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Chapter 1048 - A Harsh Lesson
🕑 Added 2025-01-07 12:12:31 +0000 UTC<AUTHOR NOTE>
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This was the first time Jake ever felt any kind of real pressure while within his own Soulspace and he took longer than he probably should have to muster a response. He’d nearly fallen to his knees by the time he braced himself and forced his body to stand as he released a wave of energy stopping the compression, and-
Suddenly, his vision split in two as he saw the First Sage stand with a finger pointing toward the ground. It and everything else was cut in two as Jake was perfectly bisected down the middle, intense pain flooding his mind.
“Slow.”
Jake’s body instantly regenerated and reformed, only for him to get blasted back with one of his arms exploding like a balloon of blood from him trying to block right at the end.
Just then, some of what slumbered within his Soulspace came alive. A shadowy figure appeared behind the First Sage, wielding a katar and stabbing for his body, but before any attack had time to land, the figure was blasted back...
Only to reappear instantly, but this time, there were five versions of Eternal Hunger attacking at once. However, they were instantly crushed as the space around the First Sage imploded, leaving the sixth – and real – version of Eternal Hunger that had just teleported to appear above the First Sage remaining.
A bubble of energy formed around Eternal Hunger and simply fell down on the old man as he lightly tapped it, banishing it to who-knows-where.
The attack hadn’t managed to touch the First Sage, but it had still given Jake some time to stabilize once more, and honestly, it had done far better than Jake expected.
“Aren’t you embarrassed?” the First Sage asked. “A single skill. A weapon, merely of mythical rarity, nearly matching you in the power it can display. Did I overestimate your Records?”
Jake knew he was being taunted, but he more than willingly fell for it nevertheless as he counterattacked. He still had no idea what the First Sage was trying to do or what lesson he was teaching Jake... but he knew that he had to fight, or this could end really badly for him, making the soul damage he took when he fucked up trying to upgrade Palate look like a mere flesh wound.
A storm of arcane energy gathered around Jake as thousands of arrows formed, and with a single thought, he sent them flying toward the First Sage like a massive fish school as they curved in the air.
However, right before they hit the First Sage, the old man merely tilted his head. The barrage of arrows flew into an invisible hole, only to get teleported right above Jake as he was hit by his own attack from a portal he couldn’t even see.
The arrows tore into Jake as he forced them all to explode at once, attempting to hit the First Sage with the resulting explosion before they all had time to enter the portal. At the same time, Jake stepped down as he teleported.
Teleported right into his own arcane explosion, taking him by complete and utter surprise as they evidently wasn’t where he’d wanted to go. The blast sent Jake flying, but he didn’t get even a moment to relax as the space around him twisted and compressed once more, and before he had time to properly respond, his body was crushed into a peanut-sized marble.
Regenerating instantly, Jake made himself appear down on the ground, only for said ground to rise up and crush him between two massive slabs. Immediately, he regenerated again, not even thinking about attacking the First Sage as he only sought to dodge whatever would come next.
Space once more twisted, but relying on his senses, Jake barely dodged in time and got away, only to get hit by a follow-up that exploded his body into thirty-nine equally sized cubed pieces.
Appearing yet again, Jake blocked the next attack as he tried to make some distance, only for space to compress yet again, making it impossible to escape. As the world was shrinking, Jake focused on making it stop, and he did successfully slow down the compression for a second before the First Sage gave it a good push and crushed Jake into fine paste.
“How long can you allow this to continue?” the voice of the First Sage echoed.
The old man had yet to move a single step within Jake’s Soulspace as he controlled everything as if this was his world. Jake tried to fight back but was constantly one-upped and had his body destroyed over and over again. Every single death hurt a shitload, and to make matters worse, he felt himself begin to grow weary with every death.
Gritting his teeth, Jake tried to do everything he could as he mobilized his energies. Maelstroms of arcane mana formed to defend him, and he felt his body grow more powerful as he dragged out more power with every resurrection. He was faster and more durable now than in the beginning... but every time he improved, the First Sage merely upped the ante.
“You are like an adult having only ever fought children. You’ve never had to actually try to win; you were just naturally stronger,” the voice of the First Sage echoed, making the skies churn. “Do I need to remind you that this is your Soulspace? Clearly, you can access it freely, yet this is the best you can do?”
Jake released a massive wave of arcane power that seemed to cover the entire world, but it was parted like the sea as Jake once more found himself cut in two.
“Are you beginning to understand my disappointment?” the old man continued as Jake’s entire Soulspace was torn apart and reassembled several times over as the First Sage kept asserting more power and control.
