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Quick thoughts after the Yankees trade for Cody Bellinger

🕑 Added 2024-12-17 22:44:00 +0000 UTC

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MikeD

I certainly wanted Soto back, but knowing that Hal would have restricted budget post the signing, and then cut next year, means you could be right. The team might not be quite as much fun without watching Soto and Judge hit back-to-back, but there's a chance they'll be better.

Tom Shea

I'm a Yankees fan that is also a Cubs season ticket holder - the projections that Bellinger would have hit 24 HR for the NYY last season is too low. Wrigley Field had historical low HR numbers last season because the wind blew in off the lake all season. I saw way too many HR die on the warning track in 2024.

Nicholas Pisano

You may be correct on that point.

B-Mo

LOL. Plan A was big splash followed by has beens and nobodies. Only the hated Soto saved us from that.

Nicholas Pisano

As you may have determined from my response to your posts on the fantasy hot stove season, I am happy about this transaction. I am also surprised and was wrong about the Yanks doing the wrong thing after losing Soto. I thought Bellinger would be a great addition *with* Soto, but he is still part of the plan I set out if I were king of the world. They have made some very good moves, which is a break from their pattern over several seasons of making one splash and then signing has-beens and nobodies. Doesn't excuse years of mismanagement, but I'll follow this Hot Stove and see where it takes this franchise. So now they need to sign Bregman and trade the slow-footed, "watch-the-ball-down-the-middle" Stanton to one of the big spending west coast teams. I think it would be best for the Yankees and for Stanton, who seems more energetic on the Pacific side of the continent. Signing Bregman, who knows how to win and has something to prove, will allow Jazz to go to second base. That leaves first base and left field. It's make or break for The Martian. Give him a shot. That leaves just picking up a lefty first baseman. There has to be someone out there with some pop who can hit .260 and not wilt with men on base.

Howard Newville

Apparently this is the fourth father-son duo for NYY, after Yogi and Dale Berra, Ron and Ike Davis, and Mark Leiters Sr and Jr https://www.mlb.com/news/cody-bellinger-follows-father-clay-to-yankees

Michael Axisa

About Lowe? He'd be a really good fit. I'm not sure Texas is really open to trading him though. Seems like a lot of speculation.

Nick

He had a down year in his walk year. You don't think its conceivable that he could bounce back in '25 and get paid more?

Zack

Ha! Hard to believe a giant guy’s comp is one of the best speed guys ever

The Original Drew

They have other needs and are trying to get under the LT threshold and they just traded for Jake Burger.

David from Sunny Jax

What do you think, Mike?

David from Sunny Jax

Copied from MLB Rumors, just to give full credit.

David from Sunny Jax

“With the Rangers wanting to keep the payroll below the CBT threshold of $241 million, they only have about $27 million to work with to add another two or three bullpen arms and the left-handed bat that Young would like. In order to make a bigger splash in the bullpen or with the bat (perhaps Joc Pederson), it may require the Rangers to create a little more financial flexibility. And the trade for Burger sure seems to make Nathaniel Lowe’s expected $10 million arbitration salary stand out. It might make sense to move Lowe and reallocate the money to other still-pressing needs.” Low-power first basemen have long been unappreciated, and Lowe is no exception. The reason I use the wRC+ stat all the time is that it gives proper weights to each offensive event – singles, doubles, triples, home runs, walks, and HBPs – while also adjusting for the player’s home ballpark (100 is average). Despite hitting ten fewer home runs, Lowe arguably outhit Christian Walker this year, given Lowe’s 121 wRC+ against Walker’s 119. Lowe bats left-handed and is a pretty good deal at less than $11MM for his age-29 season.

David from Sunny Jax

Came here to say this. Here’s what Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News said about it just a few days ago. He’s a pretty reliable source for Rangers news…

DZB

Slightly off topic, but looking at Fangraphs to check on stats of FA and trade targets got me back to the ZiPS projections for the NYY. The summary ends by saying that the projections for Spencer Jones "are much worse than the scouting consensus", but hidden amongst the details is the fact that his top near-age comp is HoFer Lou Brock. I'd take that outcome...

