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Chapter 829 - Nevermore: Evaluation (2)
🕑 Added 2024-01-16 12:00:40 +0000 UTCJake could admit he had not been looking forward to this part. He had already talked a bit with Nevermore about his feelings of inadequacy as a teacher, but they had never really discussed the outcome of Jake’s teachings. Never talked about how “good” of a submission Temlat’s Path was… and, by extension, how well what Jake had taught was viewed. Assuming one could even call what Jake had done teaching.
“We have discussed your feelings on the matter before, but be aware that your thoughts on everything are not in any way deciding factors in the evaluation of the submission. The Path of your student is judged instead from my point of view, and his growth in Records, power, and the overall outcome of your teachings are what truly matters.”
“Which is why I’m surprised it’s rated so highly, considering the outcome was his death.”
The Architect sighed. “The outcome of nearly all Paths is death, and it has to be compared to what else your student would have accomplished. Temlat, the young man you picked up, would have died at level 199, never succeeding in reaching C-grade. His death would occur in an attempt to attack a major conference approximately nineteen years from the time you picked him up as a student, killed by a casual attack from a C-grade security captain.”
Jake remained silent, which the Architect took as a prompt to continue.
“He would never have accomplished any of his goals, and his Path would end there. Instead, you changed his Path entirely the day you took him in. You helped him gain power far above anything he should have ever been capable of reaching. You nurtured his curse to the level it could evolve into a Sin Curse, you made him refine his mindset through your resistance training, and last but not least, you made him realize the true power he held and the limit of his potential. The true power of curses. At the same time, you gave him confidence in pursuing what he would have otherwise thought impossible, and you even opened his eyes to the concept of plagues.”
“Temlat did nearly all of those things by himself,” Jake protested. “I was just around, and he put in all the work. He taught himself.”
“It is rare that people argue their evaluations should be worse,” the Architect sighed. “Alas, that isn’t how this works. Whether you want to accept it or not, you changed the outcome of Temlat’s Path from being someone who died a meaningless death to someone who evolved into an incredibly rare variant creature wielding the power of cursed plagues. Perhaps you can argue this was all him and his own innate talents, which allowed him to reach the power he did. However, you cannot argue your influence in the most outstanding part of your student’s evolution.”
“What do you mean?” Jake asked, unsure what she meant.
“Cursed Plague Remnants are not beings who retain sentience. Not truly. They are nothing more than a jumbled mixture of thoughts and desires focused on whatever the curse is about. There is no ego. What Temlat became wasn’t that. Through your training and the influence you had on him, Temlat managed to remain himself not only through the evolution process, but until the very end. He was allowed to determine how his own Path ended after he accomplished all he had set out to do. In other words, you allowed him to choose not only the direction of his Path but even its endpoint. Something that is incredibly rare in its own right.”
Jake simply listened, frowning a bit.
“What he became and what his goals were also doesn’t matter from a moral perspective in this evaluation. With that in mind, the fact you managed to uplift someone from being incapable of ever killing a C-grade to being able to wipe out a planet filled with them within a week is a great achievement. All accomplished in such a short time span. And, once more, it has to be reiterated how impressive it is that he remained himself even after he was done with his slaughter and could resist his very nature and choose to die.
“In conclusion… you uplifted Temlat from a nobody to what he became, allowed him to redefine his Path to one far more ambitious, and then stood alongside him as he carried out all his goals. Once completed, he then chose his own ending, his Records now living on through you. That is a fate I think you fail to understand how many would envy.”
The room went silent for a few moments as Jake still just stood there, thinking. After five or so seconds, he finally sighed. “I still can’t help but feel like shit for how things went down.”
“And that is fine. Just don’t feel sorry for your student, for he never had a single regret and only held gratitude toward you for allowing him to accomplish his goals. More than anything, do not feel pity, for nothing would be more disrespectful toward someone who decided their Path and fate.”
By now, the topic had been beaten like a dead horse, but Jake still couldn’t help how he felt towards things. He didn’t feel pity, though. It was more that he felt annoyed at himself for not having done things properly, and despite Nevermore’s words, he remained adamant that he wouldn’t take on any students in the near future, if ever. And if he did, he would make it very clear he was at most a sparring partner for questions and in no way a real teacher.
“I get the feeling you don’t have more questions regarding your final Creation,” the Architect said after Jake didn’t say anything for a good while.
