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Chapter 883 - Temporary Farewells
🕑 Added 2024-04-01 11:11:59 +0000 UTCJake wasn’t sure if he should have said or done anything before Ell’Hakan left. It felt as if he had given the other Chosen the floor and allowed him to say and do whatever he wanted… but that didn’t necessarily mean what Ell’Hakan had done was in his best interest.
As the saying goes, never interrupt an enemy when he is making a mistake.
Ell’Hakan was clearly under the impression the relationship between Jake and Villy was on thin ice. That Jake was not satisfied with him as a Patron. That, or at least he believed Jake didn’t hold any loyalty toward Villy… which he was kind of right about.
Jake didn’t hold the kind of loyalty one would expect of a Chosen toward a Patron. He held no faith, and he wouldn’t just do whatever the Viper told him to do. Ell’Hakan and Yip of Yore had already figured this out from the looks of it, making their current strategy make a lot more sense.
Eversmile is likely involved in some way, too, Jake also mentally noted, as he considered the situation more deeply.
From this entire thing, coupled with what Carmen said, Jake reached a conclusion… they had officially adopted a narrative that did not require them to kill Jake. This was likely a direction they had moved toward for a while, but only now did they state it outwardly and speak it into reality. The fact this had been done in front of a crowd that would quickly spread it to every major faction in the multiverse also wasn’t a coincidence.
They wanted to show that they held no animosity toward Jake, just the Malefic Viper. The way they framed it also wasn’t entirely idiotic. Jake doubted it would be long before it was also common knowledge that Valhal was interested in recruiting Jake, potentially even offering him a similar position. All of this was to give Jake an escape.
Ultimately, this meant Jake staying with the Malefic Viper was framed as a choice. That Jake chose to stand on the side of an evil tyrant, despite having been given ample opportunity not to, giving them an excuse if they did somehow kill him. Perhaps they also bet on Jake’s sense of self-preservation and wanted to clarify that should he choose to bail the proverbial sinking ship, there would always be a lifeboat waiting.
Jake would guess the two spin doctors didn’t really want to do this but felt forced into it. There was definitely pressure from many factions who would oppose Jake’s death before they could make use of him. With his new achievement as the top performer of the All-Time Leaderboards, he had only grown further in fame and gained the interest of even more major factions.
This entire situation is messy… but not really that complicated, Jake thought. And it truly wasn’t.
Yip of Yore wanted to kill the Malefic Viper to become a Primordial Slayer. This was the crux of it.
Ell’Hakan was helping Yip of Yore to do this, initially by trying to kill Jake.
Even if that had now changed, the core of what Ell’Hakan wanted to accomplish remained: to have the Malefic Viper lose his Chosen. Just rather than losing his Chosen by Jake dying, he would lose him by Jake choosing to jump ship, which would definitely also negatively affect the Viper… because if not even his Chosen believed he could win and stood behind him, did he really stand a chance?
Of course, Ell’Hakan and Yip had made one major mistake. Ell’Hakan had been right about one thing, though: one can truly only do their best, but the best one could do was limited by knowledge… and those two clearly had no idea Jake was a Heretic-Chosen, nor could they comprehend the concept behind a god and a mortal genuinely just being friends.
The large hall had become silent with Ell’Hakan’s speech, and it took quite a few seconds before anyone made a sound after the Chosen left. All the focus was on Jake, and from the looks he got, many of them seemed to believe something positive had just happened to Jake. Which, in some ways, it had. Ell’Hakan had admitted to what he had done, and even if he had apologized… well, Jake wasn’t obligated to forgive.
Not that he was going to say anything to anyone. The less he gave away, the better.
As Jake stood there, the Fallen King sent over a telepathic message.
”An apt strategy adopted by the Chosen of Yip. He has created a situation where he is no longer the aggressor, and many believe it would only make sense for you to forget and forgive whatever he, in their minds, minor mistakes he’s made. Everything ended up nicely being blamed on the Malefic Viper, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the next time you have a public meeting, he will offer you some kind of compensation to make his actions also match his words.”
”Honest, he can do whatever the fuck he wants. He killed Chris, that’s unforgivable,” Jake shot back.
”Yes… but in the eyes of others, he just killed a fanatic serving the Malefic One. An insignificant D-grade. Lives are not equal, and someone like you or Ell’Hakan could kill millions without anyone truly caring. In their eyes, your value exceeds countless weaklings,” the Unique Lifeform continued.
Jake wasn’t going to argue as he knew the Fallen King was right. Shit, some would maybe even argue Jake had done more to Ell’Hakan than Ell’Hakan had ever done to Jake, simply by beating him on the Leaderboards and hurting his pride while killing several of his comrades during the ”misunderstanding” that was his invasion.
The mood in the conference hall had shifted quite a lot after Ell’Hakan had done his thing, and his departure seemed to have marked the end for many others, too. Jake saw Wintermaul leave, only throwing a single glance toward Sylphie while departing, with Jake throwing one in return, making the ice elemental hurry out. The Holy Church didn’t stick around much longer either, and Jake saw Carmen leave with a group from Valhal soon after. The same was true for Casper and Caleb, who went with their respective factions.
Before even arriving at this meeting, Jake had already been informed that they would be offered passage back to their home planets or wherever else they wanted to go. All was facilitated by the Wyrmgod. In retrospect, this was probably a necessary service to not leave a bunch of mortals stranded on a floating disc in the middle of the emptiness of space.
Soon, as the hall was thinning out, the Sword Saint returned to their group, bringing along a certain dryad. Dina looked like she had some mixed emotions, and Jake understood why. Everyone but Sylphie and the Fallen King from Earth also tactfully left, leaving their Nevermore party as the only ones left.
”The gang is all back together,” Jake smiled as Dina rejoined them.
”Ree!” Sylphie screeched happily, making Dina smile, even if she couldn’t quite hide her sadness.
They had spent the vast majority of the last fifty years together, a huge part of their lives. When it came to pure life experience, likely the majority for all but the Sword Saint and maybe the Fallen King. In the beginning, Dina had been reserved and barely spoke to anyone but the old man. However, with time, she opened up a lot, happily discussed things, and shared her vast knowledge of the multiverse imparted to her as a high-level member of a large faction.
