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Chapter 852 - Nevermore: Mysterious Better Boots

🕑 Added 2024-02-16 11:00:53 +0000 UTC

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kapat

First Sage content (booots!!!) my favorite 🥾

Kconraw

Thx for the chapter

Lizy Flore

Okay : here’s my theory. The 1st Sage and Jake belong to the same race, but the Sage never wanted to reach his « true » level, hence why he stayed at C-Rank. Makes me believe Jake will become « it » (whatever « it » will end up to be) at B-Rank, at least. Could explain why the Sage wants to meet Jake, too. And even if they don’t belong to the same race, then the 1st Sage might have some insights on the same matter. As for why I think they are of the same specie ? Well, they are both peak-geniuses multiversal monsters. The 1st Sage possessed several Transcendent Skills and Jake has his broken Bloodline. Maybe it’s a weak argument, but I struggle to see it as a mere coincidence. Thoughts ?

daniel gager

Finally confirmed who's boots they were!

Olof Karlsson

Thanks for the chapter!

JJB4345_80_815

@ Numbzy - Being bullied via Social Media is a thing. Taunting doesn't have to be face-to-face. Edit: Think on it this way - They all have a limited time (50 years) to earn points. It was stated in this chapter that Ell'hakan's multiplier reveal was DELAYED to maximize interest. It takes 7-12 years to finish all of the Challenge Dungeons for Leaderboard contenders and 8.5 years before Jake's group even started the Challenge Dungeons they had solid intel that Ell'hakan had reached the floor before them. Do you really think that Ell'hakan would be sitting around on that city floor twiddling his thumbs wasting his time not advancing further into Nevermore on the off chance that he could get into a shouting match with Jake? That would be a horrible waste of the most precious resource of time.

Numbzy

Sorry, I didn't see this until today. It's somewhat implied that EH is still on this floor. In this very chapter it's stated, "If Ell’Hakan or some other asshat tried to taunt Jake with their super cool score, Jake would gladly smack down their ego. Going out to brag on his own just seemed a bit too tacky, in Jake’s opinion." Implying that EH could taunt him so he has to be there.

Hunter Thornton

I got a feelin the first sage knows what is really up wit Jake’s op as fuk bloodline.

Vega

Nah Temlat’s story was cool

Michael Fannon

Yes. Because Jake probably has a 15 to 20% lead on Ellhakan over all. 10 from the challenge dungeons, 5 from the witch, and 5 from some other thing never fully explained. There is no way anyone else got the boost from the witch, so even if Ell got the other boost, that would still mean Jake has a 15% boost over Ell. Plus, there are the final floors. If they follow the pattern as before, then each will give out insane amounts of points.

Michael Fannon

My thought exactly.

Michael Fannon

Villy says he hasn't. Yet. I kinda expect it to happen in the future as his bloodline keeps getting stronger with each grade.

K. Johnson

I wonder if Jake gets records when he perceives people watching him making Perception the ultimate build

JJB4345_80_815

@ Numbzy - I think we have interpreted the written words completely opposite of one another. I see what was written and go "Oh, Ell'hakan was already on the next floor and ordered someone(s) via his bloodline to disseminate the info for him in a manner and time chosen ahead of time." Since a follower of Aeon Clock had given the Sword Saint an info dump in chapter 737 AND the order of the Malefic Viper has outposts set up on all of the city floors that makes the most sense to me. From what I can tell, I think that you believe that since Ell'hakan's info is being distributed then that must indicate that Ell'hakan must still be on the same city floor? Is that correct? I could be wrong and Ell'hakan is only 3-4 years ahead, but with the prior floors taking multiple years to complete for Jake's group, just imagine how fast Ell'hakan's group can complete floors with the assistance of B-grades as stated in chapter 737! Also, on Minaga's City Floor Ell'hakan's group shaved (If I recall correctly) over a year just on that single floor! Maybe I'm pessimistic, but until we get a more concrete understanding of exactly which floor Ell'hakan is on I'm gonna think what I think.

