Zogarth
patreon
Chapter 820 - Nevermore: A Peculiar Little Thing
🕑 Added 2024-01-03 12:00:35 +0000 UTCIf anyone else had seen what the person sitting on the ground with his arcane marble had just done, they likely wouldn’t believe its legitimacy. Certain rules and norms existed that everyone assumed to be true, so it was natural that when someone didn’t play by these rules and decided to make up their own laws for how things worked, no one would take them seriously.
However, Jake had never been one to just believe it when someone said something couldn’t be done. Especially not when it came to anything his Bloodline could do. Jake still only had a faint grasp as to the gravity of what he had pulled off, but he knew it was impressive if anything the books claimed regarding mana constructs was correct.
Mana constructs were, by nature, temporary. No items made up entirely of mana could exist, and even mana with souls – elementals – had a limited lifespan. Mana itself was a malleable element that made up everything and was, in the eyes of many, the purest form of energy. It was one of the three fundamental energies, with many believing inner energy and vital energy were derived from mana. Jake didn’t really believe this, as he had heard differently, so he kind of ignored those notes. It was this lack of caring about what others had researched and claimed should be possible that allowed him to make the small marble in his hand.
Jake had made a prediction that paid off. He had been told before that his stable arcane mana registered as something physical and not made of mana. However, it was more accurate to say that his stable arcane mana registered as non-summoned simply due to how stable it was. Any analyst would still be able to figure out it had mana in it – everything did to some extent – but Jake’s stable arcane energy was more akin to a naturally occurring piece of metal than a pure mana construct.
That was actually a pretty good comparison. Jake’s stable arcane affinity was very much akin to something like metal in that they were both very, well, stable.
Everything contained mana, and everything leaked and absorbed mana at different speeds, with absorption nearly always faster than the leakage, which was how raw materials grew in rarity and energy density as time passed. Most metals were known to be very slow at both of these things, making them take a long time to improve in rarity in the wild. This lack of leaking and absorption also made metals incredibly stable, which was where the entire concept of stability came from.
Stability merely meant to be unaffected by the environment – both good and bad.
Yet, no matter how stable a magical construct was, it would never be as stable as a real item. It would always just be a collection of mana as it lacked aspects that made it truly physical and corporeal. Lacked the Records to be an independent item. Even if a metal or earth maga summoned a giant wall, it would disappear within a short period, assuming it wasn’t just made by manipulating material that was already there. With time, the internal mana structure would simply be broken down if the source of the mana was a person and not environmental mana.
In the same way, a weapon summoned by a metal mage also needed to be constantly supplied with new mana. More importantly, It also wouldn’t be Identifiable despite looking very much like a regular item. Yet the arcane marble Jake had just made was. It registered as a standalone item, entirely separate from Jake’s own existence and mana. This meant that even if Jake died, the orb would remain, something utterly impossible for any other kind of mana-summoned object. Holding it in his hand, Jake also felt it would remain for a long time. A very, verylong time. Unsurprisingly, considering the word perennial in the item name.
Now, it had to be mentioned that creating an actual item out of nothing using only mana was theoretically possible; however, not for someone like Jake. With enough Willpower, it was possible to “will” something into existence, including real items, but the sheer Willpower required was entirely out of the realm of possibility for anyone doing this Challenge Dungeon. Making something from nothing was the kind of feat only gods or perhaps peak S-grades could reliably pull off.
In conclusion… Jake had pulled off something a C-grade shouldn’t be capable of. He had created a true item out of nothing but his own stable mana. He had created something real. A marble capable of existing, even long after Jake’s own death, assuming he messed up dodging one time too many.
One may ask what the function of this item Jake had miraculously made was, and… well… it was very tough and would exist for a long time, so that was definitely two things. Ah, it was also a little pretty, and its sheer uniqueness definitely made it a nice collector’s item. As for practical uses…
Yeah… it was entirely useless. It was just a very hard marble, and any Origin Energy within would instantly be destroyed should something break it. In fact, Jake felt that the Origin Energy would work actively to destroy itself and anything that broke the stable barrier that defended its existence. It was pure instinct to aim for mutual destruction, as should the marble break or leak in any way, the energy would instantly dissipate and greedily be absorbed by the environment.