“It’s like you’re an archer who learned how to nock an arrow and then decided it was good enough. Like a warrior who knows how to hold an axe no longer seeing the need to practice. You stopped at the starting line.”
Jake desperately tried to make all the arcane mana in the sky heed his call, but the First Sage raised a hand as a barrier covered the sky, sealing in the energy Jake tried to move. At the same time, the ground below was seized and rose as millions of massive spikes erupted all over.
“But why would one bother to learn how to properly shoot a bow or use an axe if they are so naturally gifted they beat all their peers without ever trying? This is the mentality you have seemingly embraced... so much so you don’t even appear to realize you can and need to improve. And now you are seeing the folly of your foolishness and arrogance.”
The intensity and speed of attacks only increased as Jake struggled more than ever before. He felt his Bloodline seething as he pulled out all he could, making all his specs also continue to rise. Meanwhile, the words of the First Sage seared themselves into Jake’s mind as he was getting a good scolding.
Problem was... Jake had no idea what the First Sage wanted from him. He got the gist of it: he wanted Jake to train his soul somehow, but how in the hell was he expected to do that now? Practice took time, and if things continued like this, he wouldn’t have much more time.
Jake felt somewhat insulted by the barrage of words, but he couldn’t deny them either. It was true that Jake had never actively trained his Soulspace in any way; he had just relied on it from beginning to end. But in his defense, he questioned if the Soulspace could even be “trained” in the first place.
The Soulspace was just the world within one’s soul. Everything in there was a representation of Records and didn’t truly exist. That was why Jake’s body could get destroyed over and over again, as it wasn’t really his body but just how he viewed himself within his own little internal world. Same for the terrain that would be instantly rebuilt whenever broken.
All the other external things in Jake’s Soulspace, like Eternal Hunger and the drop of blood from the Malefic Viper, were also merely representations of Records. The drop of blood didn’t exist physically anymore after Jake had absorbed it, and Eternal Hunger’s true form was essentially just a mass of pure curse energy sealed within a form-changing weapon and not the odd fusion between Sim-Jake and the curse chimera Jake normally had sitting about.
So, with everything just being representations of Records, how the hell did the First Sage expect Jake to do more than he already was? He was already drawing out all the power he had, yet he kept losing out even as he was slightly improving all the time.
“You seem stuck. Are you truly that ignorant?”
For the first time, the old man moved from where he had been standing. He took a single step forward as he teleported, appearing right in front of Jake.
“Ask yourself why.”
Jake couldn’t move a muscle as the First Sage raised a palm and released a shockwave that atomized his entire being.
“I am just a mass of Records. This is far from everything I truly am, and what you see is nothing but a mere fragment, yet you are so powerless... why is that?”
“I don’t fucking know,” Jake responded with a growl as he regenerated again, this time appearing behind the First Sage as he attacked. He failed spectacularly as both his arms were merely erased simply by getting close to the First Sage’s body.
“Is it because you’re weak?” the First Sage asked as Jake found space around him fold once more, the old man crumbling it like origami paper. “Are you lacking in potential?”
That clearly wasn’t the reason, as Jake felt pretty damn confident in his talent above anything. His Records were of such a high quality that he felt as if he should be more powerful than the First Sage, seeing as he was indeed just a Record Fragment. Oh yeah, and they were in his bloody Soulspace, where he should have an advantage.
“You’re still confused? Why? Think,” the First Sage seemed to have lost a bit of his patience as he turned a palm toward the sky. The entire ground beneath Jake was torn up as a tornado descended and caught his newly regenerated body in the swirling debris and powerful wind.
The tornado began to grow and get more powerful as it even started to drag in and consume the sky of arcane energy. Caught within, Jake was trapped in a loop of death and regeneration as he struggled to try and keep his body from getting destroyed too quickly.
“So many Records, so much potential, so much power... yet this is all you are capable of, huh,” the First Sage said, waving his hand as the tornado exploded, sending Jake flying back as his world reassembled along with his regeneration, the gray rocky ground and sky returning to normal.
“This world is made up of your Records. It’s a representation of your Path,” the First Sage said, his tone calmer than before as he seemingly gave Jake a small breather. “That being the case, why does it look like this?”
The words sent out a shockwave that tore up the ground and also destroyed Jake’s body yet again, showing just how outmatched Jake continued to be. By now, he also really began to feel the strain.
He had died hundreds of times... far more times than the Demon Prince had back then. Every time, he easily regenerated his body, but an odd feeling of weakness had begun to sneak into his mind. A sense of tiredness that felt foreign.
