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1.140 [OLYMPIA ARC: END]

🕑 Added 2023-04-30 16:31:19 +0000 UTC

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Caylah Coffeen

This was not at all how I expected this book to end. On the one hand, we knew the tyrants would rip each other apart and everyone who got between them would die. But it seemed a bit strange the heroes would spend so long fighting them as their home was destroyed around them. Lefteris didn’t even try to find his kids, Anastasia already knew Sol’s true age, Kyno and Jason didn’t seem like they’d care so much if they ran for their lives, Scythas seemed to have changed in the storm, so why would he fall so back on his tyrant’s command. Elissa is the only one who seems like she’d just try to kill them in a mad frenzy even with the world burning around them. I’m sure they had other friends in Olympia, yet they just threw a helpless fit. I guess that was exactly Griffon’s point. You don’t have a better idea, you can’t stop this any more than we can, and all you want to do is argue about our respective ranks? Grow up and grow a pair already! Or perhaps I was hoping for a resolution. Griffon’s character arc for 2 books has been about his treatment of others and finally he comes clean, but rather than a satisfying reveal with good results, winning them over, it just felt tragic. Burning their hearts and lives away for their friends, just to be spat on and row away alone, just barely missing reinforcements. And then all the plot resets in book 3. It’ll be so disappointing if it takes half a book for there to be a pay off with these relationships. I can’t wait to see it though!

Caoimhín

Actually, we do know, because that has been stated explicitly. Each rank of cultivation grants a fixed amount of years to lifespan, and is equivalent to the ten ranks of the realm below.

Amo

I really like that out of all the heroes, it's Scythas and Jason that advanced. Especially Jason. Also Alex immediately showing himself to be way more like Lio than Damon ever was.

Jacob Kopczynski

I doubt it. We don't know that the increase in lifespan is additive, rather than multiplicative. I think it is not; one more rank as Philosophers will get them years, but not decades, let alone centuries.

Caoimhín

True. I agree with all of you, it's just that I feel like maybe the wording could have been less ambiguous and state clearly how it is a heroic action he is performing, but it fits the nautical theme of Jason. Jason's ascension also reinforces the point that Griffon has realized since they came back from Thracia, that the trio that Solus "claimed" has been improving while the trio that Griffon claimed has been deteriorating, proving that Solus's influence has been a positive thing for them, while Griffon has just hurt them and chased them away with the way he acts.

Red Kite

I think it was also a result of Solus trying to show that A) You don't need a Muse to perform a Heroic Action (Jason lost his), and B) Allow for Jason to prove himself to be better than he thinks he is. It's appropriate that the first two of the Heroes to ascend are the ones that all the others wrote off as Cowards.

Caoimhín

Not really, they just have to level up once more as Philosophers, and that alone would give them one thousand years of lifespan.

Yiphen

So... they have a year to become heros, or die trying? Gl hf

Caoimhín

It seems like Anargyros was the previous heir of Alexander, just like Griffon is now. Or at the very least, Anargyros got Alexander's blade somehow during his Epic Journey with his brothers. And indeed, Griffon is on his way to making real the golden-bright world that Dyonisus's next life will be in.

Stultus

hello again, i promise im not targeting you, you just have interesting questions and things to discuss. In this scene, it's tragic victory to my eyes. Jason redeems himself with heroic sacrifice, conquering his heart demons and fear, becoming a true hero. And in doing so, I think, lives on. Probably. I hope. I'm not wise enough to properly read the implications that Striker weaves in so well.

Stultus

I have a distinct feeling that Anagyros and Alexander are one and the same. Or something along those lines. Supposedly the blade was Griffon's uncle Anagyros' blade. Yet when he drew it, Alexander appeared, and named him heir. This is a passing of a torch in a way. The old giving to the new. Which is exactly what nobody else in this tarnished world is doing. Tyrants sit and plunder endlessly, devouring and devouring to feed endless yawning desire. Heroes kneel beneath Tyrants, submitting to their power. Philosophers seek no truth, content with the shadows on the wall. Griffon is fighting to make this world a better place, and particularly, fighting against the way the old institutions and old figures of the past cling to the present and the future.

Luciaron

Wow that was a doozy, definitely going to need a few re reads to make sure I caught everything.

Young Youghurt

In context of his previous failure to do so and his brokenness because of it, it is a glorious redemption. I don't see a problem with subverting that phrase/casting it in glorious context as this story is quite allusional? Idk but meaning is not set in stone my passionate heart wouldn't stand for a world like that! ;)

Pope John XII

This was everything I was hoping for.

Caoimhín

Yes, but it also means that the captain dies when the ship is sunk. So it is a heroic action, but it's a heroic sacrifice. I think it could be rephrased as something indicating his success. The phrase is used in both the figurative sense (as in, the captain is the last to leave the ship, after he has gotten everyone to safety, but he does leave the ship) and the literal sense (the ship is sinking and the captain stays and sinks with it and thus dies). In fact, if you search for the phrase, the Wikipedia page shows examples of captains going down with their ships, and it refers to the captains dying.

Ghlow

It sounds more like a heroic action to me as the original phrase "A captain goes down with the ship" represents responsibility to save the crew or die trying, e.g. titanic.

Caoimhín

"JASON GOES DOWN WITH THE SHIP" sounds so sad, it actually kind of sounds like a failure rather than a Heroic action. Shouldn't it be something like "JASON DIVES IN FOR HIS CREW" or something along those lines?

Jordan Tucker

Jason proving he is best boi

Caoimhín

An ancient Aetos. Maybe the founder of the line? The ruby necklace that Griffon took from one of the Statues of the Aetos Ancestors in the filial pools of his family's states reacted to the presence, so it's definitely an Aetos. He also called Griffon "descendant of mine"

NomiNomi

An awesome end to the arc, well done.

Wyatt

The most epic thumbs down that will ever be

Rayyyn

Allexander

Thewizzardpineapple

Ghost Apollo?

Dro

"The dawn breaks..."

Snakee

This arc is done, congratulations! This fight reached its conclusion and griffon has finally cried, and Jason ascended. I wonder who that apparition is and how things are gonna go from here. But now, it’s epilogue time.

Sam Baker

Tftc


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