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Changeling Part 77: Nestra is an Adult

🕑 Added 2025-02-18 14:48:23 +0000 UTC

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Len

Ah that makes sense. I guess it’s just a delay since a lot was happening for the author this week.

AzureMaiden

I think so; not sure if anyone in the Discord server has more info, but I saw the RR chapter went up several hours ago, and Patreon usually updates around the same time. Hope everything is alright with the author

Len

Did I miss something or is a the new chapter later than usual ?

Clifton

She took it 'as a trophy' since Camille was there. The assumption being she ate it off page when no one was around to watch.

AzureMaiden

Daaaaamn, I checked and it’s even worse than that—he campaigned on openly cooperating with them 😬😬😬😬

AzureMaiden

Wait what???? Damn; now I’ve gotta go digging back to see that

Sam I Am

I think she’s only getting assigned portals by the army, so hopefully that won’t be a problem.

Termac

What's more, the "but in case a team wasn’t assigned, then the previous team to clear that portal was still responsible for keeping an eye it" might be (maliciously) interpreted to apply to Crescent, for those portals which were most recently raided by her. Even though she's prevented from raiding within the city.

Termac

Yeah, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. Remember, Hunnigan's campaign was funded by the same "fundamentalist" faction that that tried to take Crescent's blood by force. I suspect they're either trying to fuck things up for Threshold in general, in revenge for the two deaths by CIWS, or somehow trying to get to Crescent, specifically. In which case, it's *definitely* only a matter of time before Crescent is unmasked as Nestra, since that Chekhov's gun was loaded and cocked in this chapter.

Termac

IIRC, she's limited to a certain number of affinities/fake cores that slowly increases as she gets stronger.

Caitlin

Did I miss her eating Manh's core? Was it confiscated? Was it electric or shadow so it doesn't show up as an extra fake core for her true form? Or did she put it in her pocket space and sneaky Sashimi ate it? Is she saving it for when she hits a certain level because it's a b level core? Or to make something for Camille? So curious!

WannaBeATree

I am always pleasantly surprised by the mentions of rationality/fallacies and the chapter length. The first, because I like watching/reading about characters doing the best action they can think of. The seconds, because I keep thinking the chapter is almost over (because I got used to chapter length of other stories), but then realise there is still half left. :) Thank you for writing the story! I hope you enjoy doing it at least as much as I love reading it. :)

Andrew K

So far, Hunnigan seems like an excellent portrayal of a pretty typical politician who thinks appearances are everything, truth is what he says it is, and serious consequences can't apply to him. He just happens to be in a situation where personal consequences to him are all but certain if he screws up, and the mayor seems to have let him have plenty of rope with which to hang himself. Real question is how much more he thinks he can get away with. . .if I were in certain characters' shoes right now, I'd be keeping an extra close eye out for an assassination attempt on the mayor and some high-ranking cabinet members pretty soon (likely by someone pretending to be a known masked gleam).

DeadicatedReader

Three police gleans in white suits -> gleams I did what I could be the establishment fought me off’ -> what I could but the tftc, very interesting as always!

Leviathon251

Baselines kinda have it shit ngl but Hunningan is relying waaaay to much on civility politics. Especially in a place that seems so close to perpetual collapse. It feels too disruptive to be a genuine attempt to change anything and more like a purposeful destabilising of thresholds defence.

Sam I Am

Since the Little People have cleared so many unwanted portals, are they now on the hook for clearing them from now on? They were the last to clear them. I’m thinking the Little People (and all of the other small guilds) should immediately disband and form new guilds, thereby removing any prior obligations.

Dietz

Yeah, log me on team "Hunnigan's working for foreign powers." This nonsense policy push doesn't work without a bigger stick than the guilds, which he can't possibly have unless one of the A's flipped. But it could work as a disruption/distraction for someone else even if it fails.

AntiClimax she her

The fact that masks are being targeted makes me think this is related to the Texans too.

AntiClimax she her

Yeah... This feels like the edge of devolving into full on cyberxianxiapunk. Before, as imperfect as it was, the threshold government made it possible for baselines to have fulfilling lives, and for smaller guilds to exist and compete with the larger ones. What will they have if this gambit is successful (or fails in favor of the corps)? A big multi-national enclave?

Dietz

@kota When Nestra mentions the car destruction bit, she doesn't mean it'll be problematic for gleams to *pay,* but that forcing gleams to pay will make them hesitant in the wrong situations, which could cost lives. Meanwhile, the problem with the undiscovered portals thing as not doing the work, but a presumption of power. Guilds are not police, nor firefighters. They seem more like pest control agencies, with contractual services, and assigning them responsibility for area's they don't control is nonsense.

