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Chapter 918 - Union Oath 2.0

🕑 Added 2024-05-21 10:51:16 +0000 UTC

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Scott Pfister

The way Z writes dialog involving Sylphie is nothing short of brilliant. So smooth and easy to follow, funny, and heart-warming all at the same time.

Koala Man

I just ent the last week reading all the books , now I’m caught up . Excellent read thx :)

Kconraw

Thx for the chapter

Ryan

At the end there was stormild talking about saying hi to the first sage

Armando Pastrana

I'm pretty sure it's a gender thing

Joshua Reynolds

Is Stormild multiple people? I don’t get why it says “proved themselves”. Maybe I missed something.

Olof Karlsson

Thanks for the chapter!

John Kinkead

It is definitely wintermaul

Exaiter

The contract, so adorable 😁

Trevor Mergen

Thanks!

Taylor

Is the doggo the mutual?

Codewrds

Welp! Time to reread the series from the beginning.

Jeff McCulley

Might as well add this here… “…with all its benefits and demerits.” It’s been nagging me that “demerits” has been used oddly all through the story. The nigh phoneme would be “detriments”, but “drawbacks” or “disadvantages” would work as well. Er, if you only wanted to use a “d” word. In English, “demerits” generally indicate a negative tally, as in school kids having a certain number of negative marks against them for misbehavior. It’s not really an antonym to “benefits”.

Austin Barton

Well yeah but I want to know the skill

Jeff McCulley

I wonder if it’s because it’s only “Forbidden Knowledge” to one of her personalities? Like, the others hiding on the pages behind it didn’t get the rubber stamp?

Jeff McCulley

Yes, it it’s still badly phrased.

Jeff McCulley

No, it might mean that Stormild was his “best bird”—and neither actually entered a state of existence that would break the Union Oath. Zog went to great pains here to explain what the exact terms of a full Union Oath are. Look at it this way. When Jake and Sylphie are both gods, she’ll have a chance to ask him for a permanent Oath.

Jeff McCulley

My assumption was that Stormild has some special ability the way Villy does.

Jeff McCulley

The main reason I’m thinking he does another Harbinger bit relatively soon is because his profession is so far behind his class. And it seems like the Prima Guardian event (and then the Labyrinth) will only make that worse—and Prima is only maybe 6-9 months away. Not enough time to close that gap before then. So “relatively soon” is still after Prima. And his shiny new dungeon.

Jeff McCulley

As he said, it was just showmanship. That part wasn’t binding. What the System displayed was.

Jeff McCulley

The only person “acquainted” with the Ghostvine, to even meet it, is Sandy. Jake just got chased off by tendrils.

Jeff McCulley

The primordial church sculptor wouldn’t do it. Simple reason? Minaga isn’t a primordial, so he’d have zero interest.

Jeff McCulley

Simple. She remembers because she has some as yet unknown special ability—as Villy does—that allows her to.

Jeff McCulley

We’re assuming that it’s the First Sage BECAUSE it’s Forbidden Knowledge, which would mean it’s least expected—and would mean that she has a way around it too. I have zero idea why anyone would think that Zac would consider the Ghostvine a friend. She literally said “mutual friend”. For that matter, there are clearly events local to Jake that she’s not keeping up on (which the Moon would be)—but she can SEE his boots.

dylan

Hopefully artemis and world tree

Matthew Lemon

Ell'Hakan is chilling on his planet until an arrow pierces through the planet, into the core and whole planet explodes.

Rui

tbf, i can see that happening. eventually Jake gets a pretty nice soul flame, and Jake contacts the dragon and he starts stressing out about the meeting, only for Jake to show up say "look, i got a soul flame, how do i use it"

Joshua Toennis

My guess is first sage!

Tim Bartlett

Sylphie just nodded as if such advice was entirely unneeded. Which is probably was. should be, Which it probably was.

Salguod

Finally caught up and can stop bingeing 😌

Davin Rod

Swing and a miss.

Johnsmith

I think it more likely the Prima turns out to be a B-grade than Jake one shotting it.

DirePants

Why is everyone assuming the Sage? Forbidden knowledge remember? It’s more likely the Ghostvine but I’m not completely sold on that either it’s just the freshest and most recent interaction I can think of since Nevermore. I never really thought Jake would destroy the moon- it’s more likely he’ll find some way to change the ghostvine and give it a sentient mind or fix what’s broken. A recurring them with Jake is Creation and Destruction. That’s what a good hunter is, after all. I had a thought unrelated to this topic- but imagine jack shooting an arrow at a target on another planet while still on earth? lol I hope we get something like that!