It wasn’t the same as when Jake overspent his mental energy, but it did feel somewhat similar. It left a feeling of tiredness - a sneaking exhaustion that made Jake want to close his eyes and take a nap... but he knew that the moment he surrendered and rested would be the end. Granted, he wasn’t sure what would actually happen as the invader into his Soulspace was the First Sage, but if it had been an entity like the Cerulean Devil, the result would be Jake effectively dying as Records would fuse, creating an entirely new being.
As for the First Sage’s question...
“This is how it’s always looked,” Jake groaned as he took in the terrain.
“I asked you why,” the First Sage spoke once more, really not showing any kindness as he cut a finger across the air, separating space and cutting Jake apart again.
“That’s like asking why the sky is blue,” Jake answered, regenerating and trying to counterattack, only to have the ground rise and crush him.
“A good question... why is it blue?”
“Refracted light and stuff...” Jake muttered, on the watch for the First Sage’s next attack.
“So you do have an answer to that one. So let me ask you something else... why is the ground gray and dead here?” the First Sage asked, stomping down and splitting said ground as a large fissure opened up and rose to consume Jake.
Jake wanted to blurt out something again, but he stopped himself as he considered the question: Why was the ground looking as it did?
It had always looked pretty much the same ever since the first time he entered his Soulspace. In fact, his entire Soulspace looked like it had the first time he entered it, save for the new objects in there and the sky now being made up of arcane energy. He had never questioned why it looked like this, as he just assumed this was the default look for a Soulspace created by the system or something like that.
However, from the sounds of it, this wasn’t the case.
“Are you finally beginning to realize?” the First Sage asked, still not showing any kindness as he kept up the pressure by attacking again, manipulating the environment as if he owned it.
“Or are you still wandering in ignorance, unable to understand?” the old man continued, once more moving as he teleported again to appear in front of Jake and blasting him back.
Jake spun through the air as he was knocked upwards toward a First Sage already waiting there.
“This is your Soulspace.”
Reality folded and crashed into Jake as he was torn to shreds three times in rapid succession, barely able to keep his mind straight.
“A world created based on your Records, true...”
A casual handwave sent a palm larger than Jake could see crashing into him, seemingly destroying the entire Soulspace again as Jake was killed again. However, rather than focus on what was happening to him, he was focusing on the First Sage’s words as a realization began to sneak into his mind.
“But made entirely by you.”
The folding space consumed Jake as he didn’t even try to stop it but felt for something deeper.
“So I ask you again...”
Raising a hand toward the sky, the First Sage took hold of all the arcane energy up there and formed it into the shape of a massive spear.
“Why do you allow me control in this world that is yours?”
The massive spear descended toward Jake as something seemed to click in his mind. For some reason, the descending attack no longer felt as threatening as he reached out, and right before it hit him, he clenched his fist and stopped the spear.
As the spear stopped, the First Sage smiled for the first time ever since they entered the Soulspace. “Good... but not enough.”
With a push, the spear was forcibly sent down, but Jake was quick enough to dodge out of the way as he landed in the air not far away.
“Now for the second task...
Stretching out his arms to each side, energy began to gather around the First Sage as Jake prepared himself, a renewed sense of confidence as realization had begun to sneak in.
“Fight.”
Comments
Justin
Thanks for the chapter. First sage has been cool shit. Definitely a fun training montages.
Trumangolorian
Tyftc
Chloe
Tyftc
jobe matula
best fight yet! let's goooo
Stuart McCabe
Its the way Jake learns. Jake doesnt reflect on stuff after the fact much and only rarely expands or improves skills outside combat. Kick his ass an d hes forced to puch himself.
Daniel Brian
I didn't even catch that parallel! Think this is sort of an homage?
liquid_helix
That chapter was actually Morpheus fighting Neo, in the first Matrix movie. That’s all you need to know.
liquid_helix
Ok Neo, you think that’s Air you breathe?
Thenais
With lots of artemis in it
Gwiddion
Yes but as I understand it that training wasn't actually dangerous to him. Jake isn't someone that gets a lot stronger by training with out adverse conditions his largest breakthroughs come after or during difficult conflicts. This is such a situation the sage is definitely making it look like he wants to harm Jake by destroying his image of himself over and over causing a buildup of fatigue. For other people he would likely just have shown them that he is able to manipulate their soul space and told them he shouldn't be able to do this. But by pushing Jake to his limits during constant conflict that feels dangerous he will get Jake to reach further in a much shorter time than he would be able to reach with just the explanation.
