U

Yo fr having the same psychiatrist since I was 16 is sooooo helpful. Just every year i get to check in and he tells me how much i've improved in ways i haven't kept track of and i'm like damn i had no idea

Lee U

Yeah I've started getting large packs of pre portioned snack bags of cheese itz and veggie Straws and that's helped so much Like plastic waste bad but also me eating so much i feel like i'm gonna throw up is also waste, really.

kittythelitter

Listen i know im 99 years late to this conversation but as a chronic tummy issues + adhd food issues bitch "hungry before bed and can't sleep" or otherwise hungry at a time when I shouldn't do a big eat is a common problem and I've got a few things that I cycle through to deal with it. 1) things that you have to put a little effort into making, and then you make just a snack amount and even though you want more you have to put in work to get more. like microwave quesadilla, frozen chicken nuggets that go in the oven, frozen spinach + potato star shaped nuggets, make a handful or one tortilla folded in half. 2) Things that are good in small doses before they become sensory problems like nuts/granola/trail mix (my jaw gets tired), Spinach + dressing (mouthfeel gets weird + unpleasant for me), takis (I reach a point where the flavor is Too Much) 3) things that are individually packaged (I know its bad for the environment, i know. but my brain and my guts are not friends and it's a Solution.) I really like high fiber brownie bites because they make me feel full but they're also chocolate. If I use one too many times in a row it stops working so I try to mix it up and have Safe options for all three methods in my kitchen at all times.

Sophie Consoli

Jarvis talking about “I didn’t give anyone a reason to like me” and also earlier about “why does this person like me if I haven’t shown the best side of myself” is very interesting. I’m sure he’s aware of this, but to me the conclusion of those two statements is that he is just likable to many people regardless of whether he is at his best or putting effort in.

Ethan Provençal

thank u Jordan, I feel seen ab the accidental flirtyness

Skiddly Winks

I love having nature valley bars on hand bc sometimes half of one bar will completely fill me up and then I'll be able to lay down just fine. That or leftover vegetables are sick

Skiddly Winks

I feel the same way but at the same time I'm wildly unreceptive to whether or not I'm being hit on in the moment--my brain always defaults to thinking they were just being nice to me. I feel like it's more obvious with men, but when a lady compliments me my brain shuts off lmao

Skiddly Winks

I rarely use vc when I play ow now because the "Is that a girl???" line happens like every match. I'm literally just tryna game and it's tiring to hear, even if they're not being nasty about it

Sarah N

I really appreciate the openness on this podcast; the way you both talk about your experiences makes me feel less alone in mine. Thanks for doing what you do :)

Jerica L.

awww I wish I could be Jarvis' wingwoman! You have such a great personality, but as someone with social anxiety, I know how it feels to get nervous to approach someone you're interested in.

teddy

rizz tip: when approaching someone you want to know in public, give them your number on a paper or something. it gives them the option to reach out without being inappropriate or cornering them at all. i usually say "hey, you seem really cool, this is my number but i don't expect a response, and no weirdness if you're not interested." :-)

andy

as someone who grew up in saudi and would never go back there in a billion years hearing jarvis say he’d never take the saudi money made me smile. hearing people say negative things abt saudi will never not bring me joy <3

Vickie

Ouuuh I needed me a sad boyz nights episode more than i realized. Been so tired this week and so sleepy and sort of depressed because I'm tired but then tired because I'm depressed. Hearing you guys talk, and also the journaling bit ; so soothing. Did my dishes. A miracle. Thank you so much <3

moth man

Diet Coke actually contains more caffeine than regular Coke

hrtzgod314

38:59 "didn't ask" I fucking screamed 😂

Coralee Snow

Jarvis can sing???

