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Chapter 841 - Nevermore: On the Grindset

🕑 Added 2024-02-01 11:40:06 +0000 UTC

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Hunter Thornton

Finally Jake bout to do some serious bitch and hittin em with the reality checks

Psyren1596

Sigh…. I love the story, but I’ve basically just skimmed through the last few courier chapters.

Austin G

I gotta admit i skipped this entire courier sub plot and feel i havent missed a thing

Rezkin

That and the shroud are both cheats the mc is using, along with his bloodline to exploit flaws

Thomas Laptain

Firstly, that's simply not true. There are various other verbs not in past tense in that paragraph. Secondly, it's not happening on the same timescale as other verbs in the paragraph either, so doesn't need to match them. It's internal monologue referring to a statement that is being made presently, so is fine to be in present tense.

DBOMB YO

I imagine one of the things they didn't account for is that since it's a newly integrated universe, a world like Jake's has lots of jobs like what he's doing now. When you compare it to the current world where something like this just wouldn't happen so they've designed it based on that naivety.

Daniel Hamilton

Maybe he will end up becoming head of the guild

Olof Karlsson

Thanks for the chapter!

ABTelford

Every other verb in the paragraph is past tense so this one needs to be too. Alternately, If it was all present tense inner monologue that would be fine.

ABTelford

Every other verb in the paragraph is past tense so this one needs to be too.

Thomas Laptain

Same to the other comment I replied to, the 'who even knows' part of this statement is occurring as part of the present tense inner monologue, and not something that has already happened, so it being present tense can make sense.

Thomas Laptain

I don't think that's necessary here, as the first part of that statement is a separate occurrence to the second, so their tenses don't need to be the same. The presently occuring inner monologue of Villy is the part saying 'as sad as it sounds', so it being present tense makes sense.

Daniel Hamilton

This getting him his 100

Sean Dawson

I can feel it. This was a lot of progress in 1 chapter and it’s almost endgame time and tomorrow is Friday. The cliffhanger is coming.

Daniel Hamilton

It would be nice if he got his medallion to divine. He’s been in there for about nine months has a whole year plus a few months left.

Daniel Hamilton

It’s like a fallout four glitch

Chaotic Chaos

I love how Jake is just there as a iron tangle of political intrigue unwinds around him. The fact that he’s unfazed by it all is even funnier.

Derze

He is also completing the same quest multiple times because all factions recognize it as completed

JJB4345_80_815

@ Frederick - Yes, Jake hates all of the factions involved but he also showed some sympathy for the Duke's daughter so I figured that he'd separated his feelings for the third faction from his feelings for her. Partly due to her still being in early C-grade because she doesn't want to use her family's method of consuming elementals. I could be wrong. 🤷 Edit: Turns out I was wrong about the daughter.

JJB4345_80_815

@ Johannes H - Are you complaining about BOTH it taking too long (terrible drag) AND that the Courier story is turning into a recap!? What, pray tell, would make you happy?

DasGoat622

Yeah but at least for the two major factions they wanted him involved with other. It’s not like he independently went to PETE he was sent by the DoF and then sent back by PETE

Glen Johnson

Jake totally didn't read the comments from a chapter or two ago to come up with PETE.

JJB4345_80_815

The third faction is from a different empire (edit : different Dukedom, still the same empire) and is probably using the girl for their own goals: sowing chaos in the rival empire (edit : Dukedom) (instead of trying to fix the problems plaguing the common people). Jake doesn't like those who abuse their power. He doesn't like PETE for killing simple farmers that support/supply the infernal Baron's family and doesn't like the family for not caring about the death toll of their subjects. The third faction doesn't (probably) care about that either so therefore Jake doesn't care for them either as well.

Ramble

This is definitely my favourite theory so far

ABTelford

That’s my guess too but I’m hoping for a little extra twist I haven’t predicted. If it’s there, yay! If not, stiff fun.

ABTelford

Friendly edit: 4th the last paragraph: “ with eleven total Special Courier Jobs, and who even KNEW how many Side Jobs and Special Side Jobs.” Keeping it all past tense.

ABTelford

friendly edit: “As sad as it sounds, it was rare to find people even willing to argue back” - change ‘sounds’ to ‘sounded’ - keeping it all past tense.

ABTelford

Friendly Edit: paragraph 4; “many gods who were capable of listening in WERE very interested…”

C. Adkins

Well, maybe it’s more of how forgetful Jake is, where anyone else at his level of power and rank would obviously demand or even just question payment, while Jake just never brought it up because he just believes it’s system fuckery?

kingofshibainu

I hope this is the case because Jake breaking things accidentally is half the fun of this series.

