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Chapter 819 - Nevermore: A Whole Lot of Mana

🕑 Added 2024-01-02 11:58:26 +0000 UTC

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Bryan D

No one mentioned that the System called Jake the “Harbinger of Primeval Origins” instead of Heretic-Chosen. I suspect his power (I refuse to say ‘JJ’. :) will be about ungrafting early races from records. I can’t think how this might be helpful to Viily’s family unless those structures are status-prisons for the pieces still alive.

loco

Confidense hehe

DirePants

I think you beat your record for number of uses of the phrase “Jake Juice” in one chapter… for some reason I feel dirty.

Hunter Thornton

Ok pretty sure this one is gonna break Nevermore’s brain. Also Mera is sad. All her Jake Juice got used up………. Again

Michael Meyer

oh right thanks

Samantha Sandlin

It had been pink and purple...looks like the pink may be becoming red

T

Purple for stable red for destruction?

JJB4345_80_815

He can't. The perception marble is so laced with void that fully ingesting it would drive him insane. That's one of the main reasons that he has to lick it (other reason is he'd cap out his perception stat too quickly with Palate of the Malefic Viper).

JJB4345_80_815

Huh! I don't remember that small detail so now I have to reread it, but excellent catch! I was thinking about the secret message given by the Benevolent Monk/Soulfist Daolord in the Colosseum when he called Jake a Harbinger and wanted him to further develop his arcane energy and hinted at it being more... The plot thickens!

JJB4345_80_815

I concur! I've missed my Path of Ascension fix and my Defiance of the Fall fix so thank you for fixing...err...umm... entertaining me during this dry period!

JJB4345_80_815

Great minds think alike, though it took me reading a post from John Henderson to even contemplate on that while you figured that out sooner than I did and without help. Kudos! I'm jealous 😁

JJB4345_80_815

I wonder what would happen if he used the marble on his boots?

SmokeJam

Only an immortal energy marble as long as nobody too grown up plays with it xD

SmokeJam

Purple is cooler than red though. Everyone can do red...

JJB4345_80_815

If Perennial leans more to botany, can you imagine the reaction Dana/Nature's Attendant and maybe even Artemis would react to it? I can just see him giving Artemis one of his marbles casually like a boyfriend giving his girl flowers and she just starts flipping out!

JJB4345_80_815

John - I love your definition of Perennial. Thank You! I am thinking of a few other uses based on your thought process. Can it be used on Villy's family/obelisk??? Can it be used on the First Sage? Can it give either a rebirth!? Is this following the path recommended when the Benevolent Monk/Soulfist Daolord spoke about furthering his arcane energy while in the Colosseum of Mortals? Remember how Eversmile used an item from Yggrasdil to re-alive the metal mage? Did he just create something similar? So many possible avenues to consider...

JJB4345_80_815

Oh, I believe that he REALLY wants to find out more about the First Sage so I don't think that he'll forget THAT. Can't wait! (Especially since I believe that since Villy absorbed The First Sage's records AND Jake has a drop of Villy's blood AND First/Primal/Origin is a big thing for both characters I think that has allowed a weird resonance that transcends eras between them).

JJB4345_80_815

Kyle - Do you remember which chapter mentioned the God Level of Nevermore? I can't remember that at all. I DO remember that there's an S-grade level, cause when Villy first re-emerged from his isolation he sent those S-grades to Nevermore. It's more so I can go over info I obviously disregarded and I hate forgetting/miss-remembering stuff.

Radzig

i love all the comments going "eat it" LOL

Numbzy

It mostly like means that the orb won't leak energy, thus the orb will be enduring for Eras as long as it's not tampered with.

Michael Meyer

and what about the perception marble also with palate

Tyler S.

Perennial Affinity has a nice ring to it but that could be because Primal Affinity has been expected from the beginning. The name gives some different connotations to his more primal destroy/stabalize. I do believe it is about time his affinity grew deeper concepts

Andrew P

If he ate the marble with palate, would he get insights from it?

Ty Cooper

That would be crazy if the Fallen King took it like one of his orbs. What would happen?

