The Christerion Collection Ep. 1 – God's Not Dead
🕑 Added 2023-09-09 03:31:40 +0000 UTCBeth and Matt sit down for the first episode of a new podcast called The Christerion Collection.
Beth and Matt sit down for the first episode of a new podcast called The Christerion Collection, a show where a recovering Catholic (Matt) and an ex-episcopalian (Beth) take a dive into the ever-growing ocean of religious movies to see what they can learn about this foreign yet familiar kind of art. In this episode, they watch God's Not Dead (2014), one of the standard-bearers for modern-day Christian cinema.
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Olivia
Growing up Christian I unfortunately understand this movie on a deep level, but I do remember going to see this movie with my youth group and at the end of the movie everyone just texting each other gods not dead. Everyone’s phones went off in the theater and it was pretty funny. On another note, I am a liberal. And I would 100% use an ‘I love evolution’ sticker on my car.
corundum liqueur
Grew up Christian, lucky enough to have only good experiences. This episode and series help me see beyond my peaceful bubble and through wider propaganda techniques. I remember watching GND at a friends house in middle school and totally falling for all the propaganda that you so neatly picked out and exposed as wild story elements. I like to think I’m smarter now.
corundum liqueur
I’m so deeply intrigued by what you just described. My morbid curiosity kinda wants to watch it for myself.
Jack Atkinson
This is my favourite series you guys do it is so insightful about a big part of my youth and a lot of the thoughts i had kinda being forced to watch some of these movies or at least dealing with the pop christian fallout that came with them. For at least a couple years after the release of 'God's not dead' I remember the idea of an evil college teacher accosting you for your beliefs was HUGE and it turned a lot of christian kids I knew (myself as well embarassingly) into sort of debate bros? Before debate bros was a thing; just like putting yourself into these situations where you would make inflammatory claims s a challange to anyone around you and that is the lasting impact that 'God's not dead' had on me lol.
Sarah Pettit
Had to watch this movie in high school bible class freshman year. I remember we had a whole discussion on if the professor actually went to heaven and if it raining as he died counted as baptism... anyways this podcast is very healing lol
Flufflecat
I NEED you guys to know about the Christian home movies that my Christian summer camp would make and sell to the campers. There was an entire running saga of the "Dark Storm Rising" chronicles, starring two plucky teens and the reformed Russian spy that they converted to Christianity going on god-themed adventures against the forces of evil (filmed on location in Western New York). The Russian was played by the camp director, who later turned out to be a pedophile and now calls himself a victim or cancel culture. This is a formative Christian movie experience for me. The movies had pyrotechnics. They blew up cars in the woods around the camp. I own at least 5 of them on DVD, and they'd give them to us for free if we promised to use them to evangelize to our friends at school.
Dee
It feels good knowing religious trauma is bringing us all together
the chompie man
That is wild
Lav
“You’re about to know god a lot better than me” sounds like something a priest that’s turned into a hitman would say
Ashton Jackson
They need to do more podcasts like this!!
Aidan Felker
I am craving more
Alvin Bo Balvin
I loved this. Thank you so much. I had no idea, but Matt and I had very similar experiences growing up. My father studied in the seminary also, graduated, and then had a family instead of following priesthood. He has a very thoughtful and in depth knowledge of Christian history and I enjoy hearing his opinions. I don't identify with Christianity anymore, much like how I think you seem to, but I also want to maintain a relationship with my parents. When I thought about it, that also would devastate me to receive a last letter from a parent just trying to convert me instead of saying they loved me. I know they love me, and it was real on a personal level to imagine this concept that I've never thought about before. Thanks for sharing about yourselves in this podcast. I look forward to the next one.
Mickael Wilson
New listener to this patreon content and I have to say that I really appreciate how yall handled everything. As someone who has been in the church their whole life and considers themselves a follower of christ, how the world deals with the bible isn't black and white. It's not dissimilar from any title in our culture whether you consider yourself a republican, a feminist, vegan, etc. there are so many variations of people that follow these ideologies and who don't understand them the same way. I appreciate this podcast because yall are liberal and me not being liberal it's important to me to know what yall think about certain things and for me to do more leg work when it comes to understanding someone else's perspectives rather than just trying to shove my own down their throats. Definitely gonna listen to the rest.
Sierra Dawson
As a Christian, it's absolutely BAFFLING to me that someone can try converting someone AS THEY ARE DYING. Like accepting Jesus into your heart or whatever isn't going to stop you from dying 💀
Josh Bohrer
I subscribed to Patreon just for this podcast. This was a great discussion, and an accurate representation of how this movie is perceived by ex-christians.
Nico Campbell
As a big TSDW fan, this was great. I'm so glad I decided to give it a shot. Excited for the rest
Freyja Darling
You guys for sure keep doing this pod cast. Like the movies are crazier too. But I love this dynamic and the discussion. It truly shows how they just are like your bad and judgmental and is legit one of the reasons i couldn’t stand going to church. The church I went to is famous too in Cali and the one I went to from 6 years old till I was an adult is famous in DC/VA area. They even promoted this movie! It was crazy! We even did as kids and teens in church, (***trigger warning school shooting**) if you did the music part we did a play where it took the columbine shootings and romanized it. How the shooters took time to ask two girls do you belive in god and pulled the trigger on both anyway. Then how God came and got the one who said yes! Like that was just so messed up to me. Then when I was 21 I was going to go to Italy for a mission trip but I found out they where going to where the vatican is, to preach Christianity because they believed that Catholics are not Christians. I was like shook. I ended up having to drop out because of medical reasons but in all honestly I discussed it with my partner. Legit even the pastor who was leading the group was from Italy himself so I thought how much he had to be brainwashed to think that this was okay and safe. To bring a group of young adults to the vatican and say their not Christian’s when the Catholics I know would never be so full of judgment. To say hey if your not Catholic your going to hell. I was shocked. The fact that they where going to do this and only 3 people spoke the launage too. This was a nondemoniatiinal church too! Like I’ve had convos with priest from Catholic Churches and they are not even judgmental. It’s just so shocking how hateful theses movies are. Also the new movies even how now they even feed into the trump side. The “one world goverment “ belief. Then of book burning , and how they banned bibles.. legit the Bible and how they secretly make them the plots just get so lost in translation now. It’s like your going to hell if you don’t belive. They are going to banned the Christian religion. It’s just dumb! It’s fear mongering and brainwashing! I’ve even been swatted and asked if I was safe and they tried to say my partner was a cult leader when covid happened. Because we needed help because someone broke in. (Long story, but I even have photos thanks to my neighbor). So if you do keep this going I would be happy to contribute.