Arkenian

So, if we hold to the theory that all primordials interacted with first sage, it seems likely that having done so was, itself, a critical factor in their achievement, a necessary but insufficient factor to achieve God hood in the first age. That said, it need not always have been a deeply personal interaction like villy's, maybe eversmile gained insight into karma from a ransom encounter with a stranger in a bar. He remembers the words or the event, but the stranger isn't important in his view. This also seems fairly likely because otherwise it feels like the primordials would have noticed the connection.

Decibel790

Found a couple errors; in the first paragraph, yes, of course, he was -> yes, of course he was. Do you wish to begin the ritual to enter a union oath of stormwild-> stormild. Thanks for the chapter!

KenTX325

He needs a lot of records and it should be something that gets him levels. One candidate is a soul flame in the cradle. Use all the others to make a strong one. He should make the dragon back at the order help him as punishment for screwing with him.

Mike

Probably the first Sage, Stormild might have some power or associated records that have allowed her to not forget him

Rui

tbf, i did said it was a bold prediction. i was thinking on elementals (or entities that might be or partial) since Stormild only really gives a crap about them.

Austin Barton

My only question is how did eversmile forget about him but not stormild

Austin Barton

The shared friend is prob the first sage

Thenais

wishlist : - Prima get oneshot by Jake - Jake design a statue of minaga with construction hat, and the primordial church sculptor got it ready for the labyrinth opening ceremony.

Clint

Mutual Acquaintance = Wintermaul?

Nick O'Gara

If I had to guess, the thing is probably the eternal servant. They seem to be a running joke between primordials and their chosen.

ItWasIDIO!!

True still makes her a forbidden knowledge holder it's just forbidden "forever friend" knowledge

Dominick Gelardi

Both sentence structures mean the same thing here. "...it definitely wouldn’t be done before the Prima Guardian event," or "...it definitely wouldn’t be done until after the Prima Guardian event." Both versions are saying that the labyrinth won't be done in time for the Prima event. Personally, I think it would flow better and be less of a change by taking out the "after." But, we can only suggest a course of action to Zogarth

Alex Cox

Because it would make him a baddie, to use sage words.

Jason Hardman

There did seem to be something conflicted in the behaviour of the Ghostvine. It's not unreasonable to expect Jake to help it overcome some taint, and make it a friendly moon entity instead.

Jason Hardman

I read it as intending to say "until after" myself.

Tommy

Stormild was in some way The First Sage’s “best bird” is my bet

Seamus Harley

"Mutual Aqaintance", not a friend, ghostvine might be correct

SmokeJam

Well the system might not be able to "delete" certain personal karmic connections which Eversmile doesn't have, but Stormild got it through some special Oath or similar stuff.

SmokeJam

or she just has some form of Oath with the First Sage and as it is probably eternal, even Forbidden Knowledge can't erase it.

SmokeJam

[...] Words reappeared as the Primordial asked in a serious tome. -> serious tone TFTC! I'm super interested in the First Sage story, can't wait for Jake to get his reloads ready and learn some more. I do believe it is him Stormild meant as she apparently doesn't want to or can't be more direct and she might have a way to circumvent Forbidden Knowledge with her Oath-abilities. This could be a very classic misdirect too though, I wonder if we ever get a result or if Jake simply forgets about it after the Prima Event :D

SmokeJam

Two counter-arguments: 1. The B-Grade on the moon is no "natural" elemental entity like Sylphie. Yes, she got influenced, but she was still hatched and brought into being in a system-normal way. The Ghostvine is neither intelligent nor a free elemental like Sylphie. It is a broken Path, locked to the moon and probably locked in B-Grade too. So I do not believe Stormild will have any interest in that thing. 2. While Forbidden Knowledge is in effect, Stormild might have another way to get around it. Seeing how she is able to create Union Oaths, I can see her having a connection to the First Sage in some way. And yes, if the Prima Guardian isn't B-Grade, the Ghostvine will be the first casualty^^

Jeff McCulley

The ghostvine is distinctly not Jake’s friend.

Austin English

I like this theory. The sage is stormild uncle figure like Jake is to sylphie.

Aerlevsedi

I figured it meant before the prima event finishes, or maybe it means it'll be ready during the event sometime.