MikeD

Fans: Bregman -- No Alonso -- No Walker -- No Santander -- No Gleyber -- No There's pretty much a no for most of the players still out there from many fans point of view. Fortunately, fans don't run teams as we'd have no team! I do wonder if the best approach is to go Rays to fill out the rest of the roster. We have big players, so maybe the team should be looking at non-star names that collectively will deliver at least league-average play. Sign Austin Hays to pair with Dominguez in left, which will allow Bellinger to play 1B at times if Dominguez is in center. Trade for Wade, so Belli can platoon with him. Shift Jazz to 2B and pick up someone like Josh Rojas for 3B. He's a lefty, good defender. Non-sexy, but adding in Hays, Rojas and Wade could overall make the Yankees stronger. For the record, I really don't want Rojas, but using him as an example, but I'd prefer a stopgap like that than overspending.

JPL

I don’t get why Gleyber would sign a “prove it” deal. Those are for guys coming off an injury, or who had an outlier walk year. Gleyber has been Gleyber for 7 seasons. What’s he going to prove in year 8? Either a team wants him, or they don’t. There’s nothing to prove.

MikeD

The longer-term plan can include a one-year stopgap. Probably should since we're limited by the available free agents and players that teams will trade. Wade's a high OBP player. That has value in front of Judge.

gary noorigian

I’ve heard no mention of any interest in Carlos Santana , yet he had a similar WAR to Walker , is a switch - hitter and won a GG last year. He’d probably sign a one year contract which is also appealing .

Brad Schlesinger

hard to get excited about a guy everyone wanted to avoid like the plague the past two years. there’s no objective way to feel good about the offense right now. losing soto blew an unfixable hole in the offense that bellinger, wade, gleyber and whoever else can’t fix. it’s gonna be ugly, especially if they go arenado, goldschmidt snd others from the decrepit squad

Will H.

What do you mean by five year plan? Like focus on building 2030 championship team and write off the Judge / Cole era?

Zack

Having Bellinger promised CF makes it easier to sell FAs on being the 1B, too

Sam Forman

Gleyber was the linchpin of their sloppy play. Would much prefer they sign Kim.

Mark Davis

Why would TEX trade him?

Mark Davis

Let’s give the Martian the benefit of the doubt: he was coming off a serious injury last year. Bellinger is a veteran and proven CF; it doesn’t necessarily say anything negative about Dominguez that they’re choosing to play Belli at his best position. LF at YS is hard to learn mid-season. Hopefully a full and healthy spring training will help!

Dan G

Get Arenado and Bryant and we’ll be the best team come 2017! Seriously tho not sure how to feel. He’s such a confusing player to analyze. Hopefully he puts 25-30 over the short porch

pkmuldy

Love the addition, but a little concerning that they're already penciling him in at CF. Feels like we're all ignoring what the team has been saying about their assessment of Dominguez for the last few months: 1. A worse all-around player than Verdugo 2. A worse right-handed hitter than Jose Trevino 3. And now, not a real CF So they think he's a lefty platoon bat with speed who was trained in our system, which means his eyebrow manicuring game is strong. His ability to hit a cutoff man, or take a secondary lead, or run hard out of the box on a ball that may or may not be home run? Not so good.

Mike Bono

Don’t want Naylor at all but I’m also not understanding the Wade interest. Guy has done very little in his career. Five year plan needs to be the goal.

William

Lowe would be great, especially cause he has two arb years left.

Mike Farley

So far, so good. Keep it going Cash!

William

Would be funny if the Yankees somehow acquired Bregman and Naylor. Acquire all the Yankee enemies.

Samantha Green

Smyth did indeed beat you to it 😂 (Mike Medvin’s post, but credits James.) https://bsky.app/profile/mikemedvin.bsky.social/post/3ldjtiuygsc2g

Michael Axisa

Naylor would be great. I just figure Wade will come much cheaper in terms of prospects, and is more realistically attainable. (Plus I could see the Yankees being weird about the rock the baby thing.)

The Original Drew

Nate Lowe would be my ideal target at 1B.

William

Not sure I get the Wade Jr love. Not even a 2 win player last few years, and already 30. Totally fine but not great. I’m much more on the Josh Naylor train. Better and 3 years younger.


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