Alex Ander
oh my GOD this movie traumatized me when i was a teen i had a full panic attack when i was watching it 😭😭😭
Maximum S Labrador
This is dream content for me
Marc-André Martin
I'm here for the Beth and Matt dynamic
Jaboyjono
As a follower of Christ and speaking for a lot of Christians, this is a MEME movie. Christians are so desperate for any type of media supporting them that when this movie came out, everyone especially in my church promoted it heavily. I rememeber watching it and remember how CORNY and how irrelevent the arguments and conversations were, and how unrealistic actual conversations have with christians and non christians occur. The movie is bad and super outdated. I would love for yall to talk about the chosen, probably one of the closest depictions of who jesus is.
Jonathan Olsen
As a left leaning Christian I am 100% here for this podcast. What modern evangelicalism has done with and to the Bible is deplorable. Please make more and also please review “do you believe” it is literally at times a shot for shot remake of Crash as a Christian movie.
LEO081492
GUYS GOD'S NOT DEAD 5 LATER THIS YEAR
withinmyself
Great conversation. Both of my parents are retired ministers. I consider myself an agnostic who leans towards Christianity. My parents always talked about other religions. We had a copy of the Quran, books on Buddhism, atheism. My Dad was always the only pastor who would go out of his way to welcome everyone in his church and regularly married same sex couples. Not sure how this fits but my parents were big Rocky Horror Picture Show fans and I saw that movie at least 4 times before I was in High School. I have a lot to say about this topic but I mainly just wanted to say thank you for clarifying there are Christians who aren't part of the mainstream right. One last thing. I have a "friend" who is part of the extreme right and is a member of a southern baptist church. He regularly says "I'm so glad there is a hell" Not for any philosophical reason or even as an argument. Basically just when someone pisses him off. Like if a waiter forgets to put a lemon in his water. He's the worst. I need new friends. I like to think that there's a picture of him in his yearbook with his senior quote that just says "I'm glad there's a hell" I told my Dad about this and he said, well actually (hehe) Well actually, the bible never depicts hell as an actual place. That is a very secular invention that some sects of religion have taken and used as they see fit.
Rebelfox
God I loved this. 100 more please.
Rob Gibbons
I’m imagining Sorbo paying for the Patreon just to listen to this episode and refute it. I’m giggling
Ryan Phillips
Please make this a regular series 🙏
Nick Schrock
I will say some of your points are valid but, when it comes to "anti-education" that is plain wrong, you will get the occasional crazy aunt but as a Christian it is extremely hard to raise a kid and find them a school that doesn't shove stuff that goes completely against what you belive down their throats. I was homeschooled and my parents are Christians and they didn't try to control or hide knowledge from me, they were and still are open to teach me anything and then explain what they think about it and then let me make my own decision. I would never let me kid go into public school right now, and I would have to prepare them alot for college.
Reilly Gillis
I remember when my abusive catholic ex-girlfriend dragged me to see this movie in the theater. I definitely thought it was strange that the "happy ending" was "we hit the atheist with a car and now he's dead!" (I know the whole thing was that he repented on his death bed, but I still feel like that's not a great message)
Brian Whitfield
That was awesome. I’m here for a hundred more
Katilynn Morgan
Beth bringing up that she tried to go to youth group as a kid/ teen and feeling like she was an outsider hits so hard. I did the same thing as a kid, after being brought to a babysitter who was a DEVOUT Christian and used it like it was title that made her better than everyone else; She guilt tripped me (and subsequently my mother) in to going back to church. I, being a little goth/alt/whatever I was in the mid to late 00's, felt so isolated in a place that preached community. I stopped going, and never really talked about it, but it's a small comfort knowing I wasn't the only one. So thank you for that Beth.
Widget
this was incredibly healing for me to listen to this. I grew up going to a christian school and a very intense legalistic baptist church. The healing for me has been slow and steady but this was great to hear someone’s take outside of the church on this film. I remember seeing it in theaters and it blows my mind to see it now realizing how it’s just literal propaganda. love you guys thank you can’t wait for more ❤️
Estrogenerator
Are we not gonna talk about how there are THREE SEQUELS to God's Not Dead?? What a franchise!
Jed
Christian here, it drives me absolutely bonkers when “Christian media” settles for one-dimensional, offensively stereotypical portrayals of differing beliefs. It’s like they think that these portrayals of atheists, liberals, muslims…are going to draw people to the faith when it is more repulsive than anything else. I would be described as a right-leaning Christian Libertarian. In my opinion it’s not the job of Christianity to utilize the power of government to enforce our moral values into society.
CobraJEDI
Working my way through the patreon content and was a little hesitant on this one. It was AMAZING! Please do more of these!
