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Chapter 830 - Nevermore: An Ingenious Mind

🕑 Added 2024-01-17 11:53:26 +0000 UTC

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sknasen

Seems like one Jake will excel in because of his intuition about people and sphere of perception to stay out of sight.

Zogarth

Nej, er en sub-model hvor du kan betale månedligt og så "låne" en masse bøger. Faktisk rigtig godt for både kunder og forfattere inden for min genre med lange bøger da man bliver betalt per side læst.

Casper Høll Andersen

Ohh, så er det nok derfor jeg ikke har hørt om det. Jeg var kortvarigt meget forvirret over at KU skulle have et samarbejde med kindle eller audible

Zogarth

Kindle Unlimited. Noget vi som danskere desværre ikke engang har adgang til :P

Casper Høll Andersen

KU? Københavns Universitet?

Olof Karlsson

Thanks for the chapter!

Michael Meyer

he got the 10% from minaga if you count that (defeating minaga i mean)

Jeff McCulley

I wondered that too. Then I realized that at heart he’s supposed to be telling a story (his own), and that requires inherent creativity. I’d think that diversity would be a challenge, though. Thought about his Challenges. Probably didn’t get a 20 in Minaga’s Labyrinth by himself. And not sure just where the images in the Colosseum would have stated putting up resistance. Champion? The Grand champion level? No way he got recognition at the end.

Johnny_B

There is no way Elky performed well in Arena and Minagas. He isnt that exceptional in direct combat. So ToC and EJ he probably can get full marks with good in HoA but subpar (for elites) in ML and AoM

Bent Sommer

I thought the same thing and Zogarth blesses us with a quick 3 chapter wrap up of how awesome jakes bloodline is

Johnny_B

He probably made a ton of creations using manipulated people in the dungeons

kry

kinda confused how Elly could do well in the architect challenge dungeon, considering that Nevermore threw Jake out so often so that he didn’t pick up anything with his bloodline. I would think she would also throw Elly out for bloodline shenanigans 👀

jord

What's the running total for Jake's modifier? we got two 25's and a twenty, plus 10 lands us at a 80% modifier, but I feel like I'm missing something

Forrest Williamson

I can already picture the Star Wars droid army conducting siege warfare to deliver a pair of socks to a kingdom that is in complete lockdown..

Numbzy

That's not entirely fair of an assement. So Jacob, Casper and William would have had some sort of interactions with their respective factions even without Jake. Remember Jake's tutorial was so messed with precisely because of Jacob becoming an Augur and Williams condition. Now you can argue the level of their blessings is because of Jake. Jacob and William would probably not change. Eversmile still would have preformed his experience with William and Jacob would still be an Augur of Hope with a high level blessing from The Holy Mother. Jacob even got his blessing before Jake completed the tutorial. So the Holy Mother definitely didn't know exactly how capable Jake was at that point yet. Now Casper is the big change imo. He didnt recieve his blessing until after Jake completed the tutorial. So he would still be an undead, but only mentored by that S Grade that he first had. He might get a blessing later on, but doubtfully from the Blightfather personally. Probably one of the other undead gods under his banner though. Just my 2 cents though.

TG

I love the series but these challenge dungeons are extremely drawn out.

Finn

I think the harder part for the 25% will be NPC's trying to use him with the quests they give him. I just hope his intuition will save him for to many Moral Dilemmas.

Finn

Hmm, not sure i have the patience to read another 20+ chapter challenge dungeon. Especially if it is only fetch quest after fetch quest which also sounds like a hell of a lot of cliffs. Might take a break till the story is past this dungeon to get it over with in one session. Though TftC!

Helios

I don't know if he does though what will he do in the architect room to get him a high score plus we have no idea how he did in the labyrinth we only know that he did decent in the colosseum dungeon and got I believe it was 25 for story

Aurora1325

is it a featch quest if you are delving some thing

BelligerentGnu

He replaced endless escorts quests with endless fetch quests? Has he never played a video game?

Andrew K

Just saying someone did well is still fairly ambiguous in this context - at the universal scale, even hitting the 10% level is considered doing well, and even 15% seems to be a fairly big deal for most elites.

Ty Cooper

Elky didn't beat Valdy though so that is a demerit for sure

Ty Cooper

Right! He will see all the ambushes way before they have a chance to get him.

Andrew K

That's definitely just the books Amazon concretely knows about and can sell to you, so it's limited to currently available books plus however many the publisher puts up for preorder. Preorders generally only go up once the publishing process is far enough along the publisher is pretty certain they'll be able to hit the release date (as Amazon apparently really doesn't like pre-order dates getting pushed back, reflecting that actual customers are generally not too happy either) and preorders too far out in the future have their own problems, so it's rare to see Amazon know about more than 1-2 books that aren't released yet in any given series.

