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The Calamitous Bob 228: Param, Burning.

🕑 Added 2025-01-18 16:33:07 +0000 UTC

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Roombot

That’s an interesting point wanderer, if Viv truly becomes a multi-species god would that make her more powerful than the mono-species gods?

Clifton

Wasn't Princess Rosea actuary Queen Rosea? I suspect that's an important distinction.

Jed Wolfgang

I’ve said this many times before. I absolutely love the way you end chapters. It’s an art form at this point.

Diego Rossi

There was that high level follower of Efenstar during the island battle. Maybe we will see his return.

Diego Rossi

I doubt that those that have already allied with Oleander will care. Taking members of the ruler families as hostages is a tradition of Mardador clergy, they did that with Sangor's son.

Diego Rossi

Maranor was a somewhat problematic person from the start. She was the killing gal when they defeated the older gods, and top down, rigid order and killing opponents are her main solutions. At the same time, there is a two-way feedback loop between goddess and followers and followers and goddess. Fefe has shed part of his portfolio and paid a price in power, Maranor, at least for now, is keeping it tight to her bosom, and trying to create an endless order. Something impossible to realize, change always wins, even if it needs to wait till the local sun goes nova.

Elaine

good chappie

Steven C

> [Pyroclastic flow.] Pfft, he's no Ilea

DM

Just plain excellent. Really a pleasure to read. Shame about Tallit…. Enjoyed seeing him take down an Elite and freak out Crest!

wanderer117

I'm sure we'll get some fun from Neriad's clergy confirming that the rules of war have been broken.

wanderer117

Nah, Maranor isn't a bad person, she's just going dark from all the negative cultural feedback loops. Give her some time isekaied away from her followers and she'll recover. Besides Viv doesn't need to eat an existing mantle of power, she's made her own place in the pantheon. Innovation, technology, multi racial / species polities + the magical fusion reactor thing in the heart of the old empire. She isn't going to be just another human god, she's going to be a multi species god.

wanderer117

I think of it like cultural effects -> gods gods effect -> champions champions effect -> culture Medieval / early renascence culture favors simple top down hierarchies. Rules are in charge because the gods want them in charge / rules change when they displease the gods. They don't (officially) derive power from the people.

D

Path influence is absolutely there, we read how viv was warned about it. I just dont think its that maranor was the one responsible for it. Its just that the mechanics work that way? Because there is a problem with what you say, deus. Maranor has no problem with harak, since it is order and stability. She herself made that clear. Its just that Nero is her champion, so his 'kingdom or maranor' is far closer to her ideal. Not to mention the fact that Haraks primary deity is neriad. ... well that and because her husband drove her to the point where she now plans to subdue all the other gods, even if that means to side with the banished 'dark gods'.

deus vault

no, I think it's the other way around. oleander was described as a pretty nice dude, before he let his path influence him. his path was related to meranor, so it's safe to say the she made him a tyrant.

Clifton

Although, that would be an epic finale.

Clifton

How very - Gomagog of you.

Jennifer Leigh

Is Oleander the reason Maranor is leaning so far into tyrannical order instead of something nicer? Was there something about the followers influencing the gods or am I thinking of a different series?

KnightRider007

Ah, of course. I was mentally running through Viv’s allies, and coming up blank.

Alex

The Water Elemental. Lady Azure I think her name was.

Dietz

Yes, because betraying the goddess of death over an agreement you already made is a brilliant idea.

KnightRider007

“I cannot allow a third elemental archmage to oppose me.” I’m having a mental blank, who’s the second?

KnightRider007

Yeah, that specific blatant violation of the rules of war really needs to be expanded on and brought to the attention of other nations. There was even a living witness.

Leviathon251

Kill and eat Maranor with the actual light gods and ascend to godhood.

Jennifer Leigh

Not for the disrespect. Honey is a reward. There are other terrible things that can be done. Remember Sahin's first week? He had a really bad time after his test/disrespect.

Senko

Shame about Talit though his death was confirmed last chapter. If the shield had held just a few minutes more. I do wonder how this will affect Oleanders reception with the rest of the continent. Both destroying a traditionally neutral establishment but also in effectively assassinating someone at the negotiation table. At the least it should discourage others from talking to him on the ground they may wind up with a knife in the neck.

Jiokuy

The gods are somewhat vulnerable to the perceptions of their worshippers. Further, Nero specifically embodies the aspect of Maranor that is Order at any cost. What his assassin did was dishonorable but it did not defy the ideal of Tyrrany that he embodies. Also 6th step Avatar of Maranor with easily half the world's population supporting his pyramid. That buys a lot of leeway to define what order and honor are. But yeah you're prolly right. It's being set up that Nero's closest allies and possibly his God will choose the other side over him. He's definitely alienating everything in the pursuit of order through unity.

