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The Calamitous Bob 231: The Slayer

🕑 Added 2025-02-07 17:11:14 +0000 UTC

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Eifer

Don't read the comment by Hiddenmaster, it's full of spoilers.

Dennis

Wow. Massive spoilers

HiddenMaster

ItWasIDIO!!

Damn I love an author who knows how to let go of characters even if they're fan favorites o7

Tiffany Miller

Such bullshit why haven't yhr other gods killed that evil bitch yet? Maranor is NOT a light god and every single one of her temples and priests needs to die. Taking out her priesthood should have been first move. Viv failed there

Tiffany Miller

Mistake every pure league city should have been burned period no racist should be left alive period these people are scum allowing them to live is evil

ManguKing

I mean... sounds like by there not being a war among the Gods, one God could wipe out all the others

KnightRider007

“The Enorian army is on the move. They will cross the Deadshield woods in a week, with Crest assisting them.” The Enorian army specifically and in particular? Or is that supposed to be “The Maranorian army”?

Angela Roberts

@MattCannon, I think so too especially bc of Octas.

Matt Cannon

Probably the same thing that happened to Octas when she lost on Sardanal's Cradel: her essence shattered and rendered all but powerless for at least decades. Maranor has more followers right now, though people might stop worshiping her over this. And most of her followers might die in this war.

Caitlin

Oh no :( why is this the one I ended on? I liked grumpy old man judgment, ah my heart!

Elaine

good chappie

James Faulkner

Also will likely unite more dragons behind Viv so they can use more fate magic collectively to swat Nero

Hussar L

It could be possible to force it with more damage to his soul, as Judgement said

Albedo's Ahoge

:(

James Faulkner

That scale better be what Viv needs for a dragon transformation. Nothing would be better than her killing Oleander as a giant black dragon with green eyes and death magic

FuriousDee

I think she was always order, power and war

Sæþór

Tftc!

Clarke

Yries started the shield in book 2.

Clarke

So this is an interesting thought. I just started a re-read because the audio book came out, and in book 1 Viv was told she couldn’t contact the gods as long as she had soul damage. If Oleander just cracked his soul, does this mean he can no longer reach out to Maranor? Does this impact her ability to support her champion?

Angela Roberts

Yes, I know but Maranor is completely invested in this world view. What happens when he fails and dies?

Jeanean

Its Nero's Soul that will crack from using Slayer.

Diego Rossi

"He had already bowed. Now, the power wouldn’t let him go, so he did the next best thing." It is possible that, at this point, Crest can't refuse Nero orders. He has accepted them too many times in the past, and Noro and Marador now have their claws in his soul.

Angela Roberts

Well damn. I hate that Judgement is gone but his wisdom and foresight will be the turning point for Nyil. I wonder if Maranor will go completely dark or if she'll actually crack and die?

Marc Schneider

I do believe the description of ascender mentioned you got to be a god at the end of it. And IIRC when Oleander was introduced and both he and Viv got a level, they said that whoever won would level again and immediately become a god, which means no more interfering in mortal affairs. Maybe I misunderstood, or maybe they can wait a bit before ascending into godhood, but the impression I got is that they wouldn't get to stay.

D

Vivian has a god slayer weapon too. Honestly, at this point she, should have just nuked the guy and called it a day.

Clifton

I don't believe Nous said anything about using causality - that was all interpreation by readers. He just gave us an emoji and told Viv to run.

Benjamin Mages

This is a reasonable assessment based on what we know of the gods, but also makes no sense. Nobody, not Nero, not Viv, not the gods, not anyone is treating this situation like "if Nero wins, he's going to just fuck off and we don't have to deal with him anymore." If he wins, he's not going anywhere and everything will be assimilated into his empire.

FuriousDee

Crest went out of his way to learn the name of everyone fourth step and above so they don't have to be the very best but yes they would all count as elites.

FuriousDee

Remember Dragon meet gets more magical as it ages so one meal from judgement might be enough. It was for the sandsong.

