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Skyvenom: Chapters 12-13

🕑 Added 2024-08-10 17:00:07 +0000 UTC

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Sarah Lin

You'll get an answer this book!

guillaume nguyen

Question, will Senka stay a Betrayer to Fiyu much longer ? I wish their relationship improves since they'll 'soon' be 'in-laws' but for that, Senka will need to apologize first.

Sarah Lin

Hello! Always nice to hear from new readers. ^-^ Krikree tends to view the world in rigid categories, as you've surely noticed. In the beginning she was just his prisoner because he spared her, but his kindness gradually caused her to move him into the "sister" category. Given her life history, she is very inclined to latch on to sisters. There is a broad parallel in terms of names that will eventually be fleshed out, but don't expect it to be a story-defining twist. If you like the slow burn on the relationships, hopefully you will enjoy how they progress in the series as a whole!

Desert Yeti

Bunch of questions from a new subscriber. First, Why is Krikree so fixated on Theo? I may have missed it, but is it just because he spared her or some other reason? Second, the Ruling Cities of Fithe , NY, LA, SF, [M]Austin, etc, are those just references for the reader or should Theo be paying attention to how Norron has similarities to North America? And I had to laugh at Theo stating that he had no time for relationships. I'm looking forward to him realizing that he and Senka have become lifelong friends without ever noticing the process. They're perfect partners, cynical, vicious, and bitter while trying to be better. I love their growing relationship. I love power couples so I'm also looking forward to Nauda and Fiyu one day being confident and just stomping through an enemy army together.

Devon

I'm in favor of the "intelligent races are beast crafters who learned to build up." as it allows for building out too. As far as the drawback to doing both, the most straight-forward answer is that it'd make break-throughs more violent. With a greater radius, you'd also have more sky to fight against. It's a significant increase in potential power, but also a significant bump in bottleneck risk. As far as burrowing for multiple floors, as so far described, I don't imagine it would be impossible, so much as you'd need to allow your roots and soil to grow every time you did so, greatly expanding the time and investment required to break through each new level, when compared to growing out or up. Kinda want to see Theo do all three now, in his obsessive preparation for Vistjal. Also rather interested to know what it is you're supposed to do with quarried foundation. Does it make particularly powerful mortar or bricks?

Sarah Lin

I forget where this is explained in the novel, but it is like a cellar door just beside a house. It's possible to excavate through the floor of the soulhome, but often difficult or inadvisable.

ZJJ

OK, so where is the entrance to the basement? Theo began digging in his field, but Senka said the basement can be as wide as the soulhome. Does the soulcrafter make an outside entrance but dig under the soulhome, or will Theo need to excavate through the floor of his soulhome itself?

AnythingAtAll

I also absolutely love how Theo has become wary of even Rulers and Archcrafters. The most dangerous soulcrafter is one that doesn't underestimate any of their enemies.

AnythingAtAll

I may have liked some choices less than others, but I mean it when I say I fully trust your writing! No matter what, they've always gone in an interesting direction, and I respect that you've stuck to your guns. Also yes, I may have gone a teensy tiny bit overboard with the speculation lol. There's just so much to dig into, basements aside!

Sarah Lin

Dang, 1500 words. This chapter really inspired you. Sometimes I get nervous about your enthusiasm, because this book is going to take a twist you're not anticipating.

Sarah Lin

Thank you, glad to hear from people who joined during the give-away. I have plenty more plans and I hope to be able to show them to everyone.

