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Theological Obsolescence

🕑 Added 2025-01-09 16:37:28 +0000 UTC

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John Bierce

It literally is Luddite fan fic lol, the Luddites were awesome. Rather than being superstitious peasants terrified of machinery, they were highly sophisticated labor rights activists protesting child labor, drastic reductions in pay and increase in working conditions, dangerous workplaces, and the dissolution of communities. The machines they smashed were smashed with hammers made by the exact same companies, and the Luddites would only target very specific machines in factories. They were genuinely awesome. And then the British crown murdered the hell out of them, and the capitalists of the time started a century long smear campaign portraying them as superstitious peasants afraid of machines. If you're interested in reading more, Brian Merchant's Blood in the Machine rocks. As for the writing style... yeah, fair enough. This sort of style definitely isn't for everyone, it's very much an experiment- but then, that's a big part of why I write short stories in the first place, to try and push my boundaries as a writer. (The genuine failures never get shown, hah.) Writing weird stuff like this makes me genuinely better at writing more normal stories.

james apfel

I finally read this after reading TCTWETW and while I hate being a hater, this just reads like Luddite fan fiction and barely a story tbh. I am sure this comment won’t be received well, but I hope the writing goes back towards telling really good stories and away from being a Randian level of political heavy handendess.

JasonD

Seems a ripe opportunity for a force majeure clause to be applied--it must have been an "act of God" and therefore not a crime at all: just a thing that happened as an historical event. Perhaps more of an act of small gods, in this instance, though.

John Bierce

So many tears

John Bierce

Not at all, lol

John Bierce

That line was a bit of a late addition, I'll give that some thought.

John Bierce

One key conviction I have about technology, one that leads to a lot of arguments with techbros (and generally more positive reception from other tech folks) is that the social structures around a technology are, themselves, a part of the technology itself, that you cannot stop considering a gadget at its physical borders. It's irresponsible to say "this technology is better" without asking "better for who?" In a better world, a more efficient system might have resulted in better conditions for everyone, except perhaps Revodna- though ideally, even Revodna would still be cared for, would still find a useful role in society.

John Bierce

Yes, but deliberately so- that simultaneously wordy but pared-down prose, where I leave out words that I can imply instead, is a style I find increasingly attractive these days- but it can be hard to make it look intentional, unfortunately. Punctuating it different might have helped? An em dash or a semicolon instead of the final comma there? Hmm.

FoolRegnant

I think this sentence is missing a word or two: "The Angsha Confederacy, however, rarely leans on patterns of behavior, focuses almost entirely on chains of cause and effect."

Yaboku

I always hate cases like these. More effective solutions are sometimes opposed just because "jobs are going to be lost" or similar. Often that's also just an excuse. But if we actually lived in a a good system then having tondonless labor for the same result would always be better. For example the workers could have all donr less hours for the same pay and the god replacement would have only been positive. Except for Revodna, I guess, which is another layer in this universe. Similar to how automation is sometimes depicted, and rightfully so since we do not in a system that would favour the working class.

HappyTrails

I love the writing style and content here, as usual. Thanks for sharing! The “it could not have actually happened” line felt forced. Something without a cause can still happen, I’m not sure how one leads to another?

Conrad Wong

Another great parable that in no way resembles anything happening in the modern world. ^.^;;

Merlin King

What a deeply normal system, with no downsides at all. Such a shame the god didn’t want to enter the city any longer, I’m sure the workers are weeping for them

John Bierce

Oh lol it has switched And yeah, I absolutely love playing around with different formulations, paradigms, and understanding of religion- we tend to have a really rigid default understanding of what religion is today, and even ignoring having materially extant supernatural beings, there's such a wild variety of religious paradigms on our own world! It's a topic of deep fascination for me. (And one I try to approach respectfully- for all that I'm not a man of faith, I have no interest in following in the annoying footsteps of the angry atheists.)

Bronkeykong

The voting was so close that it’s switched to the other story now lol. I find it interesting that the gods have had such a bureaucratic effect on Ishveos. A lot of the stories have a flavour of grounded social mores rather than more religious, esoteric ones. Partly, I suppose, because gods are as common as ants and many of them are so niche and borderlines useless. I imagine it doesn’t inspire a lot of religious fervour for a god of a pump. Just practicality. Very interesting.

Angela Roberts

Oh the commentary!


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