Mat
Didn't he do combat training for like 40 years in his soul space?
Mat
5 charges for a ass-whooping
Caleb Palmer
I think you're doing the same thing as Jake. There is no difference. One can't exist without the other. It's the use that defines the words, not the word defining the use. He's a Hunter, why isn't he showing that? Why doesn't it present itself completely in his being. Because he hasn't made the full connection, you are your Path, Mind Body and Soul.
Mat
Why would he mention it? Villy takes a hands off approach when it comes to Jake and I don't see how this is any different from a lot of things Villy is aware of and Jake isn't.
Seamus Harley
Apart from the mess with Palate, I don't think villy ever saw the inside of Jake's soul
Ty Cooper
I feel this is pertaining to records and concepts of the soul space/soul. Jake has complete control over his soul space but has mentally put limiters on himself by accident or because he just thought it was tough enough. The records of the FS are strong and Jake feared them which put limiter and gave the FS control. He is showing him the concepts of the soul spaces and how he should have complete control over it. Which might make Jake just fix pallet or removes the limiters and controls it with better ease now. Lots of possibilities
C0bra$
Thank u for the story
Kuniku778
Tbh this chapter lost me, I either missed the point or have a misunderstanding about the difference between concepts and record. I thought records were passive, while concepts were the active part. In example, so to shape a soul space would need concepts about the true soul right? That would then feed records of it happening. Or have I missed something.
Gardor
Saying "Jake's bloodline only exerts itself when in true danger of death" is a ridiculous statement: Jake's bloodline exerts itself all the time, in everything he does. It's helped him make potions and fuse skills and shoot arrows and talk to gods and honestly, everything he's ever done. It's also reared it's head every single time someone entered his soul space.
BuckleYoPants
There's no shot a primordial doesn't know about personalizing your own soul space
kingofshibainu
I think this is a first sage thing that he didn't teach Villy
Martinus Chrisjan
Makes me think that this lesson will be a big factor in being able to establish a divine realm and become a god. Also, makes me sad thinking of how desolate Villy's divine realm is. Sure, some of it is part of his path, but I hope things improve for the snakey fella.
Martinus Chrisjan
The first sage is definitely a weird one. He is not behaving like "a fragment of records". He's not behaving like something that doesn't have a true soul, for that matter.
Troy Telford
I wonder if Jake's soul space is affected by Villys god realm and his blood drop - having more influence than Jake realized, shaping him more than is good for his path and the first safe is pointing this out to help Jake take more control to help him forge a better path into the future? I can't wait to find out if I'm close or not!
Martinus Chrisjan
You know, I do think you are right. He is now able to be and do whatever he wants, but his innermost beliefs of himself are still of someone that needs to suppress themselves and live a dull life.
Troy Telford
Oh! Very good theory!
Mike
True, but the more walls the better then right? Getting used to adversity and learning to overcome it.
Daniel is ŁØNE
I mean technically the fight against valdemars clone was kind of a wall, he definitely couldn’t have won at that point without entrusting his everything to his bloodline, and that opened the path for him to see some of the potential he could have in future.
Naotsugu97
That would be epically hilarious!
Naotsugu97
Of course it’s not best analogy! This is a work of fiction!!! The only point you’ve made clear is you’re a whiny hyper critical douche. The point is that Jake has WILLINGLY immersed himself in poison, ate a damn world ending curse, and fought his own damn self almost to death for training. Therefore, in view of the foregoing points, this is tough love for training. In order to push Jake to realize his potential, the first sage is administering a lesson to bring out Jake’s potential. Do you really think Jake would listen if the sage said “pretty please listen to my constructive criticism”? Good grief!
Sam
Not the best analogy since Jake actually has a chance to die here if he doesn't learn something he didn't know was possible fast enough. No one to my knowledge has died because they didn't know how to wash some dishes.
Greedsmith
Didn’t Jake view the world before the system, when he was suppressing his Bloodline, dull and devoid of color? Could he still be suppressing himself subconsciously?
BuckleYoPants
Huh I wonder why Villy never mentioned the bland soul space before
Azayrian105
I thought though that if there is a fragment of his records it has them all through the bloodline of the immortal mind? I can be wrong though so I’m not sure.
Paulo Furlaneto
Tftc!!!!!!
joe schmoe
The first sage really is a monster, the fragment of records he is using to absolutely body Jake in his own soul is bananas. If Jake really learns from this I bet his gaze would be more impactful having a more resilient soul to clash with.