JonO

It'll be hilarious if the lockout was true and since he completed all that racing the endgame to all has a25%reward earning him 75 to maybe even 100 for doing all the side quests as well. This breaking the system and having to deal with wyrmgod and minaga directly for his rewards.

hachetnif

I agree with this comment and that the people are NPCs can tell if you're lying but since he's not lied they can't do anything to accuse him of treachery as long as he's truthful and does his job he can get as many quest lines as possible even if they are against each other making it so that he's literally getting x times rewards for each quest line

JonO

Nice!

hachetnif

There's a lot of reasons that Jake wouldn't like her but the main one I believe is she's betraying her family

Isley

good chappie

BlackRazaras

Thanks for the chapter

joel southard

Nice thank you for the chapter

kingofshibainu

My guess is the exploit is the these faction quest chains aren't mutually exclusive. The designers forgot to "lock out" the choices you could take once you went down one path, do Jake can essentially do all of them... Likely leading to a big reward and possibly a big 25% modifier.

Kenneth Welever

Add in Jake doing absurdly well because of the other loopholes and his prize ends up being greater still than predicted.

Kenneth Welever

That's one loophole. Doesn't mean that's the only loophole.

Hodge Wasson

Best chapter in this challenge dungeon so far, IMO. Lots of progress, further intrigue set up, and god banter to further frame this challenge dungeon. Good stuff all around.

Archmage37

This gives me the same vibes that I get from watching the end of the clue movie with Tim Curry as he sums up who the killer is lol 😂😂😂

Michael

It feels like Fallout 4, where a lot of the quests tend to overlap and work with opponents. You can do multiple faction quests all at the same time and not get in trouble, getting way more rewards then actually picking a faction. Top tier 10/10

padanu

I like the thought, but that would affect everyone, not just Jake. Villy is clear that it’s something Jake in particular is already taking advantage of, no?

Ryan Brudnicki

My exploit guess is that the storyline is being run by the dungeon, and since jake doesnt like any of the factions the dungeon keeps trying to introduce new ones to align with jake, so he will have an ever expanding amount of factions getting involved, and they will all have high level jobs

Kenneth Welever

Counter prediction: they forgot to add in ongoing loot drops so the system calculated everything in at the end and Jake gets something he really really shouldn't.

Frederik

ff

Frederik

I thought he hated all factions involved or did I miss read something?

Michelle Maurice

Agree. I feel like nevermore has dragged on quite a bit. I love the concept but I’m ready for Jake and company to get back to shenanigans.

SD

Prediction, the exploit is that Jake is actually just getting paid, he just is moving too fast or something for his payments to arrive. As a result, he's getting compounding bonuses for continuing to progress further without ever accepting a single payment.

ABTelford

Ha! I had a lot of fun reading this chapter. It had fun info AND it progressed through this Nevermore dungeon faster so that made me happy. Yea, I’m very ready for Nevermore to be done so we can get back to the real plot with real life consequences for Jake (aside from level ups). I understand that weaving together a complex plot takes time and is difficult so the author may have needed the time he’s been writing Nevermore chapters to better compose his main plot line…at least I hope that’s what he’s been doing. Zogarth, if you need to take a couple weeks off writing to wrestle the main plot line into shape, I think that’s entirely reasonable. I prefer quality over quantity. 🙂.

Iron

Really can't wait for the exploits! Ideas: Multiple faction jobs (detailed in other people comments) Forcing payment from previous jobs before critical job (when no payment at all is planned) S rank detection and interaction? (Not sure but maybe, maybe rank influence the amount of points) Courier's impact on the world? (Not sure but maybe the reward for the dungeon is proportional to the amount of changed you brought to this fictional world through existing? Would advantage bloodlines holders(new concept= more change))

Arrogant Savant

Zog apparently writes the chapters days ahead, it feels sus cause in discord someone thought the npcs were intelligent.

Jonathan Haverlid

Feels like Jake and the daughter mostly agree on things tho, why would he hate this third faction?

Iron

I don't think yip of yor's chosen will be busted here because you need a real bit of skill for the size and speed needed for some of those jobs. Like even if he could influence strong upper grade people to do his jobs he might not be able to complete them in time if he isn't fast enough.

Iron

Well Jake was never really depicted as someone preferring brain plots over good fight. Not to say he's stupid but he's very much more of a Valdemar and front facing confrontation than a Vilastromoz and his schemes.

Namorat

She is horrible too

Namorat

Because she is, as her father, willing to have innocent people suffer for her revenge on her father. She is supporting the people actively hunting the farmers and such.

Namorat

I really enjoy this chapter, but I can't help to feel as if it was done this way due to crybabies in the comment section...

