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January 24th, 2025: Hall of Fame, Sabathia, Coaches, Mailbag

🕑 Added 2025-01-24 11:00:10 +0000 UTC

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Kevin Carter

Or maybe he’s a massive Mariano fan and believe there should be only one unanimous entrant into the HoF?

Jon

I understand it's shorthand for "CC was a great teammate", and maybe I've just heard the story too many times, but I'm more impressed by CC getting his off the field life together and getting help than I am with the whole "risked" a half million $ bonus when the guy made over a quarter billion in career earnings.

Bob from Manalapan

Wonder if the next NYY HoFer comes from the Contemporary Era committee route e.g. Donnie, Bernie, or Jorge.

Will

I’m curious how it would look to have a salary cap but allow unlimited performance incentives. e.g. A player’s guaranteed salary is capped at $40M/year, but they get an additional $1M per WAR, that sorta thing.

I'm Not The Droids You're Looking For

Milk I do think that system could help non CBT-paying teams. At least marginally. How? The CBT payers will be somewhat less likely to pay for other teams’ FAs, or offer to pay them slightly less, bc of the tax hit. That may give non-payers a leg up in keeping their own.

Zack

All the deferred money has to be placed in an account when you sign the player. It isn’t like the Dodgers can just hope in 20 years to pay Ohtani the deferred money, that money is sitting in a bank right now. Which is why it’s almost meaningless to wonder why the Yankees won’t do it. If you think Hal hates spending more on payroll, can you imagine what he thinks about having to have $60m sitting untouched for ten years?

Jerry Donohue

Or maybe he had 11 choices and wanted to vote for the non-Ichiro ones?

Spookie

There are two explanations for why that one person didn't vote yes. One, he believes he is legitimizing the process by proving that voters have the real freedom to vote Yes or No with either a good reason, a bad reason or no reason at all. Two, he is a fool who has some kind of grudge and is acting on it with his vote.

kyle

The dodgers raising payroll like this and the yankees wondering how they can trade stroman to be able to afford tim hill breaks my heart a little

Mike F.

Safe to say Mr. Santander was looking to dodge Canadian taxes by deferring loads of salary to years when he will be retired somewhere much warmer / lower tax.

Michael Axisa

I keep forgetting about him.

Bernard Ozarowski

Wouldn’t Brubaker be ahead of Warren on the SP depth chart? Am I being naive to assume he’s healthy enough to pitch?

MikeM

To the point on deferrals and signing bonuses, I actually think the system is broken right now. They (rightfully) use a net present value calc on deferred money, but don’t take it into account at all during the contract period. This means that teams can play around with a signing bonus and deferral to lower the tax, even if it comes out in the wash with the NPV. To me, the best calc would be a straight NPV across all years. A signing bonus should count “more” the same as deferrals count “less”. It’s not complicated at all to calculate (you can do it in one simple excel formula), and takes all the juice out of any sort of time/$ manipulation.

DZB

HoF ballots should definitely be made public. These are baseball writers, so they should be able to express their reasoning in writing, given that's the reason they were granted the right to vote in the first place. I don't agree with everyone who says that there's no difference between being unanimous, or getting all but one vote. It's a categorical thing, like batting .299 vs .300, or ending your career with 499 vs 500 HRs. Small differences matter, even if they really shouldn't. One last point - I partly blame the HoF for this issue since I imagine it probably comes down to a voter wanting to include 10 other names on the ballot. I really don't understand the 10 name limit. Different numbers of players enter the ballot each year, and different numbers hang around, so why have a fixed limit? I think it should be viewed as a series of X yes/no votes, where X is the number of names on the ballot - is each person worthy, or not...

chuangeUp

Not how that works. Ohtani got a 460M contract, not 700M. Santander 68.5M, not 92.5M. Snell 160M, not 182M. Once the contract value is decided, most players take those regular contracts, while a few others, for tax or flexibility reasons, defers some in exchange of larger surface number. Either way the value and AAV are unchanged.

MikeD

Isn’t it a bit surprising that the Yankees haven’t embraced deferrals as a way to lower the AAV of players and thus lower the team’s luxury tax obligations by helping them get under specific luxury tax tiers?

Ryan Drury

It feels to me the reason for the signing bonuses is tax purposes. All these players primarily residence at the time of the bonuses is either no or low state income tax.


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