Crysus

Finally got to hear Sandy‘s voice Am I the only one that was imagining a childlike voice like Stormild? Also remembered how frustrated I am with how lightly Arthur got off after all the trouble he caused 😤

Mat

In the colosseum, Wrymgod just told Villy that he did well so I expect 20%.

Mat

He could have done well in Minaga dungeon too considering that he could have influenced the gate keepers on the shortcut roots

Simon Andriessen

Ell'Hakan has a better shot at the 100% total than Jake at this point. They both had 2 they could break pretty easily (and Ell'Hakan had one he could break partly), and Jake 'tanked' at Test of Character (at least in comparison), while Ell'Hakan has no obvious weak spot. Unless he somehow messed up Minagas Labyrinth really badly.

Jacob Shaw

100%

Simon Andriessen

Birb is just a softening of the word bird. It's intentional and in universe use of the word, not an error if that was what you thought. Birb is also a word used in memes (irl).

Simon Andriessen

Do we have any news on how he did in the Colosseum? I don't think he'd impress Valdemar, there's just no emotionally manipulating him into something so central to his being. So the question is whether he even got to Valdemar... I could see someone like the Monk resisting his bloodline or the Necromancer just being beyond his damage potential... not to mention Umbra. Those 3 together could've burned through all his lives. Even then, if he gets both Test of Character and Never Ending Journey to 25%, and gets 15% for the colosseum and Minagas Labyrinth, then 20% for House of The Architect... he'd still make it to 100%. Maybe he only gets 10 for Minagas? That seems like a stretch. Damn Ell'Hakan is as much if not more of a cheat than Jake...

Simon Andriessen

I mean, if you take his bloodline out of the equation he's high-tier, but not top-tier. Even combat-wise he wouldn't do well against those that his bloodline have no effect on, and things like scouting, puzzle-solving and such aren't really his strong suits.

Alex Cox

Birb is a meme word for cute bird

Kyle

The Dungeon seems to place an emphasis on political intrigue. I can’t help but feel there’s zero chance Jake does anything but smash through all obstacles like a wrecking ball. This will be the spectator sport the gods have been waiting on for sure.

James Faulkner

Tftc!

Ted Burgess

Makes sense. Thanks for the clarifications!

Donald Carter

Even his author’s notes are funny

Scott Schluter

Anyone else get Dr. Robotnik vibes from Arnold?

kingofshibainu

This one seems fun, like grand theft Auto. Jake plays a video game! With the set up though, I'm almost certain Elky is going to ruin away with a 25% score. It's just very well suited for his skills.

Luke Scheffe

Bloodlines are outside, but not beyond, the system. After it refused to let Jake even detect its avatar using his bloodline, I doubt it’ll let elly influence him.

Luke Scheffe

Of the era’s leaderboards, sure. I feel she was talking about the general leaderboards.

joel southard

Nice

Mat

If I am not wrong El’hakan bloodline allows him to influence and not necessary control. The fact that it is a bloodline means it work outside of the system naturally laws. This means that he can and most likely influenced the bound god. Minaga was different because his clones are all real unlike situations were a god has avatars in case of Nevermore instances but also a real version. We know he has been able to influence Yip of yore a peak god. On harming god using the system is not possible because bloodlines operate outside the system because the system allows them to. Also I doubt influencing at this stage can cause any damage to a god from another if they didn’t already wanted to

Alison Blair

Thanks for the chapter!

Vinstro

On the list! On the list! On the list! Let's get you to the charts and back! Thanks again for the chapter Zogarth! Can't wait to see Jake's speed run or shenanigans during delivery routes 😀

Tetrisman87

I'm pretty sure it's just the current new release and the next that's further away. Since the story isn't over yet, they wouldn't know how many books to add.

Bent Sommer

Why not minaga? I know he cant work his bloodline with him but he is powerful

Jeff McCulley

Glancing at the book intro on Kindle… “Meeting up with the best birb, Sylphie…” Is this supposed to be “bird”, or is “birb” a slang term that out of touch me is not familiar with? Because “bae” threw me for a minute.

Zadumu

Im not even sure he will be top 10. On top of modifiers you also have to consider nevermore points in general. Im thinking that in order to get top 10 you have to not only do extremely well and get modifiers in the group sections of nevermore but also do at least decent in all of the challenge dungeons. I think doing poorly in any of the challenge dungeons will push someone out of the top spots.