Jamie Ruwen

hi sad boyz - i’m not one to leave a comment or parasocially psychoanalyze people, really. but what jarvis said about his food stuff hit so close to home i just had to say something. cw: disordered eating, food insecurity, brief drug use ment). i grew up food insecure. for the majority of raising me and my sister it was hard for mum to put dinner on the table every day. toasted bread with a slice of cheese and a slice of tomato, ‘broccoli soup’ that was just a blended broccoli with veggie stock, and a baked potato with nothing else were staples of our diet. my mum always tried to keep us healthy and we almost never ate fast food. by the time i graduated high school, our deep poverty days were over, but we still ate at home pretty much exclusively. certainly we’d never get take-out, both because it was expensive + unhealthy and because we lived in a rural area where there wasn’t much available anyway. when i moved away for university at 19, i was suddenly on my own in student accommodation with truly revolting kitchens (we had two for 20 residents) — i found a roach INSIDE a fridge once. i was too scared to cook in those kitchens most of the time, but, being in a big city, i was now surrounded by junk food opportunities. i developed a sort of dependency on food delivery apps. it was exactly like you described: i’d try to eat healthily throughout the day, but when 11-12pm hit, i would order hoards of take-out. sometimes i’d get 3 delivery orders back-to-back in the same night. i didn’t even like the food all that much, but it was like i was making up for all the junk food i never got to eat in my child-and-teenagehood. it became a strange way of comforting myself and re-living childhood. i’ve always been prone to addictive behaviours (alcohol, weed, nicotine…) but this was definitely the most bizarre of all of them. i never saw a doctor about it at the time, but when i told my therapist years later she said i might have had a type of binge eating disorder. i wish i could say i grew out of it naturally, but it only stopped when i moved out of that disgusting accommodation. during the first covid lockdown i lived with my mother again, and i taught myself how to cook properly. i didn’t dislike cooking, but i wasn’t very good at it. when i moved out again, equipped with some solid cooking skills, i relocated to a big city across the country into an apartment i shared with only one roommate. we had one rule: cleaning the kitchen before bedtime. as soon as i was in a space where i had access to a clean and organised kitchen every day, my binges went away. i didn’t feel the need anymore when i stopped focusing on how my body looked, and started listening to how my body felt. at around the same time i got into the ‘body neutral’ and ‘intuitive eating’ movements. those things really helped me accept my body and repair my relationship with food and satiety cues. love 🫶🏻🫶🏻

Riley Sischo

She GPT on my AI till I Open

Beau

I know this might mean very lately since we're all effectively strangers but considering what Jarvis said about how he feels re his audience and how they feel about him, I can promise that if they're anything like me they absolutely love you and appreciate you as a content creator! I've been a fan of yours for some years now and this is the only podcast I've ever subscribed to on patreon because I NEEDED the extra content, you're both super comforting to listen to and entertaining. And to Jordan, you never come across as annoying, you always hit the balance between humour and genuine emotion and are just overall very relatable. Love you both! 💙 (In a normal non parasocial way lol)

Joob

This one felt so cozy, thanks for the great ep ❤️ also have to force myself to respond to messages. there’s something so exhausting about it

Nobody needs to know

I really empathise with Jarvis on feeling down when your friends arent around becasue you begin to doubt if they think about you. People learn object permanance at such a young age (peekabo etc) that an object is still their when you arent looking at it, but i feel like Emotional Permanance isn't taught or discussed, and it can be real hard to remember that everyone still likes you even if they arent currently reinforcing that.

Mari Sakai

jordan's girl in the overwatch chat bit hitting too hard . people are SO fucking weird in online gaming public chats

Kyna

sorry for the wall I just wish people in general would take threats to creative industries more seriously

Kyna

i gotta be honest i pretty strongly disagree with the take that people should separate the "benefits" of ai tools from the capitalist result of recent ai. As someone in a creative field, they are inseparable. We can't talk about new ai tools without acknowledging the harm it will and is already doing to peoples livelihoods. They are already built on theft of creatives work that is required to even make them. Any potential minor convenience these tools can make in my job isnt worth the normalization of artistic generators that encourage company executives to replace or shrink creative teams. It doesn't matter if some studios use these tools responsibly. The majority will not. And aside from the financial/career impacts of these tools, the misinformation that both text and image generators are already being used to spread is unacceptable

Yessica

Idk why I felt the need to say this, but shohei matani apparently didn't know about any of the gambling. It was his interpreter who was spending all the money.