JJB4345_80_815

For those who believe that Ell'hakan isn't further along in the Nevermore floors I decided to copy/paste the vital excerpt from Chapter 737: Nevermore - Time Skip Status: "Another one of those ahead he, unfortunately, did know quite well was Ell’Hakan, who had managed to cheese far more of these floors than they had been able to. The fundamental problem was that most floors had people on them, and Ell’Hakan’s Bloodline was simply too well-suited for those kinds of situations. In places where Jake and company had to act solo or purposefully avoid the attention of B-grades or others too powerful to handle, Ell’Hakan had been able to actively enlist them. As for how they knew this, for sure? Well, through the guy bragging openly and spreading the news. He simply beat floors faster than them and was thus ahead." Remember, Chapter 737 was roughly 9 years ago in Nevermore time from now, chapter 852. EDIT: It is interesting that when they arrived on the City Floor that they had gained the most points at that city floor marker: "Current Nevermore Points Record (Floor 1-70): 744,673 Jake and company had kept the top spot. After floor sixty-five, they also had it, and not losing it was great. Of course, not everything was great. The Sword Saint had gotten an annoying update on other people also doing Nevermore. As far as they were aware, a bit over a dozen groups they knew of were ahead of them" So, not only does Jake have a 10% Challenge Dungeons multiplier advantage, but also an advantage in the amount of un-multiplied points earned by basically breaking 3 of the Challenge Dungeons, and a lead in points from earlier floors. Still, how many levels ahead is Ell'hakan's group AND have they earned any grand achievement multipliers on other floors???

JJB4345_80_815

Since others mentioned chapter 631 I just decided to copy/paste the relevant section: "The cloak itself was black as night and was incredibly light yet durable. The properties were, as always, where the real greatness was at. [Midnight Shadow Cloak (Ancient)] – A cloak created from the essence of an unknown creature dwelling in the realm of shadows. Incredibly durable to all kinds of attacks. Allows the wearer to meld into the shadows when they stand still or move slowly, masking their presence and all of their actions, including energies. Improved further if already dwelling in the shadows. When worn within the realm of shadows, the cloak will passively absorb energy to repair itself or assist the user during their travel through the darkness. Requirements: level 200+ in any humanoid race. Must have touched upon the realm of shadows. The most interesting thing about this cloak was definitely the requirement to even use it. The requirement to have touched upon the realm of shadows was something Jake had never seen before and made him wonder even more about that weird place. Jake could only use this item due to his Eternal Shadow skill, and he knew that actually connecting with this realm of shadow wasn’t easy and was most often only done by people following Umbra. Why it was even on sale at the Order was a mystery."

JJB4345_80_815

@ Numbzy - I copied/pasted this from the previous chapter: "but none of them had expected it to have already happened a while ago, as the announcement had merely been delayed. Definitely intentionally so to make it at a good time to generate the most attention. It was naturally made by someone who cared a lot about his reputation and one of the people most had their eyes on… the Chosen of Yip of Yore: Ell’Hakan." I stand by my belief that he's 10 years ahead of Jake. He could even be farther ahead...

Numbzy

Does anyone suspect that the first two paragraph about tyrants and rebellions is directly targeted at EH? How EH temporarily abandoned his planet and now there are problems going there... We know that William is on EH's planet. Maybe he's starting problems, or exacerbating the existing ones about tyranny and EH's illegitimate claim to the throne.

Numbzy

So EH is not a full 10 years ahead of him. Chapter 737 is where Jake says that EH is ahead of him, but only a chapter or two ago is EH running around telling people his score. Jake also did not mention how far ahead EH was, so its safe to assume that they are basically "tied" again in terms of progression.

Adam

Chapter 631- Getting that Booty

KenTX325

Meaningless in regards to the overall story. It is predictable that Jake gets a decent score, so this arc does little to impact the plot of the main story. That is why the best sections are when we get to see other characters outside of Nevermore. I care more about Mira freeing her village or Miranda managing the new Earth government than Jake’s student who doesn’t really exist.

