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Chapter 865 - Nevermore: Different Points of View (AKA the Laziest Chapter Title Possible)

🕑 Added 2024-03-06 12:02:46 +0000 UTC

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Only_Sams

Nope, the laziest chapter titles are the ones that aren’t named. Like all of mine lmao good writing Zogarth.

Endless Nature

Thanks for the chapter

Hunter Thornton

Welp I figured the holy church would bitch out, but the risen ought to have a field day on floor 80. Especially Casper who has both curse and death affinity. Not too surprising about valhal. I mean their leader only gets excited about a good brew or a good fight. Still say Vlady and Jake ought to collaborate on makin a brew together

TwistedVanity

I agree with Mownmbasa. Sooo many potential threads too weave. I especially look forwards to Jake and the first sages meeting. And I should point out, everyone hates eversmile and he hates jake, but remember he owes The Viper a favour!

TwistedVanity

It's a good chapter. However I had hoped that jakes party would have been standout enough to complete more floors than anyone else. Showing they are the best of the best. With the time stuff the sword Saint did I was expecting them to go further than everyone else for the wow factor

TSMS

At the start of the Nevermore Arc when they saw the leaderboard already filled with people achieving very low scores, it's explained that the Holy Church sends out people in very early and as soon they reach the first city floor, they enter time chambers that speed up their relative time to get out of nevermore very quickly. What the team experienced was the opposite, so their stay should be extended (relative to the other teams entering around the same time).

Josh Hietpas

You forgot about jake bangin a goddess, or at least the image of one, who is currently watching him with stars in her eyes, especially after he protected her from the presence of valdemar in the dick… i mean aura, measuring contest

Olof Karlsson

Thanks for the chapter!

Josh Hietpas

Nah, it goes based off your relative time as its linked to your soul. So even though they cheesed the level by speeding it up, they will all spend 50 years total from their point of view in nevermore. All that would/could happen is jakes team got farther than cheetos team as they cheesed the floor, that being said, they cheeto cheesed minagas city floor so it may be about the same floor wise

Sam Rosenberg

This was a great chapter. Getting the other perspectives on how the dungeon is done makes what our team is doing that much cooler

Omar Jimenez

With regards to Jake, I doubt he’d bring a woman to his house in the first place? So far, he’s only been intimate with Carmen and Irin; and he’s made it clear it’s a casual, friends with benefits situation. Hell, he doesn’t even chase after them; they seduce him each time. Plus, currently he can’t even bring Carmen to the Order, much less his house. As for Irin, they’ve only had one tryst so far, at that hotel. While Irin is totally DTF anytime, anywhere, that doesn’t mean Jake’s going to have her be a regular in his bed. Furthermore, I don’t think Jake feels guilty about Meira’s feelings for him. He’s just been uncomfortable with the power imbalance between the two of them, while also not thinking of Meira in a romantic or sexual way. As far as we’ve seen, anyway. I do expect the girls’ bitch sessions to stop, or at least move out of Jake’s house once he’s back, though. And yeah, he and Meira need to talk about Meira becoming Duskleaf’s Chosen and what that means for their living and work arrangement.

Micah Molina

Yup. People need to remember the 50 year time limit is only truly important for those competing on the Leaderboards. People like Miranda, they are aware its less important. Meaning, factions most likely can hire people with less potential to level high to be runners. Essentially paying them to be runners.

Micah Molina

That's a good point. Politics are yucky lol. Even still, regardless that EH is kind of a jerk, he's going to place high, meaning his party members will gain points and prestige, even if it's an unpleasant look.

TSMS

A few floors back, the Sword Sage put up a bubble where time moved slower for the team and they saved 8 or so months. Most contenders for the top spot on the ladder went in around the same time as Jake and team. Does that mean that most other teams will emerge earlier than them by a few months in Evermore-time and at least a few days in normal time? That would mean, while Ell'Hakan entered after Jake, he'll emerge sooner and probably take top spot on the ladder temporarily. I hope YoY and EH make a move right before Jake leaves Nevermore and immediately rewrites their story.

Vega

Nah Meira annoys me. Jake’s never going to be able to bring any girls over to his own damn house without feeling guilty or having to justify himself to her

austin kutz

He probably talks them through their issues then kills them. Still can't match Jake since his multipliers aren't as high

TimeDrawsNigh

Surprised there was no pov of Ell’Hakan

SqrlyGrly

I wonder if Jake's actions in nevermore would make it harder for EH to get a replacement teammate since they were all negotiated for him by Yip of Yap. The various fractions might not be as open to helping his opponent if it means it is harder to get on Jake's good side.