So Jake understood her emotions now that things were coming to an end and they would have to go their separate ways. Even if it wasn’t a goodbye, no one knew when they would meet up again. Jake and company were all to return to their own universe, where she couldn’t follow and likely had quite a few system events to go before their universe would open up fully.
Additionally, it wasn’t as if Dina didn’t also have her own things to deal with. She was the granddaughter of Nature’s Attendant and held his Bloodline, giving her many responsibilities and limitations, and especially now that she had placed top 100 on the Era Leaderboards, the expectations of her had only risen further. Making friends while in a position like hers surely wasn’t easy; Jake knew that pretty damn well, being the Chosen of the Malefic Viper. He was just a lot more lucky that many of the people around him didn’t really care overly much that he was a Chosen.
”I… I nearly forgot,” Dina said as she looked at Jake. ”Congratulations on the All-Time Leaderboards… and thank you for allowing me to accompany you during this time.”
”Eh, I should also be thanking you for helping me even get the record,” Jake waved her off with a smile as he joked: ”Then again, we did all carry our own weight, so maybe we should all thank each other in some circlejerk of gratitude?”
”There is no need to openly display gratitude between equal partners, it’s simply an implicit understanding,” the Fallen King added, both ruining Jake’s joke and being pretty on-point. There truly was no need for anyone to thank the others.
Dina smiled a bit. ”Still… thank you.”
Jake shook his head, not really bothering to argue about something this dumb. They had plenty of dumb arguments over the last half a century, and there was no reason to add another one to the list.
”Where are you headed from here?” the Sword Saint asked Dina, partly to change the subject.
”I’ll be heading home with Grandpa. I was told there was a celebration back there for all those from the Pantheon who took part in Nevermore,” she answered before turning to Jake. ”Grandpa also said you should come visit once you find the time… but I think all of you would be welcome if you wanted to come by.”
”Sounds like something worth considering,” the Sword Saint nodded.
”Perhaps, but not before we have handled this Prima first,” the Fallen King added.
”Not like we’re in a rush,” Jake shrugged as he looked at Dina. ”Do tell Nature’s Attendant and Artemis that I’ll come by at some point after the Prima Guardian is dealt with and things calm down a bit. I doubt any visit I make will be a brief one.”
”Ree!” even Sylphie agreed.
”Okay!” Dina smiled, happy they all seemed open to one day stopping by.
Their group was quiet for a while before the Sword Saint spoke once more. ”I believe it’s time we stop delaying needlessly.”
”Yeah…” Dina said, her smile rapidly fading.
The Sword Saint shook his head as he reached over and put a hand on her head, rubbing her hair-like plants. ”This is not a goodbye but a temporary farewell. It’s been a pleasure spending the last few decades with you, Dina.”
Jake just smiled as he saw Dina hesitate before seemingly thinking: ”screw it,” as she went forward and gave the old man a hug. He returned it as he kept rubbing her hair. He already knew that of everyone in their group, she had definitely become the closest with the Sword Saint. Maybe because he also had those grandfather vibes.
Soon enough, the two of them stopped hugging as she also said goodbye to the others. Sylphie got a few scratches before getting pulled into a hug, while the Fallen King and Jake both got more reserved goodbyes.
”We shall meet again, dryad,” the Fallen King said, getting about as polite as he ever got.
”Yep, see you around,” Jake smiled.
”Take care of yourself, alright?” the Sword Saint said as he gave her a final head pat.
”Ree!” Sylphie screeched, waving with one of her wings.
Dina nodded resolutely. ”Farewell for now.”
With that, she turned around and left, only looking back half a dozen times as the four from Earth remained behind in the conference hall that was rapidly emptying out.
”I shall head back to Earth now,” the Sword Saint said after a brief pause.
”And I shall follow. Too many of the World Council have been gone for too long,” the Fallen King concurred.
”Can you take Sylphie with you?” Jake asked the two of them. ”I’m gonna go visit that Demon Prince first and stop by a few other places before I also head back.”
”Very well,” the old man nodded. Sylphie didn’t complain either, as she flew over and landed on top of the Fallen King, who didn’t even protest.
”In that case… see you all back home,” Jake smiled as he turned to leave, heading for some of the people he had to visit before going to the Demon Prince. He wanted to finish all other business first in case something went wrong with that ritual, and he would have to flee Nevermore City. Not like that was going to happen… when did anything bad ever happen when people tried to do rituals that included ancient Devils and Demon Lords?
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Within a vast library, a being was sitting with legs crossed in mid-air while holding a large tome. All was still until suddenly, a hole in space was formed, and a figure appeared.
”He is annoying, isn’t he?” the floating god said with a sigh as he put down the book he had been reading. ”Way too unpredictable. Then again, that isn’t only hurtful to us but to his dear Patron, too. Say, what was his mental state like during your grand apology?”
”Confusion overshadowed nearly every other emotion as he seemed unsure what our goals were. At least in the beginning,” Ell’Hakan answered, totally fine with not beating around the bush but getting straight onto business. ”However, he seemed to realize about halfway through, at which point he suppressed his emotions for the most part. He isn’t very good at it, though. He definitely isn’t a fan of the change in narrative and still seems keen on getting personal revenge.”
”Not anything we didn’t expect,” Yip of Yore nodded. ”Say, what was his emotional response regarding you insinuating he should abandon his Patron?”
”Multi-faceted, but thoroughly lacking in one vital emotion… there was no anger, an emotion I would very much expect from someone being told to abandon their god,” Ell’Hakan said with a smile. ”He also clearly didn’t disagree with any of my assessments regarding his lacking loyalty towards the Malefic Viper, nor my insinuation he is entirely his own person. One thing is certain: Jake Thayne holds no faith in his heart toward the Malefic Viper, even if he does seem to have a generally positive view of the Primordial.”
Yip of Yore nodded slowly. ”That is likely what keeps him with the Order.”
”That, and he would hurt his Path if he left,” Ell’Hakan added.
”Hm? No, not particularly,” Yip of Yore said, Ell’Hakan feigning surprise.