ThreeWater

it takes about 2 pounds of food per day per person and for an army matching likely more than that, but let’s use that, 50,000 people is about 100,000 pounds (50 tones US) per day. They could get meat for 1 meal from his corpse, more than that does not seem realistic. Seems like the delay to kill him cost more than it will gain as far as food goes.

Thomas Todd

Solfis needs to ascend to become an eldritch being of sure spite that watches over harrak

Thomas Todd

Fate wise it's possible this will count as a pointless victory and push the narrative of his hubris. This making the campaign one of vanity and empty victories which fail when it matters

Aram Ibrahim Camps

even if oleander loses I bet there's gonna be problems with the dragons, though they may be lessened by the fact that viv is a mothe of dragons

Mantarok1205

Jolly good!

Einhander

im betting lich bro will take one for the team, then will be shown in the epilogue hanging out with his waifu death goddess, who looks very pleased with herself. Since lich bro handles all the laws and what not, you could possibly say the inevitable pair is as easy as death and taxes.

bob semple

No he took it from Viv because she forgot to moisturize.

Angus Losier

I very much enjoyed the fact that for all Nero's power, Judgement was whooping him and his elites while not even breaking a sweat. Until Nero pulled out the cheat sword, it was clear it wasn't even close. Beating a tier 6 blademaster in single combat by surpassing him on technique? *chef's kiss*

RandomPerson

"He plucked a small scale from her chest. It reddened as it approached the object, then melted itself in between three half-submerged sigils." is that a typo or did he take a scale from Arthur?

BenjiVoid

I like the implication with the names that there a parallel story for Nero and this is a "Irao and lak tak and solfis and ..." Moment for them, all the important named characters.

InLucidReverie

"He plucked a small scale from her chest." His,surely

Clifton

Is Ban still with the army? His son leads the one hundred now, right?

Clifton

It would depend how early on this happened. If it was shortly after arriving on this world he would have the excuse if still thinking only humans mattered carried over from his own world. Clearly no one thought to tell him there were other sentient races. Instead of rethinking the situation over the years it seems he committed to the human supremacy. Either way, clearly he's not a great person.

AzureMaiden

“It is the fate I have decided for myself.” Interesting because it almost sounds like Judgment is manipulating the ‘story’ of the battle so that it doesn’t actually count as Oleander’s ‘win’ in the tapestry of Fate. Either because it was a Pyrrhic victory, or if Judgment ‘chose to lose’—in either case, if Oleander wielded fate magic he could bend the story back to suit him, but since he can’t manipulate fate, the story got flipped on its head, and he may have just painted himself into an even worse corner

AzureMaiden

Remember, too, that she started as the Goddess of War and nothing else—more akin to Ares than Athena, driven by an attribute that, without a higher purpose, embodies many horrors and few virtues. After her husband left, she changed to become the Goddess of Power—again, an attribute which, without some other purpose, enables many evils and precious few goods. Then, at some unknown point, she changed once again to value Order. Again, an attribute devoid of inherent purpose, and on its own the progenitor of many ills and few cures. She has always straddled the line between the Light gods and the Dark—not by necessity, but by choice. And thus did her followers

Nicholas Williams Chamarro

It would actually be kinda hilarious if ALL dragons ended up joining Vi

The Bandersnatch

Yeah seems like he was an arrogant asshole right from the get go. No wonder he ended up Maranor's champion (he's too self-righteous to have gone to a dark god)

Robert Rosenthal

I don’t think this was fate magic. I think Nero is just trying to heal his ego from fleeing desolation before. Mara or has been violent and stupid from the beginning and Nero has been consumed by ego and stupidity if he had a good intention he sacrificed it years ago

Senko

Remember she was given that title for cracking a world anchor when she was weaker than she is now.

Senko

I don't think he'd be going anywhere if he won. Viv is headed towards godhood but he seems more champion of the God. That is he'll always remain as a physical servant of Maranor ruling the empire of humanity in her name.