Shaine K.

Gotta love that Jake Juice

SmokeJam

well perennial means something like eternally, infinite, eons lasting. So I'd say it means that this marble could survive for eras to come if left alone, with no leaks of the energies inside. In that regard I'd rate it as a vastly precious treasure with a lot of limitations, being made by a C-grade.

SmokeJam

That was the thing why sim-Jake couldn't stay either way, remember?

Bobby B

Agreed. I think it will be exception. Of course we may never know if the Architect keeps it…

Ian Allen

I would think it would be a reference to the recurrent part of the definition of perennial, in that Jake juice has been used to create creatures consistent with their related primal origins (causing that origin creature--or at least an aspect of it--to exist again)

Jake C.

It's a wonderful joke imo and makes me giggle each time for some reason...

Bobby B

TFTC. I only have one question. What is a perennial existence!?!? Is it a long lasted entity? Or a reoccurring one?

Justin

He's gone anyway after Jake leaves the challenge dungeon. Temlat and his "world" are just snapshots for Jake to play with or ignore while in this dungeon. Arnold/Dina/SS/etc ould all have their own Temlat too rn for all we know.

Jeff McCulley

I kinda feel like Jake should go ahead and make two more Creations…then just let Temlat wander back into his own world. Because Chaos would ensue…and the Architect isn’t likely to let him go back after he’s “turned in”, is she?

Oni no chi

Did you guys remember during his fight with the war god in the Colosseum he's arcane energy turned redish kind of like the energy inside the marble of Mana so my theory is this is used hrs true arcane power it's only purple because he's still missing an element of it which I think is emotion

sam

It sounds so weird when you say Jakes juice lol

Kyle Pemberton

I figured it would be called Primal affinity.

Kyle Pemberton

There is a god grade of Nevermore. We saw it in some of the side story chapters on Patreon. But I don't know if the Primordials have ever done it.

Micah Molina

Yes it's reaching, but lines up theoretically as of this chapter. It's more about the fun predictions. More of a compliment to Zogarth, that he's both a great writer and even bigger tease with the details. He's so good!

Tommy

As fantastic an idea as this is…. Tbh I think it’s all just training and I really doubt it’s anything more. But it would be exciting to be proved wrong

James Faulkner

Tftc!

Ral

A lot of people want Jake's bloodline but they don't know how prolific the Jake Juice is.

Nate Oppy

That was just so cool

Mownmbasa

Happy New Year Zogarth! I have to commend you on something. I was pleasantly surprised to receive chapters between Xmass and NY and also a new chapter already on the 2nd. All of the other writers i subbed to have taken a full break for like 2 weeks but Patreon went ahead. So even though you are not obligated to do it i still very much appreciate it and add to that that this is now officially my favorite novel for a year it's all great. Awesome chapter as always and have a wonderful new year!

Silent Otter

Hot Take: Perennial energy/existence stuff is how Jake is gonna help Villy bring back his family.

Robert Davidson

He created a dose of immortality?

Micah Molina

Correct, Temlat can not come out thru Jake's portal. But he can go back thru to his own world. If my crazy idea that the worlds that you can visit in the House of the Architect are in fact not images, but a System controlled ongoing event that links the real 2nd Universe during its own integration to Nevermore, which was also created in the 2nd Era btw. Then, Temlat is real and can go back home, become a god, and hopefully lives long enough to have a reunion, eventually, in the 93rd Era. If correct, then Jake could even play a role in Nevermore's creation, in a similar way. Since it would mean, the House of the Architect has a open portal to the real 2nd Era's time.