”What do you mean it won’t?”
”He just needs to become a heretic,” Yip of Yore shrugged. ”The system has plenty of safeguards if you choose to abandon a god. In fact, should the Malefic Viper die after he becomes a heretic, he may even become a Usurper. Hm, just imagining it is a bit exciting… to be a Usurper of a Primordial’s Legacy.”
”Perhaps it may even be put on the table as a potential advantage should he abandon the Malefic Viper,” Ell’Hakan pointed out.
”No, let some things remain unspoken,” the god shook his head. ”In fact, let us not focus too much on the Chosen of the Malefic Viper for now. Allow Valhal to handle him, and let’s see if they manage to recruit him, as that would be the best outcome. Killing him at this point would only lead to far too many problems, and quite frankly, I find it uncertain if you would even be capable of slaying him.”
”He is powerful, yes… but-”
”No buts,” Yip of Yore interrupted him. ”His story is too strong right now. Too many are interested in his Path and where it will take him. As of this moment, he is the worst kind of opponent for you, as fate is on his side, so to say, making him far more difficult to deal with than otherwise. If you want to kill him for personal reasons, you need to do it under the proper conditions and framing.”
”Very well,” Ell’Hakan relented. ”As you say, let Valhal handle recruiting him.”
”In the meantime, you know what you have to do. Make your preparations for the Prima Guardian and ensure everything is in place. Even if things have gotten a bit annoying, we will continue as otherwise planned. You may believe this entire debacle was a major setback, but in truth, I do not view it as such. Instead, I see it as an opportunity,” Yip of Yore said as he stood up. ”The Malefic Viper’s prestige is getting more and more tied to his Chosen, meaning should he lose him, the impact will be far grander. And let’s be fair, if we set all the conditions right, the Chosen of the Malefic Viper will abandon him for greener pastures. You should know that better than anyone.”
Ell’Hakan was taken aback. ”What do you-”
”Don’t think I am unaware of your backup plan with the Holy Church,” Yip of Yore grinned. ”I’m not angry about it or even disappointed. In fact, I’m elated that my Chosen is not some moron who would throw all his eggs in one basket.”
It took him a moment before Ell’Hakan realized. ”You’re certain that-”
”Please, do you really think I would gamble everything on getting rid of some Chosen to weaken the Malefic Viper?” Yip of Yore said with a smile, interrupting again. ”Any strategy so reliant on a single element like that is prone to failure… especially seeing as there’s truly only one factor that matters in situations like these. One thing that will ultimately decide the victor.”
Yip of Yore looked down at the mark left by the Malefic Viper’s touch on his shoulder as he traced it with a finger, the mark disappearing wherever his finger touched before he allowed it to reappear again. ”Power. And between me and that washed-up Primordial… well, I got a slight edge.”
Comments
Endless Nature
Thx for the chapter
_mori
Probably the bs power of Plot armor. Although, I noticed that he avoided mentioning how Jake taking the spot for number 1 from him would affect him. His speech seemed more like a threat towards El’Hakkan too. Like Jake can keep Jaking, and he can’t really do anything about it. We already knew that, for the most part. But what was the point about pointing out El’Hakkan’s dubious tendency, while also showing off his power at the end? The way I see it, it’s a warning to El’Hakkan. If the orange creep decides to defect, it’d harm Yip just as bad, if not worse than Jake abandoning Villy would be. On one hand, you could argue that Jake has legitimate reasons for defecting: Valdemar being a patron god for humans, Villy being evil, etc. On the other hand, if El’Hakkan defects to who knows where, everyone would know straight up that he’s jumping ship. A ship that is sinking. Villy doesn’t have to be on the down turn for Jake to abandon him. If El’Hakkan does abandon Yip of Yore, there will only be one easily reached conclusion.
Mat
The last part of this chapter makes me question how Yip arrives at the power conclusion. Remember after their clash during the ceremony, Eversmile told him that if he had genuely faced Villy he would have lost and that was after the Villy touched him. So how does he now have a slight edge over Villy?
Chase Burton
thanks for the chapter
dakota dodson
Bro has a slight edge but forgets about villys rampages
Olof Karlsson
Thanks for the chapter!
Alex
Even Jake only cares about the fact that Chris died and not the shitton of other deaths on Earth. If he didn't know Chris personally and he didn't die simply cause Jake blessed him, Jake wouldn't care either. Jake has killed plenty of people too. He never felt too guilty about all the deaths from Eternal Hunger for example. Or Temlat killing an entire planet. Jake is a lot like the rest of the multiverse, not much caring about deaths. Only if he actually knows them well
Palmer Evans
After hearing how much people think Jake should just forgive Cheeto, I really want the Viper and Jake to end up holding Yip and Cheeto by their necks and broadcast it to the whole multiverse to send the message of “fuck with my people, I will kill you. End of discussion.” Then with terror and despair in Yip’s eyes (while his power leaves him since his narrative is crumbling in real time due to the broadcast), snap both their necks or whatever needs to be done to kill a god.
Kyler
That’d be wonderful
Martín Ballesteros Arias
But think of the troll class of "doomer of Gods" or something like that he could get by killing an S-grade chosen (EH) and sparking the fire that kills Yip, all while in late A-grade and before getting all the levels needed... it'd be fun to see that class
William WIlson
I think Eversmile wasn't speaking of Yip killing the Viper but his desire for the Viper to die.
William WIlson
I think it be funnier if while Jake and Ell’Hakan are fighting in swoops a certain worm who simply eats Ell’Hakan trapping him forever. With sandy then saying he is much tastier than you to Jake.
Max Hamilton
And correct me if I'm wrong but it has been insinuated multiple times that the viper has something special about his strength that leads other primordials to still take him very seriously even after his long period of stagnation And I vaguely remember it being mentioned that when he went on a huge rampage destroying lots of stuff it took many primordials to stop him, though that could be interpreted as stopping him and not truly fighting him thus not being a measure if steength
SqrlyGrly
But sitting on the sidelines surrounded by desolation he caused was a good part of his C Grade. And he managed to level to B in that condition. He very well may have been growing.
