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US Gov says 'Don't use a VPN'. Should you trust it?

🕑 Added 2025-01-14 18:59:19 +0000 UTC
US Gov says 'Don't use a VPN'. Should you trust it?

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The Hated One

The fact it's not a full device VPN makes me want to use Mullvad over this. But I am not discounting for those already paying for iCloud.

Peter Šurda

I'm also not completely sure about the details because I couldn't find them last time I checked. The whitepaper says it supports DNS and HTTPS traffic, but since it uses its own protocol, it needs support at the application level (i.e. it's not a full device VPN, just like you said). However, the support isn't limited to Safari, some other programs also have support, for example the curl binary that is provided by Apple.

The Hated One

In my understanding, Apple's Private Relay is not a VPN protocol and it only works in the Safari web browser, instead of protecting full device traffic. There may be some benefits to the design choices Apple went for but the fact it can't protect other app traffic is a major limitation.

Peter Šurda

Very balanced assessment. However, there is at least one VPN that is different and has potentially better privacy: Apple's iCloud Private Relay. It uses blind signatures (Apple doesn't see where you're connecting to, and Cloudflare doesn't know who you are). However it has other drawbacks, for example it is not available in all countries, doesn't allow you to change country and as far as I know it's closed source and uses its own protocols so we can't fully verify it's working as advertised. But just based on tests it appears to work.


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