“Right,” Jake nodded. “I guess, if nothing else, I can be happy that despite how much I believe I suck as a teacher, at least others value what Temlat managed to accomplish highly.”
The Architect didn’t comment on what Jake said but simply waved her hand as ten projections appeared floating in the air, depicting all of his Creations.
“Then let us wrap this up with the final overall conclusion of this evaluation,” she said. “This is also the only part where I will actually compare you to others, as the Grand Achievements given are ultimately relative, comparing your performance to that of others.”
“Moment of truth,” Jake smiled as the Architect continued.
“While some of your Creations were classified as mediocre in our earlier discussion, they are certainly not seen as such from a more general viewpoint. If compared to the average Nevermore Attendee who has completed the House of the Architect, they would all have been considered high-tier Creations that even the average genius would be proud of. Your Path as the Heretic-Chosen of the Malefic Viper and a hunter is not only unique but both your class and profession are high-tier variants, which naturally lends itself to better final products. What’s more, the fact you have crafted a mythical item before, giving you the Myth Originator title has been a tremendous boost to all your Creations,” the Architect began, with Jake feeling pretty good about all the praise and what it would mean for the Grand Achievement. Also, Jake had totally forgotten he even had that Myth Originator title from back when he made Eternal Hunger. It was one of those passive things he never thought about.
“But…”
There is always a damn but…
“Your entire Path, and thus Creations, in turn, all have the same root: Your Bloodline. While it is normal for those with Bloodlines to have said Bloodline color most of what they do, for you, the case is almost too extreme. Everything you touch carries traces of your Bloodline… which almost makes this evaluation one of your Bloodline and your ability to utilize it rather than merely your skills as a Creator. Luckily for you, your Bloodline is… well, I don’t think I have to evaluate that, now do I?” the Architect finished as she looked at Jake. “Any questions?”
“Eh… just… regarding that last part, how would you rate my Bloodline compared to others?” Jake asked a bit cheekily.
“I would not rate it,” the Architect answered in a deadpan tone.
“But if you had to.”
“I don’t.”
“Hypothetically speaking-“
“We are not dealing with hypotheticals here. Now, do you have any other questions?” the Architect shut down Jake hard.
Jake felt a bit defeated as he just sighed. “No, not really.”
“Very well, then,” the Architect nodded. “Then this officially concludes the evaluation.”
Congratulations! You have completed the House of the Architect Challenge Dungeon!
“Congratulations on your exemplary performance indeed,” the Architect added to the system message as a Grand Achievement popped up in front of Jake. He quickly skimmed it, hoping to see what kind of percentage amplifier he had hit.
Grand Achievement earned: Successfully completed House of the Architect, showing both great skill and diversity in your Path. Through a mixture of innovation and improvement of your existing skills, you have created ten worthwhile Creations, with a few outstanding among them. In the realm of uniqueness, few can match you, and even in a competition of pure crafting ability, with your Bloodline guiding your hand, you have difficulty meeting an equal. Be proud of your creative mind. 86.109 Nevermore Points earned. Due to completing a Grand Achievement, you will receive a 20% multiplier of all Nevermore Points at the final calculation.
“20%,” Jake muttered to himself as a smile crept onto his lips. 20% was good. Even if he had gotten two times 25%, it wasn’t lost on him that getting such a score was far from average. He was still curious, though.
“To be clear, I am not complaining, but what would it have required for me to get a 25% amplifier?” Jake asked, genuinely not expecting an answer.
“For each of your Creations to have been considered top-tier according to the standards you already set,” the Architect surprisingly answered. “That is to say, ten Creations on-par with at least the legendary skill upgrade, Grimoire, your student, or the Arcane Marble while naturally maintaining the same level of diversity and uniqueness with all ten of them.”
“That sounds borderline impossible,” Jake muttered. He couldn’t even get on anything else he could have created…
“Accomplishing what is borderline impossible and perhaps even a bit across that line is exactly what the 25% achievement is for,” the Architect said with a smile. “You should know that, considering your prior performances. From what I hear, Minaga is still complaining.”
“I guess,” Jake shrugged, glad to hear Minaga still suffered from Jake’s labyrinth trip.
“Now, onto the item reward,” the Architect said as what looked like a coin appeared in her hand. With a fluid motion, she flicked it toward Jake. “Catch.”
Jake caught the coin and quickly looked down at it and used Identify.