Chaotic Chaos

‘But maybe his creepy cloak could be good to upgrade? At least that would help him find out why that damn merchant had been so happy to get rid of it when Jake bought it.’ What is Jake referring to? I completely forgot what this is.

JJB4345_80_815

So it's roughly 13 hours away from the next chapter drop but I'm bored so I'm gonna ask: "Is Jake's 105% multiplier enough to overtake Ell'hakan (at 95%) since Ell'hakan's group has roughly a ten year head start from this point? Remember, Ell'hakan's group had already moved on from this city floor by the time Jake's group had arrived. And I have to wonder if the further one's group progresses if it's not more commonplace to earn a Grand Achievement, Like how both groups killed their Minaga clone without losing anybody roughly 35 floors ago or how Jake's group earned a 5% modifier on the Karmic Plague floor as well as another floor. Did Ell'hakan's group already earn some extra modifiers on past floors, like for exemplary finishing times? Jake currently has 1,242,425 Nevermore points, right? I am probably WAY oversimplifying this but the known 10% edge that Jake has for being better in the Challenge Dungeons would end up being 124,242.5 extra points. Is that enough Nevermore points to combat Ell'hakan's current floor lead?

Michael Fannon

Am I the only one hoping the gods ask Jake to go flex?

Michael Fannon

Books. Nevermore will likely be spread between 2 or 3 books with the amount of chapters it has.

JJB4345_80_815

Thank you Skyler!

Michael Fannon

It's been a good saga made of a lot of smaller arcs with some being among the best of the series. It also has been long. Around a quarter of all chapters have been in nevermore. It's like the wholecake arc in One Piece. Great arc, but was ultimately just a side job with only a few of the crew that took years longer than many of the main arcs to get through. Nevermore has been fun. It is also a sidestory to build up for the stuff to come.

Michael Fannon

System fuckery.

Michael Fannon

I think Jake will be off to conquer the galaxy in B-grade as part of the Prima things. Jake with his kid the Royal wasp that can grow armies. Riding on a cosmic space worm as the move from planet to planet in a glorious charge to spread the will of Danger noodles.

Michael Fannon

On the topic of lots of revolutions happening on the various worlds while the leaders and strong are gone, I forgot that William is currently on EllHakan's world. Mango man returning to see his world rejecting him and loose control would be wonderful. Especially with Earth be stable thanks to Jake's whims.

Skyler Brown

Perennial Arcane Marble (Unique)

But they arn't meanless because of the item rewards titles and personal progression

KollegvomMirgan

I think the nevermore arc has great heights but as day to day read sometimes turn really slow. I imagine as book when you can read all chapternat once it is much better balanced.

JJB4345_80_815

@ Allen - I absolutely love your theory! I've been so focused on the First Sage's Transcendent Skills and his obsession with records and Origins that I didn't really think enough about his bloodline. When the First Sage asked Villy's help to Transcend this mundane world I didn't give enough credit to an Immortal Mind bloodline. So of course the First Sage was able to find his own path to immortality! And now Villy has that bloodline, while Jake has a drop of Villy's blood in his Soulspace (or is it his Truesoul?). And Jake, having that drop of blood which contains a portion of Villy's records which should also contain a portion of the records that Villy absorbed from the First Sage... What name did the system use to designate the everlasting bead that Jake created in the House of the Architect? Just how many interconnections are there between the First Sage and Jake???

JJB4345_80_815

Well, he couldn't level in the Challenge Dungeons but since we are done with that arc he should start leveling up soon. I kinda wonder if the Challenge Dungeons and the Minaga's City Floor are strategically placed in Nevermore to allow one's records to catch up to their leveling so the participants don't get lopsided/help them to prevent bottlenecking through C-grade. Eh, it's a thought...