Elizabeth Geddis

aside from ai art being theft, and the fear of ai replacing jobs, my problem with ai is that ONE chatgpt request, is the environmental equivalent of dumping out a bottle of water and powering a lightbulb for 15 minutes.

aleia r

normally, i’m a silent watcher of the patreon pods, but hearing you, jarvis, talk about your eating/diet concerns was so insane to hear - it was almost like listening to myself when i was deep in the throes of my struggles. i hope i’m not overstepping saying this because i quite literally had the same habits of the late night eating, i was addicted to the delivery apps even when i had food in the house (bonus points for what jordan mentioned about further sabotaging in lieu of the delivery fee 😭) — it was intense. though i still struggle, something that ultimately shifted things for me & actually helped me start making the longer term change, as well as being more consistent with less “slip ups” is what my therapist told me about focusing on what’s evident and not solely relying on your mind. like you said, its completely valid to “eat when you’re hungry”, but for me in binge eating, the logical brain is out the window so i can’t always do that ofc. food noise, especially when combined with the self destructive mindset has a really funny way of making you thinking you *absolutely* NEED, i.e that jack in the box to SURVIVE — not only the night, but what sometimes feels like trying to survive my life for me, as if not eating it would literally kill me — when that leftover sub will do you me just fine if i’m genuinely hungry. instead of relying on that side of thinking, i was given the homework of just sticking to what is evident in the 3D of my hunger & my feelings towards food (physical cues like stomach growling, lower energy/fatigue, actually craving for foods that i know actually have the nutrients i need to heal my health concerns instead of that one random donut at 2 am, etc), instead of trying to appease the stress & anxiety that comes with the food noise, making feel like i need to eat the entire town to shut it up. it’s a muscle that, again, im still WORKING lmao, but i hope maybe that could be something to think about at the least. it always gets me hearing others struggle with that because food is one of those hard things to grasp, but it will get better for you. not always perfect, but better, and i hope that’s the case for you sooner than later! all the best to the sad boyz! :)

Carolyn!

I relate so much to Jordan on being able to be super friendly to people I will only interact with sparingly. Strangers of any form I can be easily charming with but once there is an established relationship that "facade" falls apart I also relate to Jarvis when it comes to food issues. I don't allow myself to order delivery, especially foods that only can be delivered by ubereats/door dash. I have to constantly set rules like this for myself or I would be 300 pounds heavier than I am. If I even so much as let myself download the app and use it once i will start to use it regularly, then I have a new self inflicted demon to fight.

harmony

jarvis try noka superfood smoothies they’re so yummy

Carolina Lawson

I really appreciate y’all discussing dating in this episode. Although I am a queer woman who already has a partner, I know that it’s been really hard for the young men and teenage boys having to navigate the dating world with toxic alpha and incel culture becoming more popular. I work in pediatrics and see the devastating effects toxic masculinity is having on today’s boys. They’re lonely. You guys are creating a welcoming and positive environment for the young men in your audience without excluding women and enbies. Thanks guys:)

Emily

as an autistic (former) barista, i 100% don’t think that barista was intentionally looking away from you. honestly, it could mean that she’s nervous around you, tho i could just projecting my own personal experiences. you’re a lovely person, don’t give up hope!

Emily

i struggle with the same issues with food/disordered eating that jarvis talks about, and one thing that’s helped me eat better is finding fruits and veggies that are safe for my dogs to eat. i’m more encouraged to buy them cuz if they go mushy or i have scraps leftover from preparing them, i’ll use those as toppings for my dogs’ food. it’s especially helped with stuff like blueberries, strawberries, raspberries, and blackberries because usually when you get a package of berries, the texture and quality between berries will vary and you might not want to eat every single one of them. plus, i’ve found fruit to be good for my binge eating issues because if i do end up eating the whole package of strawberries or something, it doesn’t make me feel like shit physically and mentally

Rachel Eakes

The whole bit about friendship made me feel so seen. I don't have much of a social life since moving back home from living abroad so when I dod have social interactions I always ask myself if it was too much

Laura Jones

Jordan idk if you want breakfast suggestions but if you do I suggest getting a few different items and mixing and matching every morning. Like if you have eggs, bread, fruit, and yogurt cups, maybe even some granola, they are all things you can use for other meals or can be saved for quite a long time, and you can be like oh I'll make an egg and have toast and fruit, or I'll just throw some granola and fruit on some yogurt. I find it makes simple food feel more interesting and combines a lot of like essential heath stuff, and can be dumbed down on low energy days.

