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Chapter 515

🕑 Added 2019-10-08 23:52:38 +0000 UTC

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Thenais

animals do not need to meditate -> taduk and lin are ancestral beast :p

wanderer117

I don't think humans suck at getting HE through eating, I think eating helps substitute for the inferiority of Chi to HE. TLDR: Chi is energy, HE is energy and mass so eating lots of extra food helps make up for the disadvantages of Chi vs HE. If we look at healing with Chi vs healing with HE, Chi uses the physical resources present in the body being healed. HE can heal a body without using the body's physical resources, eg Nian Zu was a desiccated husk with a body mass to low to fix the damage he had suffered but with a HE infusion he was not only returned to full health, he was healthier then he had been for years. Energy is mass, so theoretically since Chi is energy with enough Chi you should be able to mimic anything HE can do even though HE also has mass. But, and this is a big but, the amount of Chi that can be held in a natal palace is much smaller than the amount of HE that can be held in a natal palace. Rain’s core pre imperial conclave was at or below the size of a peak expert. Taduk, who is at least a peak expert (my money is on Ancestral Beast, but not all signs point that way), does not have enough chi in his core to heal someone without using their body's resources. We can therefore assume that Rain’s core could not hold enough Chi to heal someone without using body mass. Yet Rain held enough HE in his smaller core to create, on the order of, 10kg of mass. That implies that HE has orders of magnitude higher density then Chi. Supporting this we later see that as Rain gathers more and more HE in the wooden chalice in his natal palace the chalice never grows in size or overflows even though it is implied that the size of things in the natal palace is correlated with the amount of Chi / HE they contain.

lol, I mean, if you met a giant chicken, wouldn't you wonder how it tastes?

Atlas Dwarf

It could be that when you kill and eat something you take in its claimed Heavenly Energy. However that Heavenly Energy is still 'tainted' with the essence/will, like the spectres, which makes it more like a greater version of Chi. That might explain why Elemental Spirits, such as Blobby, can help make Ancestral/Divine Beasts when they'd massively speed up the process of cleansing consumed Heavenly Energy. Also could explain why the monks are so deadset on killing and consuming meat as being harmful to oneself.

wanderer117

I'm not sure Kukku can affect Rain. Rain has been showing resistance up to immunity to many chi skills that affect the mind / emotions.

Kukku is the keyyyyyy! If Kukku forces people not to sleep, but into their natal palace and then has them put like an “overlay dream” of what they desire, then if Kukku can put Rain to sleep and they can channel heavenly energy into him like they would do for healing, he may be able to form his core by hand, because the problem is he cant get there on his own or affect his core while awake, but if he knows hes asleep and under kukkus influence, and it keeps him there, it could work. Or it could still kill em. Idk. My moneys on the chicken

wanderer117

I'm just spitballing here but the abbot talks as if there is only HE and Chi, but in the past Rain has hypothesized about other types of energy, including demonic energy. Blobby ate specters but left HE behind. Blobby also excretes HE into the world crating spiritual hearts out of rocks after sufficient exposure. Plants (and probably rain's pets) forming cores when exposed to Divine poop may also imply additional types / combinations of energy. At one point Mila mentioned that Blooby (or his equivalents, Rocky, Breazzy etc) are an essential ingredient for nurturing an Ancestral Beast. Chi = HE + Self energy Specters = Demonic Energy + HE Stuff + HE = Spiritual Hearts Blobby = Divine energy? = Specters - HE + ??? HE = Father Energy? + Mother Energy? Animal w/ spiritual heart + sufficient Chi Tea = Divine Animal? Animal w/ spiritual heart + Blobby + ??? = Ancestral Beast Divine Animal poop + Plants / Animals = Plants / Animals w/ cores This all feels very circular, but maybe with missing / mislabeled links in the circle. Spiritual Plant eaten by spiritual animals. Some spiritual animals form spiritual heart and store / use Chi+ or HE. Some spiritual animals become divine animals. divine animal poop fertilizes new spiritual plants.

wanderer117

Are we sure Rain isn't hearing the specters? "Then again, if she can get Heavenly Energy from what she eats, maybe I could feed her Kukku... Better yet, I could eat Kukku, batter him up and make some Kentucky Fried Spiritual Chicken." Why would Rain want to feed the newest contender for most comfortable mount in existence to Ping Ping? On the other hand the specters and or the Unifier would want him to alienate the brotherhood and remove one of the more powerful guardians around him. Those thought are also in separate paragraphs, a formating clue that has been used in the past to indicate thoughts coming in from the outside.

ThePolarParadox

So Im guessing the creature that antagonizes Kukku (Rashasa iirc) is the same one Abbot fed corpses to.

Atlas Dwarf

Huh thought Martial Warriors ate so much cause of how little Heavenly Energy their food contained, not that they sucked at getting Heavenly Energy through eating.

Tyrell Facey

Wow Rain is going to be extra Stronk when fixes his core because of that tofu


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