KenTX325

I don’t dislike all of the Nevermore arc but I think the pace of it was awfully slow. It needs to be edited to remove 1/3 to 1/2 of the material that is useless fill. The low level fights, the back story on side characters that are meaningless images, and stuff that doesn’t push the main story. This was especially true in the coliseum where we had chapter after chapter of boss fights that weren’t challenging or boss fights. The other thing I disliked about the challenge dungeons is they are meaningless. No levels, no chance of death, no real characters. And the last thing that bothered me is this takes us away from the main story and characters I like.

KenTX325

So if Jake needs 60 levels to get 3 more uses of the skill, and it took about 200 chapters to get the last 54 levels, then we will find out what the sage has to say in about a year.

Zizawah

I really enjoyed the entire Nevermore arc as well. Compared to the tutorial dungeons (of which I was really bored of and felt went on too long) I think Nevermore is much better paced. Could it be cut in places? Sure! For the story time ~40 years, there are several highlights that are vivid in my mind -- the plague, Minaga final fight, the grand champion fight with Valdemar, taking in and losing a disciple, and speed running the endless journey. Yes, I'm ready for this arc to be over but the chapters were fun nonetheless!

Skyler Brown

I like it so adding to this what if the first sages bloodline allowed him to remember everything even alternate version of himself created in a visions/ recreated past moments where he is "alive" with his bloodline fully unleashed but technically still fully part of the system in these moments allowing the true one to fully know because the system is ALL making Jake the very impetus for the First sage wanting to become one with the system in the first place

Lillie30

I don’t know why so many dislike the nevermore arc, sure it’s been going on for about a year now but… I think it’s my favorite arc. Unpopular opinion. Also fuck you anyone who berates me

edgardo rossi

What a legend! Thanks for your hard work

Marcel Diaz

I doubt he'll mmake us do it all again for real. I'm over it too though. Been over it since the demon lord city floor. I've been pleasantly surprised plenty since (that I can still find enjoyment in nevermore).

CaptainFlowers

With the final scores complied and few more floors to go, I for one am really, really looking forward to some C-Grade Jake and God-level Artemis. 🥴

Hayden Leech

Oh fuck we have to do it again in B grade.

Hayden Leech

Hey! Let’s put it to a percentage. Just for laughs. 23.482% of all zogarth posted chapters take place in nevermore. Oof.

Hayden Leech

I mean… it’s our hundred chapter nevermore anniversary….times two. Onwards to nevermore was chapter 652. We are on 852. That’s two hundred chapters of nevermore. Two hundred chapters of a zero consequence simulation aside from the implications that a high rank holds for wider multiversal politics. Bruh.

Hayden Leech

Man. I love primal hunter, been a earliest chapter patron for years. But I’m so done with nevermore. Every not nevermore chapter is a delight but I find myself scrolling through the nevermore chapters looking for other povs. Because I’ve stopped caring how Jake gets his tip score. I personally feel like the story lost the majority of its inertia. I had to go back and re read chapters to figure out exactly why we are supppsed to hate El’Hakan. It’s been SO long!!!

Allan

Here’s a theory, regarding the First Sage’s bloodline and how it might have helped him influence the system. Each and every bloodline has many secrets and abilities, and the First Sage’s has many implications regarding its capabilities, but the thing we’re focusing on today is his bloodlines’ name. The name given by the system to describe the records of First Sage’s bloodline is “The Bloodline of the Immortal Mind” and it allows him to remember everything constantly as if he had just experienced it moments ago, instead of how memories usually work and are only brought out if you need them. But that can’t be all it does, bloodlines operate on a spectrum outside the system, and given the examples shown so far, they seem to get stronger as their owners progress simply due to higher stats and comprehension of the world around them. This is not an increase in the bloodline’s power but merely due to a higher understanding of the world around them. Knowing this, I’m almost certain that the bloodline of the First Sage isn’t as simple as it seems much like all the other bloodlines, perhaps there are other aspects, or simply ways to abuse the bloodline that The Malefic Viper hasn’t discovered so far. The First Sage was born with it after all, and has spent a long time pondering on it’s abilities as it was with him during his whole lifetime, and before people ask why the Viper doesn’t know it’s capabilities as he has had it for a longer time. Well, my theory is that the Viper sealed his bloodline and it’s abilities as well as his memories of the first sage at least somewhat to forget [Redacted] which happened in the 7th era, this was already shown in the novel when the First sage was introduced, clearly stated by the Viper that Jake made him unlock the seal he put on his memories. Now back to the bloodline, there has to be more to it, and it seems perfectly capable of causing him to keep his memories even in death or something similar that might perhaps affect the system in someway, as it is very improbable there just happens to be those two messages left for Jake specifically, if this is good or bad though we would have to wait and see. It is called “the immortal mind” by the system after all, and it wouldn’t seem very immortal if that’s all it did even if it’s already very strong.