Unlisted Pokémon Hudson
This feels like a domain expansion from jjk. A true representation of their souls and character. Jake’s domain is like an overwhelmingly strong simple domain without any of his own personal flair at all. If he learns to utilize it to its max power he could probably use it to fight with other people.
Hunter
It would be interesting if a cultivator’s soul space is what becomes their divine realm when they become gods.
Mike
I wonder if we are going to see something similar but different than how Delve works later in the story. Soul cultivation so to speak. Also this is a great wall for Jake to hit early in. We just had the viper talking about the problems with geniuses not hitting walls in his fight with Yip. It's important to hit and overcome them time and time again.
Hussein Zenki
jake legit got schooled 😭
Mr.Spooks
The soul space kinda reminds me of the UIs in the show Pantheon and how they fight
Dalton Service
Or he in fact is such a great teacher that he can change his method of teaching to best fit his disciples style. This is literally the best method for Jake to learn.
Xarow
Even for Jake this is pretty dumb. FS is literally having to spank him! I am guessing here, but is this to guide him to the fact that within your soul you ‘should’ have the beginnings of the same control you later gain in your Divine Realm? Jake even though his soul is more advanced than the average has gone and missed the obvious that in his soul he is already pretty much the god.
Joshua Little
Thanks for the chapter.
Endern
So it seems like Sim-Jake can still improve the Eternal Shadow skill. First in the EH fight the clone lasted longer then before, now in the Soulspace more clones are appearing. All this without Jake having done any dedicated practice himself, and seemingly not even knowing about it. Might this be the first Mythical+ upgrade Jake gets?
Obsidian Falcon
It's also this is the first sage someone that Jake himself has acknowledged as more powerful than him and only at c-grade some one the primordial holds in the highest regards. He isn't just some strong human this isn't in the same case as Jake's fight with the sword saint and having the reaction then that he was loosing to a lower leveled human. This is a case of he has put the first sage above him even subconsciously so he has to get a round that to have him and his bloodline react in tow.
TyranT-Rex
That exactly how I see it. Went to college with a few people who never studied in high-school and didn't know how to handle the college classes when they got difficult.
Krispy sock
Absolutely loving where this is going with the sage!! Great reading and man the Sage is one powerful person. Love it, thanks for the chapter!!
Rewdan
Thanks Zogarth
Naotsugu97
And trust me, they’ll think forcing them to help is punishment!
Naotsugu97
If your kid claims they are unable to help with the dishes or household cleaning bc they don’t know how, what do you do? Press them into service and make them assist you. Teach by example. No matter how much they cry or complain, they’ll learn. If you do not push them beyond what they wish, you are complicit in their failure to develop as a person.
William WIlson
Ty I think you missed a little detail. When the first sage said he could handle his full Bloodline at b grade was before the first sage knew the Bloodline evolved. I personally think that Jake's Bloodline in c grade would be easy for him to handle at b grade but if it evolves again whose to say.
William WIlson
Jake's Bloodline only ever exerts itself when in true danger of death. Jake's doesn't ever really get to that point in this fight. However I think this entire lesson will be teaching Jake to have more control over his Bloodline.
Adam White
Anyone else getting a Matrix vibe?
Danny Bagley
Called it!
Ty Cooper
I feel some of this is also that the FS is short on time and knows Jake will learn better under pressure si it works out. I feel this will leave a mark on Jake's records. Boosting his crazy records even further.
Trevor Mergen
Thanks!
Daniel Gesualdi
Souds like the sage taught villy how to teach if this is his normal style...
Andromeda Adams
Whoa! That is the best way Jake learns. Tyftc!!
Gwiddion
Thats also true the way Jake sees the sage definetly empowers him being able to do what he did.
Gwiddion
my guess is that jake always domiated via force and not technique as he is always never really tries to do sth perfectly in combatand always does it the most efficient way, which for him is pure power. The sage can counter his force with way superior technique. Both the curse and the demon where primal beings without much active thought behind them show them force and supress them and u have won. The sage is the first person appart from villy with the power and technique to counter jakes force.
kingofshibainu
Know thyself Padawan
Andy Swearingen
I feel like it's been explained many times that people like Jake don't learn correctly by just telling them. Jake is a learn by doing type and the first sage is teaching In what is probably the best way possible for Jake. Pissing him off pushing his limits and making him overcome them.
Matt Spratte
Now that you mention it, his soul space should be a endless forest right? A prinal forest right?
BumAssBumAss
Correct in most cases, but this is Jake. How many times has he evolved while in a dangerous situation? He got eternal shadow back in D-grade by purposely going to fight snappy. He got 3 skill upgrades fighting ell'hakan. Remember how the first sage was teaching Villy? The first sage is just adapting his teaching methods for the individual.