[Mark of the Architect (Legendary)] – the Mark of the Architect, also known as the Bound God of Nevermore. This Mark will allow you to claim a personal domain within the World Wonder of Nevermore. This domain can be accessed on any of the city floors and will remain persistent throughout all grades. With the legendary token, you will gain access to a more exclusive domain with more privileges, customization options, and Attendants. Only you can enter your personal domain. This personal domain will last for the remainder of the ninety-third era.
Requirements: Soulbound.
“I see a trace of disappointment on your face,” Nevermore said as Jake looked at her Mark.
“Eh, sorry… it’s just that I’m not sure exactly what I will need this for,” Jake muttered. “A personal domain sounds all fine and good, but it isn’t like I spend much time in the cities anyway, and since only I can enter the domain, it isn’t like I can even use it as a secret meeting spot or anything. Also, my time in Nevermore is limited, right? I’m not sure I wanna spend it chilling in my own little space. Well, maybe outside sometimes doing a bit of alchemy in there… but the Order already got quite a few spots secured in the cities for that anyway.”
“You seem to be missing the primary benefit of this personal domain,” the Architect said, shaking her head. “This domain will exist within Nevermore. That means it will be under the influence of the time dilation inherent to the World Wonder. So, now imagine you want to grow something in your personal domain or nurture certain treasures…”
Jake fell silent for a moment as he considered her words. “So what you’re saying is that I get my own personal garden with super time dilation built-in that comes without any downsides or upkeep?”
“That is an adequately accurate assessment, yes. If that is how you wish to design it, that is.”
“Damn, in that case, it may be worth looking into,” Jake said. “If I have the time. Doesn’t sound like the best way to spend my limited time in C-grade when I want to compete on the Leaderboards. Say, how do I turn in this Mark and claim the domain? I just wanna at least pop by and check it out real quick.”
“You turn it in right here,” the Architect said with a smile. “This is the second part of your reward… the help of an architect to prepare your domain. Do note I only do this for those who get a 20% multiplier or above. Others will have to make the Attendants provided do everything or do it themselves.”
“Well, sounds like I may as well get it done now, then… wait, Attendants? Do Attendants come along with this personal domain?”
“Yes, they do… it even said it in the description of the Mark you’re holding. Ah, but to note, they cannot leave the domain for what I hope are obvious reasons,” she said.
Jake nodded, understanding what she meant. If his guess was right, then each personal domain was pretty much just a small pseudo-dungeon within the larger mega-dungeon known as Nevermore. That likely meant many dungeon rules still applied.
“And you said you would help me design this domain?” Jake asked.
“Yes,” Nevermore nodded. “According to set templates, that is. I am not going to personally customize everything, but I can take some minor input if you want some modifications.”
“Exactly how will this work?” Jake asked.
“Do you wish to claim your domain now?” she asked.
“Yes?” Jake asked, a bit confused.
“Then please turn in the coin to me.”
“But you just gave it to me…”
Nevermore just looked back at him for a few seconds before Jake sighed and flicked the coin back to her. It didn’t even reach her but just disappeared mid-air.
“Personal domain claimed,” she smiled and snapped her fingers. Instantly, the entire chamber around Jake disappeared, replaced with an entirely white void. Then, in the center of the void between Jake and the Architect, a very detailed three-dimensional projection of what looked like a large floating landmass appeared.
“This is a projection of a domain template that I assume would interest you. It includes a star and is primarily nature affinity, thus a good environment for plants to grow within. Underground, there are vast cave systems, with some caves having their own more unique affinities for you to grow other alchemical ingredients such as mushrooms and whatnot. By the way, I choose this template assuming you wish to use this domain to grow herbs,” Nevermore explained.
Jake looked at it as he got an idea.
“How long do we have for this customization part?”
“I will offer two hours at most.”
“Then, can you bring me there in person? Or make a replica?” Jake asked.
Nevermore raised an eyebrow but quickly did as he asked.
The environment shifted once more as Jake suddenly felt the world around him expand. From a white room, he appeared standing on soft grass, surrounded by greenery. Instinctively, he released a Pulse of Perception that revealed the entire floating island of sorts they were standing on, including the underground environment. It was about a hundred kilometers across with a depth of forty or so.
“Thank you,” Jake said. “Do I need to bring my own herbs and such to plant?”