Senko

I believe it's the difference between the original Oleander who explored the world and united the Shadowlands vs the current one who's trapped as Maranors champion. The old one could have played this smarter but now he must be human order even when that is the worse choice because it's all Maranor can accept. Judgement destroyed Avistan and he fled from a fight that he might have seen as justice, now he must punish the beast for its crime to prove humanity superior.

Senko

Soo now we know and I can't help wondering how Vivs fate magic can use the fact "Justice fell at Nero's hand." Some dragons will move to aid her who would have stayed neutral now showing again Nero's all or nothing mindsets weakness.

Diego Rossi

I think that Bran will die. It seem the right time for him, having raised a new generation ready to replace him. Dying in glory and surrounded by his people seems the right end for him, even if we all wish for him to die of ripe old age instead.

Diego Rossi

Thanks for the chapter. Judgment death was a sad moment.

Diego Rossi

It seems evident that Oleander hated non-humans from the start. He thought nothinbg of stealing the children of a sentient race to raise them as slaves.

Diego Rossi

Yes, yries and golems should be included. Yiries are already on the shield. I don't recall if there is something for the golems, but don't think so. Until recently the weren't a "race".

Diego Rossi

Great point about Oleander name. Never thought of that.

Diego Rossi

Maranor probably is in a damaging loop with her followers. Followers belief affect gods, as a consequence gods tend to chose the same kind of people that has affected them. Positive feedback isn't a good way to control something.

Desert Yeti

You're thinking that regular people matter to Oleander. They don't. His army had two purposes, suppress the weak and show his dominance. And that's what he got by going after Judgement. Oleander showed he was superior and dominant. Oleander knows his massive army could be ripped apart by a few powerful individuals. He believed that the conflict is only between him and Viv. Everyone else is expendable or meaningless. Who cares about ants?

Diego Rossi

And he ended needing to get Maranor weapon to win. So, not his win. His Fate is to get a chance to win only if he borrow his god power. But borrowing his god power weaken him further. I doubt Fate will see it as a real win. Maranor is limited in how she can act. She can't dominate her Champion. She can guide him, but he should chose how he act. And he decided to get a "win" by defeating a old foe and "correctin" one of his old misdeed. Crest was against it and Maranor was against it (but she was asked only after Oleander had alredy committed). Oleander at this point isn't exactly stupid, but he is a religious fanatic, so he is unable to see some thing and interpreters other through a narrow viewpoint.

Jaws2015

Hail the Omnissiah!

Moatdog

I believe he’s trying to counter Viv’s fate magic. If he gets to her and has nothing bot loses by the law of the world he will lost to her at every turn. He NEEDED a win to establish himself as still a player and not a loser. Instead of trying to earn back the populace trust he decided to attack an old foe he lost too. Not only someone he ran from, an ally of Harraks princess, and a message to all dragons. Perfect for fate fuckery

SDCard

My bet is on Solfis, he's her true first ally, and dying to protect the future of Harak seems fitting - though I still hope no one dies, this story isn't really dark enough to require it

anonymous wildfire

Bets on Maruk, starts as Viv’s defender, ends as it too.

anonymous wildfire

It can’t be a guaranteed thing, but… nothing saying it can’t happen on its own through random chance? Or Fate magic hijinks?

anonymous wildfire

I assume it’s Fate related. Mostly because most things that don’t fully make sense are fate related. Nero definitely isn’t doing the best thing under the circumstances, even Maranor said so, but I’m sure there was *some* purpose she even allowed it to happen at all. Maybe something like “I beat Judgement, so I can beat you”?

