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Headaches Draft/Outline 1

🕑 Added 2019-09-16 22:19:44 +0000 UTC

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Lopoddity

Gotcha. This is just the first draft, I plan on fluffing up the story as needed. I'm aware the villains change their minds too quickly, I was concerned about this chapter being too long, since it contains two separate scenes. I will definitely expand on the villains, and maybe add more obvious stress to Twilight's dialogue.

Kyri Arriaga

Also, I felt like Tirek would have said more about her husband leaving, as a strong SO to the Shadow King. Another reader mentioned that Sombra would have only made this decision for his own ego. I think the characterization would come across stronger for both characters if Tirek brought up the argument's hole, and Sombra made the excuse that "there's only one way to ensure this job gets done," or something to that effect.

Kyri Arriaga

"Some scrawny unicorn nerd?" 👏👏👏 Sombra reminds me--after Scar, of course--of the grandpa in Willy Wonka that got out of bed to go see the Chocolate Factory.

Dragon Turtle

I think that difference is meant to represent how Twilight's had plenty of practice leading the populace as royalty. Also that at this point, Pandora's perceived antics don't phase her. She's past the point of letting Pandora fluster or anger her, and is just waiting for her daughter to just grow up already. I actually really like the aspect of tough love, which some might see as callous, on display here as Twilight also has to balance her duty to the greater good.

D

Also, feel free to disagree, because I can’t put a finger on “why” myself, but this writing doesn’t really sound like Twilight? I don’t know, I feel like it could be tweaked to sound a bit more like her. It just seems a little too... basic. Like maybe it could be a touch more neurotic? Or like she’s thinking out loud more? Not sure how to put it

D

I do think this could be better paced. More atmosphere to each scene, more description, more subtle transitions between emotional shifts (Twilight and Sombra both seem to change their minds really quick. I know they don’t, but that’s how it reads)

Lopoddity

Oh sure, I'd love that, thanks!

cactus bastrop

i genuinely enjoy editing things, would you be interested if i marked up some stuff in a document regarding pacing/proofing? obviously you wouldn't have to take any of my tips, but it's something i would be happy to do! as usual, lovely writing and i'm so excited about where the story is going. i can't wait to see what you have in store for us next!

SmilesPerHour

Honestly, this is my favorite chapter of the 'series' thus far. The stakes and drama are perfectly clear, the story runs smoothly, and you avoided the old cliche of kids warning the disbelieving parents of the impending danger. Twilight and the others are aware of this threat, taking it seriously, and Twilight even trusts Pandora to do what she thinks is right. They all have their plans, and it looks like they just might work... assuming the rug isn't pulled out from under us at the last minute. Initially, I was going to mention that it was a bit silly for Sombra to agree to this venture on the grounds of his title being besmirched, but upon further reflection, I think he did have a bit of an ego when we last saw him, so it's not wholly unrealistic to assume that he'd react like this when he hears that Moondancer is cutting in on his territory. Honestly, I'm kind of intrigued to see where the story progresses from here, and what it might mean for Pandora, Moondancer and the rest of Equestria. I just hope that if it comes down to it, Pandora isn't afraid to... put down her old friend for the sake of Equestria. Also, I nearly fell out of my chair when I heard Pandora mention Luci. I was afraid you'd forgotten about your little hellspawn princess!

Dragon Turtle

Maybe Starlight didn't come up in this context because in the context of 'monster,' she isn't a non-standard, non-pony species, and never got transformed into anything else? I think it's intentional on Lopoddity's part.

Lopoddity

Good tip, thanks!

Angsty Ram

Seems weird for Pandora not to mention Starlight in her rant. Considering Starlight didn’t turn into a demon or nightmare, she was just herself. Like, why wasn’t that picked up? She made a cult on her own accord

QuietZen

Interesting that Panny brought up Luna and Sunset, but not Starlight. In my opinion Starlight was the worst especially considering that she really doesn't comprehend the extent of what she did. Also, I think Sombra would point out that Mooney dying would rid him of the headaches and that it was really the stolen glory that goaded him to action. Beautiful work though! Can't wait to see what you do next!

Dragon Turtle

It makes total sense that Pandora would think of going to Sombra for his expertise, but I was still really surprised. Just because I didn't think he, Tirek and Luci were still canon, since Tirek's Tumblr ended, and these three haven't had anything to do with the Pandoraverse story. Also, the subject of continuity, are Celestia and Chrysalis married at this point? It just seems odd that while they're discussing the nature of 'monsters,' they wouldn't bring Chrysalis up of all, considering she's Pan's great-aunt (or something; would Celestia be her great-aunt?). Interesting how you wrote off Sunset's actions as demonic influence, since she seemed like an ass before that point with how she treated people, and put Equestria in danger by stealing Twilight's Element. Although, maybe she didn't KNOW the danger from doing that? But she DID know about it's location and power... Forget it, the logistics of that first movie made no sense. One detail I noticed is how Pandora uses the term "anypony," even though she explicitly states she's not one. Spike used to use that term in the show, but it made total sense, since he was always surrounded by ponies, and really saw himself as one for so long in his developmental years. But Pandora had a LOT of non-pony family members and friends, and this is further into the future when the modern vernacular has been changed to "everycreature" and such to reflect the influx of nonpony individuals to Equestria. So is this a purposeful statement on how Pandora sees herself? Is she actively choosing this word to refer to Twilight and her friends, seperating herself? Or was that just a word you wrote out of habit?

Amanda LeCaur

But other than that, amazing as usual! I especially enjoyed the characterization of Sombra, and how eff the kid IM THE SHADOW KING and I missed Lucy 😭

Amanda LeCaur

Maybe insert a small transition before “...I won’t.”? Something like “Twilight bristled against the wall of her daughters determination, ready to hurl logical treatises about why Pandora shouldn’t be the one to swoop in, why her daughter shouldn’t be the one in danger, why her baby...shouldn't suddenly be blurring into two Pandoras. Her wings dropped as she drew in a resigned sigh. “...I won’t.”

Lopoddity

Both, though I'd prefer feedback on the story itself. Flow, pacing, functionality, whether or not the emotions are leaning to close to melodrama, if the tone is too inconsistent (Pan's chapters should be funnier and less stressful than Moondancer's, while also not undermining the stakes). Also characterization notes are good- are the characters interesting, are they compelling, are their motivations clear (or even over-emphasized). All feedback is appreciated!

Onefoursix Tym

Would you want proofing critique? Or just general flow/pacing feedback?


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