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The B.E.E. Podcast - 8/16/19 - Anna Khachiyan - SILVER

🕑 Added 2019-08-16 21:01:14 +0000 UTC

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Darren

Bret always delivers great opening monologues. This is an interesting overview of the zombie/Manson mini-series from Bret. I wish FOX had made it. This potential 10-parter sounded very promising!

Neil G.

he's a pseudo intellectual pile o' dogshit...you have officially crossed the line into subhuman retardation of the highest order...you and those three people were probably always there 😂😂😂

Malcolm Jones

Can she say neo-liberal any more? Even self-help is neo-liberal apparently. Even things that predate neoliberal economics are neo-liberal. Her streaming services are neo-liberal. Not everything that relates to individuals is neo-liberal. Just stop.

Antonio Primavera

Dry up, crybaby! Morrissey has called out Trump during concerts here in Mexico. We Mexicans LIKE Trump. We don't want a ton of foreigners trying to move here either. But, this is Mexico, so we don't suffer too much from it like the US or Europe. The US is fucked and Europe is on its way. Wake up!

Antonio Primavera

That's an interesting take on the "beating up Bruce Lee" scene. I like it. I did not like the scene before reading this. Thanks! :)

Antonio Primavera

Thomas Bernhard! Yes! One of the greatest! Peter Handke, too! American "post-modern" really is shit in comparison to the Austrians.

Dan Zilic

FWIW, Leo's Mum is German! Which is why he speaks about of German and visits Germany every now and then. Is second name is Wilhelm! I don't know how Anna would claim he is Russian, maybe just because she really thinks he looks Russian.

Chris Tempel

I'm betting it's his millennial socialist boyfriend

Chris Wright

well aren't you just so superior Peter!

Chris Wright

or Alonso Duralde, or Christy Lemire

Michael MacGowan

Surprised by this conversation. It could have even been longer.

James Dardis

My best friend and I each had different takes on the Bruce Lee scene. Neither one of us thought that it belittled Bruce Lee; but, she thinks Brad Pitt's character is recalling a memory. I think Brad Pitt's character is daydreaming. He's on the roof about to fix the antenna and would rather be working on set. He's mulling over the reason that he can't work on set, which seems kind of bullshit to him at the time, kinda goes off on a thought tangent where he kicks Bruce Lee's ass, comes back to reality and accepts the fact that it is probably best he's not on set. If the sequence was a daydream, then it was a tremendous compliment to Bruce Lee, daydreaming of whooping his ass.

Ben Ovenden

Let's base the entire podcast on getting offended at people who get offended. Let's keep whipping that straw man until it's well and truly dead.

Olivia

I love Anna, so happy you had her on

Oleg

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yln8wee9ehqtz86/AABXF0xBhA8n1ZNsjNwFovjYa?dl=0

Laura Woods

This episode finally addressed Bret’s views on Vanderpump Rules. Thank you Anna for broaching this important topic.

phuq paytch

I'm at a childhood friend's house in Villa Bonita, and the conversation is lagging so I mirror the BEE Podcast to the Apple TV from my phone. Immediately, as I listen to the pilot sketch for Bret and Zombie's Manson TV show, I think to myself how much better THAT would have been than the aesthetic failure of Once Upon a Time... Mr Ellis shan't agree with me –– which accounts for one of the joys of aesthetic reality: differing opinions –– but a period piece of that time, coming from two auteurs that really understood the tone of Helter Skelter, would have been much more to my liking. Oh, well. Such is the fate of those of us who rely on others to create art, instead of making it ourselves.

Mark Cleary

I’d like to know who the audience for The White Crow is and how it could possibly make money.

Peter litvin

I found this guest to be quite boring. No desire to finish the episode.

Billy Vega

Side note: Peter Biskind would be great on this pod. He has his own theories on where entertainment is headed (back to movies again) and I'd love to see Bret and Bisk hash it out about that and the 70's.

James_Sobotka

Thaddeus Russell and BEE podcast when?

Chuck

Replace it with “what do you think of Morrissey?”

James_Sobotka

I just want to note that OUATIH reaffirms the theory that Tarantino and Ellis shared that although this was the dawn of the golden age of cinema a lot of movies were not that good. I think that's the point Tarantino is trying to make by only showing us billboards for things most people never watched. Also, I truly love the juxtaposition of DiCaprio's scene shooting a western and Pitt actually being a classic western hero at Spahn Ranch. There's like a reaffirmation that the thing we think of as westerns is just a creation. We don't really know what people were like in the late 19th century west. Very smart movie and I think listening to BEE prepared me for it.

James_Sobotka

I also want to know this. Also, is there a better way to listen to episodes than just patreon. He only has like 20 episodes on podcast apps and they are from 2 years ago.

Mara Capozzi

This may be my favorite ever. I wish I could have gone on forever!

Michael Gagne

So happy Bret brought up the Brody review. I could barely finish reading it due to my eyes rolling so hard.