Instinct was actually quite a keyword here. Jake hadn’t been the one to really intend to create something called a Perennial Arcane Marble. It had all been up to the Origin Energy. In the same vein that Jake didn’t intend how a core would mutate and transform when he infused this unique energy, he also didn’t control what the energy would do this time. He only sent with it the hope that it would be stable and not break apart, with the Origin Energy then doing the rest of the work itself by forming the marble.
The more I think about it, the more this Origin Energy seems kind of alive, Jake thought to himself as he lifted the marble and looked at it more closely before he got up and headed straight toward the Architect to submit it. Or, maybe it’s more correct to say it makes things come alive? It definitely makes whatever I infuse it into change by itself when infused…
Jake still felt very unsure exactly why this energy worked the way it did, and he felt he wouldn’t fully figure it out for a long time. The best he could do was figure out aspects of the energy and be satisfied with that. To focus on the outcomes and not the underlying explanation for everything. Then again, maybe he could ask the Architect if she would spill a little bit of insight. With her direct system connection, she had to know something, right?
Reaching the door leading into her room, Jake didn’t even have to knock as it opened by itself. Walking inside, the Architect sat in her usual spot and opened her eyes to regard Jake right as he stepped inside.
“Quite a peculiar submission you have this time around if you are showing me what I believe you will show me,” the Architect said, her eyes already fixated on the small, useless, arcane marble in Jake’s hand.
Jake tossed the marble into the air before catching it again, noticing how the Architect’s gaze never left the small thing. This gave Jake an idea, as he sighed loudly. “I will be honest; I’m not even sure if it’s worth submitting.”
“Oh?” she questioned.
“I have no idea if it’s considered good or bad… it’s technically just a bunch of mana made into a marble with a tiny smidgen of this albeit pretty unique energy within,” Jake said, continuing to play with the marble as he faked being deep in thought. “Actually, how long have I been in the House of Architect by now?”
“A bit over sixteen months,” the Architect answered.
“In that case, I got time to do something else,” Jake said, faking relief. “I was pretty fast in some of the prior Challenge Dungeons too, and with the time me and my teammates allocated, I could easily spend a year more in here.”
The Architect didn’t say anything as Jake continued talking while holding up the marble and looking at it closely. “I apologize for wasting your time; I don’t think this one is worth submitting.”
Jake waited patiently as the Architect just sighed after a few seconds of silence. “You are not a particularly good actor, but fine, I’ll bite. I do want that little marble of yours. As for why… well, let me ask you something instead. All Nevermore Attendees make use of this World Wonder to gain power, levels, and Records. With that in mind, what do you think the Wyrmgod and I get out of all of you being here?”
“Information?” Jake questioned. Nevermore collected data on everyone after all, so… wait. “No… you get Records?”
Nevermore – the Architect – smiled at his response. “Precisely. As you harvest your gains, so do we harvest some of what you reap. We learn about all those who pass through here, and your Records become one with the World Wonder, allowing it to keep growing era by era. This is part of the reason why unique items are so highly valued in this Challenge Dungeon. It is still an evaluation of your skill, yes, but selfishly, we value uniqueness highly due to how much it benefits us as it expands the spectrum of Records available. Of course, everyone is unique in some way or another, and helps expand it. No two people have the exact same Records, but there will be inevitable overlap between those who follow similar Paths. Your Path is unique in its own right, and your Bloodline of the Primal Hunter is one of the most potent ones I have come across, meaning any Records related to it are highly valued. Far more than a mere evaluation in a Challenge Dungeon can make justice.”
Jake slowly nodded, surprised he got the Architect to spill so much when she had been tight-lipped for over a year. She really wanted his small marble, huh? However, with the things she said, Jake still hadn’t fully gotten his answer.
“That is all very enlightening… but that doesn’t answer my question. Will this small marble even be considered a good submission? Despite its uniqueness, it’s still just a bunch of stable arcane mana squished together with some of my unique energy in the center. That it is considered a real item is probably impressive, but I am not sure exactly how impressive. Sure, you may value it due to how unique you find it, but that doesn’t make it a good submission according to the rules of this Challenge Dungeon,” Jake pointed out.