Jose Reyna
TFTC!!!!
Mason R
I think of uncle Iroh’s voice
Eric Rios
¡That chapter is great! ¡Hope every one had/is having a good holiday season!
LIMBO
Royal ass whooping
Ty Cooper
Or Nevermore haters. That was a good rant.
Daniel
I always thought Jake instinctively understood he had 100% power over his soul because of his bloodline. Why would this even be possible? He should've gotten this way faster and not even allowed the encroachment of his soul to be controlled by the First Sage. If ANYTHING prompts bloodline dominance it should've been this particular situation.
Ty Cooper
Yeah I thought that at first but every word is infused with willpower. I am sure some of them are Transcendent skills that get mixed in with the rest but not distracting Jake with that part. He wanted him to realize his faults not worry about Transcendents.
Ty Cooper
I feel all this in his soul is self imposed image of an unstoppable genius he let in. In his mind the Sage is unstoppable so he is unstoppable. The FS said that Jake let him do all this. Well asked him why he allows it.
Lynderyn
I guess we found out why Jake felt dead inside pre-integration
Klown Keidra
I think I am beginning to understand the strength of the First Sage. The only place the System doesn't have access is your true soul, and the First Sage made his True Soul the most powerful it could be, so much so that it could effect the world itself. Jake's Soulspace was always a utility, somewhere he could retreat to, to meditate and talk with himself in different ways. The First Sage is trying to fix this mentality.
SmokeJam
I actually despise teacher or trainer who are like that. Arrogant pricks with no fucking idea how to actually teach. Somehow it always works out in stories, but it really shouldn't. Just inflicting pain can't teach you a new skill.
Ty Cooper
I like the whole impose your will into reality aka soulspace. I almost feel Jake will be able to use his soul outside of his soulspace at some point. A part of his new found need to improve and strengthen his soul. Oh and I think he will be his Devine realm. He goes wherever the hunt goes.
Ty Cooper
He is constantly suppressing his bloodline and the FS said he should be able to handle it fully in B-grade. But inside his soul he has all the power and could possibly use his blodline fully inside his soulspace. Looking forward for what's to come.
Ty Cooper
He is like Duskleaf in that he doesn't put energy or thought into unimportant things. He did build spaces to fight the curse and sim-jake for practice, though. But they also could have been desolate mountains come to think about it.
Ty Cooper
Lol well damn. That will probably never leave my brain again.
KenTX325
So, Jake needs to turn the environment toxic. He needs to use some of his underutilized skills like pride. Turn the space into a maze, block light, maybe use shadows.
Ty Cooper
Lol the only way Jake seems to learn. By beating the crap out of him till he learns something or well banging his head against a cauldron also.
Rahsheem Reid
FS is still the best teacher out there!
Jack Dawson
Jake's soul being the equivalent of those kids at school who are just smarter than everyone else and who don't have too study to get good grades and then later in life don't know how to study is fairly in character for him
Dan Pangione
In Jake's defense he did kind of have a lot going on since the integration
John Durrett
Tyftc. Word!
John Durrett
Yes. lol
John Durrett
I can’t help but hear Dumbledoor’s voice when the first sage is speaking. Makes the exchange even better
joel southard
Nice thank you for the chapter
Sam
Is punishing someone for not doing something they didn't know they could do really tough love?
Steven Myer
I think if I had to guess the trick is going to be to move your soul space in to reality and you into your soul space, boom godhood! How you do it is up to you. (I Obviously have no idea just spitballing)
Rocotrap
I actually think the mistake is in "they", I think Zog meant "there"
JJB4345_80_815
Yes, thank you for the chappy Zogarth!
John
He modeled his soul space off of Villys didn’t he? Since that was the first soul space he ever entered he assumed they all look like that.
Noctis Uchiha
Do you think he will be a God with a divine place or will he be a God who is his divine place like the the primordial that makes weapons?
John Looney
If I remember correctly when he went to the demon princes soul it looked like a hellscape with lava and everything
Robert Phipps Jr (Perren d'Wolff)
also, its not so much that his control is absent, more like its lacking and the First Sage is just better as Jake never moved passed instinct to true control.
Robert Phipps Jr (Perren d'Wolff)
Knowing something instinctually is different than knowing how to do something learned. Humans have basic survival instincts that boil down to eat sleep drink and have sex. But a human can learn how to do all that but better. instead of just eating and drinking we can cook and make meals. Instead of just sleeping any random place we learned to make beds and sleep comfortably thus getting better rest. Instinctual knowledge is vastly different to learned ability.