Katerina Manuel
This was actually hilarious. I watched this movie when I was in high school youth group and this podcast is so fuckin accurate but my little brain at the time was like wow, this movie is so good 🤣🤣
Jenna
Please Please PLEASE do more of these! Absolutely loved this discussion and commentary!
Andrew Bollinger
This was incredible and validated so much of my discomfort in going to the theater with my family for this movie haha absolutely loved it and you all should totally do “How to Save a Life” because that like… messed up my little freshman of high-school self.
Hector
Please do morrrreeeee this was so good!
Jordan Burton
Where’s the rest of the series 😭 please tell me they’re making more
Josiah Muskrat
Angels on the Outfield is references CONSTANTLY in pop culture. Lol
Liona Lutes
yall should review the original Haunted Mansion lmao
Katie Boeckman
Oh my goddd here's an article I found about it it's so funny to me 😂 https://christianswhocursesometimes.com/the-legend-of-why-veggie-tales-was-forced-to-change-inappropriate-song-lyrics/
welcometojen
YES PLEASE veggie tale content. What is the bunny song controversy, though????
Amanda Larsen
I would pay for the Patreon for this. I forgot how much time I spent as a preteen watching Pureflix trailers on YouTube before bible study. This is everything I want now as an adult
The Pentagenarian
Absolutely loved this. You guys have got to do more.
George Marsh
Thank you guys for sharing about this batshit movie. As a guy in mid-twenties from the UK we just didn’t grow up with this imposed religious media
Kelton Hollister
No, but that sounds like both a horrible movie and a horrible experience for you. I’m sorry that pastor subjected you to it!
Kelton Hollister
Please cover the Lego Passion of the Christ… it is SO bonkers. I’d also love your takes on the “I am Jesus Christ” video game when that hot mess drops
Danny Trejo
Nailed it. Turn that pain into power
Katie Boeckman
As a former Catholic, then a former Independent Baptist, I absolutely am here for this as a series or it's own podcast! Obsessed. I know it's a little different because it's animated but would love if you covered the veggie tales (especially the Bunny song controversy) 💕
hexcat
Please check out “The Badge, The Bible, and Bigfoot” on prime
Ethan Calvert
Always have a hard time picking my favorite podcast, usually between Dungeons and Daddies or Oh No Ross & Carrie. I no longer have to pick. Please continue.
William Utech
Please make another one of these
Gwendolyn Hammer
Disappointingly few "I <3 Evolution" bumper stickers on the market.
Erethizon_dorsatum
Angels in the Outfield is by far one of my most nostalgic watches - and until now I thought nobody else had ever heard about it. Nobody ever recognizes quotes from it
wbrett1983
Please have more of these! Matt, Beth, you are incredible!
Alyssa
As someone who still is of the faith - I’ll admit that I was a little nervous about this ep. But honestly, I really enjoyed it! It’s good to hear an objective breakdown of why it’s a bad movie based on writing and storytelling techniques, instead of just bashing on the faith and religious aspect of the movie. I really appreciated how respectful and thought-provoking this episode was! Can’t wait to hear more!
Stacie Collins
Wild! Loved this! My nephews watch some very 'interesting' Christian shows and I feel like I have to deprogram them sometimes.
monty901111
As a reformed Pentecostal I am HERE for this. I revisited my memories of this movie in the worst possible way, 10/10 would recommend. I hope they will do more of these, I'd love to hear their take on Fireproof and its absolutely insane idea of "healthy" relationships
Reid B.
We need an “I heart evolution” bumper sticker as merch
Zoe Berry
I always love listening to the group chat about movies, and a person who has NO IDEA what these movies are, it's so much fun to listen - great perspectives and a great listen length, can't wait for more!
Lori Berryman
Christians think they are always the victim, thank you. I've noticed that since I've gotten out of the bubble.
Gay Icon Yog-Sothoth
That was a blast! I'm also a recovering catholic and would love to see this become a series. The concept (and hosts) are amazing!
Katie Madison
Absolutely loved this, please keep going!
Araina Righteous
I need much more of this
JP Salentine
Iiiiiittttttttsssss a crossover -3 fans found
Ariana
My wife and I think the director/one of the two pastors looks like an off brand Nickleback during the movie. Also excited to listen to more of this!!!!
Nick Schrader
I would love to see them do The Reconciler, which is like Christian SAW
Hollis
i forgot how crazy that movie was !!
Lauren Clem
my kingdom for a Prince of Egypt episode pleaseeeeee
Evan
This was really cathartic and enjoyable to listen to. I hope you continue to do this!
Sam&Chris
I loved hearing Matt and Beth talk about the film and can't wait for them to do more.
Lindsey Decker
I enjoyed this ep on so many levels -- as a fan of Beth and Matt, as a film buff, and as an atheist who grew up in a small and super, super, really ridiculously intensely fundamentalist Christian town.
What do we want, time travel. When do we want it. That's Irrelevant!
Agreed. I mentioned this as I would love to see Beth and Matt on GAM. They brought a very different perspective to the review, and I loved the Rocky tie in
Nora Hopeless
Off topic but did anyone ever have to watch the Christian movie "to save a life" about this kid who committed suicide after shooting up a school? And it's this other kid trying to like grapple with why someone would do that? My youth pastor made me watch it after my ex boyfriend committed suicide...not a great time.
Nora Hopeless
I love this! I've been deconstructing for about 5 years and now identify as agnostic. this bonus content is such a great thing to get to listen to! I remember watching this movie when it first came out and it just rubbed me all sorts of the wrong way. I love hearing your takes on it 😅 also, I would just like to say the new Newsboys will NEVER be as good as the old Newsboys.
Kaprielle Veroni Fioramonti
Ex Mormon here. Love this!
Ben Johnson
I’m obsessed and I need more!