KenTX325

I’d like to see Jake spend some time with Artemis , work with Arnold on the space ship, and get some levels. 254 is too low. Maybe get his soul flame before the big fight. I’m hoping the last 10 years of Nevermore and the wrap up takes less than a week.

JJB4345_80_815

No problem! When I re-read the series a few months ago I started to take notes mainly on this one thing. I've been waiting all this time for an appropriate chapter to finally share with others my compilation of minute nuggets of info that I hope coalesces into a wonderful story arc! 🙏🙏🙏

Henscratch

2nd gen fun, literal twist to student “walking in his master’s shoes” Sage has jokes when dropping clues from beyond the grave

Mark Ryane

Jake is getting +5% to everything, all 9 stats, compared to +5% in 3. That is a 300% reward if looking at number of % bonuses. Also your total stats contributes to your overall power and aura, and getting bonuses in all rounds you out a little better, compared to a small increase in just what you're good at.

Ty Cooper

Maybe the Sage saw a chance and sent it into the system and the system made it happen when everything aligned.

Ty Cooper

The Sage had a lot of transcendent skills and only knew what a few did. And I totally forgot William went to El's home world. Nice foreshadowing I didn't catch. El pretty much had his whole world under mind control and he has been gone. Oooh man that might be a great side arc

Mark Ryane

Probably related to Umbra, since she wants to maintain any kind of connection to Jake.

Vega

Success through delegation. The Jake & Viper way.

Steven Myer

IS THE FIRST SAGE THE SYSTEM? WHAT IS HAPPENING AHHH

BlackRazaras

Thanks for the chapter

Yaldabaoth

WooooHoooo! LesssGooooooo!?

Aerlevsedi

A true Hero among us. Thank you.

secretchicken

this just makes it slightly less shit for jake. imagine if a mage doesn't get INT or WIS unless they get 100%. it's still a good title, +5% to a lot of things means more eventual points into one of those primary stats. but Jake would be the envy of many of those 70+% achievers because he's getting +5% to his most important stat and they don't.

ABTelford

No, I doubt that because the sage wanted to die and bringing him back would be cruel and Villy respects the sage too much to do that. But, what if the sage has info that would help bring back Villy’s wife and kid? That would be awesome!

JJB4345_80_815

I'm hoping that the 5 charges will show Jake the First Sage either before the start of the System or right at the Advent of the System. The First Sage was alive before the start of the First Era and has knowledge of what the System Changed. I also believe that Origins is a huge connection between the two of them AND since Jake has a drop of Villy's blood AND Villy absorbed The First Sage's records at the time of his death that a resonance of sorts is amplifying that connection. In the Chapter "Library of the Sage" the First Sage used a Transcendent Skill which the word "Origin" was mentioned twice. And in the chapter "One Hundred Eggs" Jake was able to Manipulate a bee queen core into it's Origin Vesperant Hive Queen Core. Those two have a lot of stuff to talk about...

ABTelford

Yay! Jumping right back into main plot stuff and it’s a tantalizing tidbit! I’m wondering if ELL-Hakans planet is being disrupted by William with his Karma magic? Also the bit about the boots is so good - theories abound! Mine is that the sage could somehow see the future and he saw the Viper being crushed by the death of his wife and kid and will somehow give info to Jake that will help the viper bring them back. Long shot but it’d be so cool!

