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Changes to speedpaint raffles
🕑 Added 2016-11-07 21:12:44 +0000 UTC Hello everyone,on saturdays stream one of our patrons made us aware of a change in Patreons terms of service which affects us.
It's nothing of major concern, so no worries.
The thing is, Patreon no longer allows raffles.
This means we can no longer do the speedpaint raffles as we used to do them in the past.
Since this affects the $20, $50 and $75 tiers, we figured we'd talk to you about it and find a solution together.
That's what this post is here for.
(my apologies, $30 tier can see this post too, due to technical limitations of Patreon, so it can't be helped, but please note that since this affects only $20, $50 and $75 tier patrons we're discussing this with patrons of those tiers, $30 tier please ignore this post)
We want to talk to you about a possible solution for this problem.
Several patrons suggested that $20, $50 and $75 tier patrons should be able to make suggestions for monthly speedpaints.
Afterwards we (Cres and Wolf) look at the suggestions and select a few, which we will put on vote for all $20, $50 and $75 patrons.
Why we think about selecting a few has the following reasons:
If we happen to include all suggestions, it's highly likely we're going to have more entries than patrons, and thus it might happen that votes are spread too thin.
Now if we narrow down the possible number of entries beforehand, it should be much easier to select 2 speedpaint suggestions as winners by having our patrons vote on the remaining entries.
I hope this makes sense?
As for the voting process, there's several possibilities for this.
One patron also suggested we could use Patreons "heart icon" (fav-button/like-button) to hold votes and prevent manipulation, as every parton can only "vote" once on a post.
This is actually quite a good idea.
The only problem would be that $30 patrons could vote on it too, because they would see the posts too since technical limitations of Patreon (despite them originally not being able to participate in the previous speedpaint raffles).
So unless there are objections to this, we could handle this months speedpaints and all future speedpaints like this.
By that I mean:
$20, $50 and $75 patrons (former "speedpaint-tiers") are able to send in suggestions for speedpaints.
We (Cres and Wolf) select a few of them, and put them on vote.
And finally $20, $50, $75 and $30 patrons as well, are able to vote on the speedpaints (via the heart/fav/like function) to select the two speedpaints that get drawn.
If there are any objections to this, please tell us why, and what you think would be a better solution.
Please note that our suggestion is in no way final, and that given your feedback, we might make even larger adjustments to this if necessary.
We would also like to settle on a solution within the next 7 days.
So we can't consider feedback that we get after the 7 day period, we hope this is understandable, and we apologize for the inconvenience caused by the change in the terms of use and our need to react to it.
Thank you very much!
P.S:
Yes, we're also removing the speedpaint "raffle" notice right away and replace it with a notice that the specific tiers are able to vote on which speedpaints get drawn.
Comments
Crescentia
yep, something around those lines was what I thought^^ (I just suck at explaining, haha xD) but thanks for suggestion that system =)
DARKSIDE WRAITH
you could always work it on a elimination basis. where you pick say four choices A, B, C, D and A and B win by vote, then next month you include idea C and D but then add two more choices from the next two patrons. meaning eventually every patron of the will get a chosen speed paint.
Crescentia
thanks for the suggestion^^ I always keep track of who did win a speedpaint in the past, so my thought on this was, that I'll continue with that. The text said that we will select a certain numer of suggestions for the vote, so I will take care of keeping it balanced^^ Like...is somebodys suggestion won a vote, next month won't include a suggestion from the same person. Something around those lines =)
SephirothKurisame
I have no troubles with this, but I have a little suggestion. If I have seen this right you have 21 patrons wich can make suggestions for speedpaints, so if we decide this with a vote it may be possible that some of us never get a speedpaint drawn, so my suggestion is that you make yourself a list ( in alphabetical order) with all of these patrons and you start let's say next month with the two on top of the list and the month after you choose the next two and so on. This way every one of us can at least get one speedpaint in twelve months.
Razgriz Gundam
Agreeable
Amelyea
Sounds good to me