Peter Smith

I think each party member is scored based on how they did in their subsequent parties for their individual set of points, and then the splits are added together for their final party. So for the church and the risen only the final party will be considered on the board with their points gathered from the individual scores of their party members, while jakes is counted wholesale because they didnt need to split up.

Peter Smith

Ooh we need a dragon to join the harem as well. Obviously she would need to be special in some way but it would awesome. Speaking of which i forgot the current count for his harem i remember hes got his elf and his succubus i just cant remember who else we (the fans) have determined will join his bed.

Peter Smith

Nah its the two sides of stability... Which i just realized is just the mana version of his "jake juice" that allowed him to manipulate the universe by making a stable instability in the form of a void point... Jake is just an oversized Zipper...

Allan

Also I do agree on the fact that Eversmile may not be as malicious as he seems. From where I’m sitting, he seems like an extremely dedicated researcher willing to do extremely inhumane stuff which also mostly make no sense to progress his knowledge. Which kind of makes sense as he is a doppelgänger which is a monster, and from his point of view, he is simply doing experiments to learn more ablout karma, nothing more, nothing less. Also, according to the endless empire, the primordials do seem like they aren’t really on hostile terms, with them avoiding conflicts of interest, and the fact that Eversmile stated he wasn’t doing anything he considered against his patron. Shit, with his talk with yore, he seems to view the entire situation as a game and is looking to see how the Viper will react as opposed to actually going against, moreover from how Villy talked about him, it might even just be the two primordials making a large scheme for some weird goal.

Allan

Back during the early posts of Zogarth, there were side stories he wrote, and there is a poem of sorts among them written by a fanatic of the primordial church which contains information about the primordials, this is during the early 100 chapters though and I don’t think the plot was fully ironed out, so there may be some details amiss here and there such as the star seizing titan not being a unique lifeform, but other wise some very accurate information, there is also descriptions of two bloodline holders, one being natures attendant and the other being an unfortunate soul who couldn’t harness the true power of her bloodline.

Ty Cooper

I want eternal hunger to suck up all the curse energy to mess up the twin's plan causing them to have to merge and fight the team.

Anthony Smith

Allan

With nothing else to do, I would like to point out the forgotten dungeon granted to Jake by Minaga. And by my magnanimous, you may thank me for reminding you all of something you would’ve no doubt forgotten with a like.

Bobby B

TFTC

Bobby B

Ty Cooper. Slow lane? I feel like I’m in LA gridlock. I should go back to my old version of reading these chapters. Wait to read all the week’s chapters on Friday. It takes a huge amount of willpower but I only get ONE cliffhanger a week😂

Anthony Smith

I smell a cliff in my future, maybe 2 days or so.

Mownmbasa

Rereading the story again i came across Jake's evolution in C grade and specifically his race evolution. This time around i read it more carefully and it makes me extremely ecstatic at the prospect of seeing what type of evolved form of human he evolves into and how does his bloodline changes. It's coming at a point when things get real with a lot of threads coming to fruition and the more i revisit the story the more snipets i see. I just hope that Zogarth has a table to keep track of all these superb nuggets he planted and plans on following up on them. If anything by me commenting i will be like a reminder haha! Also we still have a few Primordials that haven't met Jake like Rigoria and the Starseizing titan, Yggdrasil or other prominent gods like Umbra and Autarch (side note i think they are interesting gods to know) and maybe even some groveling from the Dragon Accords now that they realised who Jake is and try to fanboy over him by apologizing profusely. So many interesting characters developed in this story, i swear is richer than cheese cake in flavor. I can actually lose count of characters i can identify clearly with specific characteristics. I know everyone hates Eversmile but i got a feeling he has more depth to him and its by design from Zogarth. Wouldn't surprise me if he isn't in on the scheme on Viper's side against Yip. So many threads... Delicios...

Erik Leiden

210, but with points for level gain in the dungeon. Though I'm not sure if that snippet from 200+ levels ago will stick around in the final cut.

Acaeluse

They can communicate, all the city floors have reps from the big powers and people can leave and enter Nevermore during their journey. Their time counter keeps ticking tho.

Ral

Jake's finds plans for the boss to evolve into a B Grade. Jake and party - "Na we want a B Grade with two heads!"

Ral

Dungeon difficulty scales with the amount of people in your party and only the full 5 man party qualify/have a chance for the leaderboards.