JJB4345_80_815

Who's to say that the First Sage isn't exactly where he wants to be? He created at least 4 separate Transcendent Skills before dying at peak C-grade. In the Chapter titled "The First Sage" Villy said that to the First Sage death was just Transcending the mundane world. It's kinda obvious (to me at least) with the First Sage communicating through the system generated Boots of the Wandering Sage that the First Sage did in fact find a way to Transcend death. It was also mentioned by another how Villy sees the System Generated Individual used to interact with people on very rare occasions as The First Sage after his passing...

Julian Lienenbecker

I think your assumption about the First sage needing more Power Sounds the Most valid 2 be honest.

Seiryus

Jake uses all stats to at least some degree, so any point he gains in the less important ones is a point he doesn't have to take away from his free stats later on when he needs to round out his build.

Isley

good chappie

Zizawah

I imagine just as we can't see what an actor is reading unless the camera is able to zoom in, they can see Jake examining the boots but can't really tell if he's reading vs. just closely looking at the boots.

mohamed sulaiman

and to add to that, it would make sense for why would he need 5 charges. Tew charges summoned valdemar and helped jake, so maybe the amount of charges brings more power to the reality that gets generated by the skill, and villy did say that the first sage was crazy enough that he shouldn't have existed, which is obvious, so he might be able to gain enough power to hold the system at bay for a while to tell jake something.

mohamed sulaiman

Probably the system, do we remember when the first sage tried to talk to jake after he noticed him in the library when villy was training a skill, then it was stopped? It's obvious to me the system doesn't want such a communication, but there's a chance first sage has a loophole around it and speaking it out loud might draw the atention of the system or something.

Dustin

Sage was a title on the planet he lived on, like Elder, and the First Sage was the oldest.

Darthnarciss

The sage wanted to die. And his power was a curse. Villy as much as he loved the man wouldn't and couldn't do that to him

BearHandMan

Shattering their story

Mat

Villy bring back First Sage to life would be disrespecting the last wish of his teacher. And Villy won’t do it and give what it would mean for Villy, Jake won’t even try to do it. I expect Jake to learn just as much as Villy did from the First Sage. Will that end up helping Villy final succeed in his eras long trials, most likely but when Jake is in higher grades if not Godhood.

ReadingObsessed

Hmm. I wonder why his instinct tells him not to talk about the inscriptions.

Mat

It was a title used in the Territory which the First Sage belonged too

JJ Bb

That's been my understanding so far as well, the multiplier doesn't apply until they exit the dungeon. So right now the leaderboards are just showing their raw points.

Michael

Ok, now I'm curious about what Jake and the sage are gonna talk about. I'm going to laugh if he invites Jake for tea when he uses the 5 charges

Endern

I don't remember it being discussed, but at this point I feel like [Sage] is a Title. And I wonder what its requirements are. Because it does not feel like one a C-Grade should have, so the First Sage getting it in the first era makes it even more impressive.

Decibel790

Oooh, this is a fun twist. Looking forward to seeing the sage again.

austin kutz

I'm pretty sure that Jake and Villy are going to bring the First Sage back to life using the boots. Villy is working hard figuring out how to bring people back to life and here are the boots, a mythical item deeply connected to the records of someone important to the both of them. They're definitely going to find his true soul in the boots or a link to it

Micah Molina

Maybe, but that means the leaderboard is useless on this floor. Because teams like Arnold's have been doing the Challenge Dungeons as they became available. Meaning they completed 2-3 out of the 5, before floor 70. So it's skewed in favor of those who already completed those with good scores.

mohamed sulaiman

Yeah I'm pretty sure when the first sage arc comes, if there will be ever one, it'll probably be the best arc in the entire story, unless if villy really fights yip, and even then it's doubtful, call me crazy but my favorite arc is the vampire one because it really gave the creeps and it had the fight where jake fought old man miamoto, which in my opinion is the best fight in the entire story.But I like mystery characters more, especially old overpowered folks who somehow can break the broken laws of reality themselves.

