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Chapter 857 - Nevermore: Chief Overseer

🕑 Added 2024-02-23 12:07:16 +0000 UTC

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Kconraw

Thx for the chapter

Endless Nature

Thanks for the chapter

Chase Burton

Thanks for the chapter!

AbsoluteBias

I doubt it, as his bloodline is tied to him within his truesoul, something the FK can't mess with.

Jay Doubleyou Kay

Hear hear? Hear here? Here hear? Idk, but I agree!

Jay Doubleyou Kay

Here here!

Olof Karlsson

Thanks for the chapter!

DirePants

Exactly! It’s like watching an anime and they show you recap of the last episode then the first 5 minutes are just the last five minutes of the previous episode then they put in a bunch of flash backs that were just seen a couple episodes ago lol I’ll tell you as person who’s worked in TV it’s done to save money/time while still meeting the quota of a 30 minute time slot. It’s similar for webnovels. You got your chapter, even if nothing important happened.

edgardo rossi

It's definitely happening on Friday for the cliffhanger

JJB4345_80_815

For some reason, my brain went straight to the sculptor on Earth who spent every waking minute of his working on Jake's "vision" of the Malefic Viper. While that would be hilarious, it would also be quite illogical. However, what if the Church of the Primordial devoted huge resources every era to compete for the Leaderboards since that would show their devotion to the Wrymgod??? I'd just find it funny that those wackadoodle worshipers would even have a shot at the top spot.

WannaBeATree

Nevermore with its significancy as a culture hub of the multiverse would have been perfect for character developement. When was the last time we were surprised because of a an action taken by a character? Like: for one floor they need to pick an ambassador and the other 4 will play attendants and they pick the king, because he learned to talk to "lesser beeings" during these 40y or maybe Dina, because she want to practice the stuff she learned from the old man. So many possibilities for development ... :/

Skyler Brown

so if u think nevermore is too long go read another book stop obsessing and come back later this man has been keeping this going every day i know you would feel that it wasant too long if u could lisen all the way through it the first time without knowing what happend next stop complaining and try guessing what might happen next with everybody els

Florian

yeah the one thing i dislike too, is that there is way too much explaination about a characters thoughts leading to their decisions or opinions. As if we didnt read all the chapters befor and cant understand the character enough without 5 paragraphs of explanation.

Mantiqore

No, spent time is still spent, and can’t be accelerated retrospectively. It just means that while the first day may be dilated to a minute, the 50th (arbitrary, choose any number you like for this example) day may be diluted to a second. So a person exiting on the 49th day will come out of nevermore one second before a person exiting on the 50th day.

DirePants

Glad this floor didn’t take weeks. While I love the fact that the story itself is long and gives us a deep look into the protagonist and the world, web novels have to be long and overly drawn out just so the daily readers have something to read on the daily. I would like to see abridged versions of these books. So much can be removed because the chapters often state information already expressed like a recap since which is helpful for a long web novel like this. But for the actual novel release it’s tiresome sometimes. I actually had never read a web novel until I came across this series through kindle and i remember I kept thinking “it reads like it was written for the internet.” Stil great story and great arc that I’m looking forward to ending lol

DirePants

We don’t call non English speakers dumb for not speaking English. We just speak a different measurement. 👊🏾

Psyren1596

Really loving this story! Sigh… I’ve just caught up and the wait for new chapters is killing meeeee.

Mohammed Sheekh

c grades live for thousands of years and he is less than 100 levels away from b grade

Kyle

Leveling seems a bit funky. Two in the first month and then the third isn’t til a year later after being constantly hounded by kill squads?

Chris

That’s silly. That’s like saying “just shut up and enjoy the suck”, because “I said so”. People rarely pay to live in the suck. A forum like this is an important feedback loop for the author if he’s smart. This is all pre-publishing, and sane commentary, good or bad, should influence the outcome. Patreon provides a vehicle to make money. Authors need money to live. Like any business, responding to changes in environment and listening to consumer feedback is how you get better, and protect the revenue stream. If you don’t, that can negatively affect the bottom line and eventually put you out of business.