Ral

I don't know about a point gain benefit VS an experience gain benefits. However you had to be under level 210 or 220 to be aloud to compete in the leaderboards.

Micah Molina

SS actually coming in clutch. They gained about 6 months iirc. That's pretty huge if accurate, they might not have had enough time for floor 80.

Numbzy

Any decision that members of the Holy Church either is, or would be supported by the Holy Mother since its definitely not a democracy. So the Holy Priestess grouping with EH should be taken as the Holy Mother "supporting" YoY. Plausible deniability doesn't really exist in many of these pantheons. But conversely, who is going to raise it as an issue to the Holy Mother personally? With her position, she's obviously frighteningly powerful. Presumably this is Vilas making it seem like he's up against more than just Vladamar.

Micah Molina

The city floors, you can access all prior city floors thru them iirc. Every floor has like embassies, which probably have runners to communicate. It's like how Jake always stays at an Order establishment. The Order is just undermanned due to the Villy's past absence. Edit: also I'm sure all the factions have protocols in place if a party loses a member or they project a member need ls to be replaced before hand.

Erik Leiden

Curious to see how much level gain during Nevermore matters. It was stated that entering closer to lvl 200 has a point gain benefit, but Jake is also explicitly disadvantaged in leveling compared to others.

joel southard

Nice thank you for the chapter

Ty Cooper

Which yip will try to use in some way as cheeto stays the underdog till the final battle. Jake just keeps messing their story up by just being himself.

Trevor Mergen

Thanks

Ty Cooper

I think they all have that score individually until they separate for challenging dungeons. Each for give the individual the same amount at the end of each floor.

Captain the Red Beard

Eww, no. That would leave it too close and the Cheeto could use that somehow. This has to be a blowout.

Killinger Ryan

Time dilation for the win!

Ryan Ulrich

Also, how do team points work in Nevermore when you drop some people for other teammates later on?

Ryan Ulrich

Everybody now, chant it until the Leaderboard Chapter is published: Single Point Victory, Single Point Victory, SINGLE POINT VICTORY!!!

ItWasIDIO!!

Jacob please develop better why are you even here & "care" ha

Joe Black

They can leave on system floors it just keeps the clock running at the increased speed outside so its not something the elites do.

Micah Molina

Not losing a teammate throughout Nevermore seems to be a challenge in itself but when you also add teams replacing members based on performance, like in this chapter, it seems rare for teams to start and end Nevermore without replacement.

Tyler S.

Others can enter/exit on the city floors and gain faction information before then reporting to those inside

TwoMoreYears

It would be nice. I’m just interested in seeing what names are on the all time leaderboard.

TwoMoreYears

That would be hilarious

JohnSnowden

I'm guessing they have people who leave and return regularly so that they can communicate with the higher ups and pass the information back to the people in the dungeon

JohnSnowden

I'm guessing he wins by the single point that minaga awarded them

jazz

Shit they probably just sent someone in with a message. Unlimited supply of c grade fodder

Bent Sommer

But it would be fun when jake comes back home and meira is still in nevermore or wherever so jake must handle meiras siblings

Ty Cooper

I really want Jake to beat yip's score on the all time leaderboard

TwoMoreYears

You may consider it lazy but I enjoy getting updates on some of the side characters. I wasn’t expecting it until time ran out in nevermore but it’s still fun. We’ve reached a very odd point in the story where it’s hard not look ahead. I’m definitely looking forward to the results on the leaderboard, seeing peoples reactions, and finding out about this all time leaderboard.

Mat

As for Meira family I hope she took them to her own assigned residence cause Villy and Duskleaf random visits will be to much

Mat

I guess everything is possible when the price is right. System rules can always be bent

Jason Hardman

I'm guessing at this point, with the elite contenders tapping out on floor 80, that when the points reveal comes Ell'hakan will edge out Jake for the top spot, perhaps even having gotten to floor 81, but when the multipliers are revealed Jake will swing up to the top spot. Nevermore will probably split the reveal of points and final adjusted points just to build tension like that.

Ty Cooper

How do the teams communicate with the higher ups for all these team shake-ups? I thought they couldn't communicate with the outside.

Ty Cooper

That sounds very possible. The extra bonuses that is. Not loosing a teammate could be one also, but I could see that going to Dina as the healer. Lots of possibilities there

Omar Jimenez

On the one hand, I just want to keep the story moving so the Nevermore arc can finally end. On the other hand, how’s Meira settling in as Duskleaf’s Chosen? Did her family move into her house in Jake’s compound? How is Izil being pressured by her empire now that she’s a close relation to TWO Chosen? Small questions that don’t affect the story, like at all, but that I really need answered.