Anthony Duenas

If Villy is watching Jake why couldn't he see the inscription when Jake looked at it.

Devin

Looking forward to seeing the sage again! Something truly unique, no wonder he is so interested in Jake, it’s probably something they have in common. A unique characteristic this is not only outside the system but above it as well

jb qspam

And that’s just the Challenge Dungeons, he’s sitting on 140% total multiplier, and who knows if he’ll get more later.

Christian Sullivan

Can't wait for the final 140%+ to knock everyone down a peg.

jb qspam

I’m wondering if the multiplier doesn’t kick in until after a Nevermore run is finished. So point totals might be base numbers and we don’t find out what someone’s final total is until after the 50 (?) year run. Anyone know if I’m off base?

joel southard

Nice thank you for the chapter

Ty Cooper

Oh it will be great. El' will come up all boastful with his huge crowd that tails behind him, while Jake compliments a 95% making El' think he had a higher score and after the sh*t talking starts admits he killed Valdy and got a 105% bonus.

Ty Cooper

Been curious about that also, but I think the clerk looted it off an assassin. Either a failed assassination or the clerk killed an assassin and is worried about repercussions.

Daniel Hamilton

It’s Friday, the worst day of the week, Monday is a long ways off 😪

Daniel Hamilton

Could be because Jake’s party is not all done yet

Johnny_B

Thanks

Endern

It was in Chapter 631 - Getting That Booty

secretchicken

you can easily identify primary stats as the ones most heavily invested in, the higher the stat the higher it's priority. or go by class point distribution. again, the rewards are great, the reward for 100% is objectively better than 90%. but what i'm trying to say, is 90% is an amazing jump in power, but the power jump from 90% to 100% is not as amazing, but the difficulty and rarity is immeasurably higher to get to 100% some hypothetical numbers to get my point across: if primary stats contribute 75% of total power output: the 90% achievement: 1.05*0.75+0.25=0.7875+0.25=1.0375 that's a 3.75% increase in power from the 90% achievement the 100% achievement 1.05*1=1.05, a 5% increase in power. objectively better, of course. but the reward for the SUPER DUPER AWESOME ACHIEVEMENT is only 5/3.75=1.33=33% better than "2nd" place. just looked up some tourney IRL, and the reward for 1st place is more than 300% better than that of 2nd place. (300k$ vs 1mil$) but if nevermore awarded money, 2nd place would be 300k$, and 1st place 400k$. IMO, this devalues the incredible achievement and reward for doing the (almost) impossible.

Martin Hájek

Leaderboards so far always updated on entering the floor… so it will be visible on next city floors leaderboard

Johnny_B

What's with his cloak? I don't even remember it or where he got it.

TwistedVanity

I do love chapters this intriguing... First sage stuff rocks.. and the slow boil

TwistedVanity

EDIT. ...been to impetus behind establishing one of the most stable planets Should be been THE impetus

Lo-Fi

I'm not saying the title's rewards are overwhelmingly great but I think it is because Jake has been kind of spoiled with the amount of OP titles he's been given as he is an Integratee of a new universe and this is Zogarth trying to establish the multiversal norm.

Lo-Fi

I mean firstly Jake's build uses a lot of different stats so I don't know what stats the system would identify as his "Primary ones" beyond perception. Secondly, sure in your hypothetical example a person might not give a sh*t about their lesser-used stats but surely if you're in a multiverse full of talented people - you should want as many stat points as you can get in all stats, right?

brennon Petersen

Tftc!

secretchicken

it's not a bad thing, just not as good. the jump in power from getting +5% to primary stats is bigger than getting +5% to secondary stats. you want both, but the bigger reward is a boost to the primary stats, and yet this reward is given towards the lesser achievement. and this isn't as much about what stats are good for jake but about reward distribution. if 2nd place in a tourney is a 500,000$ and 1st place is 520,000$, you would feel kinda cheated, the reward for 1st place should be 750, or 1mil, or more. For another example: imagine a lopsided build where the person doesn't give a fuck about the lesser used stats, literally useless. but the reward for performing better in the challenge dungeons is literally wasted on them.