Kovitch

By all means continue to love Morrissey’s music. His recording career has been exceptional, even if the overall quality has dwindled in recent decades. And yes, his reputation for controversy & single-mindedness has always been part of the appeal. But US fans might not appreciate exactly why he’s so out of favour in the UK currently. He isn’t just rubbing people up the wrong way, via trademark quirks of personality. His public support for the Far-Right political party ‘For Britain’ is embarrassing at best. It speaks less of a ‘great intellectual’ - as Anna bizarrely claims of him here - more a narrowing of the imagination. Envisage Michael Stipe suddenly advocating David Duke & the KKK and US readers will get an insight into what we’re dealing with. The group ‘For Britain’s’ overt racism is a contributing factor to the rise in race hate crimes in the U.K. In short, things are getting ugly. Morrissey is, in his own strange way, now complicit with this. It’s not a complete surprise Morrissey has aligned politically with this group. His distrust of non-English natives has always been there, lurking amidst his fetishising of mundane English life. But this is different. His support for ‘For Britain’ is impossible to defend. Of course his position is manna to online SJWs. But it’s also objectionable to people without serious political gears to grind. Morrissey is of course free to say & sing what he likes. But others are free to call him out on idiotic positions & question his motives. Manchester’s favourite melancholy son has screwed up big time here. The Smiths will always be one of the great bands; his solo career will remain compelling. But there are some transgressions even exceptional lyricists don’t get a free pass on.

Martin O'Connor

Does anyone know where I can get mp3/audio for Bret's episode with John Carpenter? Thanks.

Raf

We’re still waiting for you to interview Armond White and Bruce La Bruce. Make it happen.

Daniel George Sanchez

Definitely keep the Eagles question.

Billy Vega

Please keep the Eagles question.

mike contreras

I wish my fellow lefties could treat the Bruce Lee fight scene as a catharsis. It's not a far leap to channel that scene where he challenges Trump after blabbering that he could have stopped the Parkland's shooter or any other ridiculous dillusionsal claim. That working class masculinity is what my dogs need

Alex Waller

you bet! the back and forth is what it's all about!

Brian Rooney

Fair enough! But c’mon now. Zoë Bell stinks on ice. Appreciate the response! BEE rules.

Alex Waller

Have to disagree, the Bruce Lee scene worked completely and is key to the themes of the rest of the movie. The whole movie is about celebrating the good things people like Rick and Cliff brought to the table which are missing in today's world. One of those things is a no nonsense, salt of the earth toughness that is not flashy but gets the job done. What better way to exhibit this than having Cliff win a fight against Bruce Lee? It also works in the fact that people generally view western stars as Hollywood fakes who have none of the qualities of their characters, but for whatever reason people have completely boughten into the fact that Bruce Lee is actually the characters he plays, and could actually win a fight against like fifty people. Not that Bruce Lee isn't an all time great but it's a reminder he was a Hollywood showman like everybody else.

Brian Rooney

Spelling mistakes be damned. Patreon on the phone is a bit of headache

Brian Rooney

1. Understandable if the Eagles question is retired. But it is a great way to end the show. It is a really neat concept to kind of get a final Rorschach test from a guest by way of a 1970s soft rock band, a group of LA-transplants. Very apropos for Ellis... 2. Great guest, great show 3. The Bruce Lee scene just doesn’t work in general. It’s not funny or interesting. In terms of the chronology of the movie, it was highly emblematic of the crummy Family Guy, non-sequiter style Tarantino now has. Remember Goerbells in Inglorious, that throw away sex scene? Weak sauce, boomer. Weak sauce.

Warren Sikes

Great episode....however....Once Upon a Time....in Hollywood IS Tarantino's best movie and Matt Damon would have absolutely eaten shit as Cliff Booth; and probably sent the movie's popularity into a tailspin because audiences would have associated it with that idiotically smug pseudo-Coen garbage he's been a part of as of late. . Matt McC would have been fine as Booth but I can't picture Wooderson fighting Bruce Lee to a draw or beating the daylights out of hippies....I honestly didn't believe him for a moment in True Detective. Anyway, really enjoyed the episode.

Kovitch

Re Manson, Tom O’ Neill’s new book ‘Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties’ highly recommended. Lots of new stuff. 20 years in the writing. Bugliosi’s prosecution questioned & legal writs issued. More here: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/jul/07/chaos-charles-manson-cia-secret-history-sixties-tom-oneill-dan-piepenbring-review

Javier G. Madrigal Jr.

you guys gotta record these the monday before releasing. otherwise it’s too much distance from the buzz of a movie and when we hear bret discuss them.

Brooke Clifford Porter

Loved seeing the scenes at El Coyote and Casa Vega... need to go home soon

Sebastian ospina

So excited to listen to a podcast marketed as the dirtbag left, and the fatalities in mainstream media! I especially love it because by his own admission Bret loves to watch the news, cares deeply, and is extremely informed! Can’t wait!

Eric Macom

also, if you just want pure Morrissey photo aesthetics check out Kevin Cummins new-ish book

David Morgan-Brown

just here to say please don't retire the 'what do you think of the Eagles' question, not at least until someone references The Big Lebowski

Michael Walsh

Re, OUATIH: If there was anything for woke critics to get huffy about, it was Cliff facing off against the horrific harpies (ex-wife, TV producer): a glaring comment on the current climate.

James Reeves

If you have a passion for The Smiths, there is a 600+ page — reads quickly — book called “Morrissey & Marr: The Severed Alliance: Updated & Revised 20th Anniversary Edition” by Johnny Rogan.

James Reeves

In reading Morrissey’s autobio, I believe he claims that Mike Joyce (drummer for The Smiths) - via British courts - was able to seize more than $3 million of Morrissey’s assets. Base player Andy Rourke was unable to take a similar path because he had previously settled with Morrissey and Marr.