Zadumu

I don't think Jake was criticized as much as it affected the uniqueness of each submission. For better or for worse Jake's bloodline is a huge part of who he is as a person and it's influence is a big part of what and how he creates. On the other hand, void magic is just a tool in Arnolds tool kit, just one of many things Arnold uses to do what he does and I think saying he has a "complete dependence" on it isnt exactly true. Arnold was still creating before void magic and would have likely found work arounds even if he never got access to it. Void magic isnt part of Arnold.

Mat

From this I am guessing El’hakan will have at least 20% in all the challenge dungeons except Minaga’s. Most likely 25% in test of character and or never ending journey

Zadumu

Its been heavily implied that this is all kind of Jake's fault. Jake's bloodline passively impacts everyone around him making anyone he interacts with for any length of time grow exponentially. Jake knew Jacob and Casper pre-system plus along with William they were in the same tutorial where a new chosen was selected so of course the other primordials were going to be interested. You could also argue that Holy Church and the Risen are two giants factions and arent anymore involved in Earth than anywhere else. The Sword Saint and Sylphie getting introduced to God's is directly related to Jake. I would argue the King isnt really from Earth and just has a connection to Jake. Carmen is likely due to Jake's records thing again. She originally just had a connection with Valhalla but was unsure of her path. Jake basically solidified her path and helped her gain the confidence to forge a connection with Valdemar. Eren has his own bloodline but I think his interactions with Jake and the incident with the King is what pushed him into the Daofathers arms. Personally, I think the only person who forged a connection purely on their own merit is Arnold.

Areshan

They made a comment a few chapters earlier on how the challenge dungeon used to give an immediate 25% to bloodline holders due to completely unique records, if I interpreted it correctly, the system basically overcompinsated and made it so that all of a bloodlines records counted as a sudo mana affinity, which in turn made all of jakes creations very similar due to its prevalence in his creation process.

Tomer Yud

Good luck making the list!

Mathias

Well, he still has to defend whatever he is delivering and once the difficulty level rises he probably wont be able to imo. Theres also the posibility that he cant accept more than one job at the same time

Mat

25% architecture house, 20% Minaga dungeon, 20% test of character, unknown colosseum

Rui Lourenço

He's just not a contender for top 1. I think that's what Nevermore meant.

Greg Lambert

Escort a missing cat to a water based goblin dungeon

Bent Sommer

Why 65% ? I thought Just Just his two Times 25% are known as well as his massiv failure in the colloseum

TFTC. Now it's time to reread some mushroom-slaughter and to preorder book 9 :-)

Adam Fellon

Arnold was building and designing machines well before he got void magic. He still does. Void magic is an aspect of his system not the core focus or the goal. We also don’t know of half of his products so assuming their nature or function feels like a jump.

Hezekiah Laguatan

Nothing like waiting until 2am(hst) for a primal hunter chapter

Numbzy

I mean I'm sure he will be on the list, but there is a big difference between 10th place and 2nd place.

Joseph Irdanto

While everyone else is playing RPG, Arnold is min-maxing Factorio casually.

Sam Rosenberg

Great chapter, and I was happy to support the book! Wow it is far behind. Just wondering, it says book 8 of 9. Will there be more than 9 books in the end? Does the book differ much than the chapters already posted here

Andrej Ďurech

I think it has to do with the bloodline being outside of the system while Oras's void magic is inside of the system and as such not as big of a cheat

Ryan Ulrich

I protest that Arnold can’t make the leaderboards with an already 70% amplifier. I think he could do well in the Endless Journey by making a few drones and effectively becoming this Dungeon’s equivalent of Amazon. Joking aside, I find it hard to believe that he wouldn’t be well up the list. Thoughts?

Isley

good chappie

Glen Johnson

To be honest I pre ordered book 8 on audible a week or two ago and have since been waiting with baited breath. To be honest Jake has way more patients than I do. Found another thing for you to fix, this time a combined word. Valdemar and the Blightfatherdid also have a brief exchange

Karim Saadi

This is gonna be great, another easy 25%. Sphere is cheating in locating his targets and this bloodline in catching threats (not that anyone would even see him!)

Ted Burgess

Not tracking how Jake is criticized for his reliance/ inability to extricate himself from the impact of his bloodline, while Arnold is lauded for his complete dependence on Oras’s void magic. It seems like a contradiction. What am I missing?

Mat

Arnold is already at 65% know amplifier to overall score from the challenge dungeons, how is he not a contender for the leaderboards?