Ty Cooper

Welcome to the slow lane. I kinda did the same thing but with audible so I at least was limited to a comfortable listen pace. But soon as I was out of audible books I smashed through them online and have been at the crawl ever since.

Micah Molina

I wonder if Ell'Hakan dropped any of his teammates? He hinted early on while he was happy with them, he was only impressed by the one from the Holy Church. Makes me wonder if he kicked a couple to get those two 90% earners, the female dragonkin and the demon? I'm pretty sure there might be final overall achievements. Maybe even leading to extra bonus Nevermore percentage point boosts? It would be super awesome if there was an achievement for doing well, while not having to replace a team member. That way SS and Dina still have a shot at the Leaderboards even if its bottom 5.

David Ballantyne

I picked up the first book on Kindle on February 8th, and now after almost a month of reading I am out of backlogged story. Feels both good and bad to not have more to read in one go!

Micah Molina

Just because Yip made a deal with the Holy Church, does not automatically mean it was with the Holy Mother. It's the largest faction, the deal could have been done with any number of high-ranking gods from the Church. I imagine its actually possible that the Holy Mother might have actual plausible deniability, since its possible she didn't know about it until after the deal was made.

Decibel790

Tftc!

Numbzy

I mean, it's heavily implied that Vilas was partially responsible for YoY being able to secure the party members for EH. The Holy Mother clearly has a lot of personal history with Vilas, and the United Beast Trible also sent a member, but we know they want to get on Jake's good side. Whether that's to back stab EH or not, we have no idea. I personally have the idea that his team will "fail" at the end forcing him to have a worse score and title.

Ty Cooper

Looking forward to the final % bonus. I really hope Jake just destroys EH's score. I don't want it to be close. I would love it if Jake smashes yip's score for the all time best scores.

Ty Cooper

I am looking forward to them getting another % boost for the final battle. I really hope he is not close to EH. I want Jake to smash EH's score and even leaving yip's score in the dust for the all time best scores.

Ty Cooper

I think it is just for the event. Would be totally suspicious if they didn't mention how no embassy or anything would be on earth.

Jason Bradford

Finally!!!

Vega

Great to see Carmen again

Athena

tftc :) "so probably someone that’s being done" -> "so probably something that’s being done" "Two warriors attack from behind as their blades hit her back." -> "Two warriors attacked from behind, their blades hitting her back."

JJB4345_80_815

Friendly possible edits: "On floor sixty-eight, he had trigged his One More Light skill," I believe that "trigged" is supposed to be "triggered" "Two warriors attack from behind as their blades hit her back." I believe "attack" should be "attacked"

Jana

OP - would work as well and even describe some chapters quite well :-P

Frederik

Nm:Eh

JJB4345_80_815

Laziest chapter title: "Nevermore: Eh"

JJB4345_80_815

Yes, thank you for the chappy, Zogarth!

Namorat

I always enjoy reading about the other groups and POVs :)

SchwarzWeiß

Curious how welcom Jacob will be on earth ... Also what's the churchs goal doing it, with the holy Church suporting ElHakan at least a little with his Party member in nevermore im suspicious ...

Allan

Alright we’re going to have 1 last final fight chapter then it’s done with a big cliffhanger on Friday.

Ryan Ulrich

Only make sense Jake’s party is ahead time wise since SS can make a hyperbolic time Chamber

brennon Petersen

Tftc!

BerciTheBeast

TFTC!

John Balman

Yep, always a fun way to start the morning

Themo Grulld

What a title , looked like good pov's.

Zizawah

Looks like Jake and co are doing better than Azal/Casper and Carmen’s groups. Poor Jacob and Bertram! A long time before they get to come back to Earth.

Zogarth

Fix

DBOMB YO

It was nice to see a little of how the others are doing, although I really can't wait to see how high Jakes points are! Although I also know you're going to make it after the weekend -_-

Joshua Morris

I don't know why but I need that aka part of the title keep in when this part becomes a audio book.

Josh Meneely

"...why suddenly get all up in hands over this one?". I think you mean up in arms.

Jana

The chapter Titel is a lie. Name it Different PoVs if you want it lazy and I m in :-P

C0bra$

Thank u

BlackRazaras

Thanks for the chapter

BumAssBumAss

Thanks for the chapter!


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