TKOva

Also he uses 5 all his stats. Which all stats are great and do something different. And Jake is an all rounder so it make sense.

Micah Molina

Awesome! Finally the Heretic-Chosen charges have been settled. I was beginning to think Jake had forgotten them again. So the System, straight up gave Jake the boots. That's interesting, if the System is a type of collective that the First Sage became a part of, then that kind of implicates the System has direction for its own growth. Edit: a question: doesn't the current city floor have a leaderboard? Do they not update with the Nevermore points acquired from the Challenge Dungeons? I'm just asking, because shouldn't they be able to see when the top score changes?

Xarow

Great chapter thanks!

Max

Now I want to know what’s up with that cloak.

Adam Owada

Can't wait for Ell'Hakan to learn Jake got 105%, that guy's a douche

Naotsugu97

TFTC. Enjoy the weekend y’all!

Athena

tftc :) "been to impetus" -> "been the impetus"

Lo-Fi

He is getting +5% in all stats, how is that a bad thing? Plus we've been told how difficult it is to attain stat percentage-boosting titles so it shouldn't be too surprising.

secretchicken

sorry if this is a bit late, but i thought of this a few minutes ago and it's kinda bothering me, the rewards for the 90% challenge dungeon multiplier is 5% boost to the top 3 stats, shouldn't it be for the bottom 3 stats? as it is now, Jake is getting diminishing returns for performing above and beyond. cheeto is getting 5% to his most useful stats and jake is only getting that and 5% to his lesser used stats.

JJB4345_80_815

Thank you for the chappy, Zogarth! Edit: For those of us that might want to do their own research into the First Sage (FS), I compiled a list. The FS was first introduced (to my knowledge) in Chapers 542-544 where Villy tells Jake a lot about FS in 544. Among the info, the First Sage died in peak C-grade, Had the Bloodline of the Immortal Mind and AT LEAST 4 Transcendent Skills, Was obsessed with Records b/c they were the perfect form of memory and viewed dying as simply a form of transcending above the mundane world. In chapter 568 - A Feathery Reunion - Jake felt the gaze of the First Sage upon Villy w/o Villy noticing. Then Chapters 576-578 are big ones where in 577 Jake witnesses the First Sage using a Transcendent Skill on Villy where the FS says "...Allow your mind to form the Origin." 578 - Origin is something to do with the core of a Truesoul. In Chapter 593, Jake was offered the profession of "Harbinger of Primeval Origins" which he rejected BUT it does go deeper into the mythos of Origins. In Chapter 618 - A Hundred Eggs Jake uses his Primal Energy to get the bee queen core to embrace it's origins and in 619 Jake is rewarded with Core Manipulation of the Primal Hunter. Jake upgrades his boots in Chapter 631 & the first message of the boots appears in Chapter 634. In Chapter 639 a void god called Jake the "Human of Origins Lost. Beings of Paths Once Untravelled." As you might have guessed from the above, I might have an unhealthy obsession with the First Sage/Origins... 🤪

Mohammed Sheekh

FINALLY, the challenge dungeon is finished, let's sum this whole arc up please, let's get to the prima guardian arc now

Dennis Bell

Thanks for the Chapter

Maybe a typo especially for those who had usually ruled with an iron first -> especially for those who had usually ruled with an iron fist

Blem

One must remember when the viper “sees” the system it is the first Sage. Like when Jake sees that blank humanoid thing.

Valhazstromoz

Good ol sage trolling Jake through item descriptions

Strato Junon

The first sage merging with the system seems most likely to me. But who knows. Looking forward to the eventual resolution of this. Looking forward to Jake releasing his score as well. Tyfc!

Thenais

Nice

Lo-Fi

Epic


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