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Chapter 525 unedited unmemed

🕑 Added 2019-11-06 01:49:38 +0000 UTC

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Rene Christensen

Delicious chapter. It seems to me that neither the defiled nor the imperials are actually in balance. The imperials focus too much on restraint and suppression, thereas the defiled/ chosen (newly defiled) are far too unrestrained, controlled by their emotions and the spirits. One possible reason that neither the defiled nor the chosen can reach balance is that strong emotions are required (defiled path) to attract and gather sufficient heavenly energy, but you also need the restraint of the imperial side to control said heavenly energy and keep the spectres from controlling you and leading you astray (that may be their purpose, to prevent anyone from breaking through and ascending by misleading them with halftruths and false paths). Only when in balance can you form a spiritual heart and become a true divinity.

Rene Christensen

Really? We get confirmation that the chosen are in fact cannibalistic murderers meaning that they are defiled with better branding, one of the main opponents turns into a demon and we are told better than half the chosen are dead. Of the auxillaries an even larger percentage. Worldbuilding is hardly pointless.

Atlas Dwarf

It isn't or at least in the way the Uniter and Confessor goes about it. Both are too reliant on manipulating and compromising with spectres rather than making Heavenly Energy a true part of themselves.

Atlas Dwarf

Maybe the potential limitation has to do with embracing foreign Heavenly Energy to change ones body. It would help explain why Zhen Shi's main body is still a Demonified mess rather than a sparkling Divinity.

CentaureHeart

I'm going to be really annoyed if True Balance and the way to get to Divinity is what all those murder hobos are describing. The most compelling fact against it is that Zhen Shi has been at it for 600 years, you would think if this was the magic formula he would have conquered the Empire way before that

I might switch the two around, have GJ first then Rain. It would take some finagling tho..

EndlessTurtle

Bear arms, it's happening

Malcolm Tent

I dont think he got accepted by the heavens man, I'm pretty sure he just became a demon. It wouldve been a much bigger deal if he had become the first human divinity (which i suspect you cant do without a spiritual heart) and he would be more than a match for the abbot if he had ascended. That does lead to interesting questions about how divinity and demonization are related to each other though. Maybe you need a spiritual heart to house your consciousness when you transform because the conversion is literally warping and changing your brain, without the heart to protect your consciousness maybe the ascension process warps your spirit when it warps your physical body.

This chapter has really got me excited and thinking now. Goujian’s transformation has really shed light on the whole ascension to divinity thing. Now we know that in order to become a divinity we need true balance to properly manipulate HE. This’s been heavily foreshadowed and I’m pretty everyone’s already come to this conclusion a good while back, but now it’s finally been confirmed and we’ve finally got to witness the transformation in its entirety and I can’t help but think about how Rain is going to go about it. We all know Rain’s been going about his cultivation in a pretty unique way because of his lacking theological beliefs and his need for complete understanding. All the divinities and peak experts we have come across all achieved their power through heaven’s acceptance. They would embrace the mother and restrain their emotions, listen to the father and succumb to their emotions, walk the razor’s edge by embracing but controlling those emotions, or through accepting yourself and your emotions. It would be then that the heavens would accept you and impart the necessary knowledge. This was evident through Goujian’s transformation. He finally came to understand the Uniter’s words and properly walk the razor’s edge and the heavens opened up and taught him how to fully manipulate HE. He achieved true balance and the heavens accepted him. Since this story’s power system revolves completely around visualization, intent, and understanding, I’m really curious how Rain is going to go about it. It’s pretty much a given that he is going to make the transformation himself soon, he’s already or is extremely close to achieving true balance through self-acceptance but he’s completely rejected the heavens. And that’s what has got me really excited. Back when he formed his domain he came to the conclusion that the heavens rejected him so he would come to reject them as well. Instead of becoming one with the world he instead took a part of it himself. He claimed ownership over a portion of the heavens, something everyone else worshiped and believed to borrow. His very perception and understanding of HE are fundamentally different from the rest of the world. And this has got me excited. Where understanding and visualization is everything, and Rain is blaspheming the heavens thinking differently I'm curious and excited. Is his transformation going to be different because of this? Is he going to be weaker or stronger? Is he going to become something different entirely? Is he going to be forced into it? Or is he going to naturally come into it? I’m just fucking excited to finally see these heaven-defying bear arms. Goddamn.

Sean Austin Gartland

Not really. The fat monk is kinda silly. A former drug addict might understand addiction better yes but that doesn't necessarily make his understanding of righteousness better. I mean if you do stuff like that you gotta be wary of making excuses for yourself and it's less time spent doing the right thing. This is assuming you eventually stop doing it as well which isn't really a guarantee.

wanderer117

I liked it, a first person perspective on the results of Rain and Hongji work. Also support for the idea that Rain's body strengthening techniques are super rare as Goujian has probably eviscerated on the order of ten thousand humans with none exhibiting the increased muscle density that Rain possess.

wanderer117

Do we? Rain healed from a similar burnt husk to functionally with just HE, no obvious intake of physical matter. If anything he created additional matter in the form of a sphere of water around himself. Energy to mass conversions are much more impressive than energy being used to rearrange existing mass.

Tyrell Facey

Once again we see growth from one of Rain's greatest enemies.Gen was a disappointment but Goujian is definitely filling his role nicely. I'm pretty sure there are some major limitations in possessing another person's body one of which I'm guessing is a complete stunting of growth without the original in charge.

Arnon Parenti

And now we know how Rain can heal himself in the blink of an eye, still I would bet on him taking a longer road somehow.

Gardor

Gotta say, going from "Rain explodes an army and Divinities getting ready to fight" to "side character few people are interested in thinking about his past and healing" doesn't seem like the best idea to me.

Boredwayfarer

Huh. Felt like an empty pointless chapter


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