SqrlyGrly
Because both Ygg and NA have had kids with others. It is publicly known who her grandfather is, but not her grandmother.
Gavriel
Too late, it's already happening 😂
Zizawah
Never say never :P Who knows how strong Jake will be by the time he’s near godhood and he’s able to stalk Eversmile with stealth? Assuming that Karma can be hidden from eversmile by his enhanced shroud by then.
Mohammed Sheekh
what chapter did he touch yip?
Jeff McCulley
That’s not actually what Eversmile said. And he has repeatedly been proven to be someone who implies one thing while meaning another.
deus vault
Which is why yip is trying to kill a primordial like an idiot. Washed up in his own imaginations. If I got it right.
deus vault
A god won't reach the end of their path then become "washed up" it's probably impossible according to the story unless that god literally dies because his path is gone/broken. By becoming gods they show their need to endlessly persue it.
deus vault
Finally, if nevermore is an indicator then ella'kan would almost definitely achieve godhood as he's made it to the all time leaderboard together with someone like the chosen son. Yip might've been lucky on that one.
deus vault
The only reason I can think of villy not participating is that his path is related to fighting and alchemy. Thus he gives zero shit about the universe because it doesn't do anything for him. A crafting primordial like the stargazing titan also doesn't have a faction. As a monster cultivator villy is better off fighting in the void or something like that and to research to increase his strength. He doesn't need those kinds of records because nothing in the universe can fight him. Yip is the only one who could, and the viper is letting him grow obviously for levels and records.
deus vault
Villy doesn't directly state that yip can kill him. He says that his path is conceptual and that he grows stronger depending on what other people think he should be capable of. By the viper not showing his true strength, villy is essentially crippling yip of yor's chances of victory as he'll need a much grander story to defeat someone that much more powerful. Also, the other primordials are also conceptuals like vlademere and villy is capable at rivaling them through pure strength. Maybe it's the fact that by simply laying back and consuming natural treasures will he grow. Treasures he can make himself using alchemy or find in the wild.
Kevin
Everyone can tell he got stronger, that’s why he was able to obliterate the brimstone hegemon, but his path revolves around fighting and devouring. Sitting on the sidelines and doing none of that for the past 85 eras isn’t really a good way to level.
deus vault
He did say that the talent level rises as time goes up. But I'm not sure if it means that godhood stays the same. You have to jump a serious level to live through one era and defeat someone who grew through 89 eras.
TwoMoreYears
I wouldn’t say EH wants out, even Yip acknowledges the wisdom of always having a backup plan. Arguably EH would be a poor choice for yip if he wasn’t the type to have contingency plans for as many situations as he can reasonably account for. Plus both EH and Jake will likely be busy with the prima for the foreseeable future.
Kevin
This also frightens me. I’d be really angry if all of Villy’s planning just ends with him dying.
Mahetze
@ChRiAn there almost certainly will be timeskips. You shouldn't look at this through "in universe time", but in how many chapters/books it takes. Jake growing and becomeing stronger is a big part of the story, so he probably wont just stagnate for the next 100-200 chapters
Kevin
We don’t actually know how strong yip is. You talk about Villy having ways to grow in power, but the same is true for Yip. Also, your suggestion of cultivating Ell’Hakan to fight the malefic viper is just laughable. Trying to raise someone to godhood is incredibly difficult and fails more often than it succeeds. Trying to raise someone to the level of a primordial is absurd. To also then suggest that you would be able to convince someone on the level of a primordial to fight the malefic viper for you is just idiotic. I’ll also point out that Villy outright says that Yip of Yore’s path is ambitious and powerful enough to potentially kill him. He directly states that he is taking a risk in fighting yip of yore.
Mahetze
Btw isn't her grandmother yggdrasil? I think she and nature attendant are a thing and that it was even mentioned that they had kids ("planted a seed together", also would explain Diana is half plant/a dryad). If thats true, why does everybody only reffers to her as nature attendants granddaughter and never mention yggdrasil (who is a primordial)
Kevin
I’ll also add in to this long conversation and say that due to Jake’s strengthened chosen bond, the viper gets more records and benefits than is normal. This would likely throw off any calculations from the other gods by a good margin.
Kevin
That would be a massive let down. I don’t want to see Yip just die to some random poison Villy apparently already had, or to see Villy casually kill him. I want to see Yip outwitted, outplayed, and outmatched in a final fight.
Mahetze
Every planet gets its own prima guardian. They had the whole vote during the last world council if earth will face their guardian alone or ally with others. After the prima guardian there probably will be the prima watcher event, wich sounds like 1 prima watcher for the whole universe and probably will be at the space station thing where they had the simulation thing going on
Kevin
I think he will leave the moment things take a turn for the worse. I also think there is a good chance that Jake will get his final clash before Ell’Hakan is able or willing to abandon ship.
Kevin
The primordials not wanting a “primordial slayer” makes a lot of sense. You do have a pretty big issue in the theory that they ALL want YoY to lose, since Eversmile directly stated that he wants yip of yore to kill the malefic viper.
William WIlson
Personally I think your half right, where I think your right is that all the Primordial are in to stop Yip. However where I think your wrong is why. Simply put Yip wants the title Primordial slayer and that is the problem.
William WIlson
Hey zog what book are we tentatively on? Where does book 9 end?
Ricardo Henriques
My take on the Prima event is that is going to be open to people who qualify from the 93th Universe and they all are going to be on an specific planet for the event, similar to some fps games. My only worry is that is going to be a hard event and we may get some characters deaths, hopefully nobody important (speculation)
Kyler
What would be wonderful is a stray arrow from Jake after doing a skill upgrade for his finishing arrow killing Yip by complete accident
Jeff McCulley
Jake kill Eversmile? Never. Going. To. Happen. For crying out loud, Jake literally just commented on how scary the guy is.
Jeff McCulley
Yip won’t last anywhere near that long.
Nick Elliott
Also I have long held a theory, apologies of other have said this but it's original to me at least. The primordials are hiding something. Or protecting something. Some knowledge. Or secret to their power. They are in fact fully in league with each other. And all this Yip stuff is part of that and he's an unwilling puppet on their string.