Anonymous Person

The forbidden spell list was established a long time ago. It's explicitly for spells Viv has figured out that have the potential to a) create self-sustaining positive feedback loops and therefore could become apocalyptic if not carefully controlled, or b)tear the fabric of reality or the veil between life and death. It takes a lot of work from both Viv and a couple of the gods to contain and repair the damage afterwards. I think it's fair that all parties involved need to be cool with it before those are used. That assassin isn't even that big of a deal anyways, so the damage may not be worth it at that time under those circumstances. He's basically a psychotic mid-level dark blade that can come back after a suicide run, the Hadals are a much more significant assassination asset than that.

James Faulkner

That’ll just convert them to fanatics faster 😂

James Faulkner

All hail See Warcrime! Head of the Crimes Against Param Division. New departments are currently under development for other continents 😂

KnightRider007

The rules of war, even ambitious war, have quite specific things to say about envoys and ambassadors being harmed *or inflicting harm*. Notably, these are ingrained to the point where Tallit felt no need to take precautions, even though the envoy was an *Assassin*. Surely such an act should have cost him the divine favour of a goddess of war, especially since his aspect is *Order*?

Red Viking

Yes! Yes! Yes!

Daniel Dye

It’s almost like the rules of proper conduct, even in war, exist for a reason. Getting to watch Oleander discovering that his continuous acts of ‘being a backstabbing shithead’ have consequences is gonna be fun.

Grumpy Cucumber

Always worth the wait

TheBotler

Thank you for the chapter

tr13ze

Thanks for the chapter 😁

Emily Gurnavage

I bet he spikes the other chiefs drinks with the honey when they aint lookin later. For the disrespect they showed Viv.

fala

If it's the soul change spell it's something viv agreed to being limited since it's rather bad. The chapter implied that iraoh can kill the assassin for good, and viv has already showed she can prevent him from doing anything so likely nothing will happen

Pete Magnuson

I'm very curious to see where crest ends up, he seems so disillusioned to the cause but still follows orders. Will he flip sides soon, stab his boss in the back at a critical moment, or continue as a foil and competent underling until the end?

elijah pickett

We are good! This was fantastic 🫶

elijah pickett

I'm sorry that the headmaster died though. He was really annoying sometimes but ultimately a great person.😔

elijah pickett

This was an exceptionally good chapter!

Kazith

It’s likely that Sir Lak-Tak will not be a benevolent superior to serve under.

Jehru

Title made me think back to the Homeworld game. "Kharak is burning" with Agnus Dei playing as BGM.

lenkite

So Viv is being handicapped by the Gods now - she can't use her spells to kill undying enemies because she is forbidden to do so ? That is sheer nonsense. IMHO, she should develop another new spell in a secret space warded from divine attention - one which is "yet" to be on the forbidden list - and then use it without permission. At-least she will get one use of the same before some interfering busybody forbids it. This assassin is going to kill a lot more people on her side now because she was prevented from destroying him permanently. Pretty sure that Maranor would have no hangups in approving "forbidden" techniques for her side. This also seems a peculiar way to nerf casters against blademasters and assassins. Hey, if we could cast this spell, we can win against the martial enemies beating me to paste, but ALAS the good gods have FORBIDDEN the same, so we need to resign ourselves to have our heads chopped off and ours hearts stabbed.

Andrew

Thank you!

Mantarok1205

Jolly good!

Angela Roberts

Damn, I really liked Tallit. Lak-Tak is a maniac!

FuriousDee

The destruction of the academy should help wake up all of those who don’t believe the seriousness of this situation

Sergey Kadaner

There is magma armor and there is plot armor 😉

Chivatha

Welp, I can almost see the black water getting closer to the impeller blades. This is gonna be goood

Graham Golder

Good chapter; glad to see more of the non-humans. Hoping we get to see more of Efestar, and what has happened since we last saw his cult.

jarthur93

thank you for the chapter, saddened talit didn’t make it.

Full Derp

Pour one out for Tallit. He died as he lived--doing the right thing.

fennek

Thx

Unwillingmainer

Fucking sucks about Tallit, another elemental mage would be a awesome. But keeping all the students and facility out of his hands is a victory. More magic and allies on Viv's side is good. Wonder what Crest's punishment for failure will be? Or is he too valuable to punish harshly? Also, can't wait to see just what Ser Warcrime has dreamed up for this war.

T'Ericka

I’m sad for Tallit. Oddly glad there was a death I could stomach and that this death wasn’t Viv. Wars deserve hard deaths. Don’t kill Viv!

william wallace

Im honestly excited for the horrible warcrimes to come. This says horrible things about me. But I cant bring myself to care.

T'Ericka

The honesty is refreshing 🤣❤️

Craeth

Wonderful chapter, though it hurts to lose Dean Tallit.

Jennifer Leigh

She does realize that they'll all be into blue honey, right?

John Anastacio

Poor Tallit. Poor Ashra. I guess it was inevitable when Tallit decided to fight. On the other hand, Ban Senior lives! Huzzah! I was worried he'd died of old age during the time skip.

SDCard

Thanks for the chapter! RIP Tallit :(

WarStrider72

Thx!

Mecanimus

Sorry for the delay! It will happen again!


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