“A certain amount will be provided based on your performance in the House of the Architect. It’s part of the reward,” Nevermore answered.
“Got it,” Jake smiled. “Be right back.”
Jake instantly used One Step to teleport toward one of the holes leading underground. Going as fast as he could, Jake scouted the underground tunnels, went up above ground again, and went around as much of the island as he could while scanning everything. About forty-five minutes later, he was back at Nevermore.
“Aight, got some ideas.”
What Jake had done was take a quick trip with Sense of the Malefic Viper in full effect. He rarely used that part of the skill, but a part of it included the ability to sense environments that were good for cultivating herbs and whatnot. With this trip, Jake had a good idea of where he wanted to plant stuff and, what’s more, the places he wanted Nevermore to modify a bit to make it better.
The next hour was spent with Jake and Nevermore quickly fixing all the things Jake wanted fixed. When it came to herbs, Jake had Nevermore just throw in all the hemotoxic and necrotic toxins she could in the underground. This did mean Jake also now had a lake of blood deep underground in this personal space, so it was probably good it wasn’t a place visitors could go to.
Above ground, it was primarily just flowers and then a whole lot of trees and herbs Jake had no idea about. When it came to any excess “reward” energy or whatever he had been given, Jake just allowed Nevermore to give him whatever she thought was good.
Finally, Jake went to the Attendants in this special little realm. There were ten of them total, and they all simply copied Jake’s level. They also apparently had some weird dungeon-specific skills to take care of the place, and Jake only had to give them basic commands to ensure the herbs grew well.
With everything done, Jake stood proudly alongside Nevermore. “Thanks for the help.”
“Just in time, too,” Nevermore said. “I hope what is cultivated here can bring you benefits in the future. I say this knowing full well you will likely not step foot in this space before you arrive at Nevermore in B-grade... but by the time you do, this will likely be a treasure trove. Ah, and should you die, I shall happily reclaim everything.”
“I wouldn’t count on it… me dying and stepping foot in here for a good while both,” Jake grinned. “Once again, thanks for everything. This Challenge Dungeon is definitely in the top five of the ones I’ve done so far.”
“And with that little quip, I believe it is time to say our goodbyes. I look forward to seeing how your last years in here will play out and the ultimate outcome on the Leaderboards,” Nevermore said as she raised her hand to teleport him out.
Jake was ready to be teleported as one final question popped into his head. “One final thing! There was a meta-achievement for getting an overall 100% amplifier from all the Challenge Dungeons, right?”
Nevermore stopped her hand for a fraction of a second as she just smiled. “I guess you’ll have to find out after the Endless Journey.”
“So that’s a ye-“
He was teleported out and appeared in front of the Challenge Dungeon before he could finish his sentence, but he definitely took her non-answer as a confirmation.
Finding himself at the entrance to the five Challenge Dungeons once more, Jake quickly went a bit away to avoid being surrounded by people. He got a few weird looks as he had been teleported out mid-sentence and had let out a sound, but he quickly slipped away with everyone too busy doing their own stuff. Honestly, Jake was kind of lucky his usual get-up was a cloak and mask, as that wasn’t exactly a unique outfit.
Standing away from the crowd, Jake took quick status as he checked his Nevermore Points.
Nevermore Points: 1,141,916
He had built up quite a lot of points over all these Challenge Dungeons, and that was without even factoring in the ever-increasing percentage amplifiers that would come in at the end of Nevermore. Looking toward the many entrances to the Challenge Dungeons, Jake considered if he should wait a bit and see if he could contact his party members. However, after briefly checking the timer-painting the Sword Saint had given him when they split up and seeing there were over two and a half years left to do dungeons, Jake assumed chances were low anyone would be out and done by now.
With that in mind, there really was no need to delay as Jake quickly went straight from one Challenge Dungeon into another as it was time to finally take on the final one: the Endless Journey.
Comments
Emil
Man, I really liked house of the architect.
kuley
He was talking about a 100% multiplier from just the Challenge Dungeons, not Nevermore as a whole.
Rippchord
Doesn’t he already have 100% in multipliers right now from the 80% in challenge dungeons, 15% for beating Minaga, and the 5% for saving the witch?
kiwi
Aren't we experiencing the endless journey right now? Is he about to do Nevermore all over again?