Jamie

But isn't nevermore a self contained dungeon space? I doubt telmet can travel outside of it and will cease to exist once jake leaves right?

john henderson

I sure hope not, Relentless Hunt of the Avaricious Perennial Hunter sounds like some HGTV competition, Penetrating Perennial Arrow of Horizon's Edge, Perennial Curse Manifestation, Perennial Powershot, etc. It's a really neat word for a title, but at this point Jake's skill screen is so littered with the word arcane, whatever he decides to replace it with is going to have to be a very flexible word.

john henderson

That wouldn't really make much sense contextually. The arcane affinity is purple, the spots of red inside seem to indicate the physical representation of Jake's origin energy, especially because its reminiscent of the drops of the Viper's blood that Jake has. The arcane structure here is simply responsible for protecting what's inside, and if anyone tries to snatch it without Jake first opening the marble, it will explode leaving no trace. Furthermore, it wouldn't really track with the universe so far if Jake could just spit out his arcane affinity and swallow it back up to become stronger. I may be wrong on this point, but I don't think his affinity ever actually changes, I think he just deepens his understanding of it and is able to utilize more of it the stronger he gets. Plus I think arcane affinity is the generic term, and he's just been too lazy to name his anything so far, plus too weak for it to be relevant due to his personal strength.

john henderson

I don't think we can exclude the possibility that "Jake Juice" is a transplant not just from Jake's records, but from his actual soul, which then takes time to regenerate. Personally, I think that life as "The Primal Hunter" would be pretty drab when you reached immortality unless you had boundless options to hunt, which is why it makes so much sense that some part of Jake deep down is overzealous to populate the universe with potential future opponents. Not necessarily hunting to kill, as they are mostly his friends so far, just things that will be able to test him or challenge him. Exhibit A would be The Fallen King, but in order for that to ever be a good fight for him again Jake would have to find a way to extricate their soul, B The Sword Saint, who Jake talked back into living to be his rival, C Vesperia, who switches between combat mode and chill mode, and there are many others with less direct cause and effect relationships. The point being that in order to truly become the greatest hunter, you'd have to take down all of the greatest, now long extinct/diluted, prey. So Jake has no choice but to bring them all back to prove who stands at the apex.

Rad

Reminds me of the totally not useless malefic orb Villy sent to wyrmgod through snappy. Also has the red ultra-arcane energy.

StuBee3

Happy new year!

Thenais

happy new year !

john henderson

I think that this is more like a material that can be used to enhance something, through some sort of ritual or other method. Perennial has a few definitions, one of them being the plant which persists for several years with new growth, in dutch meerjarig, which literally translates to "more having his/her birthday". Another being persistent, everlasting, in dutch vortduren, in which case this marble would give that quality to another existence. Lastly, would be timeless, in dutch eeuwig, which is also the translation for eternal. Personally I'd like to think all 3 are relevant, else why would he have chosen perennial over something more traditional like simply "eternal". Therefore it will be like a rebirth for whoever it comes in contact with, harnessing the roots of their existence to find their base ancestry and enhance the relevance of it, allowing them to achieve the form of being lost to eternity. Personally I'm hoping my boy Temlat gets a hold of it, and it makes him into Pinnochio. Barring that, it would be sweet if Jake was able to use it to enhance the lil elemental flame he's been nurturing, final option I'd love to see is it goes to the Fallen King, fully separating him from Jake as it harnesses and enhances the essence of his unique lifeform genetics, and grants him an eternal body that Jake can still technically deactivate but isn't fully linked to his mortality.

Abbots Foley

Is there a domain in that seed?

T

The marble is in its essence a container for origin energy …. Kinda bonkers that he needs that much mana to contain a smidge of origin energy

Daniel Hogan

Perennial in terms of botany is recurring yearly, but perennial otherwise means enduring indefinitely. Usually a perennial existence means an eternal existence.

john henderson

Well in all fairness, SIM Jake didn't notice him because of his perception stat but his bloodline, but considering some portion of the architect is linked to the system, Jake doing something impressive he gleaned from a system assisted vision is not really any different than a swordsman using a system assisted slash attack to show off his personal sword skills.

T

No elementals have souls and intelligence even soulflames have a bit of soul left that ting is pure mana + a drop of jake juice aka origin energy

joel southard

Nice

T

That is a bit complicated Perennial by itself would just be reappearing yearly but an perennial existence would be the return to origin embracing to be the origin of your existence/path

Ivo Wißen

Maybe for testing but never the real dungeon

Ivo Wißen

Or he waits till he has all the try's in C-grade todo a littel chat

Christopher Hendrix

TFTC! Happy New Year!