Nick Elliott
Great chapter. Personally can't wait for Jake to get back to the order. Really want to see how Scarlet, meria and irin are doing.
Zizawah
@bearrito You are right. I went back to book 1 Page 305 when Jake got the True Blessing and he was F grade. Villy definitely took a huge chance.
Curtis Cairns
also are we all forgetting his path is limitlessly expanding. villys path is literally every path
Cory wilson
I think while nevermore helped with records it wasn’t the best leveling wise for Jake and his path I think he will pack on some good levels between now and the prima especially profession and even more during the event leaving only a hand full needed for after the prima is gone.
Curtis Cairns
yeah the viper has mentioned he wasnt idle over the years in seclusion. has since collected upgraded gear, has gotten multiple lvls from jake aswell as a new "bonus" for having his chosen on the top spot, not to mention the story teller is running off false information which logically should be crippling to his path and the power he can draw from it in the final show down
Curtis Cairns
He's a primordial. theres no shot yip removed the mark or the viper is weak. only way its actually gone would be if villy let him
Curtis Cairns
100% wish it was true
Myridex
I love the arrogance based entirely on misunderstandings on Yippys part. Like a dude with trillions of years of free time is going to spend the entirety of it with his head in the mud.
deus vault
I'm talking about yor being stupid but sure.
Darshar Griffonmane
Love the chapter! From what I've seen I think Yip and the Viper are both underestimating each other (though Yip probably doing it more based on incomplete information). There will be an initial clash where both surprise the crap out of the each other. A Final, if it happens, confrontation is quite awhile away. Powerful Gods, and Yip is quite strong, are hard to kill for good.
Frederik
I wouldn’t call it insormountable I think yip has at least a chance to suceed even if thats never Happening because of jake
Bearrito
I don't think the Universe realizes that Jake became a chosen at F grade. The lowest grade. That sort of gamble pays even more for Villy.
Blake Noyes
Yeah, it’s definitely not gonna be a short term plot point. I’m guessing they have a minor showdown in like 500 chapters
Sachieiel
I don't really think Villy is going to truly die, much as the stage has certainly been set for the possibility. I could, however, imagine a situation in which Villy fakes his death or does something esoteric to disappear into the system so that we spend a while with Jake being on the ropes on a universal scale (because currently he's too safe due to being Villy's chosen)
Justin van mele
The viper has already gained back the investment he put in Jake and even gain levels in the making of the true royal. The viper is only profiting from early C-grade up, he may have even gotten a ought level with Jake's placement on the raking. There is no way yip has gotten his investment back yet.
Nash Uebel
Everyone from their universe is taking part in it, it’s their first universe wide event specific to them since nevermore is an every era thing
Hayden Leech
Yeah that’s nonsense.
Zayn Bakir
Damn Yip of Yore talking a lot of smack by himself against a “washed up Primordial”. Can’t wait to see how bad Villy teaches him a lesson.
Ty Cooper
It is almost looking like EH might be on the wayside soon. EH seems to want out also. Didn't meet up to Yip's plans.
Ty Cooper
I believe that each planet has one or if they chose to do a united one with other planets.
Nick Nicholson
I thought only Earth natives were able to participate in the Prima Guardian event
Lonnie Sizemore
Villy is definitely a schemer! I look forward to their confrontation in 1200 chapters 😁 The best snub to yip would be for all this plot build up, scheming, and maneuvering behing the scenes with God's is for villy to pop in his realm and one shot him.
BB8ALREADY
IIRC the Viper was able to get back what he put into making Jake his chosen, when he created Vesperia and everything else since has been a bonus for Villy
Gavriel
Nah, all the primordials basically see themselves as siblings, other than maybe Eversmile.
Ricardo Henriques
Sad day when instead of getting 200 more Nevermore chapters we had the last one instead... Ready the Pitchforks Boys!!!! also Mr. Zogarth be ready I have a bold proclamation to make for you: " Thank you For the Chapter! and Hope you Had a Great Easter Holiday!"
Decibel790
Tftc!
Jagswag 4
Also, I feel like if Villy is the one that beats Yip it won't be in a battle but through poison, as that is what he is most known for and what he is supposedly best at. The most ironic way Yip could lose, in my opinion, is by not being able to see the truth. So a hallucogenic style poison where Yip experiences a different "story" from everyone else makes the most sense to me. And he won't be able to get rid of that poison as he would think it's all the true "story".
Frank Allen
Let's also not forget the god's that follow Villy (or in his 'pantheon') are called the Hidden One's. They cooking in the background. Who knows what Villy is working on.
Jagswag 4
He can undo the attack, but if he doesn't even know that he has been poisoned could he undo that part of the attack? Also, I think the biggest difference between Villy and Yip isn't their power levels, but the sheer experience that Villy has over Yip.
TwoMoreYears
I like this viewpoint into Yip and EHs thoughts here. It’s too easy to have Yip just cackle and say something about how things are going perfectly according to plan like he’s omniscient. It’s far better imo to see him admit he’s adapting and just reacting to new opportunities these complications present and acknowledging his story right now isn’t something EH can just push past. TFC.
austin kutz
They probably know that the Viper got a lot for Jake winning Nevermore, but they have no idea how much Villy got for Jake making Sylphie, Sandy, or Vesperia. If I understand correctly, he should also be getting records over time from each of them as they become stronger. Basically, he's getting way more records than should be reasonable for a low grade chosen
Jason Davis
I think the key to the scar (and I had to go re-read to remember this) is that Yip can undo anything that happens around him (probably just things directly involving himself) if he doesn't like it, similar to a god-version of Jake's Eternal Shadow power. He undid the Viper's Touch attack.. but he couldn't undo that searing handprint.
Matthew Lemon
When I think about evolutions I always think back to this "When he would reach his intended grade, no one knew, but Jake looked forward to that day. " - Chapter 591
Jay Doubleyou Kay
Damn, I was hoping for another 200 more chapters in Nevermore.
joel southard
Nice thank you for the chapter
Jared
Maybe he watched too much shonen anime growing up
SinCinnamon
I mean, it’s obvious to whoever is paying attention that the Viper is reaping rewards from his Chosen. The dude is nailing the integration and still low grade. And was taken as Chosen as early as D-grade as far as multiverse knows. Anyone with brains should put 2 and 2 together.