Ty Cooper

I get both sides. I also get that some people have complained throughout what seems the whole of Nevermore and go on repeat cry almost every chapter. I also get that some parts seem to take forever when reading it chapter by chapter with weekend breaks. With all that said. I think it will all be great when it gets released on audible.

Ty Cooper

Lol 👍

Ty Cooper

I think it's true appeal will shine in audible

Ty Cooper

Well said

Myron Jabido

Thanks for the chapter Zogarth! I know a lot of the comments on here seem super critical, but just remember we’re all here cause we LOVE what you’ve created and want to support what you do! Keep on telling the story you want to tell!

Devin

I can get that to an extinct, but I do like the way it’s doing the growth, because I like this more than the general “he did stuff and got exponentially stronger” plus most of this is teaching the new universe about how/when/why to act and in what ways the multiverse works. Allowing most of everyone to have a similar “starting point” so to say. I like that this is basically explaining how the world really works

Mohammed Sheekh

oh look a white Knight has appeared to protect his master

Chris

Athyrium is absolutely right. The book itself, instead of feeling exciting and engaging feels like a grind for the reader. Most readers abandon literary works when they reach that point, especially when the grind grinds on needlessly. It’s really unfortunate. The series is still salvageable but the author needs to move on and get back to the storyline. I can’t imagine non diehard patron fans willingly signing up for the absolute slog through muddy water that Nevermore has become. I’m a big fan, and I’m only still a patron because everyday I tell myself we’re almost to the finish line, and remember how fun the series was prior to reaching Nevermore. Everyday we have more needless Nevermore content.

Andreas Berg Jensen

I really Think when the books catches up to nevermore it will feel a lot better. Reading it chapter for chapter might make it feel to Long for some, but i waited for a few months before splurging on patreon, and i really love the nevermore arc!

Tim

If it's actually a shit opinion, then yeah, but I feel like most of the criticisms come from people who love the story and want to remove as many obstacles (continuity, plotholes, immersion) as possible, so the most amount of people can enjoy the story too. That being said, a lot of people have a terrible time communicating that intent and instead end up sounding like Sylphie when she talks.

Greymantle

I've seen comments both for and against the length of the Nevermore arc. I agree with those who think it's gone on too long. I've been just skimming through or entirely skipping chapters going back at least to the the start of the Courier challenge dungeon. The problem for me is that the Nevermore challenges are fantasy worlds within a fantasy world. I can get my suspension of disbelief to the point where I care about the characters, societies, and worlds in Primal Hunter. But it's a 'step too far' for me to care about characters/societies/worlds identified as not being real within Primal Hunter itself, i.e., those within the artifical challenges created by Nevermore. That's why the Valdemar fight in the Colosseum challenge was actually interesting, because it did relate directly to the "real" Primal Hunter world, namely through the impression it made upon the real Valdemar. By contrast, the alliances made within, e.g., the Courier dungeon had no actual meaning or impact on the "real" world of Primal Hunter, and thus ultimately were meaningless except purely as a challenge for the protagonists. That's not to say some pure consequence-free challenges aren't interesting. But when it goes on for a few books worth, it becomes uninteresting (at least for me).

Michael Fannon

The end is coming soon. Just these last few floors, then we get to the end and the leaderboard. Assuming this pace continues and we (hopefully) get a few more side chapters, we should be out of nevermore in a few weeks.

JC

What a dumb take. Just because i dont agree with being a blind sycophant i now have a shit opinion? No ones allowed to criticize the author at all? How about every should be allowed to express whatever they want as long as its not rude or just plain harassment?

Athyrium

I get the grind, but there's a limit, the limit was back at 8-9 months of nothing but Nevermore content... March will make a YEAR of Nevermore

KenTX325

The coliseum dungeon was 45 chapters. That’s half a book as average book length is 75 chapters. Only about 5 fights were meaningful and rest were fill to show how awesome Jake is by only using kicks. Should be edited to no more than 20 chapters. That arc had no plot other than fighting Valdemar and meeting other gods. It’s too long and needs an edit. I’m trying to be helpful not mean. I would be pissed if I bought a book and 1/2 was one challenge dungeon.