“You are aware I will not answer if something will receive a high evaluation or not before submiting it, but I will dispel some of your doubt. As I am well aware that you already know, creating an item from mana alone is far from a simple matter and carries many implications. This is not to mention the nature of the specific item you created. I cannot reveal much, but I will say that you are far from understanding the true meaning of this Primeval Energy. You all are far from fully understanding it, your Patron included,” the Architect said. “I will end my comments on the matter here. Decide to submit it or not. I will not force you, nor will I make any promises regarding an evaluation. The only promise I will make is that nothing regarding this little marble will be leaked to any other being, not even the Wyrmgod.”
Jake didn’t need to think much more as he chose to submit the arcane marble. He had always planned on doing so, but he had genuine doubts about how good of a submission it was. There still was some doubt, but much of it had been dispelled after this conversation.
The final sentence was a clue. For the Architect to specifically promise once more that she wouldn’t leak anything meant that her leaking it would be a big deal. That communicated to Jake this little marble was a big deal, similar to his Grimoire, though probably in a very different way. The kind of way where more people would want to explore Jake’s special little energy as they came to realize it potentially had more effects than just bringing out the Primeval Origins in cores to give birth to powerful ancient variants.
Either way, Jake had now submitted it, meaning he only had one more potential Creations he needed to come up with while he kept working on his poison and “teaching” Temlat here and there. Jake wouldn’t really say he was teaching much, which was why he felt weird thinking about it as teaching. He was more just giving occasional advice, pointing the young half-elf towards books, and helped him out when stumped. True, there was also the curse nurturing and presence resistance training Jake still occasionally did, but those didn’t really include Temlat learning anything.
Shaking off the thought, Jake focused his attention on this last Creation he had to come up with. For what felt like the umpteenth time, he went through all of his skills, not to look for one to upgrade, but to see if there was one that would give him any inspiration for a crafting venture.
Sure, there was still the possibility of just making an elixir even if Jake had written it off… he could also just be boring and submit a potion? Nah, that would suck too much. As Jake was thinking, he suddenly got an idea that would be awesome if it worked.
With excitement, he tried to pull a certain item out of his inventory and, surprisingly enough, found himself successful. With a grin, he held the mythical rarity Cradle of Soul’s Kindling as he peeked inside with the hope of getting lucky. It would be perfect.
Using the extracted Soulflame, Jake’s Alchemical Flame would upgrade several grades at once, and Jake would even have technically crafted it as it was fully born when he took it out of the Cradle. All that needed to happen was for Jake to get lucky by having a good Soulflame inside, and he would be golden.
However, reality proved cruel as Jake checked the Cradle and found no good Soulflame available. Soulflames had the qualities of elementary, low-tier, mid-tier, high-tier, pinnacle-tier, and Supreme Soulflames, and as Jake looked inside, he saw that while the area where arcane affinity Soulflames spawned was still expanding, the best Soulflame with his affinity was a mid-tier one. Ah, but he did spot a few high-tier Soulflames in there. Sadly, these were all of different affinities.
Alas, sometimes Jake couldn’t get super lucky. After infusing what little mana he had remaining into the Cradle to give his arcane affinity a bit more of an edge in the battle of affinities, he put the Cradle away again, finding himself back at square one.
You know what… fuck it, let’s just focus on the poison, and I am sure I will get on something along the way. If not, maybe I can just submit my inability to get on anything good as a Creation… Jake thought self-deprecatingly as he went toward the alchemy lab to play with poisons.
--
Within the Architect’s room, she was looking at the marble in front of her. It didn’t look like much, as if it was just a small gem or pearl. There was none of the aura a high-quality item would usually leak, but just a completely inert object. Yet the Bound God found it more than intriguing, even if it raised more questions than it gave answers.
Still looking at it, she felt the probing of her fellow ruler of the World Wonder as the Wyrmgod curiously approached her. Likely because he had seen the Chosen leave her chambers.
“I see he has handed in another submission. My guests grow curious, so-“
“No,” Nevermore cut him off. “Not only am I unwilling, I am incapable of sharing.”
“Incapable?” the Wyrmgod questioned. “Like with…?”
