Karbo
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EDIT 3 : into the hearth of the matter
🕑 Added 2018-12-10 10:12:21 +0000 UTC No replies to my messages so far. I'm putting that on the fact it was the week end...This is so wrong and messed up though. Locking an account just like that with no warning and no explanations; it's ruthless and show a lack of care for their customers I'm finding quite concerning.. Patreon wasn't like that when it started. For having been in contact with them a couple times at their debuts, they were very close to their creators. Seem like that part is a thing of the past now... sorry for ranting it's just such a rotten and stressful situation >>
I hope they get out of their silence today, I'll keep you up to date.
EDIT : Ok I got a reply by a board member. Not a very satisfactory one sadly. So my account was frozen for sexual violence ( unconsensual sex / underage sexualisation / incest / bestiality )... I asked which piece in particular was violating the rules but I'm still waiting for the response on that... The fact they didn't point to what was wrong even after several days is puzzling to me... I feel I got little more than a copy-paste message here.
But at least I got a reply. Hopefully It means we're nearing a resolution, although I'm guessing it will mean the Meralimexia comic will have to go.. ( after some thinking and browsing i feel it's what is being targeted here : / ). I will keep you closely informed about future developments.
EDIT2 : Second reply, still very vague.. The board member thanked me for removing the Mera comic etc etc.. , but said there were still problematic pieces qualifying as "sexual violence" WITHOUT telling me which. Seriously.......
I asked them to point precisely those pieces and I hope they give me a clear reply this time. That little guessing game they're playing is just wrong and disrespectful..
EDIT3: there has been some developments but I'm afraid they're not positive : /
So in the end, the reason of the freeze come down to the interpretation of a single ( and frustratingly vague ) line in the Patreon TOS. it's this one :
We also do not allow other fringe sexual fetish content, such as incest, necrophilia, or fetish content that is hard to distinguish from non-consensual sex.
The person handling my case seem to be fixated by many of my pictures falling into that non-consensual sex category because of the prey being shown clearly distressed, in fear, saying "no" etc... For instance she now pointed at the last page I uploaded of the Escape of the cow girl comic with the girl facing Bella's gullet and yelling in fear.
Needless to say I disagree with that interpretation that for a pred to eat a prey is the same as having sex with them >__>
I'm now pleading my case to them to put that point across that the giantesses are not looking at the act of eating small beings in a sexual manner and neither are the victims. I wrote them a long mail in that sense but that's going to be a battle...
Meanwhile I'm now starting to weigh my options going forward. Although I prefer to keep that discussion for in a few days, when we will have learned more about Patreon's intentions.
it's not a good situation and I'm losing some sleep over all this... However everything is not dark !
First thing is I'm not the first vore artist to go through this mess with Patreon. Those last few days several artists contacted me and -very kindly- shared with me their experience and what they did to solve the problem and it turns out there are options. Some of them are more complicated than others, some would require quite a bit of change but they do exist.
Also in the meantime I'm not inactive and when my account hopefully come back I will have a couple things to show you guys ;3
Comments
Karbo
Thank you !
Karbo
Yeah there are multiple options here. It's not the end fortunately ^^
Karbo
That site is going to become even more important yeah
Jertal
Wasn't there a recent gallery website that you posted recently? Why not use that to post your art?
Sleepingcats
Damn Normies
Yuan
A least there may a workaround the issue if Patreon wont budge on their stance.
Blue
I hope it all works out
Max
I get that vore is disturbing for those how dose not like it but who comes on your patreon and pays you to see content that they hates or get disgusted by it
Max
So you basically if you give content to people who likes it and gets the idea behind it is wrong and if it is manga style it's still wrong... I hate modern times
Karbo
I seriously hope it won't come to this but yes I'm looking.
Karbo
Don't worry, I will post it elsewhere ^^
Blue
Wtf patreon
Karbo
I certainly hope it won't come to this.. Although my confidence in Patreon is being seriously damaged here. It's less the fact they suspended my account than how it sounds they don't care at all >>
Karbo
yeah..
If it becomes too restrictive on here, let us know if you set up an alternative.
Bruce allen Hawkins
Guest its back to deviantart...dammit sorry this happened but you have warnings in your overview so anyone offended wouldn't look ...i dont know good luck my friend 😢
Nikern
And what will happen with this marvleous comic? :C
McKay
That sucks, what will you do if your current art violates their rules? Change art or move somewhere else?
Blue
Thats bs i like that comic
snake360
You can still do it , just doesn’t post it on Patreon
Karbo
: /
Karbo
ouais ils ont été rapides...
Karbo
yeah it seems almost systematic at this point. Same things for video games companies..
Karbo
yeah but sill.. it sucks.
Blue
Yeah it is messed up
Taiki Sensei
Il leur a pas fallu longtemps pour virer dans le côté obscur, à ceux-là !
Max
It's sad how this happening on many company's and websites they start think more on money and less on customers hope everything gose well and you get you account back
Ormmwar
Patreon got big, it gets harder and harder for them to go personal with every creator, same story as with old vs new Youtube