Cnewton84

I think after he upgraded it the name changed to “one step thousand miles” or something. With his new boots he might be close to upgrading it again

Titaniumtac

By mark I meant FK soul mark, especially as he/it is currently bound to jake

Dan

I lowkey hope if anyone beats Jake's score, it's Arnold lmao

John Looney

U mean Arnold hacks them and turns the whole network into a battery for himself I can see that

Sam Rosenberg

Nice chapter. It’s been a while since a good fight

Titaniumtac

Can Jake use his sphere through the mark at some point?

Tragic Hysteria

Deep stone crypt?

Matt Spratte

Thank you so much for the chapter and the incredible story, hope you still get free time to read other stories as well Z.

John Balman

Leveling at its finest

Matt Spratte

Are you saying nevermore doesn't matter to the story? The story is about Jake's journey to godhood, nevermore is a huge part of that. The powerup alone has been massive. Jake now vs him before going wouldn’t even be a fight. I know its long but dont say it doesn't matter to the story. The story is about jake becoming top god of everything.

Matt Spratte

Facts!

Matt Spratte

Me being a dumb American, I had to Google what 10 km were in miles and it's 6 miles. So that was 2 steps that Jake did. Did he ever stop to realize he can now go further than a mile with 1 step. Or did I miss that?

BlackRazaras

Thanks for the chapter!

Isley

good chappie

JJB4345_80_815

Yes, thank you for the chappy, Zogarth!

Seth Taylor

I thought the Nevermore arc has been quite full, and it glossed over the long grind at the right points. We didn't need 30 years of content, but the labyrinth floors were great. The labyrinth challenge dungeon was glossed over, but colosseum, House and Journey were the much needed diversity. I have thoroughly enjoyed the Nevermore arc.

Seth Taylor

Can't say I agree. It's about the grind; getting Jake to the level he can fight a b grade prima for his planet. Yeah, it's a grind, but that's what it's about. Do you want a short story where he kills the big bad and you're left with less than stellar content after?

Bent Sommer

So how much time left? Should be hard to reach floor 80?!

Robert Gallup

Seeing all these people go “ i love the books but *insert shit opinion here* “ like lets just enjoy what Zog has created and ride along for jakes journey to the top. Zog has a vision and i trust he is doing what he thinks is right for the series and the progression. If you dont agree keep your shit opinion to yourself unless you’re a litrpg writer who’s successful and then again keep your shit opinion to yourself.

James Lucas

[Overseer Prime - lvl 320] would have been hilarious 😂

joel southard

Nice thank you for the chapter

Chris

100%, and the we left the diminishing returns bucket months ago.

Chris

Nevermore feels like content for the sake of content. There have been a few chapters sprinkled in with interesting things to read, the rest, is much of the same.

Christian Sullivan

What if Jake doesn't get #1 and it goes to some other random dude nobody has heard about. Lol

jackalsclaw

Since the time dilation gets stronger the deeper they go does that mean that the deeper you reach in nevermore the faster you finish?

jackalsclaw

Definitely chould take control of golems

Tyromeinabox

Yeah, I was having the same issue that Myron mentioned. A whole year and targets probably higher level and no additional levels. Plus one of the themes of last chapters and this was that they reinvigorated their leveling. Two levels in a year of constant fighting seems like a slog.

Josh Fulk

I don’t get why so many people are complaining about the length of the Nevermore arc. While yeah it’s been long especially in terms of reading it a chapter at a time. I feel like we have still seen a lot of growth during this period. Think of how many shenanigans have happened since he first came back to earth. If we spent those 50 years outside of time dilation with all the side stories that happen it would have taken Zog Years to get the team to current levels I feel. I think this is a happy medium for rapid growth and engaging content. I’m on this ride Jake stands at the peak. Be it 2 years from now or 20.

Athyrium

Can't wait for this arc to be over. Nevermore is cool and all, but it's taken forever. I can't wait to get back to stuff that actually matters to the story

Michael

*looks at the transformers reference with the eyes of General grievous* "You're references to pop culture will make a fine addition to my collection"

BumAssBumAss

The concept of seasons is a nomological concept that somehow assists his fighting style. Water can be powerful, but so can seasons. Both can reach the peak, but it is up to the sword saint which he wants to focus on more, or perhaps seasons and water are so interlinked it doesn't matter.

