S6E20: The Park Was Never Built with The Perfume Nationalist
🕑 Added 2022-10-11 00:29:37 +0000 UTCPodcaster The Perfume Nationalist and Bret Easton Ellis discuss sharing a lifelong fascination with Fleetwood Mac's Tusk, Jeffrey Dahmer's victims getting their own Netflix series and feeling Linda Tripp's pain.
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trueblue1098
Great episode, would love to see jack back on the show (or vice versa).
Rebecca Tague
One of few podcast episodes I’ve listened to more than once. Jack has such a unique perspective, I love him. ❤️
Tracy Stapleton-Lutkins
Loved this episode!
paul dakota
Never heard of this pc. Thank you.
Andrew McGovern
This and Simon Rex are two of the best BEE podcasts
Don Jolly
Oh shit! I was on TPN a few years back. Cool to see Jack here!
Bazayer
Fantastic guest - Bret and Jack had great rapport, with both super knowledgable about movies.
Phoenix
Haha, good references :) Sleepovers were fun esp in the 80s. Mannequin and Labyrinth were also in heavy rotation
David Willis
Completely agree about Blonde. What a fantastic emotional and visual ride. Like a David Lynch Hollywood nightmare so I get the Fire Walk With Me comparison. The reaction is surely coming from trigger warning culture. I noticed on Twitter the other day, an amateur writer was asking whether she should put trigger warnings at the start of her novel because it’s about suicide. Of course not. If you aren’t strong enough to deal with the reality of human pain and suffering don’t read or watch anything. Lock yourself in a padded room.
David Willis
Although I haven’t gotten past episode six of Dahmer yet I think I will end up having quite a similar view to Bret. The first episode may end up being the best horror film of the year (haven’t seen Barbarian or Smile as I live in Japan) and I found it creepy, disturbing and brilliant in terms of how well they recreated his apartment. It really works as just one full short movie in its own right. It’s gone downhill since then.
Elizabeth
I miss the monologues!!!
Mark DeCaro
A return to form. Loved it.
Stuart Chivers
The only way to get a radio-friendly, ten-track album out of Tusk is to remove Lindsey’s songs, at which point you lose the thing that makes it so compelling, the juxtaposition of his eccentricity with the more conventional material of Stevie and Christine.
bpvalentine
haha. No, I get it. I was just being a dude. To be honest, I hung out with just girls when I was around 9 thru 12. I'm disabled, not gay. (Sorry, I thought that'd be funny.). But seriously, I was jealous of that whole sleepover thing they had. In the end, I was always the dude. Kinda similar to Lloyd in Say Anything except I'm a much less likeable asshole. Even now I don't get along with dudes that well. I'm too weird for them. And they're fucking boring.
LH
i cannot believe that the Perfume Nationalist and Bret spoke to each other! Who's next?!
Phoenix
It’s because you’re a dude. I was 9 and in Girl Scouts when it came out. Trust me, it was on heavy rotation at sleepovers.
Ben
No Down Payment is great. I think it's the first Hollywood movie I'm aware of that isn't a noir that deals with the suburban American dream gone wrong. Joanne Woodward is great. Looking online right now, it looks like you can watch the full movie on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_fOZ_wBJ0Q
john m
This is a great episode- great conversation.
Tommy Stronach
Great pod, BEE. More conversations (rather than interviews) with like-minded people would be appreciated!
Pp358
I’ve started looking forward to this comment almost as much as the Eagles q.
Nick B
Agree on BLONDE. What a fantastic film. Similar situation, most people I’ve spoken to loved the film outside the outraged. Make sure to watch HALLOWEEN ENDS, can’t wait for your response to that…
Keith campbell
Family car trips with videos ? Feeling 👴🏼 now
Brian Rooney
Lol. It was in our family car trip rotation with Good Burger, Casper, Clue, Gold Diggers: The Secrets of Bear Mountain, Tommy Boy, and Addams Family Values … flooded with memories.
bpvalentine
For me, Troop Beverly Hills is best remembered for Jenny Lewis from Rilo Kiley being in the cast. Maybe it's because I'm a dude, but I just couldn't get on board with that movie as a kid. And I was an Outrageous Fortune fan, haha.