BumAssBumAss
Wasn't the endless journey once called neverending journey? I feel like I saw that before
Jeff McCulley
I have a question… “That means it will be under the influence of the time dilation inherent to the World Wonder.” Well, we know that the World Wonder has a graduated time dilation. So, what level will the private area be set at? That of Level One? Level Fifty? Level 100? Or that of the Level Jake and his party have currently completed, Level Seventy? Because anything would literally be an improvement over Level One.
Jeff McCulley
I suspect Villy might have picked up Duskleaf AFTER his fall…
Jeff McCulley
I think that a conversation with Villy will change his perspective.
jazz
Victor- winner winner chicken dinner. A direct deposit of 50 Nevermore credits will be sent to your account
Paperback Hail6
I don't know if that would work. Minaga is a living being and Jake is the only one allowed in that space. So shouldn't using that in the domain be impossible?
Paperback Hail6
No hear is a thought. The endless journey may just be a endless journey lol
Darthnarciss
I don't feel that way. Whether or not we agree with Jake's decision, it makes sense with his thought process. Teaching can be a very personal experience, and watching his first true student destroy himself reaching his goal, messed him up. Just becuase he denounces it currently, doesn't mean he won't work through that trauma at a later time and be all the "better" for it. Remember, we are viewing this through the lens of readers, while Jake is experiencing this all first hand, he's too close to the events and people, he just sees what he did and the outcome, sees other ways he could have done it, and is now paralyzed with hindsight. Add to that that the only one he's talked to about it so far is Nevermore, not even a friend, and yeah. He's hurting and needs a shoulder to lean on. From what we've seen so far, almost everytime Jake has "failed" it has been his fault for not preparing enough or not being strong enough yet. So those were on him. This Temlat situation, and the majority of his interactions with El'hakaan were interpersonal "failures". Something he's not good at dealing with, without time and others to lean on.
Luna
Same here :)
JJB4345_80_815
Oh, yeah, Royal Road is right at the Valdemar fight in the Colosseum of Mortals, right? Welcome! I bet you ain't the only one unable to resist the urge to read ahead! Just beware of the Cliffs on Fridays! It makes the weekends feel a month long and shockingly not in a good way! 👍
JJB4345_80_815
I was TERRIFIED of that movie! That flying snake dog creeped me the F*** out. I refused to watch that movie for like two full decades afterwards. When someone begged me to rewatch it I wondered why I was so scared of it but still to this day I have a mental block of that movie. I can't remember anything about the plot, just that creepy @$$ flying snake dog... Therefore, please Zogarth, no flying snake dogs! 🙏🙏🙏
JJB4345_80_815
Arnold also got 20% from Minaga's Labyrinth and his team also defeated a Minaga clone without losing anybody (If I recall correctly) so he should also have 25% from that as well. Bent Sommer - did Arnold get 25% from the Test of Character or was it actually 20%? Sadly, we don't know if Arnold's team earned any 5% achievements on other floors, but I think it's safe to assume that they got at least one... I'm kinda thinking that Arnold is between 90-100% total so about 15-20% behind Jake???
Mats
I want to know what hiss points was for those. 🤔 one of Jakes was close to perfect. 😁
Govir Drauka
I’m really glad this worked out where I joined the Patreon right when this was the most recent chapter. :)
Govir Drauka
I was half expecting him to ditch his 10th creation and submit himself instead. :)
SqrlyGrly
Arnold uses Eldritch runes and void stuff as a C grade. That allows for a lot of new records. Its like the marble where it is something that shouldn't be possible at their grade. And each creation he turned in would definitely be unique. He makes something for everything and everyone.
Numbzy
I largely see Endless Journey to be two possibilities. One is more metaphoric and one is literal. The metaphoric one is some sort is dedication test to test whether or not you are capable of focusing on a goal in some sort of quasi-test to see if you reaching godhood is likely. They will test your resolve to your own goals to see if you give them up or maintain them. The second is the literal. It's literally a Neverending Journey that you can quit at any point. So it's a test of patience and perseverance. Probably some sort of "follow the road" with either enemies or adverse environments to make the journey difficult.
Numbzy
I would also argue that those are probably some of the most impactful records for Jake from this place too. I feel like Temlat is setting the stage for Jake's future true apprentice. And his experience from this place will heavily color his interactions in the future.
Sterban Friz
I think you made a shoddy excuse for him to never teach again
Austin Richins
That said, I'm really excited to find out what the endless journey is. My guess is an infinite sandbox, starting with a simple quest that goes down a rabbit hole.