Marc Schneider

The fact is that Oleander (and Maranor, to a lesser extent) comes off as a huge idiot. After all, his whole thing is to create an Empire uniting humanity, except that win or lose, Nero will go away right afterwards (either dead or a God forbidden from interfering). And without him, it's obvious his empire won't last more than a few days (Crest will leave, therefore destroying their logistics, while the other elites will fight each other to see who's top dog). Meanwhile, the dragons will be free to retaliate against humanity. Honestly, far from putting humanity on top, it's obvious that Oleander's idiocy can only end with it in a far worse position overall.

SDCard

Thanks for the chapter! So first the Dean, and now Judgement dying... if the mentors are dying it seems like either Solfis, Irao or Maruk will die as well, seems like it would be the obvious choice to create more stakes. Let's hope that's not the case, they deserve a happier ending

Marc Schneider

Judgment may be huge, but I don't think he's huge enough to feed a 50k army for weeks. Besides, even if it works, the loss of so many elites may be worse in terms of combat effectiveness than his army being half-starved. Second, there's a huge difference between killing off dragons one-by-one once he's won and has nothing else to do, and fighting them all at once, possibly along his current enemy's army. Third, even he got some fate "mojo" on his side by killing Judgment (doubtful imo, killing a dragon with an OP weapon doesn't imply anything about his army beating another), he still can't manipulate it so what's the point?

Nopret

There is one more dragon named Mother who is around his strength. Maranor indicates that only a few local dragons will join Viv, but I really hope this causes some big reaction. Underestimating consequences is sort of a theme with Maranor and her followers.

Dietz

Firstly, food for his army. Sucks, but we already know dragon meat is hugely nutritious, and Judgement is huge. Secondly, as he mentions, dragons were already on his to-do list, though almost certainly originally for post-unification. Nero's plan brought them, and by extension Judgement, forward on the list because.. Thirdly, he *needs* a win. Humans can't typically manipulate fate magic, but that's where he's getting beaten, so Nero seemingly jumped Judgement early to get more fate mojo. Othing like slaying a legendary ancient "monster" to boost your narrative relevancy. And of course, as Crest points out, its an excuse to "correct" something that Nero screwed up in the past.

a passing Fnord

Maranor is all about Order Through Might, and Viv is about order through Law, Justice, and Equality. I'd love to see Viv choose not to retaliate against the church of Maranor in an obvious and blatant way, just convince everyone in Param to increase taxes on the church of Maranor after the war ends. Prove that laws and bureaucracy are more powerful than strongman leadership. Show mercy publicly, but tax Maranor's mortal followers out of positions of power and influence.

fennek

Nah, solfis is going to ascend, becoming the machine god

Marc Schneider

What exactly is Oleander trying to accomplish here? He got a good chunk of his elites killed, thus weakening his army right before a major battle. He angered the most powerful race on Nyill, and there's a good chance they'll help his enemy now. He weakened himself by harming his own soul. And on the positive side, he got what? A slight boost to army morale maybe? Frankly, I think Oleander comes across as a bit too incompetent for someone who managed to unite a continent. It rather cheapens this final confrontation, even if Viv obviously needs to be smarter in order to compensate for the power difference.

James Faulkner

Man fuck Nero. Figures the dickhead would try to steal a dragon egg.

Leviathon251

Pov you are maranor - all your followers are awful, power hungry cretins - be more interested in the imagery of heroics than actually helping people - continually empower people who, Through their greed hurt everyone around them - somehow still think you're helping humanity - remain the leader of the light gods despite being a massive hypocrit. - profit Ps. Please don't obliterate little ol' me with your superior meta knowledge. This is a joke O-o

KnightRider007

Eran the Mousey Sila Blade The Hammer of Old Ash The Northbay sisters Azith the Swift Arrin the Hurricane Sur the Arena Champion Vil Vinetree That's a lot dead, *named and titled* Elites. If Crest knows them personally by name, these aren't faceless mooks, these are the core of the army, there simply cannot be that many of them. And they all followed Oleander into a futile and pointless fight. He lives up to his name as a pretty, but highly toxic, flower.