Specter

Thank you Potential edit: many gods who were capable of listening in very interested in getting some insights into the World Wonder. -> many gods who were capable of listening in [were] very interested in getting some insights into the World Wonder.

MrCynical

It's a skill from going through the tutorial when being inducted into the multiverse.

Yaldabaoth

I couldn't stop chuckling this whole chapter! Absolutely loving it! WooooHooooo!?!? LeeeeeetsssssssGOOOOOOOOO!?!?

Yaldabaoth

Boooo (I mean can see you point, but still...) Boooo

john henderson

Trying to remember if being able to speak all languages is just a new universe thing or a multiverse thing. That may be an exploit.

Cryfdwr

I was wondering if the exploit is working for all sides/factions. A lot of people would pick one side and only get those quests. So far, Jake is completing quests from three sides as well as the regular courier quests

Sam Rosenberg

Nice chapter.

Michael

"Jake Thayne here with another Infinite Agent loop scheme, now for sale for only 900 courier jobs, but wait there's more. Order now and you'll receive 3 more entire factions to work for, thus increasing the value of you infinite loop agent tenfold"

Ty Cooper

Lol PETE. That one touched my soul. I couldn't stop chuckling every time i read PETE thinking of elementals making horribly suggestive superbowl commercials.

Aerlevsedi

Holy fence-sitting, batman! Truly the most broken strat, let them trick themselves into mutual destruction. You know, a couple more factions and he could set off a massive war. For someone so bad at politics usually, he has discovered the true secret to political success. Just don't commit to anything, just smile and nod.

Jonathan

I think so, that the double negative was intentional this time. I had to read it twice, too.

Very ready to be done with this. All of Nevermore after the Colosseum (aside from the god chapters) was such a terrible drag and now that the Courier story is just turning into a recap, I can't wait for it to be over. Tftc tho!

Grond (James)

Following the instructions to the letter is the best guess I have. People are getting a little mad but it seems to be serving him well. I don't know if that qualifies as an exploit though

Grond (James)

He hates the daughters faction? That's weird. I don't see why

BumAssBumAss

"Also, you cannot argue that some individuals aren’t simply this trusting" Do you mean that some people 'are' this trusting?

SkippyARC

There's too much foreshadowing. There's no way the "exploit" doesn't have something to do with Jake not getting paid yet

Julian

Congrats Govir Drauka, you were 100% correct about it being PETE!

Adam

I think the cheat is that none of the side quests were mutually exclusive, so he can do them all. It seems if you can discover them, then you can do them. The high performers are supposed to take an average of 2 years and Jake is going to the main event at 9 months. That is quite the outlier. This is not taking into account yip's champion with his bloodline. He may be able to do it even faster depending on how he uses his bloodline. I doubt he would get as good of a score as Jake, but he could get to the end faster. It would be interesting to see how people from earth do against everyone else. It would be funny if they caused this challenge dungeon to be closed for a couple more eras because of how bad they exploited it.

Scott

Bloody good chapter mate! I’m loving the Nevermore arch!

mhmmax

i really hope it turns hout he would just need to ask for his payment, but because he doesn't he will get a ridiculous amount of interest on his payment, which turns into lots of nevermore pointies

Decibel790

Tftc

JJB4345_80_815

Thank you for the God TV and the quick pace, Zogarth! So, how is Jake gonna manipulate everything so that the one person he thinks is okay (Duke's daughter) somehow ends up benefitting from all this? Is he going to meet up with one of the Courier higher ups?

Stevean Bozek

Hopefully he can pick up 5 or 6 more factions to fuck with on his way back. He really needs this storyline to get as convoluted as possible to break the dungeon

JJB4345_80_815

I'm thankful for the chappy, Zogarth! Muchas gracias!

Austin Barton

I think the exploit is him being the infinite agent

Athyrium

Oh no, his fatal flaw! Politics! I'm surprised he hasn't used his over powered skill called delegation...

Detrox

My guess is, as long as you stick to the mission requirements, the others can never realize that you might actually be a traitor.

Yeah but grindset referring to doing a lot of work and jobs is a new term. I'm aware that grinding itself isn't new

Detrox

You mean the Grind finale?

Nate Oppy

69th

martin smith

I was using "grind" over 20 years ago while playing mmorpgs like lineage

Strato Junon

This is going to be a grand finale. Tyfc!

As funny as it is, the grind set terminology kind of doesn't work in my eyes, since those terms became popular way after the world ended in this universe

Karim Saadi

Go with the daughter and screw with them all! Also WHAT IS THE EXPLOIT HE IS ALREADY DOING

Zogarth

Fix

Detrox

Nice! Btw, Also, you cannot also... I think there is too much 'also' in that sentence 😃

Naotsugu97

64th!


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