“Yes, the same as with four of the Creations from the man called Eron, the Chosen of the Lifesoul Daolord. Truly curious to see two individuals with such aberrant Bloodlines appearing on the same planet,” the Architect answered.
The Wyrmgod grumbled but stopped probing as Nevermore kept looking at the small marble. He knew that when the system set down a hard line like this, there was no need to keep trying. It had decided to block certain information, making it so there were things not even she could see, and what she could see, she was physically incapable of sharing with anyone.
She wanted to probe it more… but she knew that even if the system allowed it, all she would be doing was breaking the marble. Breaking the stable energy surrounding the spark would result in the spark infusing the rest of the energy to destroy itself. A truly peculiar Creation with no real uses to anyone.
However, even if it didn’t have any practical use cases, this small marble was Perennial. Everlasting. Something that shouldn’t be possible. With time, all items degraded. A sword will lose its energy, becoming inert. A magic circle will need constant repairs to keep active. Any structure will require maintenance… even a small rock would change with time, finding itself affected by the environment.
Yet, despite how much the world would change or how many eras would pass this small marble would remain. Unless destroyed, it could potentially continue to exist forever… a fate usually only reserved for the divine. Achieved with not a single smidgen of divinity.
Peculiar indeed…
Comments
Martín Ballesteros Arias
Could you imagine? an Primeval origin soulflame or maybe a new rank of soul flame "Origin tier" arcane soulflame
Xander Vick
I am dying to see Jake inject some Jake Juice into the soul soul flame cradle…
Mrburns93
Well this one line has a typo in it but you couldn't convince me that it wasn't intentional "if a metal or earth maga summoned a giant wall"
Tim Eerens Sköld
Jake should shove some of his special juice into that urn. I bet it would create something completely impossible and broken.
ABTelford
Friendly edit: second to last paragraph: there are several instances of “will” that need to be changed into “would” to maintain past tense conditional conjugation. Ex: A sword WOULD lose its energy,
ABTelford
When Jake thinks to himself directly in first person, it should be italicized or put in quotation marks so the reader has that visual cue. Ex: “The more I think about it, the more this Origin Energy seems kind of alive”, Jake thought
Alex
Eron managed 4 non-shareable creations. Thats impressive. :D probably helped him out quite a bit in his quest for blanket immortality for everyone.
Chrono Tempestus
So the architect was NOT Able and Willing to share the contents of the trial.
justin
The marble will have a tiny planet and people someday
Jeff McCulley
I wasn’t sure that he was killed. Perhaps “appropriated” might be more accurate.
JJB4345_80_815
Dumb question, but could it have been the arcane energy itself causing the explosion since it doesn't like other people trying to manipulate it? There's a mention in this chapter I think of the arcane energy being almost alive and a warning not to fiddle with it. The old elf barrier mage was fiddling with it. I remember the first time I read it I wondered which God smited him, but the second time around I thought it could've been an accidental explosion. Of course, I was a bit more casual and not as detailed in my reading habits the second time through. 🤷
Luke Scheffe
Killing someone over something Jake willingly did is really, really not Villy’s style. If it was Villy, he would have given a warning first, since Jake was involved. Even if the guy insisted on ignoring the warning, Villy would likely involve Jake in the retaliation.
Luke Scheffe
I highly doubt that the Grimoire has this level of secrecy. The system isn’t likely to care that much about heretic blessed, but the marble holds important information it wants to keep a secret. The grimoire getting out would hurt Jake’s interests, but what matters for the system’s intervention is if it’s own interests are at stake.
Decibel790
If he was entropy, I don't think he could make something that would last eternally like the marble. As chaotic as he is, I don't think chaos is what he truly embodies. But that's just my opinion on it.
JJB4345_80_815
Justin - Yes I think that his bloodline will evolve in B-grade and even A-Grade. It could even evolve further, depending on when/how his race evolves. I can't wait to read about it, too!
Numbzy
I think will be more 10%-15%. I mean EH has a politician profession. I doubt he will get a great score in The House of the Architect. So that's at least 15% there, add in 5 minimum for coliseum, 5 for maze, and whatever they got for achievement from before level 70. If its less than 25% I'll be surprised. Also, what happens if Jake does the same thing against EH that he did against Valdemar. EH dies everytime. He cannot compete.
