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Changeling Part 81: Getting out

🕑 Added 2025-03-26 16:09:42 +0000 UTC

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Antony Claughton

A bit odd that her brother was left out wasn’t it?

Kota

As for the reaction of Nestra's parents and the reasons for their silence, you have a very kind read of them. Personally, I'm not sure them not even considering she might be insecure about whether they love her is the only explanation. My first guess was that they don't have the strength and emotional capacity right now to give love and support to their daughter, even when they have to realise she desperately needs it. They're both imperfect human beings who just went through a very traumatic reveal, after all. On an emotional level, it'll be very hard to disconnect Nestra from that trauma and not see her differently, even if intellectually, they ought to know nothing of this is Nestra's fault. Fighting through that gut reaction takes a sort of strength I'm not sure they have, at least not now. Reading between the lines, I assumed Claire talked to Nestra's mom about this topic and (carefully) suggested that she should talk to Nestra, but she refused ("It’s a difficult time for her, Nes. I’m working on it.").

Kota

Not sure I'd call Nestra's very reasonable fears paranoia: A) Mazingwe was determined to betray her - his patient! - to Shinran, and if I recall correctly, not because of anything she did or didn't do, but simply because of what she is. He had to know full well this would end her life at least the way she knew it, with imprisonment and experimentation as the best she could hope for. That Mazingwe, the beacon of virtue and medical ethics, who also deeply cared for Nestra, was still willing to betray his patient and violate his oaths, speaks only to the deeply-ingrained ruthlessness these gleams have grown accustomed to treating "monsters" with. They tend to suppress all notions of compassion or principles when dealing with "monsters", and have trained themselves to see humanity's survival as the utmost priority, bar none. B) That Shinran would end up being cordial is not something Mazingwe could have known or predicted, given Shinran's reputation for vicious ruthlessness when it comes to protecting the city's interests. At least my read of the guy is that he tolerates and tries to work with the Azshii not because he wants to and realises it's a smart idea, but because he has to. Sereth has made it clear that Shinran's only other choice is death, so in his mind, he's only trying to make the best of a terrible situation by attempting to bind Nestra to humanity the best he can. C) Claire's reaction doesn't help much either. For one, she's always been the rebel, anti-authoritarian outcast, so she'd have less trouble accepting a position others would think insane. For the other, even her first instinct was to kill - as in, such a "monster" can't be a person I've grown to love and care for. It's somewhat telling that her first idea, without question, is a shapeshifter replacing "her" Nestra, because the idea that she could have grown close to a "monster" is completely unthinkable to her. She has to work to overcome that prejudice, and that she manages to do so speaks highly of her. It's just not something you can reasonably expect from most first-gen gleams. In the end, Nestra's (and Sereth's) fears seemed very reasonable and justified, I'd say.

AgentFransis

Oh dear. I feel like B-Class and leaving for the covens is rapidly approaching. Her progress seems close to the peak of C-class and she wrapped up the major remaining social issue. This mission to the lizard world would probably be her big bang before exiting the stage.

Foxfire

It doesn't seem inconsistent with their previous characterization that when faced with dual revelations of: A) Nestra-terestrial B) Debbie was raped (B) is the big emotionally heavy one for Nestra's parents because disowning their kid isn't something that even crosses their minds and they don't realize how insecure she is about whether they love her. Nestra kind of seems like she has first gen gleam paranoia paranoia: - Mazingwe wouldn't keep her entirely secret, but did try to protect her when Sereth showed up. Nothing about how he treats her is really different pre and post reveal - Shinran is cordial and actively trying to cultivate her as an asset to the city - Claire is immediately violent, but in a "a monster has possibly killed and replaced my niece" way. As soon as she's convinced Nestra is actually Nestra, she's totally fine with it And the military leadership dealing with the border world has non-"kill them all" diplomatic relationships with lizardman tribes, even though (some) lizards were the ones they were mainly fighting against

Sam I Am

Keep in mind the fact that Nestra’s mother was raised in a Christian household. She defied their wishes and was disowned/outcast, and now she realizes that she gave birth to someone who looks like a demon. That has to be messing with her. You never really completely get over those things that were used to scare you when you were young.

WannaBeATree

It could potentially be spun as a good choice for PR purposes in terms of alien-human relationship, if this works out.

WannaBeATree

Yep, moving is such a pain. And the constant need to watch out for teleporting furniture.