AntiClimax she her

It will hurt the corpo guilds, but who would be hurt more, where will the power be after everything? Smaller guilds will be gone. Faith in the base-line led government will be gone. They'll be back to might-makes-right governance, and who has the might? The corpo guilds. And foreign interest. Well, and Shinran and Ragnarok, but we don't know if foreign A ranks will get involved, and we already know that there's something between Threshold's A ranks. Any way this goes, it's not going to be good for base-lines or the small players. But it could be very good for the big corps (how many are multi-national?) whose power is currently being limited by the base-line government and the smaller guilds.

Kota

The thing is, some of it makes sense on the surface. Raiders are, in comparison, among the wealthiest citizens of Threshold. If you compare them to the average citizen, they earn fantastically well, and they should, in theory, be able to absorb the extra burden more than almost anyone, including the taxpayer. When Nestra says it'd suck for a raider to miss a shot at a monster and suddenly owe damages for a wrecked car, she seems to forget how much it sucks for the owner of that car to be stuck with the bill. On average, they would be able to afford it much less than the average raider, and someone always has to foot the bill. Same thing with undetected breaches and the damages they cause - sure, it sucks for a guild to be liable for the damages if they couldn't have detected or prevented the breach, but it would probably suck more for all the people who actually suffered the damages and possibly had their livelihoods destroyed, to be stuck with a hearty "tough luck". The guilds should be well compensated for the risks they're saddled with here by access to supremely lucrative portals. (Operative word "should" - that small, barely profitable guilds are forgotten here is indeed one of the sticking points. The other being, of course, the sheer impossibility of actually pushing through these changes.) On the flipside, if there's no safety net for portal or raider damages, that'll put a real crimp into Threshold's economy, particularly the small and mid-sized businesses. If you constantly operate under the risk of a random portal opening up and wrecking your shop/destroying all your inventory/killing half your staff, starting a new business is quite the gamble. Because if that ever happens and you have no way to recover the damages, your business is almost certainly going bust. Yet again, the big corporations will be able to absorb these losses, but no one else. Either way, Threshold's no good place to be one of the little guys.

Daemion

This is hurting the larger guilds, too. The difference is that they could weather this for a while but not a single one would be happy about it. It would also slow down the progress for getting stronger raiders. In the end, the guilds are too important for the city to be sidelined like this. Sure, technically the city has their own gleams but those also depend on the materials extracted from portals. Trying to fuck over corpo guilds is really stupid though. That's like pissing off the Fortune 500. They make all the stuff in the city... and the city itself. If you raise their taxes, they will simply raise their prices. "Oh sorry, we have to revise our calculations. The new office for the Interior is going to cost 33% more. But feel free to look for another contractor if you think you can find one." All the guilds are a syndicate. Which means they could easily agree to raise all their prices across the board in response, with exceptions made for guild members.

AzureMaiden

“This was going to hurt the corpo guilds’ bottom lines but smaller guilds would be bled dry. And they didn’t have the funds to recover from a mistake.” 10 bucks says that this consequence is very intentional and Gidung is making another power grab Also, looking forward to seeing how dear Nestra will solve the problem of need both personalities in the same room at the same time

Einhander

If the goal is to sideline the guilds from the city so that foreign interests can get a foothold, it does a wonderful job.

AntiClimax she her

I kinda think the chaos is the point. Chaos makes people easier to manipulate. It looks on the outside that it shouldn't work, but notice that it actually benefits the larger corporate guilds in the long run because it consolidates their power, forces the smaller guilds to lose their portals (resources), and disband, either joining the corporate guilds, leaving, or becoming outlaws. So they'll probably have lots of people complying because they are afraid and feel they have no choice, or because they think they will benefit from it. It probably won't work in world because Shinran, Ragnarok, and the 1st gens heading smaller guilds (like the palladians), but it's not as stupid as it looks.

Marine Psychologist

Nah, she’s an impulsive adult but still an adult. Her inner monologue doesn’t reflect much of it, but if you look at most interactions she has with people when complicated questions arise, she clearly has a mature enough approach to complex human problems to count as adult. She just doesn’t always use it. Hopefully this summit will be a time that she engages some of her rare humility which we actually do se every now and then when sufficiently called for

Nait02

Curse my past accomplishments!

