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⚠️ I am moving to SubscribeStar and closing this Patreon account.
🕑 Added 2024-06-18 16:14:26 +0000 UTCUPDATED PLANS: ⚠️ Plans update: I will run this Patreon as a SECONDARY for a time
ORIGINAL POST:
MY SUBSCRIBESTAR PAGE: Contingency on SubscribeStar.adult
I'm sorry for all the disruptions lately - for the last five years doing this full time I've worked very hard to be super consistent - but I can't put this one off anymore.
I have been on Patreon for ten years. Ten years!
The Patreon of 2014 was a very different place than the Patreon of today (not just because the amorphous blob logo they use now is so much worse than the old one). Back then, Patreon was still new to the scene. They needed as many creators as possible to lay out a foundation for their business, so they rolled out the red carpet for NSFW artists, telling us it was a safe place to post and make money. Some of the foundation of this site will always be its early NSFW creators, even if they would rather not admit it now.
Nowadays there's only room for Visa and Mastercard on Patreon's red carpet, and they are constantly tightening their NSFW guidelines and deleting accounts without warning to keep their credit card daddies happy.
I don't hold any ill will toward Patreon. The last 5 years doing art full time have been the favorite years of my life so far, and the vast majority of it was thanks to all of you guys supporting me here. While it does sadden me to see Patreon become so hostile to NSFW creators in recent times, I understand they have grown far bigger than us and have their own business considerations to make.
That said - while I consider myself very lucky to have lasted so long on here, for a long time I've basically operated on the assumption that one of these days, I would wake up to find my account removed. I've been refreshed on that recently by a couple key things:
-While I was browsing my NSFW Twitter the other day, I happened to read about a recent case for another creator. They had posted a Mommy Dommy audio to their Patreon. Not the incest kind of mommy - just... mommy dommy. And their page was straight up deleted, with no warning. Patreon pointed to their guidelines, where 'mommy dom/daddy dom' are considered incest - sexual violence - and against the rules on this site.
Needless to say, I do not think I can operate on a site that thinks a porn character moaning 'daddy' counts as sexual violence.
-Last night, at 2 AM, I received my first moderation action since July 2019. A post was auto-flagged and hidden by Patreon. What was it, you ask? It was the June Free-for-All poll. That's right. For some reason, a text-only poll flagged their 18+ rule violation system. This seems like it was an automated action. I'm guessing Patreon has started using some kind of moderation AI to go over 18+ pages and latch onto certain keywords. I also assume if it happens to find enough violations, it will call for a human to review.
Between these two things, I had a moment of realization. I can either sit around waiting for Patreon to ban me - and they will - or I can leave and go somewhere that, for now at least, has much more consistent and kink-friendly rules. That place is SubscribeStar Adult.
Why not just wait until Patreon bans me, and raise support here as long as possible, you might ask? Well, I've noticed that Patreon has a funny habit of banning NSFW creators right before their payout, and keeping the money. Funny how often I read about that happening. Almost makes you wonder if it's deliberate!
So as of July, 2024, I will be deleting this page, after 10 years.
I'm honestly kind of happy to be moving to SubscribeStar. Maybe it's inevitable that someday their rules will change, too, and the same thing will happen. But for now it's going to be a much better place for me to do this.
I would love to keep making smut for you guys full time. If you'll consider following me to SubscribeStar, my plan would be to keep doing exactly what I've been doing, just over there instead. I would still work full time, six days a week, drawing the phattest of asses and lewdest of bully scenes for you guys. There would still be the weekly scene suggestions and polls. I would still work, long term, to learn animation and add that to my toolkit. I would keep the same Discord server, hopefully, and link it to SubscribeStar instead - but the art would be posted directly to SubscribeStar, since I don't need to hide it there.
I know it's a pain to move to a new site. I also know that SubscribeStar's friendlier attitude toward NSFW comes at a price - as far as I know, you have to link a bank account over there, and can't use credit cards. That's why they're not beholden to credit card companies' puritan rules. EDIT: A comment has corrected me that they take Visa.
If you don't decide to support me there, then just know that I truly appreciated each and every one of you for your support here. Like I said, as goofy as it might sound, the last 5 years drawing smut full time for you here have been the most rewarding of my life so far. It's done a world of good for me to spend every day drawing what I love to draw for an audience that supports it, and I've come to recognize and like many of you between the polls and the Discord. I'll often be working on something and wonder, based on a comment one or another of you has made, if they'll like this one.