Dominick Gelardi

Paragraph 3: before after the Prima; "after" is not needed, makes sentence awkward

Ryan Ulrich

Remember, Villy and Jake are the only ones that know the FS is the FS. He could’ve introduce himself as someone else to the other Primordials and we have no way of knowing if they retain memories of him or not. Villy never shared that knowledge with the others because he didn’t want to and now he can’t. They may be the same. We just know they don’t know about the ‘FS’

Rui

a lot of assumption that the acquaintance is the first sage, but i'm gonna make a bold prediction: it's the Ghostvine in the moon. Stormild only gives a crap about other elementals, and a ghostly presence could mean some sort of elemental figure. Also, the forbidden knowledge stuff should also apply to her, Villy is an exception since he has a bloodline that directly counters that, so unless Stormild also happens to have it, or something similar, i doubt she would know about him. Also, it's almost guaranteed that the Ghostvine will either be the first B-Grade Jake defeats before getting into B-Grade, or he will use his "juice" to create some sort of amazing thing with it.

Rui

not sure, from Villy description of Stormild, she doesn't care about anyone that isn't an elemental.

Rui

yup, from what i understand, the only reason Villy knows is because of his bloodline that counters forbidden knowledge.

DDHG

I feel like Jake unknowingly got tricked into a union oath wedding by Stormild for the way it was worded. The "Do you" part of a oath is kind of suspect.

Aidan

Moreso the "before after" being next to each other is jarring. "Until after" or some similar alteration would help the flow of the sentence.

Jason Davis

It's possible, maybe, that Stormild has the same bloodline as Villy, or at least something with the same effect?

David

Any bets on who Jake will use his Harbinger of Primeval Origins powers on next? I just hope he ends up using the moons core in one of those rituals.

Ty Cooper

I find it funny that Stormild told Sylphie she doesn't need to go as hard as Jake does.

Ty Cooper

That would be crazy because the FS is now forbidden knowledge. I am still not sure how it works with the person that lived through the memory. If she knows he is going to meet the FS seems crazier then her knowing of the FS.

Daniel Hamilton

it definitely wouldn’t be done before after the Prima Guardian event. Sentence needs to be fixed

BlackRazaras

Thanks for the chapter

Arieh Sochaczevski

TFTC. I hadn’t thought of the First Sage because I assumed his memory was gone from the multiverse excluding Villy and Jake. It makes some sense there could be other, except that if Eversmile lost it, then that implies the system went all-out.

Michael

Zog, you keep putting more evidence to confirm my theory here. The first sage was involved with every primordial, and I'm guessing because of the union oath, storimild is capable of not having her memories of him erased due to forbidden knowing factors

ItWasIDIO!!

Huh... she knows but t Eversmile doesn't guess Villy isn't the only keeper of knowledge

Corwin Amber

thanks for the chapter 'before after the Prima' -> 'before the Prima'

ChRiAn

Good to see my mind wasn't the only one to jump immediately to the first Sage at the end.

ChRiAn

Maybe Minaga, I could see them getting along.

ChRiAn

Doubt it. It sounds to much like Jake already knows that person.

Mateo Lopez

Think Stormild knows about the First Sage? I doubt it myself though

Owen Kaz

Hmmmm, so Stormild has met the First Sage. And not only that, but she? Remembers

Michelle Maurice

Tftc

Chase Koehn

It appears Stormild is aware of her forbidden knowledge. That’ll be interesting

Johnny_B

Nah its either First Sage or Eversmile. Who else noteworthy has he met that would qualify?

Steven Myer

It's always the crazy ones that know things they're not supposed to, maybe in the end that's what made them crazy. Or maybe we're the crazy ones.

Kirivina

My thought was the Wintermaul dude who wanted to marry Sylphie.

Sean

At the end I think you mean Jake’s soul and not Jake soul. Great chapter I’m guessing the first Sage is coming sooner than later.

Jonathan Haverlid

Startlingly! And Union Oath of Stormwild > Stormild

James Faulkner

Tftc!

