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Russia-Ukraine Flash Report 09 MAY 2023 12:00 PDT - Did the Russian 72nd Brigade Flee Bakhmut?

🕑 Added 2023-05-09 19:07:46 +0000 UTC

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Where exactly is the Siverskyi Donets-Donbass Canal? I wish there would be links to Google maps in the flashes too πŸ™

He'll never get what he needs

I agree. I thought the same thing about prigozhin. He has to be looking at the failure in Bakhmut as sitting squarely on his shoulders and he must be anxious to deflect the blame. After all the brutality that Russia inflicted on ukraine I don't feel the slightest sympathy for what is about to befall them

AnaR737

The whole drama then looks like a last ditch attempt to prevent the loss of all that Prigozhin worked for in Bakhmut. If he can't get what he needs, he wants out and for someone else to deal with the fallout. The guy is not a philosopher but he is certainly faced with a dilemma, and so is the Russian army. And although Bakhmut itself is just a focal point, what happens there is certainly going to have repercussions in the whole theater. Why am I not sorry for them....I have been waiting for the reckoning for so long. Keep it coming.

If Ukraine has chosen to cross the canal, exposing themselves rather than defending a very defensible position - is that not a pretty ballsy statement? Are the 'gods of war' nearby and feeling bored?

Luke

It was pretty clear that if nothing had changed, Zemenskyy's famous 'Bakhmut will not fall' speak wouldn't have looked very good in hindsight. Even though it was quite clearly a propaganda stance to keep morale and stop Ukrainians from revolting at the idea of 1000s of their people being killed for a city they always were going to give, it's easier to feed the 'steadfast heroic defence' to a general population that a 'slow planned strategic retreat so that we can kill more of them then they can of us etc'. But, all of that may be moot as Zelenskyy could find himself accidentally right! There's a lot of serendipitous timing playing into Ukraine's hands here: Prigozhin's latest (and somewhat arguably understandable) tantrum and ultimatum; which remains to be seen if he does call the bluff and leave. The wider Wagner manpower woes. Russian regular forces on the flanks letting down Wagner's efforts in the city and causing them to lose significant hard fought ground. Well equipped, well trained and fresh Ukrainian forces arriving in the area as part of the expected Offensive. And the wider Offensive itself on the horizon (hopefully) all adds up to Ukraine potentially managing to hold onto Bakhmut after all as Russia will absolutely have to start directing resources away from the city, wherever that may be. Here's hoping anyway. I have tentative hopes.


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