S8E22: Playing With Dolls with Susanna Hoffs
🕑 Added 2024-06-18 02:42:08 +0000 UTCSusanna Hoffs and Bret discuss learning the elements of melody from radio, watching the Beatles get weird and bringing the Bangles to see Beyond the Valley of the Dolls. Part 1 of 2.
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JT
Susanna was every straight guy's fantasy girl in the 80s, including this one. So talented. 👍
Gnome
I agree, the constant interruptions were infuriating
Brian Borough
Great episode. Uplifting
MisterBlasty
Susanna has always been a great interview. So glad Bret did this
Kathy Oldenburg
I’m so glad there will be a part 2. What a great conversation.
Dave
Just finished reading Hoffs’ “This Bird Has Flown” in time for Part 2. She’s a great writer - and what’s more - does a phenomenal job describing a musical performer’s perspective while “on stage” (I won’t say more - no spoilers).
Stephen Curry
I’ve always liked magical mystery tour too. But in truth, it’s hard to choose a best Beatles album. Help is like a small miracle after listening again…
Stephen Curry
That was truly riveting. The idea that Hoffs looks as good as she does and has THAT kind of talent and intellect is proof there is no god! Abilities are too unfairly distributed. Also she sounds cool to hang out with. I started listening to bangles again, and I’ve started to like the less well known bangles songs, like in your room and set you free. Thanks for another great show!
Alex Bielovich
This sounded like an uplifting one for Bret. Cannot wait to watch The Shards (on film!)
BRC
Thanks- I couldn't recall. Can't wait for the next conversation
Nikki Ferrari
Yes, at a party a few years ago through mutual friends that’s how he got her email address
Luigi Loris
❤️
Samer Akl
More Susanna Hoffs less Tim Pool’s production guy
Alexander Quattlander
BEE creaming his pants for this interview and I'm game...
Austin
Is there a list posted anywhere of Brets recommendations? Specifically for old movies…criterion classics.
Kevan christie
She’s showing Bret everything and telling him nothing
Lionel
There is a growing movement, which I am part of, that believe The Magical Mystery Tour is the greatest Beatles album. Also Purple Rain and The Velvet Underground were great selections.
Lionel
I watched it for the first time recently and thought it was fantastic. Feels like Freidkin tapped into some genuine dark energy. Or maybe it was just that everyone was scared of him on set and he turned the bedroom into a giant freezer.
Lionel
A lot didn’t work in that film… it felt like work watching it.
J Sopp
Has Bret ever talked about Mary Gaitskill on this pod?
Knokkel knokkel
Happy to have a guest again!
Adriaan
These are the episodes that make the BEE podcast special. Great ep!
John
Manic pixie dream old broad.
John
She is delightful.
Ashley
I didn’t hear her interrupting either, if anything Bret seemed to dominate the conversation at times
Oleg
well he often cannot finish a sentence because she started talking.
Sértő-Radics Sarolta
I read comments indicating she interrupted, but even on second listening, she seemed reserved and not interrupting... am I missing something?
Darren
Great part 1, loved this conversation. Susanna is a great guest. It’s cool to hear that they want to shoot the ‘Shards’ TV series on film—that’s awesome! It will look great, especially with HBO backing it!
Phoenix
Great interview, absolutely loved her. Danced to Walk Like an Egyptian in my second grade talent show lol, they were a big big deal at the time. This interview got me thinking, Bret should interview Gina Gershon. She grew up in LA too. I heard her on Marc Maron years ago and she had a ton of fun LA stories.
Phoenix
Saw in the theater 5 years ago and it just wasn’t as scary. Doesn’t have the hold on me like it once did, but still creepy.
Phoenix
You are hard to please 😘
Oleg
haha bret is struggling to finish a thought being constantly interrupted by susanna.
Darren Ankenman
Perfect example of a period film that does not work because it looks too clean/digital : Mank
Ashley
The upside down backwards stair crawl in The Exorcist is pretty freaky tbh 🤢
N.M. Janice.