Austin Richins
It would have been fun to see a Beast-wave type of challenge. Jake typically squares off against higher level opponents, even when facing numbers, but aside from his big-game-hunter skill, his abilities could easily revolve around executions en masse.
Michael Fannon
Makes sense when it was explained why though.
Michael Fannon
80 for the challenge dungeons. 115 for total (25 from Minaga, 5 from dark witch, 5 mentioned in time skip chapter as only other bonus they got). Jake needs to get at least 20 for this next dungeon to get the 100 he's aiming for.
John Grizzly
So get as far as you can like minagis dungeon? Because if so he is gunna work that place lol
Jonathon Corralejo Levotch
journey will be..
Jonathon Corralejo Levotch
Oooo I wonder what the endless jounreh
Ty Cooper
Ahh. I see. It is only a one way view. Not what Temlat did for Jake. Just what Jake did for Temlat.
Kradish
Even with Arnold effectively specialising in crafting, we've not really seen anything suggesting that he is capable of producing 10 creations on the level of marble/grimoire/legendary skill/Temlat. Especially with the uniqueness factor, which I think one of the watch party commented on in connection with Arnold, Arnold has only really demonstrated artificer style creations. It also feels like all the creations we've seen from Arnold have been kinda 'thats really good' but we're talking really good not 'wtf you made something impossible'. There is also the feel that the dungeon rewards going wide rather than going tall - 4 peak creations are much worse than 10 more mediocre (if only by comparison) creations, even though creating a higher number of (relatively) mediocre creations isn't really as impressive. There is also the feeling after being told that Arnold got a 25% a few chapters ago, with no real details provided on it, that nothing Jake could do would measure up. This is even though stuff like the Grimoire/Temlat/Marble aren't just special for HotA (with the constraints - time/learning/resource) but are kinda wtf level creations for any C grade in the multiverse (and marble even for a B or A grade). The timing of Arnold reveal feels a bit like an observer being told that Bob got 105% on his test before you've even sat yours - nothing you can do from that point is particularly impressive in comparison. It might have felt better if we found out at the end that Arnold got a 25%, combined with a 'wtf did you even do?!' unveiling to demonstrate the difference.
Numbzy
"While some of your Creations were classified as mediocre in our earlier discussion, they are certainly not seen as such from a more general viewpoint." That was the sentence I was looking for yesterday. Also, I love how Jake almost sees 20% bonuses as the "average" when it is by no means average at all.
Irakli Jishkariani
Aah yeah duskleaf was in some kind of misery too. And he used curses. Jake would have fucked up there. Good job villy. That must have been hard.
JJMand
Well yeah, he got the 25% achievement in those, so of course there are more points as well.
Alex
He got only 10 in the character test.
Benjamin Mages
He also cleared those with what was basically the highest score possible so I'd be surprised if it wasn't less.
Kyler
Actually I think he only needs 10%? He’s got two 25%, and two and 20% right?
kry
I love Arnold and I’m glad he’s doing well. I doubt he did well in the labyrinth (and we already know he didn’t in the colosseum) so I doubt his score is sneaking up on Jake’s, but it’ll still be up there for sure.
Sam Rosenberg
The 86.109 points is a lot less than the 113.821 he got in the Colloseum and 148.205 in the Labrynth
He also said I got another 5% during the time skip so a total of 30% not including the challenge dungeons
Ted Burgess
Let us leave vs 🥬 lettuce leaf? Either way, that’s a (lettuce) wrap.
Grond (James)
I bet he'll get 25% on the last one also
john henderson
don't worry, Jake will forget about it too.
Ted Burgess
I’m a luck dragon!
Jeff McCulley
What I find ironic is that Jake keeps harping on the outcome of his teaching, and now swears that he’ll wait before he takes another student and he even more hands-off… …when ALL of the things that are upsetting him are the results of his CHOICE of a student. All that he has to do to change that is NOT choose a student whose only real gift is curse energy based on a short term desire for revenge—and whose one single goal in life is utterly destroying the system he grew up in. That and teach with a holistic approach, not one based on narrow, short term results. Just look how long Duskleaf has been Villy’s student. Jake’s teaching technique was fine—for what he set out to do.
BelligerentGnu
Definitely doable, then. 20% from the last one.