Klown Keidra

I'm guessing that is the start of the system naming Jake's Affinity for the multiverse. By the time the soul flame is finished and he is developed closer to B Grade, it'll be called Perennial Affinity.

Klown Keidra

Not sure if it'll upgrade his affinity, but it does sound like the system is starting to recognize it and name it for the multiverse as a whole. I'm betting once the soul flame is finished being created it'll stop being just called Jake's Arcane affinity and is just called a Perennial Affinity by the system itself.

BerciTheBeast

TFTC!

Klown Keidra

I think it ultimately is who is talking about it. Jake refers to it as Jake Juice, while Villy and the system calls it Origin Energy. This whole chapter was from Jake.

Micah Molina

Great chapter! Happy New Year all! Zogarth you're such a tease. I'm already that guy with the conspiracy theory that the portals actually lead to the 2nd Era and Temlat will go on to reach godhood. But damn! I never thought about Jake might actuality have a role in Nevermore's origin, until now lol. You're such a great writer, you tease! Even if I'm reaching, thank you for stimulating my imagination! <3

Daniel Hogan

Isn't a perennial existence immortality? Seems op for a small spark of Jake Juice?

BB8ALREADY

Unless he forgets lol

Mats

I wonder if Jake fully saturates the marble, so it is completely red. It will become (marble of perennial affinity) and if he consumes it his affinity will be upgraded to the next level. 🤔

Seen Death

Tyfc! Hope your holidays went well! Also, i could be very wrong but im thinking this could be the first (outside of the manawell) arcane elemental? Its got jakes "spark" + a sizable amount of mana to feed off of- similar to a usual egg... this item being "unique"... did jake create a unique elemental with just a spark of jake juice?

Shawn Lockhart

Is "Jake juice" just a placeholder or are you letting an okay joke beat itself to death? I though it was "Orgin Energy" or something along those lines. After "Jake Juice" #3 I was already cringing

Valhazstromoz

Hmm a perennial existence? What could that mean? Could this be the birth of an arcane elemental made of Jake's mana?

JJB4345_80_815

I liked the explanation of why Jake decided not to go back in time and visit the First Sage while in the House of the Architect. It also serves as foreshadowing of Jake doing that once he's out of Nevermore...

Namorat

Now that sounds promising :D By the way, you misspelled confidence as confidense at one point, I think

JJB4345_80_815

Yes, thank you for the chappy Zogarth!

Tyler Srail

Man, a part of me wishes Jake took this opportunity to play around with making a plague - something new for him that would be rewarded for his progress and minimal risk of it being deployed in the real world. Wyrmdaddy probably wouldn't approve though

JJB4345_80_815

All of the Primordials became Gods before the start of the Second Era, when Nevermore was discovered. I'm assuming that there isn't a God -grade level of Nevermore, so I am guessing none of the Primordials actually did the dungeon.

Definitely (Not) a Necromancer

Post nut clarity setting in for Jake

Tyler S.

But what does it all mean? A Perennial existence? Thanks for this intriguing new development, and to a joyous new year Zog.

f

Happy new years!

Michael Fannon

A perennial existence? Well, that's ominous.

Gavin

He created yet another existence and this one is far more.....than all the ones before. He made an egg 😂

Olof Karlsson

Thanks for the chapter!

Thomas Laptain

Have any of the primordials been to nevermore? If so, maybe Jake could get a submission using the heretic chosen to view Villy's time in the house of the architect, or duskleaf, though I'm not sure if that would be possible. I don't think it would be unreasonable that the Architect could have a similar level of perception to Jake within the house itself, so maybe the Architect could somehow notice him there in the past, sort of like SIM Jake managed to.

Kyle Pemberton

Is it supposed to be a grenade? What is it supposed to do?

Dave

He’s making marbles like the Fallen King now, Interesting

BritishBob

Jake juice. Oh boy...

BlackRazaras

Thanks for the chapter and happy new year receive!

sam

Happy new year for yesterday !!!!

Kyle Pemberton

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