Kyna
this is such a good podcast concept theres so much to unpack in these movies
Kay M. C.
But also don’t worry! There’s about 8 billion “people talking about movies” podcasts. And I need one of Beth and Matt doing Christian movies!
Kay M. C.
Love this so much!! Especially as an exvangelical
Merp
As someone whose been to a lot of different kinds of religious services, this shit is my jam. Interested to hear more
Gray Carroll
Hey! Right here. Clocked it straight away. There’s at least two PIAT/Daddies fans.
Amara Davidson
this is exactly my niche- i’m obsessed.
Caitlyn Russell
This is amazing and I need more!! - I especially loved this as someone who is no longer religious but saw this as a youth group teen and did indeed send those texts😂
allnitegyme
Amazing :) please to more :)
thegreatToast 23
I would happily listen to any and all of these.
Blythe Atkinson
I loved Breakfast back in the day!! But as an ex-vangelical the lyrics really hit differently now XD
Blythe Atkinson
Ex-vangelical here. Beth and Matt's conversation was a lot of fun to listen to. I look forward to more of these in the future! (Also I definitely grew up listening to the Newsboys XD;;)
Rargona
I wonder what the GAM / Daddies crossover audience looks like?
Morgan Pestyk
fellow ex-episcopalian here! this was absolutely perfect and I hope there's more!!
Allen
This new show is proof that God's not dead🤣. Would love more episodes!
Bishini
My cousin thought I was going to hell because I was Catholic and forced me to watch this movie with him. All I remember is the insane ending. Everything else was repressed lol Thank you for your fun analysis! I’m so stoked for more of these 😁❤️
Bishini
I just saw both of these on my feed and was like, “Whoa! Weird coincidence.”
Jess Houwen
Y'all did way better with that than I would have. As a Christian, Christian movies make me want to throw things through walls.
Austin Ly
I'd recommend The Chosen. Just a well made show. It follows Jesus' ministry as told in the gospels and they kinda breathed some life into the stories. Usually when people read the bible they can fall into a monotonous voice that takes away from the stories. They fleshed out the characters. They introduced Judas at the end of season two and he's just a regular guy. Reading the bible I always thought that he just had to be obviously evil, but it reminded me he was just a normal human being who messed up. I also thought it was awesome that they portrayed Matthew with characteristics of autism spectrum disorder (ASD). Just a good show.
Austin Ly
its a masterpiece. Experts on the three Abrahamic religions were consulted and its just great
Kendall Crosby
Omg I absolutely love this. Please don't stop making these. And I can't believe y'all didn't discuss the fact that Kevin spent his whole career destroying people's faith in God but it's a good thing he got to repent before he died so he can go to heaven 🤣 deep south here and took a long time take that last step as an agnostic atheist
TJ Edwards
This was amazing and I hope we get a full spinoff podcast of this content!
RikuTheDawnHero
This is awesome content, and it's nice to hear from some other people who were former Christians on the topic of Christian entertainment since I am also a former Christian! I would love to hear more from Bet and Matt and hope this becomes a full podcast running alongside dungeons and daddies!!
Michaeline Collins
I have been really deep diving into deconstruction content and what the heck is up with America's brand of evangelicalism and this crazy right shift. I loved the dynamic or Beth and Matt. I am so excited to hear more! This was fun. Thanks!
Karen Boyd
I can't wait to share this with my exvangelical friends!
Sam J.
Idk if Matt and Beth read these comments but if anyone else is curious, here's an answer to Matt's question about the "morality proves God is real" argument. A lot of Christians do try to argue what Matt said, that you can't be a moral person without Jesus. And that is nonsense, for the reasons Matt gave. But the actual argument in Christian apologetics is not that you can't be a moral person without God; it's that the existence of morality at all is evidence of a moral creator. It fully agrees with Matt that you don't need to be Christian to be a good person, and that you don't need religion to know right from wrong. But it continues with "If everyone is instilled with an innate sense of morality, where did that come from?" There's more to it than that, but it basically uses that line of reasoning to conclude that it could only come from a good, moral god. Also, I'm not trying to be a Well Actually, I just genuinely find this stuff fascinating and thought other people might too! I loved this episode and really hope we get more!
Spencer Mosley
Please, please, please, please, please, please, PLEASE keep this going!
Marcel Cabato
As a Bible belt catholic that went to an evangelical primary school and did a month in a cambridge intro philosophy course, I straight up scored an almost perfect score in contradictory beliefs. I've been thoroughly schooled in most popular pro-theological arguments. Almost none of them hold water or remain sound under scrutiny. End of the day, this is just repeating dogma and acting like that is enough to base a life on. Its also about reinforcing the smugness and in group, the movie is not in good faith trying to teach anyone anything. All that to say, thanks for doing this series I love it!
Patrick Ohl
Loved this one. Please keep it up!
Kellie Zufelt
ex mormon here please do 17 miracles
Tess
Omg I’m having a God’s Not Dead screening with my friend in 2 days, so this came out at the perfect time!!!
Justin Sciullo
this was GREAT, i NEEEEEEEEED more
Krryptiid
Matt & Beth energy is the inverse of Freddy & Matt energy
Ralph
This was fantastic!! Keep these episodes coming, please :)
Adrianna Owens
Finally got to sit down and listen - this was awesome! Can’t wait to hear more episodes.
Alex Beighle
Good to know, thank you
Gmork
God Awful Movies reviewed it if you want to hear it shredded.
Samhain(saw-win)
I love this, especially now that I’ve deconstructed
Samhain(saw-win)
Go to therapy, the world doesn’t revolve around your beliefs
Kyle Barr
Please more of this!
Sam Peck
This was soooooooo good. Please make more!