WannaBeATree

There is a famous social psychology experiment called the "Milgram experiment". In short, it shows what people are willing to do under the pressure of an authority figure. A few people even ended up "killing" another random person ( death faked by the non-random actor), because they have been told to do it. An interesting part of the experiment is that after it concluded the researcher apparently received letter of thanks from some participants, because those participants managed to learn something about themself. Most, if not all participants, didn't actually WANT to cause pain/fake-kill the actor, but the experiment was designed to appear to not give them a choice or time to think. But they DID think after the fact and will likely be more resistant to such a scenario when they do things against their will, because they've learned from their mistakes. Nestra's parents might have had a huge learning experince during her first come-back with lots of regrets that they learned from. I think they'll decide fairly soon and it won't be the passivity that they showed earlier in her life.

WannaBeATree

“I’m your perfect genetic match. Just. In human form…” That was something I was still curious about. From what I understand, people's . . . reaction . . . to finding out a child is not theirs stems from the gene-controlled emotions that the child doesn't have their genes. In this case it is a really interesting situation, since the human genes ARE theirs, but they did not participate in its creation in the way they thought. Sadly, just because people can understand something and why it works as it does and that their genes would be perfectly fine with that, they can't change their emotions. Its like: A -> B -> C where A = child is yours B = child has your genes C = love/care for child In this extraordinary example, the child is not "theirs" but the genes are. The way evolution works, it throws an error upon encountering this never before seen situation and defaults to: - since A is not true (not your child), no reason to do C (no reason to love). Genetically speaking, as long as B is true, C follows, but since people don't have the inborn ability to check genes, their genetic reactions (behaviours wired into brain) were build on looking at A (child mine?) instead. Humans ability to know about genes could be vital in forming a partnership. Sperm donors are a thing, having a grey alien make a child could be seen as an extention of that to give their child/genes the "best" start in life. I could see non gleams go for it, depending on the propaganda. Especialy because Helena exists. I am very curious what will happen in the story.

WannaBeATree

Didn't expect the coming out to happen so soon. I kinda expected to eat away at her for the next 10 chapters or so. Very decicive of her, respect. And prior planing was nice to see.

StarWolf

Wow don’t ask Nestra to explain anything of a personal nature! That was painful lol.

Pedro Henrique

From Nestra's side her whole life and purpose crumbled and she felt a need to make something of herself. From her family side her parents had to live with the fact that Nestra would be the only one of them to age and die, forever destined to be an infinitely more fragile lifeform than them whom they must treat as if she is made of glass.

Clifton

There was also the survival angle. Claire might be able to delay two B ranks, but three?

Leviathon251

I feel that Ulyssis is going to be a capital P Problem.

JHD

Thanks for the chapter. I do like that you made Nestra's parents feel like real people, this is heavy news for them and they need to process it before they can accept Nestra.

AntiClimax she her

I wondered that too, since it wasn't made explicit, but my guess would be that she does not have a positive relationship with him, and more importantly, it was important to her to tell her parents, not him. Ulysses's only role in her decision seemed to be his suspicion/regarding her as a parasite exacerbated her feelings of guilt. I certainly wouldn't have prioritized him. Once the situation with her parents is squared, she can consider him, if her parents don't leak it first.

Oblique

This was a good one, thanks for the chapter.

Oblique

Letting them know hurts in the short term, but probably avoids a much worse unveiling later. From my perspective ignoring issues to avoid pain in the short term is selfish. Also, the mother has had a lot of bad things dropped on her due to Nestra's alien progenitor. Miscarriages buried in their garden. I don't know if she has memories of a passionate night with a husband that the husband does not remember, if she had to doubt her sanity at times. This at least is an explanation. And an explanation that it's not genetic that she was coreless. And it stops the sister and the aunt from also having to keep this secret. This weight of dishonesty isn't resting on Nestra's shoulders alone. Ok, I think some part of this at least is a personal perspective thing. I would much prefer someone tell me a horrible truth to my face if it concerned me instead of hiding it for my supposed own good. White lies I understand as needed sometimes. But I can think of situations were a truth concerning others could be better left untold. But for me it's extremely black and white situations, like finding out your dead grandfather very successfuly hid an affair from a loving and still living grandmother. Perhaps that is best left alone. If Nestra kept her secret she would be lying to her parents continually and constantly. She has not shown great skill at deception... From a purely practical standpoint that house of cards would topple eventually. One look at the wrong sword move from Crescent. One slip of the tongue from someone in the know. One question on Nestra's whereabouts at the wrong time.

M. Lampi

perception of their bodies as an achor to remodel flesh ==> perception of their bodies as an anchor to remodel flesh black panes progressively emerged from Nestra’ torso. ==> black panes progressively emerged from Nestra’s torso.

Kota

Like others have said, I think it's a bit more complicated than one side ditching the other. A lot of wrongs and hurt feelings for all parties involved.

Kota

I'm really curious how Ulysses will react once he finds out. Can anyone remind me if there was a specific reason he wasn't here for the big reveal, besides him being an ass and Nestra not wanting him there?