Orange Thistle

Does a sentient golem die if it's body is cut? Could see a marvel Groot (yes, I dislike the analogy as well) type of resurrection. That being said it depends on how the sword kills.

John Anastacio

Interesting and amusing that Judgment decided to do an Obi-Wan Kenobi.

KnightRider007

"Crest ought to be at the fore, opening portals to make them progress faster instead of here on a vainglorious errant" => errand "The second group of ballast shot through it" => ballistae or ballistas, depending on how accurate/pretentious you want Crest to appear

Robert

We've seen that interfering too much with the mortal world puts a strain in the gods, I wonder how big of a strain giving "the most powerful cheat weapon ever" to Oleander put on Maranor. Although I suppose she is already all in at this point. The sword always kills whatever it's swung at, implying that getting Oleander to swing it will result it someone dying. That being said, my money is on Solfis, he already has his children and him going down swinging in defense of Viv is exactly his style. Judgement said it would Crack his soul further, not that it would shatter it. I wonder if that means it would take a third time. My bet is the war getting pushed back to the old Harrakian capital and Viv having to absorb the "super soul energy reactor thing" to win, ramping her up the be slightly stronger than the other gods when she ascends.

Zat

And Crest even realizes it. He knows he should switch but can't do it, and calls himself a coward. (Also, hi Oskatat)

Michael

Did he forget Sir Warcrime, my favorite general? I second this motion.

DAK

It is infuriating, but it’s also like pouring good money after bad IS the Maranor path, and then magic hijinks come into play stopping you from leaving. Basically you are rewarded for leading or tolerated for following, but not both. By its nature, Maranor LLC will be lead by class enforced narcisists and their aura will suck everyone down with them wherever they go. Fortunately, this is not something that ever happens in our world.

Emily Gurnavage

Oleander was overconfident. Theres no way he expected to lose that many elites and he is surely upset about that loss of manpower. They spent a lot of time laying that trap and setting things up for the fight. Oleander thought they had it. Given the consequences of using the sword and how that conversation went, I don't believe he planned on needing to go that far either. He just really underestimated Judgement.

Oskatat

Well, there's a reason it's such a common fallacy. It plays on a lot of human instincts.

Desert Yeti

Judgement's wisdom makes me think that the dragons will actually unite under or with Viv since they've already worked with her once. At this point, I think Viv might get declared as an honorary dragon.

Desert Yeti

Solfis is going to face the Hopecrusher and teach him true despair.

DAK

Using a god-level tool to defend from a god-cheat sword would likely trigger a godly war... Yet Judgement doesn't even countenance that Nero/Maranor bringing the sword in to kill the greatest(?) dragon on Nyl might trigger similar all by itself. You really have to admire Dragon restraint. Ridiculous humans with their ridiculous humanish gods. So petty.

Quivo

I'm surprised but I'm not THAT surprised. I can totally imagine some steampunk bro thinking stealing a dragon egg for later dragon riding purposes is something he could get away with.

Adurna

That loophole intervention was already used once. Would have been hilarious though.

JLM

We now know what that city did to make Judgement mad, and who was mainly responsible for doing so. He going to break his soul into pieces before she breaks a sweat.

Grappleshot

Tactical golems are fun and fast and could kill mages.

Grappleshot

Didn't the dead magic god say he used up his causality for it?

Grappleshot

I think the chapter should be edited to include the tries in that sentence.

Nopret

They are clearly being set up as opposites

Nopret

He is also a Parallel to Prince Lacer. Too prideful to think lesser people could be his downfall.

Nopret

There is a mistake in the last chapter, Aristan is called Avistan there

Nopret

And the golems they do have Souls

Nopret

Solfis gave up his original body for his newest son. We don't jet know what his new form is, but I suspect it has something to do with the master core

tr13ze

Thanks for the chapter 😁

steamrick

Calling it here - Solfis will die forcing Nero to crack his soul in half.

Lijwent

If that's not enough to make the shield an artefact...