JJB4345_80_815

Yes, thank you for the chappy Zogarth and good luck with your sales achievement!

JJB4345_80_815

AND Wings of the Malefic Viper if he gets in a bind & he can play around with his Legendary stealth skill & his Sphere of Perception... He's gonna ball out

Robin

I hope elhakan didn‘t use his bloodline on the architect but used it some other way to get his high score, because the architect/nevermore has the same „infinite“ instances of oneself who share one mind as had minaga and secondly because this would mean he can influence a god who is also closely tied to the system and I dont think the other gods would let elhakan live if he can PERSONALLY harm them in any way while still in C Grade. Yes Jake can resist their presence but that is it, he can‘t influence or harm them while Elhakan could make them do stuff they don‘t want to do. Also Nevermore knew beforehand about his bloodline so she should have taken precautions against beeing influenced by it.

JJB4345_80_815

Well, some of that is due to Villy (& Jake). Villy basically recruited for Stormild (Sylphie) and Aeon Clock (The Sword Saint). When Jake was transported to the God TV room in Nevermore: [redacted] & Aura Measuring Contest, the Blightfather response to Jake's Aura was an insight gained as to why Casper could do so well under the Blightfather's presence and THAT most likely had an affect on the quality of the blessing/reward that the Blightfather gave Casper.

Zizawah

Very good point. I do wonder what El’hakan did and how many points he got in terms of percentage

Joshua Smock

As a truck driver I am definitely interested in this next challenge dungeon.

Archmage37

TFTC

Flusspferd

Looks like it is time to work on one-mile step and his ability to keep his sphere expanded. Under the assumption that he can even make skill upgrades in here.

BumAssBumAss

Surprised nevermore said Arnold wasn't a contender for the leaderboards. 65% is high on the realm of genius. Wasn't it said before that 70% was nearly unheard of? Arnold might still appear in the top 10.

Unnskyld

Especially now that he, through the house of the architect, has worked on a optimized automation system(and while that was for some separate area the concepts can still be applied to any task or planet). He could get a seriously amazing score.

Ansordia

TYFTC! finally I have another 18hours to listen to while I play

Dave

Good chapter

Zizawah

Getting both today. Thanks for the chapter! I wonder how Jake would compare to Ryan Romano for having perfect delivery!

BerciTheBeast

TFTC!

Mohammed Sheekh

he can use one step and win easy

NSaaby

allready saw the book on my recomended list :D

Decibel790

Thanks for the chapter, and good luck getting on that chart!

Shup Idot

Good luck on the charts

Jana

Sure, but that’s not exclusive to earth. It was stated that these records affect a lot of pre system worlds but none have this kind of presence.

Kaibutsu

Escort aquatic creature in water world yay

Tyler S.

Got a nice long drive later today to listen to it

Tyler S.

Worse then water levels

Alexikon

Zogarth may get a 25% Nevermore achievement applied to his income.

Julian

The earth myths were allegedly karmic reverberations of prior universes, so it would make sense for people to also be affected.

brennon Petersen

Tftc!

Valhazstromoz

Yayyyyyyy the divine peanut gallery has returned!!!!!

Jana

I noticed some time ago that there are a hell of a lot connections between people from Earth and the Primordials, sometimes open sometimes just in their paths. We have Jake-The Viper, Carmen - Valdemar, Eron- Daofather, Sylphie -Stormild, The sword Saint - Aeon, William- Eversmile, Jacob - Holy Mother, Casper - Bligth Father, The King - Stargazing Titan (both unique lifeforms, so they are more separated) and now Arnold - Rigoria. Did I miss someone from Earth related to Yggdrasil and the Wyrmgod along the way?

Michael Fannon

Interesting concept. Yeah, Jake is going to be amazing here. And I disagree with Nevermore; Arnold has the endless drone swarms so I think he might end up being a one man Amazon company.

Naotsugu97

Fallout New Vegas starring Jake!

Triumphator

Should have kept it as escort quests, everyone loves those

Jordan

Death Stranding dungeon!

Gavin

Now this is a super weird dungeon. I don't doubt he'll do incredibly as sneaking up on Jake at his level is very difficult and his growth over the course of this dungeon has been remarkable and balancing.

Arrogant Savant

Arnold playing Factorio

Strato Junon

Eyy this sounds cool. Already had book 8 pre ordered on Kindle ofc

Pip Mitchell

Tftc! And already 3 hours in to audible of book 8 - loving it as usual!

BlackRazaras

Thanks for the chapter

Yaldabaoth

Wiohooo less goo!


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