AnythingAtAll

Finally, some basement lore! If each subsequent ascension increases the amount of space the soulcrafter can dig into their foundation, what's the theoretical limit? Does it cap out at right around Authority and Stronghold or does it keep increasing until the final tier? Breaking through gives the equivalent of one floor, but would ascending further eventually give the equivalent of two floors? Maybe three, one for each block? Also, how connected would the basement floor be to the rest of the soulhome. I imagine this'll be very relevant to a soulcrafter like Theo who relies heavily on complex cantae flows. Is there enough space for Theo to soulcraft structures that can add something to his flows? Or would it be like an Ethereal Floor that's primarily isolated from everything else? If it's the latter, I agree with another commenter that it's likely Theo will put his Field of Abrogation in the basement. It seems tailor made for that. Though, at the same time, you'd think Senka would've mentioned how common that is if a Field is that compatible with a basement. Then again, she's still three-fifths cursed. I like that Senka explicitly asked out loud what the shape of a soul is because honestly, the idea of soulhomes does seem a bit... arbitrary, for lack of a better term, in that the power system that defines this universe takes the shape of a home of all things. Not trees, mountains, statues of the soulcrafter, or maybe even Worldcrafting, or something. It had to be a home, specifically. That's what the soul thinks is the most best form it can take. There are so many interesting implications no matter what the true origin of soulcrafting is. If it was an artifically created system by some forgotten people in the ancient past, then it could explain why they designed it to be a home, specifically. It's a stable and important structure that kept them alive throughout eons. However, I find the idea of soulhomes being an offshoot of what sublime beasts had to be far more interesting 'cause it has some wild implications. For one, I think it implies that soulhomes aren't technically soul *homes*, per se. They're just very stable spiritual structures that can withstand the pressures of ascending upward and reliably house the soulcrafter from threats over and over again. From there, the home-specific features we're familiar with may have emerged naturally. Their soulstructure produced cantae, but they needed to shape their flow so it can be effective, so they built interior walls. They figured out sublime materials make their cantae stronger in an infinite number of ways depending on the material, but they needed places inside the soulstructure to store those materials properly and differentiate it from other materials. Okay, might as well build rooms, and hell, furnish it, make it look better, why not. Flows wouldn't mean anything if they can't travel across rooms and outside the soulstructure, so they built holes in their rooms and soulstructure. These room things are looking pretty close to the rooms they have in the real world, so might as well soulcraft those holes into doors. And hey, if they still needed to see into the real world while soulcrafting, might as well make those holes windows. Over time, the soulstructure became the soulhome. We know how important willpower and other abstract, spiritual concepts are in shaping a soulhome, so perhaps modeling their soulstructures into their homes in the real world also gave them a sense of personal identity, which could be essential for any kind of structure connected to one's soul. The intelligence that the dominant species of each World evolved may have also played a part in shaping the nature of soulcrafting. Sublime beasts likely have inherent mechanisms that shape their soulhomes automatically based on what species they are. That begs the question of why insects specifcally are the most intelligent demons, but that's beyond the scope of the topic. Point is, any species intelligent enough to deliberately manipulate the process, putting this sublime material there in this specific manner, rather than relying solely on the mechanisms built into their bodies, may have naturally come to the conclusion that the best soulstructure, taking into account stability and spiritual connection, is the soulhome. Now, the fundamental aspects of the soul, as well as why abstract concepts like willpower and a soulcrafter's self-image still affects a 'physical' structure like a soulhome so much is an entirely different topic. But even if I'm way off the mark here, I think it's pretty clear that the fundamental shape of the soul that Senka asked about isn't there to support home-like structures specifcally. In fact, if we're to treat soulhomes as spiritual counterparts to real homes, then the soul is probably a spiritual counterpart to the world. The reason why there's a ground and sky is because the world has a ground and sky. The reason nonexistence bounds a soul is because a person has this flesh/rock/wood/ structure that also separates them from the world called a body. In fact, it's very interesting that Senka describes the boundaries between worlds in the Nine as infinite nothingness. The boundaries between different souls may very well be treated as infinite nothingness. And going off of that, perhaps the reason why cantae can't be absorbed in and of itself like usual magic systems like mana, qi, etc. is because of this representational system between the real world and the soul. Boundaries are very important in order to differentiate the representations between objects; otherwise, they'd all be conceptual goop in the noosphere or something. And since cantae seems to be the main and perhaps only factor that separates 'real' objects from sublime beings and materials, you can't play willy-nilly with the very foundation that defines your spiritual existence in the Nine - perhaps even beyond, if Vistgil's fixation with a cantae-deficient world like Earth despite using cantae is anything to go by. This went *way* beyond basements lol. Still, it's always a delight to gain more insight into the foundations of soulcrafting and the Nine. I'm not surprised that the gang won that fight without a fight. They've been punching up their whole life, so when they do meet their ostensible equals, they stand completely above them. The Occoire Court seemingly has an army at their disposal and can treat a force like this as a warning shot. But it also shows how seriously Sartozi is taking the gang if this is what he considers a warning shot. I think he knew deep down the trio would've defeated him together, especially if Theo hadn't been poisoned. That pesky invisible Ichili, that stonewall Tatian that can tank his full attacks, and whatever those black thingies are that the foreginer can seemingly throw out repeatedly, which he immediately recognized as lethal. He was going to keep slipping, and at some point, it'll be one mistake too many. I don't think he's underestimating them one bit now. The more interesting takeaway here to me is that armies aren't off-limits in convocation warfare. They're treating it as an actual war, so the climax of any conflict treated like this can easily involve entire armies in sizes that you'd see in actual warfare. Again, Nauda's remark that this system is so vulnerable to corruption remains accurate. That can so easily escalate into devastating battles that'd ruin the entire point of convocation warfare. My Bloodcrete predictions from last week is becoming more real. 👀 I'm already loving the complex, multi-layered setup of the conflict of the book, but having another Battle of the Dustwind Plataeus in Deuxan is going to put it far above the rest as my favorite one. And that wasn't what excited me the most about Chapter 13, either. It was the last line. "If the politics were tangled enough, a little more power would make no difference at all." Fuck yeah. That's exactly what I want from this conflict. A clash between soulcrafting powers is already a given, but political messes burning every plan into ashes is when the real battle starts. By that point, all bets are off, virtually nothing is off-limits, and all the intricacies of soulcrafting become nothing more than simple bludgeons in the ensuing chaos. In fact, if there's one thing that I thought could've been done better in the lead up to the Battle of the Dustwind Plateaus, it's orienting the reader into all the involved parties and the politcs between them. But this whole book seems to be all about Deuxan politics. Even if the final battle isn't going to be as big, I think we'll be a lot more grounded to the fight this time around. I haven't been this excited for a climax since Chasmfall! I can't wait to see how the gang handles the Ostic Courts.