InsomniacArrest
This was so fun! Love to listen to more!!
Michael Nixon
Heads up if you're gonna hop on the ASSASSIN 33 AD train, and you truly should: DO NOT get the director's newer cut (renamed "Black Easter"). Just... trust me.
natattack
Just wanted to second all of the other comments - absolutely loved this. Thanks Beth and Matt!
Alex Beighle
Everyone should watch "Assassin 33 A.D." An outrageous religious movie that is also anti Muslim and deals with time travel. I recommend it because it is very serious about its message but comes across like parody. A poor synopsis - College students get recruited by a Muslim millionaire to build him a time machine. Sub plots include - 2 of the main college kids have a love plot, time travel with different outcomes i.e. multiverse and paradox plus paradox correction, Jesus downloading English from God to speak with one of the college students, a B plot that deals with a contracted security guy whose family dies at the beginning but gets a happy ending, Muslim mercenaries gunning down Roman soldiers and at one point Jesus, and one of the most ridiculous uses of the word jihad I have ever seen. Its a movie that is so bad, it becomes funny. I hope this makes you want to watch it and discuss.
Amelia
OMG, I absolutely loved this! So much fun, really loved the vibe! Beth's summary was really concise and I loved how the critique wasn't just "Christians are dumb," but really picked apart the messed up bits and wildness of the movie. I had a high school friend who was very into the Newsboys, quite the flashback lol
Josiah Muskrat
This is actually great, and really therapeutic. PLEASE DO MORE
Darren Jensen
The version of Christianity in this movie is pretty much the way I was raised.
Jason X
Just gotta say, as a born and raised Baptist (who somehow managed to keep his faith) I 100% get Matt's anger about the dogmatic BS. But like they said, there's still plenty of reasonable, even smart, religious people out there if you really look.
Alexis Marie
highly recommend the movie soul surfer which blames the girl who got her arm bit off by a shark, on her skipping a mission trip LMAO
Dance_JR
Truly amazing I remember when this movie came out and got popular I was in highschool and out in the open Atheist and remember the amount of hate and dumb questions I had to bat away
Gmork
GAM is less kind to its targets than Matt and Beth were. I find it hilarious, but I could see how some people who like this might find it mean. Worth a listen though.
Dj Woodring
Love it!
maddo
I just graduated w a BA in philosophy and iv been saying FOR YEARS philosophy is nearly inextricable from religion/god. THANK YOU MATT.
Amy Record
Maybe some of the older ones too like The Single's Ward, God's Army 1 and 2, The Best Two Years, Sons of Provo, Baptists At Our Barbecue....shit there were a lot.
Cleo Klauminzer
I fucking loved this!! Please do more!
Jalen Barnes
I love the pod overall, while you both may have christian backgrounds, it's lacking christian nuance Overlooking basic christian concepts with certain topics. I hope you invite poeple from the religion you wish to discuss Otherwise if can be rather distasteful. Scrolling through this comment section it greatly leans to those who dislike religion which means you're leaning off neutrality.
Morti Mushy
Oh for sure. Though surprisingly I live in a Christian college community and the students who weren’t Christian [Idk why you would go since chapel every day and theology classes are required to graduate.] were the most obnoxious people to anyone who disagreed with them, constantly wanting to debate and be angry at every little thing. Rolling their eyes at everything biblically…. For 4 years straight. Saying this as a women, it was mostly women who would challenge you, the guys were chill and didn’t care 🤣🤣 But the women made sure you knew they were third wave feminists.
RedDragon27
Long time listener, first time caller (commenter lol) and dedicated Catholic who loves the church. Interesting podcast. I've been a fan of Freddy/Matt and the crew for a long time (VGHS, RocketJump the Show, Story Break and now D&Dads). I think it's interesting that they would even attempt this podcast, why they feel it something they need to explore. When you listen for a long time they like to poke fun and laugh at Christians from time to time (just made a Catholic Priest joke last episode) I cringe and then just turn a blind eye and keep listening and enjoying the content, becaue I dont think they understand what they're doing when they say those things or make those jokes. I think they're all genuinely super nice talented funny people. However you can clearly see whenever they make these jokes and poke fun at Christians/Catholics/Jesus they quicky search for or provide an over-the-top laugh or seek validation from one of the other co-hosts. I sense a real fragility, yet an interest in the faith. Certainly enough interest to take it a step farther and launch this podcast. I like to think Catholics and Christians are on the same side, but when it comes to these type of movies I see the differences. Christian cinema for the most part is terrible. Terrible acting, scripts, low budgets and over-the-top cheesiness. I saw this movie when it come out, I remember enjoying it, enjoying the themes of it, the music and Kevin Sorbo actually did a great job acting. I did not text 100 people after lol. I could like it while also not totally buy into all the concepts. I do believe that up until the last minute of your death you can be saved, so I'm fine with that theme of "it's never too late" thats 100% true. They way they went about it is extreme and unlikely. I'll continue to listen, not so much because I care about the movies but I enjoy getting the personal tidbits and anecdotes and what happened to them in their faith journey and what they believe now and why. To Matt's credit he speaks extrememly honestly about the good and bad experience he had growing up Catholic and going to Catholic school and doesn't just say bad things, he also says some good things and talks about good people he met along the way. I think there is a reason that science fiction, fantasy, video games, etc. are so popular in our culture. I believe we are created by God, we have a soul, that there is a heaven and a hell and angels and saints and demons. That's pretty wild stuff! And it's REAL and we are a part of it. We all play a role. So it's not surprising to me that such a large protion of our population are drawn to the fantasy and adventure genre because deep down in our souls we are all called to it. Part of me is hoping that Matt and Beth, and the whole D&Dad crew, which like I said is made up of awesome, kind, talented individuals can find there way to or back to the Church.