Justin
JJ I had the exact same theories. That he'd beat him but I think it'll be by 10-15% not 60 or something crazy. Question for you though, you still thinking Jake's bloodline is evolving after the Valdemar fight? I think Villy almost confirmed it's that Jake just can't handle the raw power of his own bloodline, and is basically subconsciously "letting it off the reins" with each evolution. But I may have interpreted that poorly idk.
Justin
I hope you're right too bc that'd be sick my friend lol. I was just saying that I think for Villy, like in your examples, it was more him supporting Snappy/Duskleaf not supporting Sandy/Meira. Plus bc those 2 were originally connected to Jake, his Chosen, to begin with. Whereas the Daofathers only real connection is one of my many disciples made Eron a Chosen, and another got his image wrecked by Jake. But again I agree with you, that could very well be enough. It's just with him seemingly more reclusive than even Aeon I'm unsure. Love the theory though, keep em coming!
Wilson Lessley
It doesn’t make sense to add the Jake juice until he has an elemental that is good enough for him. Jake juice seems to empower specific things, not the process behind it.
JJB4345_80_815
Samantha - While I believe "The Primal Hunter experience" would be classified as unique and the overall discussion held private, I believe that the Architect could hint at it saying "Jake submitted a private conversation between myself and him which will of course remain private." The Wrymgod didn't even get "He submitted a unique marble" from the Architect on this one. My guess is that the Grimoire and the Marble are on the Super-duper Level of secrecy, while the conversation is just a step below that on the secrecy scale. Could I be wrong? Absolutely! But I'm gonna go ahead with my assumption for now.
JJB4345_80_815
One thing that did separate Jake from Ell'hakan is that when Jake confronted him at the beginning of the Nevermore arc, Jake realized that Ell'hakan's bloodline didn't evolve when he reached C-grade while Jake's bloodline DID evolve at C-grade. However, don't underestimate Ell'hakan's other attributes. Heck, the Sword Saint TOLD Jake that Cheeto Boi was holding back in their duel and the Sword Saint believed EH walked a path of slaughter. He might not have killed Valdy's image in the Colosseum of Mortals, but he very well could have impressed Valdy enough to give him a passing grade and the 20% achievement. If both Arnold and Casper were able to get 20% in Minaga's dungeon, there's a chance that Ell'hakan was able to do so as well. Ell'hakan might have been able to use his bloodline to cheese this dungeon as well as the other dungeon we know about. While I expect Jake to come out on top, I don't think that it will be by an overwhelming amount. Oh, and Jake made it clear at the start of Nevermore that Ell'hakan F***ed up when he decided to mess with Earth. Jake ain't gonna let that slide. There will be blood.
JJB4345_80_815
Justin - yeah, I could be stretching things...BUT Villy was around Meira enough that she kept passing out causing Jake to train up her god aura resistance. When Snappy warned Meira to keep Duskleaf's secrets, Villy popped in afterwards teasing Snappy about being protective of Duskleaf. Speaking of Snappy, Villy actually urged him to make Sandy his chosen. The Daolords serve a similar purpose to the Daofather. While Villy has already mentioned that the Daofather is rarely seen, even by other Primordials, the Daolords serve in his stead and represent him in multiversal matters. I'm speculating that with other Primordials attending, coupled with Eron and Jake doing their things and receiving attention from 2 of his field generals, while this time is also the start of the 93rd Era and the Nevermore leaderboards, that a confluence of several separate events MAY draw the recluse into the story. I'm probably wrong, but I'm kinda hoping that I'm right... 🤷
Samantha Sandlin
Was his conversation with Nevermore, the Bound God at the beginning shared with anyone or was it kept secret as well?
Acaeluse
Seems like he does, but is it a relationship with the system or The First Sage who seems to have somehow integrated himself into the system?
Numbzy
I mean yes, but I feel like Jake has shown that El'Hakan can't compete with him. I seriously doubt that EH killed Valdemar. Basically by Jake doing that, he's set the bar incredibly high for anyone who wants conflict with him personally. I don't see EH even being able to actually threaten him. Additionally, based on his *pressumed* evaluation in the House of the Architect, many people will want him as a pure crafter and protect him from a higher grade squashing him like a bug, in addition to Villy's protection. These two things together means that EH is no longer an enemy. Yip and EH can't afford to be enemy's. Jake is too powerful to be overcome by a "peer" and protected from those who are higher grade.