A

“You have hadals, kark, merls, dragons, and humans fighting for you, Viviane the traveler.” Did Judgement forget about the yries? Lak-Tak would be so offended.

Swinter

"He plucked a small scale from her chest. It reddened as it approached the object, then melted itself in between three half-submerged sigils." I believe this should be "He plucked a small scale from HIS chest." It makes no sense that he'd take it from Arthur or Viv.

BelligerentGnu

Goddamn. It's not often that the noble sacrifice feels sad and real to me. Also, Crest, you utter moron, have you no notion of the sunk cost fallacy? Just *leave*.

TheBotler

Judgment was awesome and will be missed, what a badass.

Brieuc Sauzeat

A certain title of Viv may play a role once again, it would be funny to see the godess reaction when her sword break

Ekko

It's Poetic, Maranor's champion is known for those he killed while Vivian is known for those she protects

Tofol

Oleander not only is THE cause for aristan's massacre since he seemed to have a shining reputation( when he is till wasn't the zealot king) so he never publicly( and probably neither in private) acknowledged his fault. He is also past the point of zealotry by now he IS the cause, a cuerios parallel to the previos mad warlord of the shadowed isles.

FuriousDee

I half expect Mother to show up to attack him when he is weakest so he can't later threaten her children.

TheBotler

Typo, should be "fight" instead of "flight", thank you for the chapter and the hard work! "Are you going to stand and flight properly, this time, o judge?"

Arnon Parenti

Like every other action from Oleander it will have the exact opposite effect, he is a perfect nihilist and absolute narcissist, he wanted to unite the shaded lands and he made them into the shadow lands, he wanted to drive the elementals away and he just united the most selfish bunch of immortals to oppose him. He thinks killing a dragon scares other dragons from fighting him, instead they are too scared to let him live.

Daniel

I nearly cried.

Jackjargon

Probably a French habit, chest (poitrine) is female in French, so it would have been "sa poitrine" .(I'm guessing you're right, and it should have been *his* chest here)

Keifru

Wow, every new thing we learn about Oleander feels like its designed to hate him more. Killed dragon babies -> fled retribution -> Blames dragons for his city being destroyed Like, *many* creatures are protective of their young. What a xenophobic fuckwit. Here's to hoping Judgement's fate-ghost gets to have a pithy 'I-told-you-so' one-liner when he bites the dust

FuriousDee

I like the contrast between the slayer which seems to have a connection to everything killed with it and Viv's shield which has a connection to everyone she defends.

Simon Hoerder

RIP Judgement.

fala

He's apparently from a steampunk world with airships so he knows some of the dangers, just not to the level viv will probably pull

Andrew

Thank you!

FuriousDee

Oleander really is the absolute worst

nicoraven

“I went forward in time, to view alternate futures. To see all the possible outcomes of the-” oops, wrong story

Unwillingmainer

Damn, and I liked Judgement. Are all the old powerful mentor characters going to die by the end of this? How many are even left? Oleander is such an idiot. Even if killing Judgement removes most of the dragons from the upcoming fight, how many elites did he just lose? Is he really that confident in taking Viv, her army, and all her allies along? Or course he is, because he doesn't have much of anything left of himself. And now he's cracking his own soul. Fuck, what a dumbass, while Viv is out here planning for economic domination of the continent.

CherMi

Is that shield fated to block Slayer now?

Red Viking

Fucking. YES. But, also, noooo~

Grumpy Cucumber

I thought it was from Arthur's

Arnon Parenti

I don't think Nero understands what uniting the dragons under someone who understands aerial warfare is going to do to his war efforts.

Julian

"He plucked a small scale from HER chest." Should it perhaps be HIS chest?

Arnon Parenti

Noooooooo I loved Judgement, he was my hero. Oleander must pay for this, his dreams crushed to dust, his vision of humanity crumbled.

Isiah Debarros

So he's the jackass that God that city burned

WarStrider72

Thanks for the chapter boss!


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