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Russia-Ukraine Flash Report 12 FEB 2023 17:55 PST - Bakhmut Closed to Press and Aid Workers

🕑 Added 2023-02-13 02:06:26 +0000 UTC

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Thanks! I would have to wonder if Girkin isn’t right again, because I suspect that has always been the truth.

It is very hard to say without seeing for yourself. All we see is a filtered view by DNR and Russian censors. There is significant frustration at the cost of goods - fuel, food, drinking water. However, that's a near universal complaint of 7.5 billion people right now so it's hard to determine if this a "sign of the times" or is it worse. There is also frustration in the DNR on the issue with heat. Girkin in one of his latest posts, had a, "maybe Russia doesn't really like the DNR/LNR and just using us to destroy us" moment of clarity. How much does that represent the populous? Can't say. On the surface, you see life goes on in Donetsk like every other wartime city in Ukraine (both sides). It's really hard to say, but after 9 years of filtration and self-selection, the DNR and LNR are pretty much "Russian" from a population stand point.

I am curious. How are citizens in the occupied areas feeling about the Russians these days? Do they still feel breakaway/aligned with Russia or are they regretting their previous actions?

Luke

I do suspect that Ukraine may be setting their conditions for a controlled withdrawal. Or at least putting in the preparation 'just in case' as the pressure is starting to be applied from the north (especially) and the south. But then, even if they do concede the city, what has Russia realistically gained, and for what cost? I understand the territory to the West of the city is high ground, so Ukraine will have fire control over a city and the MSRs to and from it. So Russia (at least in the short term) will struggle to consolidate their newly conquered pile of rubble that they gallantly paid 10s of thousands of lives for. Especially since Ukraine has spent all winter preparing their next defensive lines.


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