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The Delta Flyers - DS9 Fascination 310 Audio

🕑 Added 2025-01-20 05:00:08 +0000 UTC

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Anita DiCastri

I've always enjoyed this episode. I'm with Robbie on this one - it was fun and that made up for a lot of the potential flaws. One thing that did occur to me while listening to the recap, which I've never thought of before, why was Quark affected by Lwaxana? It's been established in previous episodes that Betazoid telepathy doesn't work on Ferengi because of the structure of their brains. If the writers had remembered that, poor Armin wouldn't have had to fall in love with Keiko. 😉

Elias Nordling

This episode COULD have ben fun. It is occasionally funny, but it is also so TEDIOUS. It is just someone gets a headache and then start to hit on somebody else over and over again. Individually the scenes might be funny, at least some of them, but as a story, it goes nowhere and then it's over.

Elias Nordling

This.

Ryan

Starting to see a bit of a theme that Avery Brooks episodes aren’t popular?

Marcy Beard

When Keiko didn't come out of her room to talk to Miles, it made me wonder who was in there with her? Only because of all the other unusual attractions of the day. Glad that wasn't the reason! I'm with Armin, not a fan of this episode, but I've certainly seen worse.

BallparkDude

No worries. I figured scheduling conflicts. I love the Delta Flyers! Thanks for all you do!

Garrett

Sometimes we have to make decisions based on schedules and who is available.

BallparkDude

Bummed that Terry didn’t do this episode instead of Armin. Terry for sure had more to do in the story than Armin did.

BallparkDude

I love how Robbie and Garrett overall enjoyed the episode and Armin didn’t…..I for one actually really enjoyed this episode.

Catherine Green

I know we sometimes think the guys would understand the background better if they’d seen more TNG, but this time I am grateful they thought Leaxana’s illness was like the Betazoid menopause. Nobody tell them about the actual Betazoid menopause episode. They don’t need to know about that 😬

Trevor Yan

I appreciated the thoughtful criticism in this week's review, for an episode that merits critiques but is still fun! The Shakespeare comparisons and insights from Prof. Shimerman shed new light on the writing and performances.

Jeffrey Byrne

The whole exchange is like “Oh it wasn’t just random, that’d be creepy if Lwaxana could do that. No everyone had a latent attraction. But don’t think about it too much. There we go, all is right now, nothing else to worry about”. It’s like they went out of their way to make it not one person forcing other people to make out against their wills.

Elisabeth Westner

I'm curious how the heck Bashir even knows that? Did he do psych evals for everyone? Or is this something that's been established by past medical research? How the heck would *anyone* have figured it out, though? #suspicious

Elisabeth Westner

Well color me surprised that Robbie actually enjoyed this episode! I was amused that he did find a lot of fault with it, but I agree that although it's got some really bad stuff, it's also got some fun humor. I tend to side more with Armin on this, though, that it's a pretty bad episode overall. Love Robbie saying that he's noticed that when someone coughs onscreen that mean they're going to die. Yup, I've noticed that too, coughs onscreen = dying of consumption. (It's actually a TV Trope: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IncurableCoughOfDeath. Side note: Riker's Beard is also a TV Trope.) The one exception to this I've noticed is on Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman, where the character played by Johnny Cash - spoiler alert! - coughs a lot and is diagnosed with consumption but his character comes back for several episodes and stays alive the whole time. I'm curious what the union rules are about musicians onscreen. I'm a classical musician and it's exceeeeeeeedingly obvious when someone is fake-playing a string instrument onscreen, such as Brent Spiner on violin and Colm on cello in TNG. Is there an exception that if it's a main cast member that is suddenly established to play said instrument, it's okay that they are not a musician's union member? (I tried to look this up but wow I don't have time to wade through all that legalese!)

Andre Perry

It also aded a bit of depth to each character. For me I look at everyone just a little differently by the end of the ep. And to me that was intriguing.