Elliott

Presumably Fiyu wouldn’t have needed to expand her shielding wall at this point if she had used the same trick at Theo to push it to its limits when first built…

Elliott

Yeah the “step backwards” is a brain teaser. Dismantling something? The only structures we know that could probably be safely dismantled are either the dominion floor (since it has nothing above it) OR the shielding wall… I could see dismantling the wall to somehow enabling a push “out” like you say being a cool idea that no one would normally try. (And then the out also pushes up)

Elliott

In any case, I assume Fiyu has an idea of what (if anything) Guchiro put in his basement, so the gang should have at least *one* practical example to consider for ideas. Given Fiyu has less cante reserves than the others, maybe just the extra storage space/generation of some basic basement rooms will help. I have no idea why, but for some reason I keep returning to the idea of Nauda having a bar/socialising place in her basement. 😅 Not sure what she could have that fits with the physical design of her Soulhome statue… maybe it doesn’t need to match exactly. Underground plant chamber for more bondsfungi-like things?

Elliott

Yeah, for Theo he probably doesn’t want any additional cante flow being injected into his spherical one from below… so probably wants isolated chambers (a whole floor for a monument, or maybe all passive things like enhancement chambers/defence). He probably doesn’t *need* any more passive internal boosting though, given he’s building his corporeal movement at the moment. For Fiyu and others maybe it makes sense to have cante flow up into their first floor, so you could strengthen base techniques (or augment them - imagine if Fiyu has a chamber that augments the energy type of her light storm, or allows some secondary effect like burning or originating from a remote point)

Alexander Hallonblad

And I am now all caught up, thank you very much for the kindle give-away! This has been a great ride, I hope there's plenty more ahead!

Sarah Lin

Yeah, I just transposed the words by mistake.

Keid

My guess would be that a basement would be the perfect spot for Theo's field of abrogation. Abrogation is basically nullification, and Senka notes that fields don't synergize well by their very nature. I'm guessing that they don't do great with complex cantae flows in general, since they presumably cancel out cantae. So a basement, outside of the stacked sphere-cubes would make sense.

Keid

Why did I see the whole comic version of Chapter 12 just vividly in my mind as I read it?

ZMX

Ch. 13: "The legs representing her towers were basically just columns, without more elaborate shaping." Would this work better as "the towers representing her legs"? Since that's how it is a couple of paragraphs up as well.

V M

Seems like Poor Authorities ala Noven

Tokufan178

Soulcrafting lore my favorite. The basement doesn’t seem like there’s much opportunity for inter-floor synergy but maybe it’ll get drawn into the first sphere of abilities. Wonder if the Deuxans will spin this as an attack on them. Thanks for the chapter!

DiAlpha

Hmm my pet theory was that there was some trick to passing Dominion by moving in a different direction. If its not out maybe its more down?

Jerek Kimble

It's the "we were just testing you" group, huh?

FoolRegnant

Just Deuxans being Deuxans again

benjamin ireland

Hrrrrng yes crunchy theory mmmmmm


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