Travis Nevins
That last part about chaos made crack up. It's so true! 🤣🤣
Darthnarciss
The problem is, Yip seems to derive at least a portion (most likely the majority) of his power from Stories. Buuut sadly for Yip and his Chosen, they decided to go after "the boogeyman of the multiverse" and his Chosen, who is essentially Chaos personified. You can't base your epic tale of Overcoming the Great Evil, if chaos is involved as a participant. The whole thing will go off script reeeeaall quick.
Bobby B
Huh. I wonder if Jake will use his “abilities “ to bring Villys wife and child back in some form?
Bobby B
I still believe Jake has a unique relationship with the system. A never before seen correlation. Possibly the system injecting fresh records into the multiverse while reverting back to original concepts and entities.
Bobby B
Ah. Probably more of his pursuit of everyone living forever. Items to gain immortality to everyone’s spark.
Malth
El'Hakan invaded his world and among all the people who died because of it was someone he'd blessed who was proving themselves useful to Jake; almost managed to get Miranda, Hank, Louise and Mark killed by Arthur's forces, provided enough chaos for the Church to attack the Risen faction and drive them offworld...etc. Jake has plenty of reason to smash El'Hakan like a bug if he gets the chance. He's also shown previously that he has fully taken Villy's "don't let someone live if they could come back again as a bigger problem" lesson to heart so I don't see him beating El'Hakan and letting him live. A comeback story is *exactly* the kind of thing El'Hakan and Yip of Yore would want too.
Malth
Jake would know if Eversmile is keeping tabs on him since it's been shown repeatedly that Jake's bloodline lets him know when a god's snooping on him. He can see through Eversmile's (non-bloodline) disguises even though the other Primordials cannot, and Umbra now has confirmation that he can see through her stealth abilities after getting the recording of the level 0 match between her copy and Jake. The only other person who might've killed the mage is Snappy but the odds he's monitoring Jake is near zero, especially since he'd know Villy is watching his own Chosen.
Justin
While I agree that it would be awesome to see him, the Benevolent Monk was the image of Soulfist Daolord and Eron is the chosen of the Lifesoul Daolord. We don't know how connected this makes them to the Daofather himself. Sorta like Villy being aware of Meira as Duskleaf's Chosen but has had very little personal involvement.
Numbzy
Weird theory here, what if Jake doesn't defeat El'Hakan? What if he just out-grows him as an enemy? Like El'Hakan shows up again to fight, and Jake's just like "Piss off, I'm busy!" While all the other factions are watching. Jake and Eron are busy making something that has everybody paying attention and EH and Yip are just told to go bother someone else for your story.
Constantin
I am not sure he would get the soulflame back if he submits it. it would be to big of a risk
joel southard
Nice
Alysyn
Ha!
KollegvomMirgan
Interesting theory. I like it :)
Mownmbasa
Personally i have a different theory. I think the system itself did it because the mage discovered what Villy couldn't figure out about Jake's mana. And it just got confirmed by the discussion between the Architect and Jake about the marble. I do believe it was written a bit dubious. Usually we see the aftermath from Villy's perspective yet in that instance we weren't privy to it. Also I think Villy knows this is weird territory since he actively tries not to understand fully Jakes Bloodline and as a consequence his arcane mana. I feel this somehow infringes on some primordial System rule that cannot be broken. Since Jake's ability is bloodline related the system cannot remove it or punish Jake for unknowingly breaking the fundamental rules of the System's universe but it can make sure no one else does it either. Probably has safety measures in place that if Jake propagates his bloodline it will be through mutation of it. It's even said clearly it's never identical. Unless he dies and someone inherits it by a system event which will never happen with Jake, the System will delete any bloodline original data if Jake dies. It might be out there but this is my theory and i am sticking to it! Also , my theory goes hand in hand with most of the readers hope that Jake will revive Villy's family. Bringing back someone from certain forms of death of divine nature is forbidden in this universe otherwise VIlly would've done it. But since it breaks one of those rules, only Jake can do it since Jake's Bloodline motto is "Fuck the System"!
