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154. Athena

🕑 Added 2021-08-17 09:52:14 +0000 UTC

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RonGAR

Marlan joins my shit list

Johannes Oest

I believe in you to create a compelling story out of this situation. I liked the overall chapter but i just couldn't understand that situation. Thank you for responding to me and have a nice day.

Mecanimus

No it also pisses me off when people act in an idiotic way but at the same time if characters were always rational it would be rather unrealistic.

Mecanimus

Most rules and oaths are based on the vampire's belief that he or she upholds them. That is why they are not entirely reliable.

Johannes Oest

I can accept that. I have been told by many people that i am too logical and always overthink problems. Maybe it is hard for me to understand people who just react in the moment. I am really looking foward to the next chapter. Maybe they will talk about some of the thought processes there ;)

Mecanimus

For me, at that moment, it was about refusing compromise and injustice. No matter the cost. Jimena has always been inflexible.

Johannes Oest

I have slept over this chapter a few days now and i still just don't get it. Maybe Ariane killing Anatole because he tormented her again and again and always got away. Ok that i can understand. But Jimena? I really don't get it. Ok she really believes in justice and all that, but just executing someone because he doesn't adhere to laws? i mean aren't most vampires doing that and the Knights are exactly there for stopping that? She would have caught dozens of vampires who did the same and she wouldn't have executed them all. Yes she was angry and all but signing your own death sentence over that? There must be non corrupt Vampires in leadership positions in the order or it would have fallen apart ages ago. So why not bring it to them?

Thorlol

Got a question. All of them successfully renounced their oaths by claiming the other oathholders acted against the oath. The world (or watcher?) approved of that. Shouldnt that mean they acted lawful or atleast 'righteous'? Atleast in Anatoles case Arianne should have had every right to put him down. Marlans case is a bit wonky because I dont know if he had the authority to deny Anatoles imprisonment. But I am certain he went against the laws of the knights and therefore acted treacherous and against the oath, I think. Unfortunately I dont remember if the oath they swore included to uphold their own laws.

Kota

Ironically, Marlan might have also brought about his own end - by corrupting the system, he eroded the trust in it. And without trust in the system's ability to bring violators of the code - like Marlan himself - to justice, those still trying to fight for it are ever less likely to go through the system and use the proper channels. Why would they, if it's too corrupt to work? Marlan himself made it obvious that any justice Jimena and Ariane could hope to gain was by their own hands, and that they couldn't hope for the order to provide it. Doubtful Marlan realized all this - the way I'm reading him, his concept of law and order didn't go much farther than people doing what they're told, or more specifically, what he tells them to do.

Kota

Also nice to see the effects of such corruption in a system on those it is supposed to govern: I somehow doubt Anatole would have made the attempt if he couldn't rest so easy in the knowledge that even if Ariane should survive, he didn't have to fear serious repercussions, if any at all. Marlan certainly is one of those who actively instilled this confidence in betrayers and murderers like Anatole, and shares responsibility for any crime that comes of it. So he's guilty of infinitely more than a mere breach of protocol, and Jimena was absolutely right in not letting this pass.

Kota

Man, this was so incredibly satisfying. Few things I hate as much as people perverting and corrupting the ideals of law and order, doing evil while smugly championing themselves defenders of justice. And that is why I absolutely LOVE Jimena here - something like that can under no circumstances, ever allowed to stand, consequences be damned, no matter the cost. In other words, there's no better hill to die on. Also would be interested in knowing what the consequences of "going up the chain" would have been - it's obvious the Order has a serious problem with corruption, but the question would be how far up it goes. If they had merely subdued Marlan and Anatole and brought them before Octave for judgement, what would he have done? I guess we'll never know...

Kota

Well, they already tried to argue that Ariane might believe what she's saying is true, but is merely "too emotional" to realize what was actually happening, or allowed her distress and emotions to warp her perceptions. In such a situation (as laughable as the suggestion is), an oath would indeed be useless, because she would be telling an untruth without consciously lying.