Indevan Jones
I kept thinking Villy woulda gotten him a cursed watch from Aeon where he or miranda could set reminders. Lol
Robert Phipps Jr (Perren d'Wolff)
I swear I heard the old school mortal kombat music play as I read that last word, "Fight"!
Thomas Grimshaw
I think that is the point and is sort of spelled out by the first sage when he says "you stopped at the start line". He instinctively did these things because of the strength of his Soul but has never pushed that aspect, never experimented, again spelled out when the FS says "You are an adult playing with children".
Noctis Uchiha
Do you think that part of it is due to Jake not really uniting with his Bloodline fully? I mean he still sometimes mentions his bloodline like being separate from him. Also, being tied to his true race could be a cause of it.
ABTelford
That makes sense I guess - forcing a conscious understanding of his instinctual control. But why is that control so absent in this chapter? I’m feeling a need for a little explanation - which can come later, as long as it comes.
Steven Myer
I feel we're about to learn how to be a god....the hard part will be doing it.
Gwiddion
No Jake is just a vibes person but to truly be able to reach the pinnacle even he has to start understanding his power
ABTelford
Yea! I was thinking at first every word Sage said was a transcendent skill. Like in the vision of the void dweller.
ABTelford
True, Jake is comically forgetful, But it needs to be stated somehow, sometime for it to work.
Gwiddion
But he won't be compared for ever to his peers, same as his universe won't be closed off forever. He will have to face stronger foes from previous era's if he wants reach the pinnacle. Who is to say there won't be a failed a grade at some point that will try to kill him and gain enough records that way to proceed their advancement. Yes villy can protect him from god's etc but I doubt he will interceed vs a b grade. And Jake definitely needs to start understanding where his power comes from, what it does and how to use it better and not mainly go by vibes.
Justin Moen
Thanks for the chapter!! But I feel like it was a little light today… I want more! ❤️
TyranT-Rex
I think the issue is that Jake's soul is so much stronger than others his grade right now, that he sees no need to train it, or even knew it could be trained. This means he'll reach a wall much later on than his peers and have difficulties over coming it. where others might have already figured out how to slowly strengthen their soul, so eventually they would pass Jake in strength.
Borbino the great
I think the reason he did back then was cause his bloodline did the heavy lifting there so I think it was more instinctual? And now he actually has to use it
Justin Moen
Gotta remember that most people don’t even make it to C grade. The ones that make it farther are also all talents and have their own strengths. While Jake has a larger advantage with his bloodline, as we saw with el dicko, the gap in strength is starting to close. Not to mention Jake’s entire path is fighting significantly above his current level. In those later grades, conceptual power should be equally if not more important than actual power, e.g. yip of yore convincing people something is true makes it true. Not actual hard work and discipline. His concept of strength needs to change and that’s what he’s being taught right now
Clint
He didn’t ever know. He just went with his instincts when his survival was in the line. FS is trying to get him to see it consciously.
Gavin
He is absolutely trouncing Jake in his own soul space with barely any effort a feat which he shouldn't be able to do. That's because Jake hasn't truly found strength. That's the message that's been clear this arc. If you're comfortable with him settling for just being able to beat his current peers then that's the mediocrity you're okay with but Jake's path isn't about just being able to hunt what he can already clear
ABTelford
Edit: change “wasn’t” to “weren’t” in this sentence.: “Teleported right into his own arcane explosion, taking him by complete and utter surprise as they evidently wasn’t where he’d wanted to go.” The reason? The verb is modifying the plural “they”, so it needs to be “were”.
Gwiddion
Yes he trains but he only trains his alchemy to failure. As he is so gifted his combat training even against Carmen in s just friendly sparing matches. In my opinion he should have had hard sparring matches against the king or way stronger c grades like the wyvern. Your definitely right he definitely is a vibes person and doesn't strive towards understanding in any combat.
Clint
Tftc. Is Jake about to begin building his divine realm in just C grade?
Sammot
Tftc!
TyranT-Rex
I don't think the issue here is Jake knowing how to use is soul to suppress things. It's that the Sage is using Jake's own soul space to suppress him. Anytime Jake tried to do something, the Sage just took control from him.
JayseKnyte
Jake forgetting is on brand for his character. With how much it happens maybe he'll get a memory or alert skill for his development. Ding! Reminder to take inventory of your storage item. You have usefull shit in there!