C. Adkins
Now Gavin, we ALL know Jake will mess up the plan. But with the power of friendship, they shall still prevail! (*the power of friendship now with Jake Juice!)
C. Adkins
Also, villy did mention something about “new” records, which yip is brimming with due to the era he is from. Villy would have missed out on new records (even if he was still working on getting stronger) by his lack of interaction with the multiverse for so long. So my theory is that Villy is just fattening up yip for the slaughter. The more powerful yip is before he is killed, the more new records Villy can absorb. (Although now I am also considering how this new Usurper mechanic will play into it. Villy being a god of stories kind of fits his theme and the first sage)
SinCinnamon
Dina adopted another grandfather
Jagswag 4
"Yip of Yore looked down at the mark left by the Malefic Viper’s touch on his shoulder" so the Touch of the Malefic Viper from the actual Malefic Viper. What are the odds Villy could have infected Yip with a poison that he has had 80-ish eras to perfect that no one has seen before and the game is already over.
Bob Fight
So who’s gonna tell him villys been leveling up and already recouped his investment you might not wanna let Jake walk around
TyranT-Rex
In chapter 654, before the team started Nevermore, there was 615 days left till the leader boards opened. In chapter 875 before everyone comes out, Minag mentions that the leader boards have been open for about a year. So it's been about 2.5 years since they went into Nevermore
deus vault
his entire plan is contingent upon the malific viper not doing anything and not gaining any strength. he is either stupid or fooled, because there is no way he has simply given up but probably found a different way to cultivate strength than universal records. otherwise he would still somewhat show his face instead of disappear entirely. probably villy is thinking of him as easy levels. jake being in the way is just a way to strengthen his chosen. if it were me I would cultivate ella'kan to fight him instead to see what he's like. then attack if I had the opportunity to win. honestly he feels too dumb to be true.
Mat
No way!!! Yip is a pinnacle god that means way above god kings(10th level of divinity). So likelihood of Jake one shooting him as S grade is the same as current Jake killing a god
Numbzy
It's not his belief he gets strength from. It's the belief of the larger multiverse. If his legend grows in scope or scale he grows more powerful.
Jason Davis
There was an implication that the time dilation was something like 100-1, I believe, which would imply 6 months plus this after-party time coming up.
Charlie Staner
Yeah I think Jake has to kill eversmile one of these days
Mat
Is that not how his path works? Being able to clam records associated with the legacy about him
Dustin
The Viper held back. He said so, and Eversmile and Yip said the same thing to each other, that they knew he held back. The Viper spent eras trying to come up with a way to bring back his wife and daughter. That means he was working, building records based on that work. Just because he was alone and couldn't kill things, doesn't mean as much as it would for someone like Valdemar.
Dustin
Harbinger Alchemist of the Primal Hunter
John Balman
LoL, as we have said before the game is afoot
Alex
I would also add that even if the viper hasn’t gotten much stronger over the last 80 eras (even it was clearly stated that he has still improved) Yip only has been alive for 1 era while the viper has been fully active for 12. Sure the progression rate is most likely higher in recent times with a higher abundance of ressources but experience also only really comes with time.
Ryan Ulrich
That is correct. Way back the Viper used a lake metaphor to describe it. Records expand the lake boundaries and levels/exp are the water
Arven
It's not all about losing power. The Primordial didn't stagnate during the last 80ish Era, they have kept on growing stronger Era by Era. On the other hand, Vilastromoz has been in isolation since the, I think it was the 8th Era? So, where all the other Primordial are known to have been at the top and getting stronger constantly for 93 Era now, Villy while being probably the pinnacle being during the 8th Era, has supposedly isolated himself from the world for approximately 85 Era, and while it seems to not have impacted him that much in term of growth, he should supposedly be the one whose growth took the biggest hit. On top of all of that, Yip of Yore want a great narrative to make himself stronger, and the resurgence of an Ancient Evil that is met by a Rising Hero, it sure as hell sounds better than him going against the Holy Church or him hunting down the Cosmic Elemental.
Killinger Ryan
I mean not necessarily, you can gain records in nevermore. Also I was messing with those who advidly hated nevermore 🤣🤣
Numbzy
You know, YoY strikes me a 7 year old who thinks if he just "believes hard enough", that his belief will become the truth.
Bob of Doom
More like the System will just give up and make the profession "Jake Thayne of the Melefic Viper"
Bob of Doom
Less than 5. My guess is 2 to 4. Prima was going to show up in 5.
JonO
There was a ratio ...I don't know if exactly but I think it is 10 years at the most, 5 at the least.
Jana
Won’t it be an Successor-Ursuper? As he can’t be the chosen of a dead god but he can be the Successor (or maybe Heir but that sounds strange)
Steven Wood
It was my understanding that records allow you to level and without sufficient records you can’t advance your grade. So records are tangentially related to strength but not an indicator.
Austin Barton
But the records are tied to him this chapter was probably to show he is closer to a usurper chosen or some shit. He is showing that no matter what Jake keeps his malific stuff
Davan Krueger
Yeah they would have been b grade when they got back which means a total and utter ruining of their foundation
donvitogonzalle
Well, who else would Yip challenge to become a Primordial slayer? They all have either huge pantheons, are difficult to trace/put down or you would antagonize too many other factions: Holy Mother: Huge Pantheon Blight Father: Huge Pantheon Dao Father: Huge Pantheon Regoria: Probably Huge Pantheon Yggdrasil: Also probably Huge Pantheon Valdemar: Already tried that and had to flee. Eversmile: Impossible to trace down Aeon Clock: Viper said that he would be the hardest to permanently defeat Wyrmgod: Maybe if he seduces Nevermore? Starseizing Titan: Maybe possible, but I think he is super popular smith among many factions Stormild: Maybe, dont know much about her power
Daniel is ŁØNE
I was about to comment this, he hasn't been particularly reactive in the grand scheme of the universe, bro killed a god unprovoked as his return to the multiverse. It only looks reactionary because he hasn't yet shown his hand, Villy obviously has a plan, he has said or thought as much a couple times throughout the course of the story. There is no point in making an obvious first strike if you have a plan that is either working in the background or requires you to see the first move, in the first case you have already struck and hit the opponent just doesn't know it and in the second a preemptive attack would ruin the plan.