Todd Kloos

I'm surprised that when Marlan was disparaging Ariane's record it wasn't pointed out that the previous night Ariane had defeated a major existential threat to the Earth, saved the lives of every vampire present, and made greater contributions to the order than Marlan and Anatole combined had in their entire careers. She was the best squire they've ever had. Also why didn't Ariane swear an oath to the watcher that Anatole tried to kill her? It would be tough to argue that she was lying if she did that.

Mecanimus

Technically yes but she would starve long before that.

Mecanimus

That would be too OP!

evyatar

Make herself even more of a callipygian beauty?

evyatar

The masks faction may take it up as a cause, a cease belli to intervene? Nice idea

evyatar

If Ariane goes to the north pole or the south pole where the night reign supreme for most hours can she stay awake for months at a time? A random thought i had…

Spectacular

Forget that thorn nonesense, Arianne's true Magna Arqua is the deadly ability to conjure flaming pigs out of nowhere.

Jonathan

Vampires like drama right? Can one of the dvor onlookers like write this up as a play? The lines (especially Jemina's) and her ostentacious margna arqa moment just begs to be a tragedy. That would be kinda super cool and would probably knock the knights reputation which the factions wouldn't mind taking a hit.

Aaron Greene

All Hail Entropy!

Enzo Elacqua

Hopefully by then she will be a lady and will have better ground to stand on

Mecanimus

Have faith in meeeeee

Jonathan

The old vs new politics could even have an impetus to flare up again as the last city may attack again and she is still the progenitor of the locking spell. So right now it's in their best interests to kill her to free that up but if they make it to America and the last city attacks again in say 10 years then they'd have to bargain with Ariane for her help. Means she has to weigh the good of the world vs her distrust of the knights.

Jonathan

Great chapter, haha loved the ending!! I am a bit worried that now would be the time to kill off Jemina for biggest impact, though i think that kinda repeats the same revenge arc. IMO having the 4 survive and make it to America would be more interesting as that gets into New vs Old world politics. Could even have them start a rival Knights org in USA. At the same time if the Knights petition Constantine about the killings he can use Ariane's upstanding reputation and Anatole's disgrace against them just as Marlan did. If it is a legit argument then they can't quibble about Constantine's dismissal, and if Marlan was wrong to use that argument then he forswore his oaths and that would be justification to kill him.

Mecanimus

Yes she really went all out. It might cost them though...

Mecanimus

I messed up it's supposed to be two people

Mecanimus

Those pigs had been a long time coming.

Mecanimus

;)

Mecanimus

And according to oaths, Anatole should have been unable to kill her. There are oaths and then there is politics and half truths. I think it's reasonable for her not to trust them anymore.

Aapjuh

In a world with actual binding oaths, oracles and whatever else magic can cook up, it should be a simple thing to verify things, in a calm controlled manner. Evidently by the way Mannfred suggested an oath to Anetole, everyone else in the story conveniently forgets this. If such a thing didn't work why would Anetole reject such an oath. (or some excuse why it suddenly miraculously wont work) You'd think a faction based on justice and laws would be the primary practitioners of these methods and would be the first to think that way, or be the only ones in the world with refined methods of such tools.

Mai0e

Finaly her shape shifting ability will come in handy! And here I thought it would be only reserved for fun and games with Torren.

Andrew

Thank you!

Blackmoon11

"Umm squire Ariane we need you to......" "GLOOOOOOOORIOUS PURPOSE !!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHAH !!!! " queue the exploding pigs

evyatar

She should call them guns and roses, and the good part is that they are quite the “explosive” band

william wallace

Let CHAOS REIGN!!!!! 🔥🐷🔥🐷🔥🐷

Controcetica

Ahahaha, I loved it when Jimena deployed her Magna Arqa! Had the same energy as someone dropping a Bankai in Bleach. I love that type of power up mode! And it was her first time, too! I thought it was really cool and unexpected that Ariane was prepared to be calm and follow protocol while someone else went apeshit. It is really touching how much Jimena cares for Ariane! How fortunate, to have bonded with a vampire with such integrity and loyalty! That said, it is sad that the world keeps letting Jimena down.