Ryan Ulrich

I like the idea that Stormild as a crazy natural disaster with multiple personality disorder may know more about the FS when Villy and Eversmile don’t

Jonathan

inside the on-progress dungeon in-progress wouldn’t be done before after the Prima Guardian event. until after had taken time out of their day for this Labyrinth-creation day. had taken time out of their schedule for this Labyrinth-creation day. She was family. Asking her to redo the Union Oath felt like overstepping to him. Especially when one considered the limitations of the skill. Sylphie could only have an Oath with one person at a time, She was family. Asking her to redo the Union Oath felt like overstepping to him, especially when one considered the limitations of the skill. Sylphie could only have an Oath with one person at a time, Once back at Jake’s lodge and the two of them were inside, Once back inside Jake’s lodge, The answer being a given, The answer being given, the wind all around him, in this entire detection range, carried her aura. the wind all around him, in his entire detection range, carried her aura. doing something so morally incomprehensive the other simply found it unforgivable. morally incompatible? Sylphie just nodded as if such advice was entirely unneeded. Which is probably was. Sylphie just nodded as if such advice was entirely unneeded, which it probably was. Do you wish to begin the ritual to enter a Union Oath of Stormwild Stormild (although I kind of want to change all the instances of 'Stormild to Stormwild instead.)

Shadowessence

Plot twist it's yip of yore, he tired to mess with her and gave up.

Pablo Barbatto

Maybe she meant the Prima Guardian that's the only other thing I can think of

JJB4345_80_815

That's where my head first went, but if so it doesn't make much sense. Villy mentioned that no one else even knew about the First Sage besides himself and then there's that whole forbidden knowledge thing going on with the First Sage. Now, the FS's old boots somehow has karmic ties to all of the Primordials, so maybe? I'm going to go out on a VERY thin branch and guess William, the metal mage and former blessed of Eversmile. There's that whole thing about William going to Ell'hakan's world for some hidden reason. In the Bored Meeting, no one brought up hiring William so I'm starting to wonder if his rejection of a Primordial's blessing put him on another Primordial's radar and with Yip of Yore making waves... Yeah, it's a crazy idea and not well thought out but hey it's fun to speculate way out of the box

Matthias

tftc

joel southard

Nice thank you for the chapter

S.w.

The First Sage is buddies with Stormild!

brennon Petersen

Tftc!

Jeff McCulley

“a half-sie Union” >halfsie

Athena

tftc :) "done before after the Prima Guardian" -> "done until after the Prima Guardian" OR "done before after the Prima Guardian" -> "done before the Prima Guardian" Not sure bout this one: "to do a half-sie" -> "to do a halfsies"

Jana

I’m kinda sad Stormild didn’t prank Jake by saying something along the lines of: “ You may now kiss the bride.” Creeping Jake out like this and leaving him to explain to Sylphie what exactly she did there would be a fitting revenge for ruining the first oath.

jazz

Don’t think she’s talking about the first sage. My guess is prima guardian

Jeff McCulley

It’s almost certainly the First Sage, which leaves the puzzle for us of just exactly how she remembers him. Which is even more fun, since Villy just told him not to talk about TFS to anyone—including himself.

sata

Could also be that void god, we haven't heard from them in a while and it's possible stormild is aware of some plans they have involving jake that the viper either doesn't know or hasn't mention

Kt-x

Thanks for the chapter!

Klown Keidra

Could be something along the lines of creation. I would think it would be bad for your own records to forget who created you, or did something along the lines of what Jake did for Slyphie.

Phasmatic7

Thankies for the chapie zogie!

sata

Huh, the obvious connection to that ending is that stormild is somehow connected to the first sage, and we do know almost nothing about their history. I think it's a little too contrived tho, and it's more likely she's talking about eversmile or minaga and being dramatic about it to fuck with Jake

Strato Junon

Mutual acquaintance hmmm curious. Tyfc!

CipherFTW

and it definitely wouldn’t be before after the Prima Guardian- 'before after' Typo! Tyftc!

Taj Malloy

Tftc

JJB4345_80_815

Yes, thank you for the chappy Zogarth!

Zogarth

Fix

Pablo Barbatto

The First Sage?

Andrew Lavoie

Dude stormild is such a trip seeing the personality shift

Phillip Hazlett

TFTC

Naotsugu97

Sylphie is the bestest bird! TFTC!

Sam Irvine

Oooh, so the First Sage has been interfering with all of the Primordials. I wonder how Stormild kept a hold of that information now it's forbidden knowledge!

Apollo Greed

“it definitely wouldn’t be before after the Prima Guardian.” TFTC!

Hayden Leech

Ah neat, stormybird knows the sage.

Strato Junon

"on the structure that would have serve as the dungeon entrance" I think the have isn't supposed to be there?

C0bra$

Thank u

Chase Burton

Thanks for the chapter!

Mohamed Elshazly

Thanks for the chapter


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