NoctisMi

Thank you, I thought I was the only one who sees it like this. I hoped him to get at least double the levels he got in that Floor, especially since that one went for a whole year after 2 Level ups in ilthe beginning

ReadingObsessed

Level up go brr

NoctisMi

True, he probably finishes the experiment and terraforms the whole planet perfectly

Lonnie Sizemore

These chapters are always fun

Blake Noyes

Sounds like it. And they spent a year or maybe 1.5 years on this one

Patrick Ralston

Should be 11.5 they started the challenge dungeons after “just under 30 years”, and Jake at least finished the challenge dungeons after 8.5 ish years.

Inv7ctus

You know, I have a feeling who was in your nevermore parties probably matters alotl, at the very least in C and B grades. 50 years of dungeone diving and facing new and unexpected problems together is going to provide teamwork like nothing else. cant say for sure about the higher ranks, but if 2 or more make it to godhood together. Potential for some scary synergies there, assuming the didnt fall out over the years.

Mason Lindsey

We have got to get out of nevermore and wrap this arc up. Love the series and premise, but this feels like a narrative carousel and you hit diminishing returns after the god meeting.

SpectreHarlequin

I think about 11.5 years because it said they had taken 8.5 years instead of 10 in the Challenge dungeons

Jonathan

he felt confident all of his party members could beat the Guardian on their own if it was as strong as the one Jake had just taken down. Not wrong, but I would write "only as strong". but Jake was having none of that as he destroyed all of them – after getting agreement from his party that this was the right course of action, of course. I have the vision of Jake going ham on them, and suddenly with only one or a few left, thinking to ask, "Hey, should I kill all of them?" Jake kept exploring the planet with intermitting fights intermittent

Mohammed Sheekh

water can be split into gas, solids and liquids, plus with the help of temperature it will take time for each stage to occur. thus it is even better than seasons

Myron Jabido

It’s weird cause Jake gained two levels from the first golem and then beating the first tower. Then he went a full year killing dozens of golems, beat another tower by himself, four space stations, and the mothership, and that’s just one more level? It seems off.

thendavesaid

Like a true Japanese protagonist, the Sword Saint calls out the name of his special move when he attacks with it.

Rui Lourenço

Nah. Seasons are linked with Time, and that's the direction he'll take.

Charles Torry

Numbers go up

jazz

Ohhh I gotchu. I think they finished like 1.5-2 years early. Forgot about that

jazz

What do you mean?

Jack

Same with his profession

Ty Cooper

I think there is more. The SS paintings had a couple of years left I thought.

Ty Cooper

They got a huge boost in records from the challenge dungeons. The dungeons didn't allow leveling in them. This primed them to gain levels fast again like freshly mented c-grades.

Jason Hardman

Missed opportunity to call it the Prime Overseer 😉

Ty Cooper

So at the start of this floor they had about 12 years? Give there was time left over of the SS time paintings and then the decade they left to play on the later floors. Also with Jake not wasting time on the city floor dramas. Are these numbers right-ish?

Gavin

Nice to have the gang back together laying waste.

luke wells

well they've been there for 30 years where they can level and got like 50 levels, but it said levelling gets much slower. Maybe he was just really close to levelling before.

BumAssBumAss

I feel like Arnold's team could get a grand achievement this floor.

bauspar

I think so.

brennon Petersen

Tftc!

Mayson Moffitt

Thxs

Decibel790

Thanks for the chapter!

Mohammed Sheekh

its better for the sword Saint to focus on the concept of water than the concept of seasons

TwistedVanity

Edit. "Not having the block, the old man" should be not having TO block.

Naotsugu97

Cheers for another chapter!

Joshua Tamayo

All hail the pursuit of numbers going up!

Cameron Yourell

Thanks for the chapter.

Alexikon

Isnt the level up a bit slow? 1 Week after the level up from last chapter and about one year for the next?

jazz

🔥that’s what I’m talkin about. Only 9 years left

Michael Fannon

Why do I fell like Jake just jinxed them and the remaining floors dramatically increase in difficulty?

Zogarth

Fix

martin smith

"Not having the block," maybe "to block"

TwistedVanity

Thank you

Rad

New skill selection for the class with one more level up too, right?

Thenais

Thx

BumAssBumAss

Thanks for the chapter!


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