Kschiwy

I am a big fan of being a full blown almond mom and eating almonds all the time when I want to eat but Im not hungry

astroquarium

Okay saltine crackers taste fucking delicious tho. I’ll have them with a little bit of cheese or meat like a DIY lunchable but they’re also great on their own

IAmALeaf

I feel you on needing a snack you aren't going to crave but that will give u that little food boost. The thing I've found that works best is something like nuts or a little baby bel of cheese because they have fat and protein as opposed to carbs. Carbs spike your blood sugar and leave you to crash. Fat and protein give u a slower drip of energy.

Karlie

I love the idea of a meet cute because dating apps make me deeply sad but the reality of someone approaching me in public makes me fully shut down. There’s truly no way to win

MJ

The using off brand tech video idea is very similar to Kurtis’s old tech video

Sav Singleton

Also (part 2 lmfao) I feel the friend thing so fuckin hard. My brain just assumes they're people pleasers and only hang out with me bc they feel bad 😔✊️ I love being autistic with anxiety :D

Sav Singleton

Also, sorry if I'm over stepping with this, but I'm a med student and your fatigue could maybe be a thyroid or an insulin issue (like if you're insulin resistant)

Sav Singleton

My thing with appetite is just being on adhd stimulants limits it like crazy, but in a good way. I used to just eat and eat bc it gave me dopamine and kept craving that dopamine rush

Jackie J

My ears perked up at Jarvis' mention of vitamin B12 and D3 for fatigue. I also got suggested to start taking both for fatigue following a recent blood test, and now I'm just waiting to feel a difference.

rivercxrpse

also stanz looks 10x different than the last time i saw him on jarvis’ fact or fiction streams or valkyraes collabs w him lol

rivercxrpse

common orca W

rivercxrpse

ok but why aren’t we talking about the fact that jarvis’ singing sounds fucking beautiful?

Nimo

Right now the only social space I have is the store I work at and whole dating thing on apps is not working out so I’m always secretly hoping somebody would approach me at work. I think you just need to kinda gaige the vibe but I doubt most people are opposed to being approached in public. Just be respectful is all <3

Rohey

let me just say these guys look so nice today :))

Agent Ember

Love me some Marc Rebillet, but confused why they got him specifically. Same vibe as getting a magician for a sweet 16.

M. Bickers

FWIW, if I was in the social circle, I would be desperately wanting to set my friends up with Jarvis, because I can't imagine anyone with better vibes. (Maybe they should ask their female friends if there are secret set-ups they've been holding in. Especially since navigating fatigue can make it difficult so people who ALREADY GET IT is so much nicer when dating. My girlfriend is a whirlwind but I never feel like I need to "sell" her on my disability limits.) And I am biased because I do know performance and improv training, but it's really clear to me that when guests are on, both hosts try to hold space for THEIR reactions (with Jordan's little impish cut-ins and Jarvis playfully scolding bits). It's so obvious that there was one ep, not sure if main ep or nights, where Jarvis got this WILD GLEAM WHILST TALKING ABOUT POKEMON and was uncharacteristically OKAY BUT LET ME TELL YOU ANOTHER THING ABOUT THIS POKEMON that it made the section extra funny, since he clearly could not keep the beast inside. But no, anyone who isn't an actual child should be able to see "allowing guests to speak" as a sign of maturity and manners.

Evan

I really appreciate all of the mental health conversations. You guys put a lot of my experiences into words that I struggle to articulate, so it really helps me formulate own thoughts more clearly and work through things. Great episode as always <3

RoWan

I get similar stuff with thinking I'm hungry when I'm just having stomach issues, then immediately being able to sleep if i eat even just a little bit. Honestly taking an IBGard really helps most times

Ares Xenia

In the middle of a public place is arguably one of the better ways to be approached, just for safety and some semblance of oversight, but there’s so much there in regards to tone and body language that can make things feel scary still. Parasocially knowing Jarvis though I feel like he can shoot his shots, because he will be not only the bare minimum of a respectful human being 😅