BurnNote

Ariane: I'm going to make my own knights. With Guns and Expolsives!

BurnNote

"axe wielding swordsman"? Does he normally use a sword?

Mai0e

🐷🔥

Sky

Everything I hoped for, thank you. P.S. I vote best chapter end, it had me in stitches.

Sassy

Jimena's ascension to lady was amazing! An avenging angel of justice. Badass And there was even flying, burning pigs! This chapter is the best one in Journey, no doubt about it.

riseris

The knight order is now tied to their dumb oaths to execute the oath breakers and murderers, despite the fact that they were not in the wrong. Stupid rigid rules in my opinion. I kind of want next chapter to be from an outside perspective like say Viktoriya. I mean it’s not like Anatole or Marlan ever hid their distaste for Ariane. So I’d like to see an outsider the knight order can’t make an example of point out their hypocrisy. Though that might just be me wanting more revenge satisfaction out of this since Ariane is no longer in a position to witness such a scene.

Pierre Steiner

Definitely feels this way, and the best part about it is I can't guess what's going to happen next cause everything could happen : otherworlders rip a portal through space, Nirari saves the day, Nirari's mom saves the day, Ariane breaks through to Lady, Octave turns out good, what will it be? The suspens is killing me

Pierre Steiner

Well she does need a few setbacks now and then. Where is the fun if she enjoys a smooth ride through vampiredom and defeats the bad guys as the world acclaimed champion of earth

Generagitaux

Athena is the goddess of wisdom and war, so when our guys realize how broken the order is they start a fight. Maybe, but the wisdom in starting that fight is debatable

Jonas Engell

Nirari killed his mentor when they tried to kill him and Anatole blames Ariane/all devourers for it.

NFN Dave

Well, in this case the victim killed the witness, so considering everything else it's hard for them to trust that the system will act right for them.

Michael

I am a little lost on the connection of the title to the chapter, can anyone illuminate me?

SunderGoldmane

Ahhhh finally, burning pigs.

Svensonsen

Thx for the chapter and nice ascension. This really embodies Jimena. That said I'm not comfortable with the thought that the remaining knights would execute them without trial on the spot. I found that the higher ups, with some exceptions where quite reasonable. And I had the impression that Jimena is known for upholding the rules. So in my experience the ensuing chaos at the end doesn't make much sense to me.

Ulbert

This chapter: Perfection. And I wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that this is a repeating chapter. This was coming since the first time anatole entered the picture. This was a storyline paused for several times that now reaches its climax. Or at least I think it does. I mean. What could it be but a climax, if we have flying burning pigs?

Cormac

Just glorious. What was the original reason that Anatole tried to kill Ariane? Was it simply because he hates Devourers? It has been quite some time since I read it.

Xtriver

I love the chapter, just amazing. I’m sure you have a plan Mecanimus and it’s not for me to criticize, however the same pattern do seam to repeat itself quite often. Ariane gets smacked by someone who is not playing by the rules, she survives\retaliates then the crusade for her head begins.

Lino

Fate truly works in mysterious ways.

Bunny Waffles

I cannot express how much I love that the truest sign that things have gone as bad as they could is that flaming pigs becomes a possible SOLUTION instead of the ultimate bane.

MacDB

Yessss! That move should’ve gave her the lady ascension! That is completely in line with her essence!

Amelgar

Was that a... FLYING PIG?!?!

Lyndwyen

Very nice indeed. I also rly Like jimenas ascension to lady

evyatar

A chapter! What a time to be alive! XD if she goes on a rocket to the moon could she theoretically survive without oxygen right? She should charm her way to the moon when the first space rocket goes up


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