HateMongerian
"Even if he had gotten two times 25%," Possibly changed to "Even if, two times, he had gotten 25%,"
Jeff McCulley
I’m hoping that Zogarth is going for irony, sarcasm or just being contrary…and despite the name, it’s 1-3 chapters. And Friday is the Cliffie for the evaluation?
Jeff McCulley
Life’s endless journey is always…learning. Jake has to go to school?
Jeff McCulley
10%
Neriath
I’m guessing he’s only including challenge dungeon bonus :)
Jeff McCulley
When only he could use it?
joel southard
Nice
Isley
good chappie
Hunter Thornton
Anybody else getting the feelin that this final challenge dungeon is gonna b like the endless story? For those of us old enough to remember the movie that is
Mat
What would be cruel
Darthnarciss
No, becuase that's not what he submitted, he submitted Temlats path, and the architect even said "“The evaluation will only take into account the impacts on his Path that you had,” the Architect clarified for Jake. “Be they directly or indirectly.”"
Darthnarciss
Arnold is Blessed by Oras, possibly Chosen, but most likely just some other high tier blessing. An Ancient void God. On top of that Arnold is a Crafter, and insanely sane. Of course he got a high ranking in the House, and based on his thought processes did "good" in the "personality test".
Pablo Barbatto
Can he install Minaga dungeon inside nevermore domain?
Michael
I think the grand achievements from his time before the challenge dungeons count as party grand achievement
Mohammed Sheekh
one was a dungeon run, one was crafting related, one was combat related, one was mentality related. endless dungeon would probably be a call of duty zombies kind of thing
Gavin
That's 30% off sir 😂
Mohammed Sheekh
that sucks
Joanna Newhard
The meta achievement was mentioned as being for the challenge dungeons only, not the normal floors.
Namorat
But he got 25% for the Minaga labyrinth, the same for the arena, now 20. But what did he get for the one he was “bad“ at?
Rudeus
Yeah, 80% from Dungeon Challenges only
Alex
So he needs one more 20%. I hope he gets it
Johnny_B
And also the Minaga one. But those wouldn't count towards the 100% meta achievement, only the challenge dungeons do.
Bent Sommer
And Arnold very close to him: 0% colloseum 25% test of character and 25% house of Architekts
Bent Sommer
A bit disappointed that Arnold is atleast on par with Jake with two 25% grand achievments
Bent Sommer
Absolute dissapointment! Especially when you considere that Arnold got the 25% --> how the hell did he created 10 outstanding items that are unique to another
Victor Augusto Dantas Ferreira
I thought of something similar but there's no journey there, so maybe an escort type of mission where he has to protect something while traveling
Bent Sommer
That would be awesome 😍 but that would mean 3 out of 5 are fighting related
Blackened
Thanks for the chapter!
Finn
He was talking about the dungeons for the meta-achievement. "There was a meta-achievement for getting an overall 100% amplifier from all the Challenge Dungeons, right?" Karmic plague wasn't in the challenge dungeons. Same with fighting and beating Minaga.
Ty Cooper
Good chapter. I was surprised that Jake's personal lesson on his teaching style didn't play a factor also. I mean he learned a lot about himself and what-not during his teaching and the aftermath. Are those not records also, just a side affect?
Sam Rosenberg
Nice chapter. I will certainly forget about the garden and then be surprised in a year when it does something
edgardo rossi
He has the grand achievement of the karmic plague (+5%) chapter 725
edgardo rossi
He has the grand achievement of the karmic plague (+5%) chapter 725
Grond (James)
Challenge Dungeon Bonuses Arena = 25% Test of Character = 10% Labyrinth = 25% House of the Architect = 20% Total = 80% I just checked.
JJB4345_80_815
Thank you for the chappy Zogarth! I really like the approach the Architect took in explaining Temlat's path. I wasn't a big fan of the curse stuff and Temlat's Holistic Approach, but how the Architect told Jake about what Temlat's demise would have been otherwise and how he'd affected that change and told Jake not to mourn for Temlat because he achieved what he wanted to and was able to fulfill his path while also choosing how to end it all... I just really appreciated the closure for Temlat...
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Naotsugu97
Thanks for the chapter. Tbh I get super wary whenever you claim there’s no cliff! Lol! Also, on Paragraph 4 iirc, “His death would incur in an attempt to attack a major “ I believe incur should be occur.