John Balman
I can't wait for the gods peanut gallery to finally speak up LoL looking forward to Villy's chuckling. And then later him ribbing Jake for what happened.
JJB4345_80_815
I'm kinda wondering if other Primordials have joined the watch party and not just because of Jake either. Stormild and Aeon Clock have Sylphie and the Sword Saint doing the challenge dungeons and might cause them to become interested. Will Eron's showing in the Architect dungeon and the mysterious Harbinger speach from the Benevolent Monk be enough to bring the Daofather into the mix?
Irakli Jishkariani
Hmm, good idea really. It's risky but that's no problem for jake. Hmmm origin soulflame?? Sounds interesting
Sam Rosenberg
Great chapter. What did Eron submit?
PurpleBen
They likely know he submitted something, but the Wyrmgod/Nevermore won’t give them details like before
Frederik
I like the idear sadly he has already used up all of his jake Juice so we probably wont see it for quite some time
Abbots Foley
Me too. His creations were amazing before being chosen by something that makes Villy nervous.
WetCarrot
We didn’t but I think most likely villy. My personal theory is eversmile
Numbzy
Well get that at the end. I'm assuming there will be a post-evaluation discussion about his creations and how he did.
Numbzy
There is no discussion since they don't know know what happened.
An Open Book
So uh why doesn't Jake put some magic Jake juice into the soul cradle to boost his soulflame to origin levels? I mean it might mess it up but it might also make it attune to him better like the vespernaut queen
Micah Molina
I'm actually not. This is probably Eron's best dungeon when you think about it. He probably sucked at the Labyrinth and we know he did poor in the arena one. Considering how he forces others sparks into submission I doubt he did as well in the Character one too.
Darthnarciss
I'm pretty sure his arcane affinity is Chaos (read as Protean). He always brings Chaos, Harbinger of Chaos, bringing back an ancient line unbalanced the battle between the insects amd the robots, his constant ability to undermine the gods and their machinations, and just his general throw a Wrench in it attitude. In that vein, I'd say his stable version is "perennial (read as eternal or ancient)/creation" and his destructive side is "annihilation (read as void)/destruction".
Quasimagics
Working on a theory: Jake's bloodline will allow him to reach the rank of a god without divinity tho. His orgin ability predates the primordials, he is chaos, the 1st living embodiment of system entropy.
kingofshibainu
There's also this Protean concept mixed in, very intriguing. Void/creation/return to origin
Steven Myer
Hope he shows up at the Primal hangout.
Steven Myer
I have always assumed Villy intercepted the information from being sent, not like he isn't always watching. But the writing didn't feel that way.
BumAssBumAss
Villy did that. There is no way he wouldn't know what Jake shared and was on the lookout for snitches.
Sammot
Honestly I think it's gonna be happing late b or in a tier if he wants a supreme soul flame, I feel like its to rare for him to get it within c tier.
BumAssBumAss
Maybe it touches the concept of the void. Sword Saint previously said that the void is too unstable to use as a canvas.
Sammot
Hundred percent just villy, he has always one incarnation or clone or whatever it's called watching Jake. If it was anyone else than villy than villy would know who it was and thus it wouldn't matter
Numbzy
99% sure that Villy smited him when he tried to send the recordings of Jake's mana out.
kingofshibainu
Perennial seems like one half of this primeval affinity Jake has, then what is destruction related to?
Michael
Right, but if the poison was to be empowered by Jake's bloodline, wouldn't that just make the poison damn near impossible to fight off. Especially since that red energy/instinct that lies within Jake's energy would actively fight against the one the poison is inflicted on
KollegvomMirgan
Did we find out who killed the barrier mage who inspected Jake's stable arcana mana barrier and gave him bracers and a perception ring? Was just remineded of him while Jake was doing impossible stuff with his arcane mana again....
Ivo Wißen
I hope so
BB8ALREADY
Bros making man made horrors beyond comprehension lol
Eiv
I am itching to know the discussion in the gods room 🙈
Taj Malloy
I feel like maybe Jake and Eron will become a different type of god if they make it that far
Ivo Wißen
I realy want to know what arnold does in the hous of achitekt
Nate Green
Tftc
jb qspam
Fake typo!