Julkur

She just got adopted by her human father. It's "only" hard for the mother

Pedro Henrique

Its an emotional reason, not a logical one, but no less valid for it.

Kazith

They didn’t ditch her, she ditched them and wouldn’t reach out due to her own insecurities and unwillingness to be in gleam society.

Kazith

Tyftc!

Pedro Henrique

Not really what happened, Nestra not being a gleam had a lot of implications and it cut both ways, but her parents still loved her.

Briar Rosier

Nestra was the one to leave. They have said and nestra has noted that they were willing to have her in the house, even if they were disappointed.

Zat

I think that this doesn't have an objectively right answer. Some people would rather not know, others would find it a profound betrayal to have it kept from them. It's hard to say which camp her parents fall in. Is it truly Nestra's right to keep the truth from her parents when they would want to know? Wouldn't that be the selfish thing? Also it's not like her secret is all that secret in general. How long before they found out some other way, and how much worse would that be? This only has the high potential of destroying their relationship where as the alternative almost certainly would.

Mistralie

They'll have to get in line and wait a long time then. IIRC, Nestra also said she wanted to kill her bio dad when Sereth told her about him, and he implied said sperm donor was really old and something like 2 ranks above A. He's also an Azhii, so baseline stronger than humans. I think Sereth estimated it would take thousands of years for Nestra to get strong enough, so unless we get a serious time skip, I don't think killing that guy is on the table.

Mistralie

I think the main point is that Nestra's going to disappear at least for a while when she reaches B rank. It's better that her parents know why rather than be left blindsided. Also, Nestra just wanted to tell them the truth.

Adspartan

It's not like she has already started laying the ground work for when her secret is out, which seems to be a matter of when, not if at this point. How do you think her parents would take it if they discovered it in the news ? And if for some reason she get stuck on the lizard planet for a while they won't have to wonder where their daughter went.

DAK

I suppose it's not objectively answerable, but I would say that in addition to possibly being selfish, it was very human.

Orange Thistle

Thanks for the chapter :)

StSteve

Remember that Nessie's parents were willing to totally ditch her when she turned up non-gleam. I think compassion is not exactly their strong suit. This may not resolve with hugs and birthday cake.

RonGAR

Sorry, but I am still of the belief that Nestra's need to come clean/out was a selfish one. One that only makes her feel better. B/c what's the point of telling anyone anything? Not one of them 'needed' to know, with the only exception being Helena, Magzinwe, and Valerian, due to 'medical' reasons, and probably her Aunt, due to a situation of emergency/survival. Other than that, no one else needed to be looped in. If they figured it out, great.... that's on them, other than that, telling them was only selfish and self-serving.

Enif

This is exciting. I'm interested to see how the next phase of Nestra's story unfolds.

Enkelados

"She had purchased a VR set, tried it for ten minutes, liked it, and then left it in a corner anyway." I feel personally attacked

boom

I'll admit I turn into the spongebob caveman meme "where chapter". But the wait is worth it, so take your time!

TheBotler

No worries, looking forward to what you can get done and can't wait to see your next work when bob ends.

TheBotler

Awesome that she told her parents. Will be rough but I hope they reach out to one another again to talk about it.

Craeth

Parts of this hurt to read, but as someone who was adooted by his stepdad: it might not end too badly. We'll see. It'll definitely be super weird for a long while, and the elder Palladians are almost certainly going to want to kill Nestra's sperm donor.

DM

Getting to read about Nestra always makes my day a good one!

Quex

Thanks for the chapter. It's so hard to hear but glad she told her parents. I hope Nestra learns one day that biology isn't the only valid criteria for parenting and they get that connection.

InLucidReverie

I like the vibe that aszhii nestra straight up has adhd by human standards

Adurna

I will say this was an amazing chapter. I think her parents focusing on themselves rather than our favorite glutton makes perfect sense.

plancking

the rare combo typo

plancking

viv spotted “Panic clawed at Viv’s hest with icy talons”

Unwillingmainer

Hey, no worries about being late. Shit happens and we can't expect you to be a perfect machine. That said, that was good stuff. Somehow made a reaction worse than attempted murder, well done. Running away and not contacting is much less dangerous and infinitely more emotionally devastating. And while I don't know what terrible plan she has come up with this time it, but nothing is going to solve anything if this family can't talk about it together.

Jojo

"Panic clawed at Viv’s hest with icy talons. Her heart drummed so hard she thought it might break through her ribs." Accidental Viv Nestra switch here.

WarStrider72

No worries. Bob is ending so you're kinda stressed from making a fulfilling ending. Take a nice long break before figuring out the next novel. My vote is for space fantasy.

WarStrider72

Thanks for the chapter boss!

Mecanimus

I'm struggling a little with writing rn. Hene the delay.

WarStrider72

Chapter is out


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