Nathan Grice
I went to college as a Christian and didn’t experience any pushback for my religion; it stinks if you did, but that’s by no means universally true.
Nathan Grice
For anybody who wants more of this, check out God Awful Movies! The hosts didn’t have a Christian upbringing, but the premise is otherwise the same
Chris Wade
I love Evolution stick but it has pokemon on it
Lienisaur
Christians collecting humans like kids collect Pokémon. "Gotta Convert Them All, Jesus Christ!"
MeetooCat
I love prince of egypt. Great songs.
MeetooCat
That scene where he says "how can ou be mad at God when he doesn't exist" or something has been shown in my church and churchgroups several times. I have never seen the entire movie, but that scene I have seen often.
Beck Webster
Long time D&Dads listener and recovering Baptist, current Episcopalian here: I love this. I had to watch many many of these movies when they came out (and before I did lol) and I love the critical look at these films. Looking forward to the next episode!
Jacob Baldridge
Case for Christ is based on a book of the same name. Solid author.
Jacob Baldridge
FYI dreamworks authorized a musical of it. Previews look amazing.
jen Rogue
Love this pod. Growing up the only big Christian movie I would watch was The prince of Egypt. I also some what reminded vegie tales because of the songs
Jacob Baldridge
Christian here, one could even say I lean conservatively. While i disagree on some points made overall this was great. Maybe a suggestion is to have a current Christian on in order to address the issue of potentially creating a strawman yourselves.
Chris Hutton
This is so fucking good
Mort
Pleassseee make more of these!! I Was raised in fundamentalist baptist household, listening to people break down why the movies I was forced to watch made me feel so gross is super refreshing and you both are amazingly funny and insightful💕🩵
CopperKnight
I was in a Catholic highschool when this came out. Im 90% sure we took a field trip to watch this movie. I hated it.
Morti Mushy
Lol reading the comments have me slightly concerned so I’ll be the one Nondenominational Christian to say I saw the movie when it came out and I honestly didn’t really remember much. All I really remember was that in reality the specific premise of Christian students forced to do stuff like that? It’s a lot worse than just writing the words “God is dead”. I agree all Christian’s need to question their faith and really dig deep in theology on their own but the anti Christian theme on collage campus is actually insane. Gods not dead two, teacher sued for answering a question about Jesus. Yes it happens and coming from a family of Christian teachers it’s honestly terrifying how much you have to tip toe. Idk just my perspective since everyone else wanted to go down the Christian’s are bigots train 😅 But a movie I found much more interesting than Gods Not Dead was a case for Christ. From what I remember it was in the perspective of an atheist journalist trying to insist to his wife, who is Christian, that she’s wrong. I found his journey quite interesting in of itself and it’s a true story.
Doot Doot
This is an awesome podcast! I would definitely listen to all of these
Cass
Please let this be its own podcast!!!
Juno Parker
Podcast itself was great, but i gotta appreciate how Christerion Collection night genuinely be my favorite podcast name of all time
Megan Shively
this is swag
Shane Murphy
I absolutely loved this, Beth and Matt present a sensitive topic as down to earth funny conversation that rings alot of story real bells.
Shelbs
Please do more episodes!!! You guys could watch Miracles from Heaven or War Room :) also I would die for a veggie tales episode
Mr.Jorts
Reminds me of the stories my sisters had going to a bible camp and being told that our cousin was going to hell by one of the camp counsellors cause he wasn’t baptized
Abdelmelek
I demand, nay beg, nay genuflect! Please do more, the people need Christerion
renaeisgae
i love this! please do more episodes
Racing for Tips
Oh this concept totally has legs. I could see a Chapo/Christerion guest Movie Mindset episode. Get Will Menaker on this, he'd love it.
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Plz more
John Lyon
This was SO GOOD! Hope this becomes regular/would listen to film analysis about any genre
Mitch
I love this so much. You HAVE to watch Assassin 33AD it's the most batshit Christian movie ever made and also... surprisingly interesting?
Chris’s Secret 3rd Ball
Haven’t even watched yet but I’m requesting a minimum of 10 more episodes
Kuko Creations
Angels in the Outfield! Oh wow, haven't thought about that film in a while, but now that y'all mention it, I do remember seeing the trailer for it every time I watched the VHS copy of The Lion King.
James Lewis
No you won't need to watch the movie
Tris Winters
This is great! Please do more!
Risotto
Very fun and interesting! Never knew wild stuff like that exists :0 Also what a win to have another podcast with Matt!
Fia
This was super cool! Hope you guys do more
james carter
Next episdoe???
Imran
Haven’t listened yet- is watching the movie a prerequisite?
Matt
God loves evolution bumper sticker on my hemi Prius.
Daniel Atkinson
Had a great time with this.
Peydon Bush
This was so fun! Would love more episodes of this 🙂
Michael Hughes
This was really interesting to listen to, I’d love if y’all did more with this concept!
joe doe
This is absolutely a hit, definitely want more. Check out the popes exorcist, they straight up blame the inquisition on the devil which is a wild stand point and would love to hear yalls perspective
echo dek
Loved this, hope you keep it going!
Doyle Just Doyle
Need a Christerion Collection mainfeed ASAP, then a Cruciflix Patreon.
Zenabel
Love this!
Wesley Reagan
Please please please do more. As a progressive Christian who grew up around a lot of right wing fundamentalist insanity, this is so cathartic to listen to.
Greenbay97!
I was hesitant about this but this is an amazing project
Greenbay97!
More please
Kelly Kunze
Fireproof
Elisha Daniel
Totally grew up with the Newsboys, I may still have their CD buried somewhere. But Matt & Beth I highly recommend looking up their song "Breakfast" As an adult now it's just wild.