This is a big decision for me. I almost changed my mind at the last second, but I've known this was coming for a long time and my gut tells me I need to take this by the horns instead of just waiting for Patreon to ban me. I don't know what's going to happen. If enough people follow me to SubStar, like I said, I'll keep doing this full time. If not, I'll make it a part time thing instead.
I'm canceling the poll this week. Sorry to the people who suggested some great ideas, but I'm going to need some extra time to get the SubStar ready and plan out my own IRL finances for next month, since I expect I'll need to rearrange things for a while.
This week I will still be finishing the weekly MILF Master commission, the public queue commission, and the graytone commission. Next week will be a normal week, and since it's the last week of the month, I'll be doing my original artwork slot for June - and the next poll will be on SubscribeStar for the first time, at the beginning of July. Assuming Patreon doesn't ban me, I'll keep posting the rest of this month's stuff to the Discord as usual, before closing the page.
I should point out that the MILF Master and MILF Tamer slots will be available on SubscribeStar as of July 1st.
Thank you guys again for supporting me here for so long. And despite everything I do thank Patreon for letting me earn money here as long as they did.
Hope to see you on SubscribeStar!
Comments
Contingency
Yes! I'll be adding MILF Master/MILF Tamer to SubscribeStar with the updated prices for July 1. Same timing.
noruliz
So the Changing of the new tiers will take effect on SubStar then?
Contingency
You're probably right. I thought about doing that today but didn't wanna bother so many people 😂 I guess after never @ing everyone in 5 years I can do it just once for this.
Ricky the little one
Recommend sending a blast out through your discord to let those that don’t check offen know as well
Trilljacker654
Don't worry I planned to on the first of july.
Contingency
I appreciate your support and appreciate you even considering making the move 🙏
Trilljacker654
I have been following you on here for some time but seems that I have to move again
doujin
It's ok, I understand your situation. And also gladly to support you there instead. No problem m8. Just only can't afford on both site. You are my only creator that i support regulary here anyway.
Contingency
Wait - I just realized the timing, actually there won't be another poll this month anyway! Since next week is the last week of the month. Sorry for the confusion. And sorry for less poll participation this month than usual due to the transition, but I think I needed to do this now to have plenty of time to move to SubStar by July. Hope you can understand.
doujin
Hope the transition go smoothly. I will support you there from next next month for sure. Keep up the good work mate.
Contingency
Oof I'm sorry man. There's only one more poll this month anyway for what it's worth, since the other remaining week of June will be my original artwork slot. If my page hasn't been deleted by next week's poll maybe I'll look into running the actual vote here too and just tally up both sites, for the one time.
doujin
So the poll next week wii be on substar only? even if patreon still active. I would love to support you there but it also charge instant there that i not have that much money to paid on both patreon and substar in same month. Sorry if it seem like i'm whining but my salary is not that much in my country.
Contingency
Have to think about that! Might just make a ZIP archive to share with the SubStar as an option, but I hope to keep the Discord server and link it to SubscribeStar, so it should all be available on there still.
Contingency
Thank you! I hope to keep the Discord as-is, just with SubStar integration instead, but I haven't decided whether I'll still post the art there or just on SubStar. Guess it wouldn't hurt to keep the backup by posting to both simultaneously.
KnellAshura
Wish you luck in the transition, naturally I'll be following you over as well 👌🏾.
DwarfDaddy
Will you be uploading all your old art on the substar or will it just remain on the discord?
Contingency
Hmmm I hope that's not a bad sign! But I guess all we can do is hope and roll with the punches. Appreciate you very much.
Contingency
I'm going to make the MILF Master and MILF Tamer tiers on SubscribeStar in the wee hours of the morning July 1st, just like when I was gonna change the prices here. It'll be the new prices I mentioned. As long as you keep an eye on the Substar page around then you should be able to grab the slot over there!
Tanker358
Oh, nevermind I see it at the end. Hope everything goes great! Already subscribed
Tanker358
Quick question, will posts still be on the discord as well or just on Subsribestar?
Jacobite
Completely missed it my bad
Lucius-Uros
You have my full support and I will follow you on Subscribestar after you finish your Patreon. FYI, Subscribestar takes VISA, I already have an account with them and that's how I pay.
Contingency
Added a link to the post!
mas151617
Hello! If we want to keep our tiers, do we just have to grab it first come/first serve? With the new price point too!
Sharkboybeast
Well I will be following you, and more power to ya for the move
Jacobite
Is the subscribestar link on Twitter?