This might be one of his best guests ever. Such a fun and pleasant conversation. Susanna really knows her stuff. I couldn't agree more about shooting on film. I know that digital is easier and cheaper, and it allows more people access to make films, so I'm all for that aspect, but film just looks so much better when you have a good director and cinematographer who know how to use it.
Edi Panta
FYI: 50th Anniv. screening of the PARALAX VIEW is happening this month in the Dallas theater where Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested after the assignation of JFK. LINK: https://x.com/mattzollerseitz/status/1801812954213421434
Edi Panta
Bret! What an amaze balls guest comeback pod!
BRC
Have they met before?
Romeo Delta Charlie
Love Garfield.
Romeo Delta Charlie
Yeah!
T Frick
Dirk Bogarde never gave a bad performance, and totally unpredictable. BEE, do a deep dive on that guy, would love to hear that essay.
Justin
Sounds like Susanna really lifted Bret's spirits.
N.M. Janice.
He’s been on before. I’m sure Bret would have him back.
Travis Films
He's been there
Travis Films
That shit was silly then and it's sillier now it's just silly
Harrison Bergeron
Griffin Dunne has a new book about his family and himself. He seems like an obvious choice for a great podcast guest with his iconic 80s movies and literary connections. After Hours will always be a favorite.
Nikki Ferrari
That’s a really good point
Devon H. Dolan
Hearing these two laugh like giddy schoolgirls really lifted my day — such a fun listen
Tyler Bolinger
This one touched BEE’s soul
Stevan Popovic
In the UK it got banned on video. They released in 1998 on cinema. It did not take much to scare people in the seventies. Many watching were under age. Laughing at scenes which should have been shocking.
Dave
Holy smokes - like two old friends! Can’t wait for Part 2!
Nikki Ferrari
Rufus Wainwright did that to Bret also and it was really hard to ignore. The constant disruptions were really distracting.
Nikki Ferrari
I have never thought that the exorcist was anything except hysterical
Collin Myers
great episode!
Collin Myers
hard disagree especially if you reevaluate through the lens of it being a metaphor for reagen being abused by her father--some essayist/critic wrote an article about this that i stumbled upon some years ago and it kind of blew my mind.
Collin Myers
time to revoke your patreon membership you have been on a run for like 5 years
Florence
No it hasn't! I watched it in the fall at a theatre for the first time and I was so impressed. I think what makes it "dated" is the copy cat follow up movies that diminish the how powerful the first movie was. But I did watch it w a friend who was seeing it for the first time also who couldn't stop laughing at Regan's behaviour while possessed...so it depends on who is seeing it!
David Lowe
Being one of several million men of a certain age who crushed big time on Susanna in the 80's, this was an awesome episode... can't wait for part 2
Shane Collender
Ho-lee fuck! The one we have ALL been waiting for!!
Dan Palmer
Belinda next. 🤞
richard owain roberts
am going to listen on my run. will say more later, after my run.
Stevan Popovic
The Exorcist has dated badly. Great first part.
Travis Danner
Get in the goddamn (Criterion) closet, Bret!!!
Cowboy and his books
This is a great episode
Patrick
I think Bret and Adam know the key to a great podcast and interview/edit this episode expertly. I love the pitter-patter chattiness here and think their conversation flows effortlessly like kindred spirits or old friends. Very enjoyable to me and love the break from the nameless dread of the last month or so. 🥂
Steve
I must be hard to please, but she constantly interrupts and cuts off Bret. She says "yeah yeah" over and over again. The key to a good podcast interview is not talking over each other.
Moz
Dream woman, a pure joy to listen to
PETER GREER
Incredible episode 🍻🤘🏻👏🏻💪🏻
M. Nero Nava
No surprise—Hoffs knows her stuff. It makes for a fun interview. Sorry for my preoccupation with BEE’s mood—but this seemed to pep him up. Also, Manic Monday is the best #2 hit of all time. Also, a little surprised BEE liked VU & Nico. Thought it would be too dissonant for him. Great melodies among the flat singing and avant garde minded arrangements.
Jonathan Talit
💝
Poetical Gore
we need video of this ffs
Constantine
Oh Susanna!
N.M. Janice.
😍Very nice!
David Noble
😍