Ian Johnson
more plz
Kelton Hollister
I’m so obsessed with this podcast and I know a lot of other folks who would be so into this. So thoughtful and interesting. PLEASE continue with this podcast, and expand it!!
Mark Smith
Hahahaha right? They showed that in elementary school in Bible Class. Note it was a public school. Also we watched a movie explaining how George Washington was protected by God in history class. Had a bunch of miracles listed. It was nuts.
Josh Mangan
WOW Magee and Me. I haven't remembered that show in decades
Alexander Eby
This is incredible! More please!
Mark Smith
My dad was a Southern Baptist preacher when I was growing up. American Family Radio was in charge of our lives. Their headquarters were about an hour down the road, too. Tupelo, Mississippi. They did the Disney boycott until Chronicles of Narnia came out then bam it dropped. But yeah Veggie Tales, Magee and Me, Buttercream Gang -I think-, Gospel Bill, tons of Christian shows and movies.
Theodore Johnson
You can find it on YouTube!
logan jilek
This is very good and I would listen to this series
M Moreno
I was still a Christian kid when I watched this movie and I swear it started me on a road to questioning and eventually to non-Christianity. The Christian characters were so unlikeable and the non Christians were betrayed as evil monsters. It made my brain do a factory reset.
Bad Fiction
Just a few minutes in and gotta say this has some serious legs. Hope y’all continue it!
Ellen H.
Also came to the comments to politely demand Veggie Tales please! They were the basis of my catholic childhood 🍅🎶
Lavender
Please. Do. Veggie. Tales.
Esme Singer
This reminded me of when I was 12 and this movie came out and my Christian friends texted me, a Jew, god is not dead
Vivien Ling
grew up in an evangelical-adjacent cult and I'm so here for a new religious trauma comedy podcast
Jacob James
As an ex-catholic I burst out laughing at that joke while at work. Coworkers were so confused
StratoSpell05
Real
Austin L Hardee
As a philosophy graduate student, this conversation was simply splendid. Glad to hear us philosophers are so accurately displayed in media as tyrannical atheists, lol. Gotta say, radical christians love to misrepresent and weaponize the Nietzschean "God's Not Dead" passage.
Colleen
Wow loved this sm y’all! Your conversation was lighthearted and funny but also brought up some really great points about religion and religious people. Can’t wait for more!
Carmen Sterk
Such a good podcast! I’m in the same boat.
Sheila-la-la-la
Beth was right. Should have been Cruciflix 😂 Would totally subscribe to this podcast
Levi Jo
I have interesting thoughts on “morals with/without God”. As a current Christian who is nowhere near conservative.
Chrystopher Black
As a person with enough religious trauma to power a jet engine this was so true. My family raised me Southern Independent Baptist which is just a fucking cult
Hannah Gramson
I NEED this to be a full podcast.
Anthony Luch
As someone who grew up without any religion this is extremely insightful and interesting
Eric Willey
brb going to pray for an "Angels in the Outfield" episode.
William Cumpose
Ooh thanks for the reccs. I know what I’m doing with my afternoon
Gage Gibney
Check out “God Awful Movies” if you like this content
Jason
I LOVED this. I’m from a Catholic family but also went to non-denominational churches throughout my teen years, so this hits hard.
Rachel L
I WANT to share this with 100 friends but is there any way to access without asking them to become a Patreon supporter of an unrelated podcast they’ve never heard of (D&D)?
Rachel L
Will wasn’t on this one
Bethany
As someone who grew up in a fundamentalist christian household now trying to unravel all that, i loved listening to this! I would love to see more of this I'd listen to every episode
Collin Hoepf
Not at all what I expected but danggggg just had that feeling of finding something you didn’t know you craved, please make this a usual thing
Chase Payne
Please make this into a podcast
Glenn
The "lapsed religious person grapples with the weird culture they grew up in" genre began for me with the "Good Christian Fun" podcast, and I am delighted to hear more of it from people I already know are funny.
Maxwell Findling
Yes more yes
Rusty_Bell03 Bell
It's so weird coming from wendigoon talking about the story of faith and listening to this.
Mark Mayfied
Love this! I used to be super religious, so hearing this and hearing y’all discussion is very fascinating and therapeutic at the same time
Bex Boster
That's actually amazing. Subconscious mistake? 🤔
Bex Boster
Omg no but I wish I did. That sounds wild . Lol
Bex Boster
Omg yes! I am currently relistening through the first season and so I haven't looked at any new episodes in the last like 6 months. And I saw this pop up as a notification and I immediately came over to listen.
Michael Kurowski
I could listen to 8 more hours of this. As someone with no philosophy ed, I’d love a deep dive
Justthingstbh
This was great, loved the energy between Matt and Beth
Noah Benson
Super excited for this, hope you guys make more episodes. I remember being in high school feeling really grossed out when my cousin made me watch this movie with him, even though I took my christianity really seriously. It's interesting to hear you guys who actually know about filmmaking give language to some of the issues I had with it.
Dj Travioli
Someone's random veggie tales sounds pop into my head. Fortunately, it's usually pretty benign ones like "where is my hairbrush" or the Spanish/English one about how the tomato cannot dance like the cucumber.
Josh Mangan
This was really resonant with me as someone brought up conservative baptist. Really love how y'all address what's messed up while also examining why the movie works for a large audience.