Daemion

That Hunnigan guy apparently hasn't consider the consequences of his policies. Let's assume no changes, it'll destroy small guilds over time and force larger guilds to play it defensively. That will result in a direct hit to the economy because raiders who scour their territority in the city to look for portals or who are busy guarding theirs... aren't going on raids. Which means fewer materials on the market, less profit for everyone involved and, eventually, cut backs throughout the industry. Not that the guilds will be motivated to raid more if they lose a full third in taxes anyway. It's also a bad idea to make life hard for small guilds. Those raiders will either band together or join the large guilds. Either way, power will be consolidated. If Hunnigan really was after limiting the power of the guilds, then that's the wrong approach. The entire city only exists because of the first gen gleams. They are all that stands between prosperity and destruction. The normal people get to enjoy their life because the gleams want the normality... but everything happens only because they allow it. If all the A and B ranks collectively tell the government to fuck off, then that's that. Laws only work if you can enforce them... and here the government doesn't have the monopoly on violence. Not unless the gleams within that government play along. The masked gleam initiative seems like populism to me. How many even are there? Two dozen? And aren't all technically working for the military in one way or another? So Hunnigan made them into bogeymen and made shit up about a lack of accountability, just so he had an easy target to take down? What a dick. Shouldn't the people in the city know how the system work and quickly realize that Hunnigan is about to fuck up catastrophically? Where does such an idiot find enough lackeys to help him? The civil servant in the beige suit seemed to be almost gleefully happy behind her facade, just because she got to tell Nestra the news. The cops knew what was going on. If the raiders won't do it, someone else has to clear the portals. Does the city even have enough gleams for all that? And to enforce their new laws? I very much doubt it. This will be such a wonderful trainwreck. Let's hope that Nestra doesn't get unmasked too soon though, that would really screw things up.

ItWasIDIO!!

Hahaha "You need an Adult" "I am an Adult?"

TheBotler

The issue is grammatically the sentence is correct but contextually it is wrong. It should be something along the lines of "You take a spear through the eye, and no armor can save your life." Or "A spear through the eye, and no amount of armor can save your life."

Fabio Oertle

I think the issue is that no armor doesn't mean you don't wear armor. It means no armor in existence can save your life even if you had it on

TheBotler

Thank you for this, cleared up my misunderstanding, the sentence has no pause in it which is implying getting speared with no armor won't kill you rather than saying no armor will save you from getting a spear through the eye.

TheBotler

There needs to be something to denote a pause

TheBotler

Ahh unless there is supposed to be a pause between eye and no armor

TheBotler

“I am talking about suggesting and then fighting in a duel with a lizardman! You did very well, of course, but I understand he was C-class. Nestra, this is very dangerous. A spear through the eye and no armor can save your life. We agreed that you would be very careful. This isn’t my idea of safety. There is a fine line between challenging yourself and taking unnecessary risks, and I feel that you have crossed it.” Based off this paragraph getting a spear through the eye with no armor will save your life. Contextually that is what it is saying. It doesn't say anything about having armor.

Clifton

No armour can end your life? Armour is supposed to save it, surely?

Bunny Waffles

Would it make more sense to you if the sentence was structure more like "No armor could save your life if you got a spear through the eye"? The original line made grammatical sense though and flowed better already.

Jonas Engell

It says that your eyes are not protected by armor, so no armor can save your life if your eye is hit with a spear.

TheBotler

I'm still not getting it to be honest, it literally says "a spear through the eye and no armor can save your life" implying getting speared in the eye won't kill you but save you. Especially since it ends in a period. Unless he's being sarcastic.

Kennyevilmonkey

First thing that came to mind when I read the title- "I took it and threw it on the ground! I don't need your handouts! I'm an adult!"🎶

Tsorov

That save is the right one. A spear through the eye would end her life, but the save is meant for the armor. Meaning armor can't protect her from a spear through the eye

Unwillingmainer

Let's be reasonable here, Nestra is not an adult, she is a large child with sword and food problems. The fact she has to masquerade as a functional adult is just cruelty. At least the meeting should be catered. As for the local politics fucking things up, I think someone is about to learn just who actually has to power in Threshold. And all other power is just because they give some out. If Shinran and Ragnarok wanted, they could be dictators by the end of business. But they don't, they want civilization. But go against what they want at your own risk.

Aaron V.

Oh wait I have responsibility.

WarStrider72

Thanks for the chapter boss

TheBotler

A spear through the eye and no armor can save your life. There needs to be a pause between "a spear through the eye" "and no armor can save your life" as the way it's written here implies that getting speared in the eye with no armor will save her life. So if she fought someone with no armor and took a spear through the eye it wouldn't kill her. It could also just be my mind wasn't registering the pause, saying it out loud it makes a bit more sense but the sentence should be a bit more broken up with pauses to imply more that no armor can save her from a spear through the eye. “I’m sorry honey. That was unfair of me. I don’t mean that you would lie, only that you wouldn’t see danger untol it’s too late… Untol->until See I did what I could be the establishment fought me off’, or was he just stupid?  Be->but Thank you for the chapter!

Mecanimus

Btw the previous chapter has been updated to include Nestra mentioning Argent Ephis to Sereth. I also fixed a lot of mistakes.

Joshua

All I saw was the title and I am already in doubt. Thanks for the chapter!


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