Kevin
He isn’t weaker, everyone else is stronger. As time progresses the average power of the gods increases. As Villy has been gone for over 80 eras, he is the weakest of the primordials. This can be clearly seen in his conversation with Jake during the chosen ceremony where Jake can tell he is significantly less powerful than eversmile.
ChRiAn
Great new chapter. Do we know how long Nevermore took? And don't say 50 years, I mean real time, so we know how long until the Prima appears.
ChRiAn
But it was stated multiple times that growth and strength is related to records. And the other premordials had 85 eras to get stronger via new records while Villy locked himself in his room to sulk. So it stands to reason why people would think he is weaker than the other premordials now.
ChRiAn
He needed 50 years in a specially design leveling dungeon to go halfway. Unless there is a time skip I can't see it happen too soon.
Themo Grulld
Are you sure this one is not the joke chapter.I have my doubts...
ChRiAn
Jake gonna blow up the Holy Land then, just to see if he can fuck with it. And Villy is bugging him for a sacrificial ritual, that could count...
donvitogonzalle
Extending that thought, I could imagine that this was the original purpose of the Drop of Blood, so that Zog can kill of the Viper without crippling Jake.
Harvey Cross
Pretty sure Valdemars the strongest, other than him I don’t there primordials are ranked like that, they all find each other annoying to deal with and have situational advantages, like viper is top aoe dps while eversmile has the “has been smiling for eras and no one wants to find out what happens if he stops” so on so on
kingofshibainu
Will Jake become a Chosen-Userper? Also, Yip, my guy. You're getting played by the Viper.
Killinger Ryan
Disappointed forevermore was an April fools day thing 🥹🤣🤣
Chrisbirdie
I mean you sofar the only one we can be pretty sure is stronger than Villy is Valdemar.
Captain the Red Beard
Thanks for the chapter!
Darthnarciss
Did the multiverse forget that villy was the one who went on a path of revengeance and needed basically every other primordial to make him stop? Like if you want to be a primordial slayer, don't go after literally the strongest one. We have seen nothing about God's losing their powers over time, so just becuase he disappeared for basically all of history doesn't mean anything.
Darthnarciss
Against yip? Sure, at least nothing overt. Who goes all out against an annoying neighbor kid. Against the multiverse, I mean his very first official action upon returning was to slay a God within said gods own realm
Dustin
It doesn't say he will keep the Viper's blessing, just that he can't get another one.
Phillip Hazlett
Tftc :)
Niklas Høj
Exactly, thanks! Just found it in Book 3 Chapter 18 - One-sided. Setup was in Book 3 Chapter 17 - Clouds & Brimstone. Good memory. :)
Sean
But weaker is relative to his strength not others so using weights as an example he could bench press 100 lbs and now he can only do 95 lbs. However YoY can only do 88 pounds. YoY came way after Villy so there isnt something he can measure himself against Villy to truly understand his power.
Trevor Mergen
Thanks!
jfm201
I think it was book 3 right after he destroyed the brimstone hedgemon. It was chapter 18 the First Meeting of yip und vilas
Cory wilson
Thoughts on when Jake will hit B grade I’m assuming not long after the prima event.
Isley
good chappie
Mateo Lopez
I’m honestly thinking that Yip of yore is gonna be the god that gets one shot by Jake when he is a peak tier S-grade
evan maples
Oh lord jake is going to bring back a long dead archangel and not just any archangel the number one demon hater michael
Hayden Leech
Book 3, chapter has brimstone in the name if I recall.
InfernoDroid
The viper did say himself that he had grown weaker (well it was more of an inner monolog) during his isolation
Gavin
Aeon is still a problem most likely. I do think though that Villy is likely far scarier than they realize
donvitogonzalle
The fact that Zog reestablishes for a second time that one can keep a blessing, even if the god in question dies, makes me a bit worried about Villy. From Chapter 594 (right after he evolved his profession to C grade): "Your bond with the Malefic Viper is further strengthened as you now share not only a karmic and bodily connection but a bond of history and Records, sharing memories known to no one but the two of you. You will no longer be able to receive a new Blessing even if the Malefic One perishes unless you purge yourself of all his Records."
Gavin
That you're ignoring their Planning, cunning, overall better skill sets And talent being ignored is bothering me 😂
InfernoDroid
It was stated before nevermore that the viper is a schemer, he's setting yip up
Cory wilson
Ohh I hope yip is dead long before then.
Kris Boxall
He’s a snake, he’s waiting for the right moment to strike
Hayden Leech
Grr
Jade356i
Have to bring up a common saying, “you know what you when you assume?” Cause I think Yip is going to be bit in the ass.
Hayden Leech
It’s low key bothering me that the power of friendship might be what saves the life of the malefic viper hahaha.
TKOva
If they do, they're gonna put Jake in straight contention with the holy church. Which I theorized. Hell Cheeto could even be the holy mothers chosen. I legit think Jake will kill the Holy Mother. Probably a decade from now.
Niklas Høj
TFTC! Nevermore was cool, and I'm excited for the next arc! Question: In which chapter did the Viper touch Yip's shoulder in an attack? I seem to recall it happened very early, when the Viper re-entered the world and went stirring up trouble inside some other god's domain also. I'd like to re-read it. :)
Namorat
I can't wait for the world to see his actual status, neither chosen nor heretic, but something new.
donvitogonzalle
Nice theory, but I honestly doubt it. While EHs bloodline is srsly busted, it is far from enough for the Holy Mother going to war against Villy. It is not like they desperately need it, the Holy faction is plenty strong as it is. She also knows that it was Yip/EH who challenged Villy/Jake, and they made the deal with EH fully aware that he might die fighting Jake. And also, the Holy Mother throwing a fit? I got the impression she is very calculating and revenge would not bring any benefits.
Jesse Wilkerson
With the way his bloodline works and the way the holy church works I really think she would. But we can only wait and see. Zogarth might surprise us both.