Kjell
True but this isn't something where I could 100% say that ther is no way. I would totally believe it if Zogarth dropes PH because he just doesn't enjoy it anymore. I still remember his rant about the release "schedule" XD
Charles
TFTC
Kjell
Damm. Didn't even though aboutthat. Thx
Christopher Robin Sævre
Yeah imagine Jake just fucking dies and that’s the end 🤣
JayseKnyte
I've been wondering why is soulspace was so desolate. With how he wanted the valley with is lodge to stay untouched a wasteland for an into world can't be is preference. He just never thought or bothered to change it? Yeah, that's on brand.
Daniel Brian
Hence the wink.
Zack Leach
My personal theory is that it's the beginning stage necessary to create a divine realm and it cant usually be taught or trained because it would impact a potential god's records to do so. Look at Villy's realm, its a barren wasteland of miasma and corruption but it exemplifies his path and records. The holy land is a place of plenty and at the same time mediocrity where souls can find the material needs they desire in exchange for feeding the realm and church.
Baged
Who would want a serie to end that pay you 100.000+ dollars a month?
ABTelford
Ok, I liked this chapter, it was fun and a great ride! but… Jake knew how to control his soul space instinctively and demonstrated this way back when he got the drop of blood from Villy. It’s how he suppressed the drop of blood in the first place! He also redemonstrated this instinctive knowledge while helping the Cerulian devil. So I feel that this whole chapter is… false. Wrong. For this chapt to work there needs to be some comment about Jake having forgotten this - or something like “ how did you suppress that drop of blood? It’s like you’ve forgotten. Or did you ever even know?”
Frédéric Cantin
Tyftc
Staudi
Thanks for the chapter!
NSaaby
Slow.... as in the first sage slows down outside time, and they have more speed up time inside the soulspace?
Polaris
Honestly I think morale would work in this situation as well
Lion3125
Hmm, I'm not exactly sure that's true. Same as I'm not sure if FS isn't just spouting nonsense here. He's saying that Jake can improve (sure that part is true) and needs to, too. Which is the part I have trouble understanding. It's obviously beneficial. But needed? FS himself said that he can beat up all his peers. Now I'm not entirely certain... But wouldn't that still be true later on? As in: He evolves to B grade and has an advantage against B grades, and so on? Or is the training component too big once he reaches A or S grade?
Bi-Dailey
TFTC
Yahyo Malikov
Tyftc
Max
Nice chapter. Time for Jake to Upgrade His mindset a little. Needed since Long Time ago..
Michael
Do you think that’s air you are breathing?
Alexikon
Is Jake going from a passive Character to be a bit more active in his own story?
Mattheos Lee
Peak
Kt-x
Ooh! Thanks for the chapter!
Mohammed Sheekh
I sense a transcendence
Daniel Brian
Duuuude! Jake is going to come out of this a fuckton stronger! Unless Zogarth is ending the series here..😉
Karim Saadi
Jake's such a dum dum. He treats his soul space like reality, doing the same things as he can do on reality when it's his own perception deciding what the space does
Boomer
I was kind of wondering about any kind of decorations for the soul space and if it's basically the same as a divine realm
Bob of Doom
He does train and face hardships. What he doesn't do is try to understand things. He instinctively understands things, using his bloodline to learn. Since he doesn't ask questions it leads to situations like this. This First Sage wanted to understand so he asked questions and figured out what the soul space was. Jake doesn't ask, he just does.
Sir2319
Tftc
Will of the Wisp
tyftc
Justus Saucedo
I was right!
SetherAedekae
24 more hours to go. Tftc
Gavin
This is part of that growth Jake really needs. Like questioning what is strength. It's the qualitative growth he has been missing
Den
5 charges for a Training from Hell
mitchell kaiser
Dang this went WAY too fast.
Sailesh Kumar Kumar
TFTC
Loststar7
Thank you for the chapter. I always enjoy your fight scenes.
Matthias
Tftc
Alexander C Hyde
Teleported right into his own arcane explosion, taking him by complete and utter surprise as (it)they evidently wasn’t where he’d wanted to go.
Gwiddion
Amazing chapter finally Jake is shown that if he wants to reach the pinnacle he has to train and face hardships. And not just run into conflict after conflict relying on his talent and this dumb thumb from his bloodline. It reads amazingly hype when it happens but lately I felt it happening to often.
Grant Anderson
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Unwillingmainer
The soul beatings will continue until Records improve.
Naotsugu97
I love the tough love from the First Sage! TFTC!
Christopher Lee
Tyftc
Connor
Thanks for the chapter
BumAssBumAss
Thanks for the chapter