Andre Perry

I’m really bummed they didn’t like this episode I loved it! The only thing for me that was hard to grasp was seeing Bareil without his spiritual Monk centeredness persona instead traded in for a horndog persona was hard to believe. It was like being asked to imagine Dukat drunk at a party dancing on a table with the punchbowl on his head! It would shatter the characters image and credibility thats what happened to Bareil but I still enjoyed this ep very much!

Jeffrey Byrne

I think the latent attraction aspect is there so that they didn’t make Betazoids capable of basically hypnotizing people into falling in love. That gets a little creepy

sgtb99

Mardah is not a loser, she went to a great school!

sgtb99

Mardah is not a loser, she went to a great school!

sgtb99

Theme: “Drowning in the sea of love where everyone loves to drown.” - Stevie Nicks

sgtb99

Quark is responding to the lady in red! Come on again guys! Hilarious!

sgtb99

The fight scene was hilarious and it was meant to be hilarious come on guys!

sgtb99

Keiko in the red dress was an entrance! Definitely why she was not seen in the previous scene. She looked spectacular! Surprised at the bewilderment.

sgtb99

Jadzia & Sisko have chemistry.

sgtb99

Right out of the gate, the negativity. This is a fun episode done well despite Philip Anglim’s wooden performance. I was laughing all the way through this episode. A light, funny Star Trek episode is wonderful coming out of the heaviness of previous episodes and going into another two part heavy episode. I loved seeing our wonderful cast do comedy! They all looked STUNNING in their festival clothes. Always lovely to see Lwaxana. Avery Brooks had wonderful movement of the camera . I enjoyed this episode!

Rudy Gonzalvo

I see it now. Thanks!

Gary Alexander

Similar to Majel being a social link between the Trek casts, she went on Babylon 5 to help bury the hatchet on the drama at the time too. Really good scenes for her with Peter Jurasik and Stephen Furst (RIP). We never joke about prophecy!

Garrett

We stayed up last night to make sure it published to the RSS feed and it has not so we reached out to Patreon again and tried a few things and it did eventually show up. But it seems like it went away again. So I have tried to get it to publish again and hoping it shows up. Patreon is having some sort of glitch with the RSS feed and we have done everything we can to provide them with information and get it working again but we are unable to do anything ourselves. The option to listen with the Patreon app is always an option until they can get things fixed on their end.

Garrett

Helen B

Same here, I'm still not seeing it on Spotify

Sebastian Goettling

Hmm... Last week's Patreon/RSS feed problem seems to be recurring. "Defiant" did pop up in my podcatcher eventually after a few hours, maybe because you reached out to Patreon, but "Fascination" is still AWOL. As I'm using an independent podcatcher, I'd appreciate it if the feed could go back to "business as usual". Thanks for all the great work, Sebastian

Rudy Gonzalvo

I’m on Overcast. Don’t see it there either. The RSS feed might not be updated yet.

Andrew Cano

This is one of those “bad” Star Trek episodes that doesn’t bother me, although I agree the execution failed the story. While I know the nitpicking is bothering some, I thought most of it was on point this episode. I just think too much was made of the plausibility of some of the latent attractions. We all have some attraction, conscious or not, to friends, colleagues, authority figures, and even adversaries that we do not act upon. The only one that didn’t track was Quark-Keiko. If it would have been a more serious episode, I think Julian-Keiko would have been a much more interesting twist. Finally, I couldn’t agree more with the praise for the Miles-Keiko story. The working relationship between Colm Meaney and Rosalind Chao must have been incredible to be able to so accurately all aspects of a marriage.

Andrew Cano

I agree. This is DS9’s twist on TOS’s The Naked Time. Unlike TNG’s The Naked Now, we’ve come to know the characters, helping the zaniness land better. What hurt the episode a lot was Philip Anglim’s stilted performance. I know he produced a strong body of work over his career so just wonder if Bareil just wasn’t a good fit character-wise for him. Regardless, I thought the reveal of Lwaxana’s Betazoid menopause being the cause of everything was handled poignantly. It’s too bad the character did not get a formal farewell before Majel Barrett-Roddenberry’s passing.