Glen Johnson
"Then let up wrap this up with the final overall conclusion of this evaluation" - perhaps let us - instead of let up?
Omar Jimenez
… Please no.
JJB4345_80_815
"Then let up wrap this up..." I believe should be "Then let us wrap this up..." One too many ups
Jason Hardman
Well at least he didn't end up seducing the architect as part of his "contribution".
brennon Petersen
80 iirc. For just the challenge dungeons.
Mat
Someone is making Villy one proud snake
Namorat
I can't remember the modifier from the other dungeons combined. Was it 80%? (25+25+20+10?)
JJB4345_80_815
10 for the Test of Character (not 15) aka the acid trip
Asas
From challenge Dungeons? Yes, 80 % in total. Total bonus from all floors and dungeons? 115 %
lockx
I think they were after the ones from this floor. In which case it'd be 25 + 25 + 10 + 20
Pablo Barbatto
Whats his current percentage? 25,25,20,10?
JJB4345_80_815
25% both from the Colosseum of Mortals AND Minaga's Labyrinth. 10% from the test of character and 20% from the House of the Architect, so 80% so far from the challenge dungeons. His Nevermore team got 25% for beating Minaga (Edit: proof read Chapter 709: Nevermore - A Grand Achievement) 5% from the Karmic Plague world and another 5% was mentioned gained by the team on another floor without much specificity. Noted in the chapter (Edit: 737: Nevermore: Time Skip Status - which another commentator - Endern - also noted) where Jake is about to enter the Colosseum of Mortals. So he's currently at a 115% multiplier.
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Olof Karlsson
Thanks for the chapter!
Aidan
"for you to grow other alchemical ingrediens" -> ingredients
Endern
Add 5% to that. In chapter 737 Time Skip Status: He would rate floors forty to seventy rather disappointing in the challenge aspect, and they had only gotten a single more Grand Achievements outside of the Dark Witch one. That one also “only” provided a 5% bonus at the final calculation, making the Minaga one still stand out.
Joseph
For challenge dungeons he is at 80%. 25 + 10 + 25 + 20. Needs 20 in the last one to get the meta achievement.
Sébastien Kingsbury
I think he's at 85 for the challenge dungeons so far. 25 colloseum, 25 labyrinth, 20 architect, and 15 for the acid trip one I can't remember the name of maybe?
Kris Boxall
80 for the Challenge Dungeons
BerciTheBeast
TFTC!
Nikolai Beckel
thanks for the chappie, interesting to see how this story will progress
john henderson
Beautiful! Thanks man! I suck at a teacher -> as a teacher even after he was with his slaughter -> even after he was [done/finished/etc] with his slaughter (or other potential revision to complete this thought)
Joseph
80 from challenge dungeons. 25 Coliseum 10 from Wyrmgod personality test 25 from Mingas finally the 20 for his 10 creations. Additionally 25 for beating Minga the first time and 5 for saving the Dark Witch. So 110 total.
jazz
Taking bets on what the Endless Journey is. 50 nevermore points on beast wave archetype
Decibel790
I can be happy that despite how much I believe I suck *at* a teacher, at least others value what Temlat managed Just needs changed to as. Really liked this challenge dungeon for Jake, and it's very satisfying to see temlats evaluation. Thanks for the chapter, and I'm very curious to see what the endless journey looks like!
Jaydan Man
I cant wait for the final dungeon, but a bit disappointed he didnt get another 25%.
KollegvomMirgan
Don't forget that they got multipliers as a party too.
Jaydan Man
80 or 85% i think. 25, 25, 10 or 15, 20 so far. I think anyway
bobthepinecone
tftc
Nimps
Nice cheers, what's his total percentage at now? 75 or 80?
Mohammed Sheekh
can someone add up the percentage total jake achieved so far
Arrogant Savant
Inb4 Endless Journey = Endless chapters
Gavin
I know he is over at least 60% but I can't remember is current multiplier. I have no idea what to expect from this last challenge dungeon
Branden platt
She loves the last word and I’m here for it
Julian
And then it turns out that the endless journey is horribly misnamed and is actually just a five minute walk.
Valhazstromoz
Lmao nevermore is so sassy with Jake in a kuudere way it's hilarious
Yaldabaoth
Ye!
AA
Lol just came looking
BlackRazaras
Thanks for the chapter!
Travis Estes
Tftc