JJB4345_80_815
And Eron is currently beating Jake 4-2 in that department! (I'm assuming that the Grimoire of Jake counts as well) Unless I am forgetting another of Jake's submissions that require such draconian secrecy measures (against the Primordial Dragon)? 😁
Jonathan
more akin to a naturally occurring piece of metal than a pure mana construct mana. more akin to a naturally occurring piece of metal than pure mana-construct mana. Even if a metal or earth maga mage
Seiryus
It could be useful, but the primary issue is that while the orb won't decay naturally, it can be destroyed. Poisons don't usually go away naturally, they are fought off by those who are infected.
BelligerentGnu
Man, I really want to see the architects full thoughts on Jake's ten.
Drew
Typo: earth maga summoned -> earth mage summoned
Aerlevsedi
And so begin my endless thoughts about Jake surpassing S grade by becoming something fundamentally different from a God using his origin energy instead of divinity. Which will only be exacerbated by the lack of knowledge on what that might imply.
JJB4345_80_815
I was thinking the same thing! Also, that Eron created 4 separate [redacted] submissions is crazy! Sounds like he got a 25% achievement. I'm getting the vibe that the Daofather and Eron are going to come into play more post Nevermore (Benevolent Monk Soulfist Daolord stuff and Eron's goal)
Dave
Great chapter ty
JJB4345_80_815
Marbles are never useless, especially in combat. Just throw a bunch of those marbles at your enemies feet, watch them slip and fall on them and suddenly die from the subsequent humiliation. Maybe Jake will earn the title "Soul Marble Dao Lord." In all seriousness, with the Benevolent Monk/Soulfist Daolord saying something about him continuing to improve his Arcane energy and calling him a Harbinger I can't help making an association with this submission.
BumAssBumAss
Eron is going to seriously hound Jake if he learns Jake can make something like this.
Victor Augusto Dantas Ferreira
Double down and say it was a trump joke 🤣🤣
Tyler S.
The Cradle being dismissed saddened me, was really hopeing that if he spent maybe another 6 months or so infusing it to get a Pinnacle tier. Guess thats going to be a post Nevermore achievement. Tyftc Zog
JJB4345_80_815
Congrats on being first! Thank you for the chappy Zogarth!
Michael
Given how we've heard records be discussed time and time again, if Jake just made something everlasting with his "Jake juice" wouldn't that technically mean he could start eventually crafting poisons, potions, elixirs, origin cores, etc with perennial capabilities
Taj Malloy
TFTC I'm kinda surprised that Eron submitted items similar in importance to Jake he is kinda scary in his own right
Areshan
I'm going to call Jake juice GOAT energy in my head now lol.
brennon Petersen
Tftc!
JJB4345_80_815
Along the same line, right after that in the same paragraph was the word "without" supposed to be "within"? EDIT: Nevermind I once again was late in bringing something up that another brought up first (Pip)
yo dude
maga -> mage
BerciTheBeast
TFTC!
Matthias
Tftc
Kyle Pemberton
Maybe from Eron?
Zogarth
Fix
Dawn cat
Thanks for the chapter
Pip Mitchell
Tftc! Minor edit : it would disappear without a short period = it would disappear within a short period
Olof Karlsson
Thanks for the chapter!
Zogarth
Fix
Zogarth
Fix
Avery Mackey
Jake’s gonna become “divine”, though I guess a better word would be immortal, without become a divine isn’t he
Adam
I get the feeling this dungeon is frustrating to a bunch of Gods who are used to seeing whatever they want to see. They've probably just seen Jake collecting materials, wandering about, terrorising the natives and (redacted).
Jana
Jake once more proves himself to be the Vipers chosen by gifting a Totally Not Useless Marble. The little Brother of a totally not useless Orb.
edgardo rossi
Thanks for the chapter
Abdulaziz ALRumaih
Well damn
Strato Junon
" a metal or earth maga summoned a giant wall, it would disappear without a short period," think that's a typo. Tyfc
Tommy
TFTC! “Even if a metal or earth maga summoned a giant wall” -> Earth mage
BlackRazaras
Thanks for the chapter
Iron
Thanks for the chapter :heart:
Michael Fannon
First