Logan
Great chapter
Amazon Shopper
holy mother wouldn't care if ell-hakan died tho. definitely not enough to fight the viper over it (with their true body).
Amazon Shopper
meh, for a multi-billion year old primordial(malefic viper) he does seem to be reactive. Which does indicate weakness in this situation. He hasn't initiated a thing in this conflict
Martín Ballesteros Arias
I get the feeling that Jake and Villy could play their cards later on and mislead Yip by making public Jake's status as a Heretic... maybe before/after getting to S grade or something
Hunter Thornton
Oh Sip of Whore, you naive fool, Villy ain’t washed up yet. Plus Jake has literally done the impossible, twice, in this world wonder. What has ElSkanken done other than gain a few levels and start sippin the holy mothers kool aid, an set y’all up for failure cause you’re rushing too much. Z can’t wait to see Villy and Jake stomp these lil pissants
Skanda
I think it's safe to say we are all very disappointed it was a joke
Khaleel Mansi
Yip and cheeto are the worst kind of enemies, politicians!
Gavriel
I find it amusing that noone seems to realize that maaayyyybbbbeeee Villy wasn't just sitting on his butt, maybe he was getting STRONGER. I recall it being mentioned that he basically became obsessed with the step after "god", for a ridiculous amount of time, he should actually be one of the most powerful primordials, if not the most powerful.
Zizawah
I’m thinking more what William stands to inherit in case of eversmile’s demise
Angus
Villy has been holding back since day one with Yip. We saw that at Jakes chosen ceremony. Yip gets the records according to a story he crafts, he’s got the records, currently, to beat a villy that has fooled him into thinking he’s weaker than he actually is. The Viper is 92 eras worth of strength and knowledge ahead of yip, that gap is insurmountable.
Jesse Wilkerson
yip is going to kill the holy mother, not villy. jake is going to kill ell'hakan. the holy mother is going to throw a fit over it and fight villy witch will severly weaken her and then yip is going to pop out and kill her. and then die when villy kills him. this is my official prediction. i still believe that yip is dead on his feet and doesnt know it. i posted a huge comment about that theory in the chapter with yip showing up at the big chosen reveal. so 200 ish chapters ago.
Clint
Hmm. Could EH end up Usurping Yip, before Jake kills him?
Juozapas
Thanks
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Another new concept... usurper.
BumAssBumAss
No way villy showed everything he could do when he attacked yip of yore.
Zizawah
Ell’Hakan had done was in his best interest. — his own best interest — would be better as “his” is ambiguous should he choose to bail the proverbial sinking — bail from
JJB4345_80_815
Yes, thank you for the chappy, Zogarth!
Jaydan Man
If there is no mark and it'd an illusion Villy would know if his abilities work like Jakes
Dillon Fyfe
To be faaaiiirrrrr....
Jaydan Man
Not just that, Villy had just woken up. No way he has just been sat twiddling his thumbs. Or relying on power ups from Jake. Also Yip might not be relying on the chose fight to go his way but if he need it at all he wouldn't bother
Michelle Maurice
TFTC
Pexezz
Thank you
JJB4345_80_815
So it sounds like Yippee didn't experience any degradation in his story for no longer being atop the All Time Leaderboards. But, did he take into account that Jake's performance might have boosted Villy? Edit: which I just read that Hayden Leach had already hypothesized. Oh, well.
JJB4345_80_815
Maybe even an Usurper?
donvitogonzalle
I got the feeling Yip of Yore was a bit of a Heretic himself during his mortal days
Hayden Leech
There’s no mark, it’s an illusion out there by yip to make it look like he is injured.
daniel gager
Slight edge....hmmm
John Looney
He’s about to get more when Jake resurrects the demon god to lol
Phasmatic7
Thankies, zoggie
Steven Ramey
Yeah, Jake should totally just become a heritic and then their plans can work out the way they want that'll totally happen lol
Xander Cadence
Book 3 after brimstone boy
Matthias
Tftc
SunDI7
Yeah the Holy Church would absolutely love to get Ell’hakan’s fucked up bloodline in their faction
Jason Davis
Thanks! I just joined.. couldn’t hold out any longer. Wanted to note that Jake’s c-grade profession doesn’t even let him take a new blessing without damaging his path, though nobody else knows it. Just haven’t seen it reiterated since he advanced to C. (Just adding the quote: "You will no longer be able to receive a new Blessing even if the Malefic One perishes unless you purge yourself of all his Records.")
Gavin
Oh man they are getting played so hard it's embarrassing 😂
Mohammed Sheekh
ell'hakan is gonna go back to his home planet full of karmic disease lol
Hayden Leech
I wonder if all these bonuses Jake is feeding Villy are what makes the difference in the end. Yip touched the scar Villy left on Yip back in book 3 after killing the Brimstone Hegemon. Yip of Yore noticed that he has a “slight” advantage in power over the Viper… but Villy has had a few level ups and assorted power ups since then. That crazy staff made by the starsiezing titan too. Good stuff.
Pexezz
Totally forgot about the hand print part. what was it about again?
Burkes
My boy Yip doesn’t know that bro isn’t just a protagonist, he’s HIM.
BubblyGhost
To be faiiiirrrr, we really haven't seen the extent of the viper ability besides taking out a relatively mid god.
Omar Jimenez
A cunning pair of villains for our protagonists, even if they lack sufficient understanding of the situation... Also, there’s a joke to be made about them being snakes with no loyalty to each other, up against THE primordial snake god (and his buddy).
Zizawah
How funny talking about his superior power when he still has the Viper’s mark and will find to his sorrow that it can be triggered.
Ben Sheahan
Zog is Gandalf
Ira White
I still say nevermore+ was a great idea
BlackRazaras
Thanks for the chapter
Frederik
what schedule? I thought a chapter never comes early or late but always as intended
Powernap
Much better
mmmtvkt
Thank you for the chapter!
Casey Jones
Not good enough on RR so I'm making do
Casey Jones
Not good enough on RR so I'm making do
Naotsugu97
TFTC, right on schedule!
Detrox
Yay
Casey Jones
First lol