Josh Mangan
Don't worry, PLENTY of people commented saying this when they brought it up on Teen Talk
Brett Owen
When this movie came out my youth group in church wanted to do a big lesson/watch party for it. They recreated the movie poster on a whiteboard, so black text for god, red for not, and black again for dead. BUT, they also wanted to have the showing be like a theater and set up some dramatic red lighting. so a bunch of teens walk into a dark red room with the words GODS DEAD bc the red light makes it hard to see the not. Irrelevant to the actual discussion here but it’s like the only fun I had relating to this film
What do we want, time travel. When do we want it. That's Irrelevant!
Not sure if you have listened to God Awful Movies which did this also
Gmork
That's where I first heard of Daddies too.
Denzel Casey
Courageous would be so fun to listen to them talk about lmaoo
Denzel Casey
I grew up religious but left when I was in 8th, I could always tell when my friends from my old church were watching the movie cuz I'd get like 12 texts saying "God's Not Dead" they'd watch it like every other week 😭
Theodore Johnson
Anybody else remember The Ride? The one from 97 about bull riding and Jesus!
Theodore Johnson
I feel you! Dad is still a pastor while I’m living my best bi life
ElliotGrapeEater
This rules
Faerunner
Im an atheist who grew up in a very Christian family and went to a private christian school and this movie and its sequel were required "texts" in my senior year Apologetics class. It's really nice to hear other people talk and laugh about how insane this movie is!
Niklas Starck Westerberg
Totally false. They threw him out as soon as they found out and reached out to his victims.
Jackson Schleppgrell
Love it
Oskar Schmerschneider
Absolutely love the discussion around this film. Me and my friends used to watch it a lot on weed back in the day to make fun people christians but I've been looking for a better discussion on its flawed logic. Also Matt and Beth are a great combo
Ash
This was so good!!
Andrew
Beth is really channeling Sarah Marshall with this and I love that for her
Michelle McCartney
I loved this. The catharsis is **chef's kiss**
Melevolent
Those guys covered up their lawyer being a sex pest for years until this past January then called his victims liars.
frankie why
Omg I was shown this movie in school! I can't wait to be healed 😔
Brodie Tumbleson
This is absolutely amazing! I would love to see further episodes of this!
Breo Padden
That would be amazing
hayley aleigh
Loved this!
Corva Cobb
More of this please! I could listen to these two talk movies for hours on end
Johnny Udall
Fascinating hearing Americans talk about this topic, where I'm from there is no real relationship between left/right and your religion. Politics and religion are distinct outside the US. We also don't get these Christian movies, going to have to track this film down 🤣
Atticus0w0
Love this! One of my favorite childhood memories involved this movie, because while watching this movie I found out I was allergic to pecans! God may not have been dead, but I for sure was. Can’t wait for more fun content like this!!
Josh & Nanni Westgate
Oh my God, please please please do Carraige us next absolute shit show of a movie
Caden Stovall
As a pastors kid this movie caused a freaking ruckus when it came out. I think my family watched it opening week
Jess
Such a fun podcast, I'd love to hear so many more episodes. Growing up southern baptist in an incredibly hostile christian home, this hits so good. Hearing your professional thoughts and your personal stories is so welcoming to me. I have hundreds of other movies I'd love to hear you do episodes on, good and terrible. Great stuff, thank you!
hopelesslyhanna
This was so fun and interesting, looking forward to more!!
JD Heisey
This was so fucking good and I need more. I would pay an amount of money entirely separate from what I pay from this patreon to hear you guys talk more about this kind of movie. Such a phenomenal podcast idea and I cannot wait for more 🔥🔥🔥
Zac Childs
I didn't know how much I needed to hear sane takes on this movie. Almost everyone I grew up with are the kind of people who love these movies. I love my family and they're all wonderful people, but I've always had to just shut up and pretend these movies are good to avoid having a lecture about my faith from my grandparents. I can't wait for more of these.
Catherine Bittar
Would listen to soo many more of these episodes if you make more!!
And Wentzel
mmm yes good podcast thank you
Evan Barrett
Starting my own knock off podcast "Blank Covenant" Great episode, really recommend the latest If Books Could Kill episode on "God and Man at Yale" that covers one of the origin books of contemporary fundamentalist anti-education writing
Eli
As someone raised christian who is unsure if I still believe in it, really really fantastic
Caleb Roberts
RM exmo 👆
MovieDefenders Podcast
I’m glad someone’s watching these so I don’t have to. :-) I like the perspectives you both bring to the analysis.
Kerro
ok i’m obsessed w this concept
Cameron Jones
As a heads up, I heard about this podcast from Eli bosnick who is 1/3 of God awful movies, I feel like a crossover would be super easy since he already knows about you as something g tells me the catalyst for this show was perhaps inspired by them.
Jade Rodriguez
Me, an ex jw
Wyatt rides
Hi I’m a recovering Christian, my jist of the whole thing, veggie tales is the best take away from it
BlackMario69
Oh fuck yeah
Max
I was given a copy of this movie for chrismas as a child, it was then used as a "gift for the family"
Mathilda
"Ex-episcopalian?" Bro, "expiscopalien" was sitting *right there!*
Doug Pike
Loving this concept. Have you heard of the movie Sunday School Musica?l
Collin Hoepf
So excited for these after Beth’s catholic priest joke last week
Alysha Knaphus
As an Exmo, I am LIVING for this! At some point u gotta watch some of the wacky ass shit the mormon church has put out. Maybe meet the mormons or once I was a beehive.
Emma Davis
So hyped for this!
Carlos Orjuela
I need to watch it, but then I'm really excited to listen to this!
Matthew Hansen
Omg I wanna recommend a movie for this it’s called Courageous or there’s another one called Facing the Giants
Ryken Wright
Me, an ex-Mormon: 😲🍿
JakeFrostick
Whose ready to relive their religious trauma?!?!
LayinBrix
So excited for the righteous and respectful review of this amazing film
William Cumpose
This is going to be good