Phoenix
Please do more episodes together. But pushing back on Tango in the Night…it’s a great album!! Also Stevie’s solo album Rock a Little is sooo good. Of course this could be because I’m in the Troop Beverly Hills generation. Still holds up.
bpvalentine
I only ever heard Tusk when The Americans used it in its pilot. All. I wanted to know is WHAT IS THAT SONG?! The link I've posted (hope that's OK) goes to a Pulp song that makes me think of THE SHARDS every time I've listened to it recently. Something about the mood. The dread that's palpable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXbLyi5wgeg
Dave
Drudge would be an awesome guest. In fact, if memory serves, I may have been drawn into the works of BEE via the Drudge site back when the site was at the top of its game (I also became interested in Paglia’s works via the site). On the other hand, BEE notes Drudge is a friend so that may make a podcast invite uncomfortable.
Dave
Wonderful guest - the Rob Lowe interview is here on the Lost Hills podcast… https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lost-hills-dead-in-the-water/id1549249596?i=1000549232161
R. M.
Love this. Great guest. Please consider doing monologues once in a while. Totally understandable why you don’t want to do them, but we do love them!
Constantine
well played sir lol
Alex Bielovich
I found a copy of the Oate's "Blonde" in my grandmother's collection in early 2010s - fantastic book (one of her many)
Lachlan Reid
Great podcast, but I do miss the opening monologues.
Brendan M Campbell
TPN is a fascinating podcast. Start from the beginning.
K. Joseph
Loved this one. Mirage has some good songs though!
Adam Chin
Jack Mason is the man. Love TPN almost as much as BEEP. Bret, your turn to go on TPN!
adam r
So good! So glad you had Jack on!
Stephen Fletcher
Blonde was awesome.
Old Herringbone
Excellent episode! Great conversation!
Collin Myers
can i ask you about your history with fragrance? lol. this podcast never lets me down.
Patrick Crowley
My two favorite podcasters in one room. Fantastic
Thomas Edwards
Such fun. Lovely shared humour, and can just picture chuffed Brett rifling through the bathroom showing off his fragrance!
Elizabeth
Troop Bev Hills is a perfect camp movie - Bret you must watch!
Elizabeth
Amazing! Jack is an awesome guest…must have him back! Would have loved to have heard Bret & Jack get into a conversation about Shampoo…would have been interesting to hear them discuss their different points of view
Nick Vitou
FINALLY
Joseph Murphy
Subscribe to Perfume Nationalist. Been waiting years for this one!
Jon A.
Jack is great. I heard him on Red Scare.
aaron weisblatt
Off point- Bret- I went to the Village theater for the first time last week to see Amsterdam. Wow! What a theater! Projection and sound is fabulous. It’s the only theater I will go to now. Amsterdam was so weird- in the middle of it I felt like I was in an insane asylum!
M. Nero Nava
Also, PG keeps saying 2006 when referring to Tusk before “hipsters liked it”, and then saying everyone liked it in the late 2010’s. I worked at a record for twenty years: cool kids always liked this record, it was huge in early 2000’s
N.M. Janice.
The backlash and vitriol over Blonde is pure hysterics. If you don’t like the film, fine, but no one is even critiquing it in good faith. Showing a character in a work of fiction have an emotional or complicated response to an abortion is right wing propaganda now? This would be comical if it wasn’t actually happening.
Michael Cennamo
BEE and TPN are the two Patreon podcasts I subscribe to. This is wonderful; I hope the two of you talk again!
richard owain roberts
am going to listen on my run. will say more later, after my run.
Keith campbell
Troop Beverly Hills and Judith Krantz … I am less than halfway through but could this get any gayer ?
Poetical Gore
Surprised they didn't bring up Oate's book Zombie...which is pretty much about Dahmer without the name.
M. Nero Nava
As someone who worked in and out of the beauty product industry—I appreciate Perfume Nationalist. Also, I love talk of old LA, and I’m a big Tusk fan. Fun chat to listen in on.
Jorge Espinha
Good guest. Great review of Bros .
LowRes Wünderbred
The best guest in the history of this podcast.
Tom
Great guest / conversation - heard him on red scare recently and now, after this episode, I’ve subscribed to his channel
Patrick
Fantastic. Love Fire Walk With Me getting its due. 🙌
Vincent Nappi
The crossover we never knew we needed.
Mike B
I hoped Jack would make it on and I’ve been awaiting the Bros review since I first saw the trailer. This was a perfect episode!
Normaling
Not Bret one upping the Perfume Nationalist with some obscure swedish cologne 😂😂😂
PETER GREER
Fabulous episode…thank you
Patrick
Diving in! 😀