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Chapter 1060 - Question(s) Of Trust

🕑 Added 2025-01-23 12:14:03 +0000 UTC

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Cerby 201

I can entirely see him going with either or.

Dave

Tftc

Trumangolorian

Tyftc

Cicero.A

He is not the chosen of the "hypocritical" viper either. It is fine if he does bad stuff. I have no complaints. But it is bullshit when he starts complaining about other people doing bad stuff.

vio

He's known as the Chosen of the "malefic" viper. Not the chosen of the "Holy" Mother. So not shot

Cicero.A

Wait, why is Jake complaining about the coldness of the matron's deal. Didn't Jake kill thousands if not millions just to make Elhakan weaker and draw him out? Seems hypocritical to me.

Greedsmith

“Fuck no” The Doa Sect maybe, but definitely not the Holy Church.

Phil Ritter

I really want Miranda to send him a message saying she was attacked and him using that as an excuse. That way he would loose nothing and maybe even gain something for not exterminating the church and the augur outright

Chloe

I'd love that

Chloe

Nice reference

Phasmatic7

Thankies

Lunatic Haven

No, Villy already said bloodline and true soul are 1. If they can nurse his true soul back to health and give it a body it should be doable.

Stuart Thwaites

I think they'd be okay on using what's left of El'Hakan but they want to use the children too. I imagine that would cross out of 'technically the rules' and into blatantly against them.

Little Silly

Once per business day at around 13:15 UTC I think

Flurry

5 cliffhangers per week, Monday to Friday, around the same time

Miotara

5 times per week, Monday to Friday, around the same time

Fast Lance

What’s the release schedule for Pirmal hunter I binged and then signed up on Patreon and this cliffhanger is pain

Asher Mack

That would be craaaazy. But wouldn’t Jake be able to feel if the bloodline is in that object? And wouldn’t the goddess or any other bloodline holders be able to tell if EH’s true soul contains the bloodline?

Indevan Jones

I think beasts or monsters use Alpha or something along that line in place of Elite.

Baged

Yeah, you know. The restrictions, limitations of inheritance, and the drawbacks—I think it's all true the way you describe it.

Daniel is ŁØNE

@Jeff McCulley that is even more stupid, The church will not start a war with the malefic viper to protect him especially not after his recent display of strength so trying to use them as a shield when his importance is infinitely less than Jake is foolishness on a cosmic scale. Killing Miranda is an affront to the Order on 2 accounts, for one Miranda is the aide to Chosen of the Malefic Viper and is also a notable member of the verdant lagoon, even if she wasn't connected to the order in such a major way via Jake and the lagoon she is important to Jake on a personal level. And Jake wouldn't hesitate to go scorched earth if he is angry enough and considering how much the Viper did the same I doubt he would not support Jakes revenge. Furthermore simply from a logical perspective there is infinitely more to gain by appeasing Jake with Ludar's head, let's not even try and compare their status but even on an individual level there is no logic in expecting protection. On a cosmic scale Ludar is nothing more than a talented C-grade and many such talents have died over the eras, meanwhile in all that exists Jake in many ways is completely and totally unique in his capabilities as Harbinger of Primeval Origins.

Stuart Thwaites

Miranda getting attacked at the mangrove was a continuation of Jakes allies getting attacked.

Lizy Flore

It’s building context. It’s building characters and world building. It’s building the bases for the next several story arcs. It’s something Zogarth do often, and it’s something every good story do, the building up to the climax. Without this « boring stuff », I can assure you, PH wouldn’t be a third as exciting as it is.

fruit dragon

Honestly, I think a smaller faction wouldn't get away with it, but because they're the holy church

Zogarth

Fix

Steven Crowe

Everyone inside and outside of the story always knew it was going to be a emphatic no. Just a waste of three chapters it's not even building tension

NovaZero

Lol. The Bloodline part?

Damascus

I don't think EH's soul contains the bloodline anymore. I think the bloodline has been dropped on the kill into that heart that Jake looted.

Baged

I'm guessing she knows she has a traitor among the elites, especially if he has been planted on the planet for a long time. The location for the ambush is picked by the elf, so she might already have something buried under the ground, making her feel right at home at the site. Regarding the bloodline stuff, I think you are right on target. The True Soul part? We can only imagine! :-)

Little Silly

Man, rereading this chapter after reading Tonken/Nature Attendant’s side story and the bloodline side story hits different…Bloodlines are a curse and a blessing. Ell’Hakan’s made him aware of and able to manipulate emotions, so it would have been impossible to lie to him to some degree. That alone can really fuck up a person, but the power to manipulate emotions makes it hard to imagine how descendants with it could end up in anyway helpful to the greater good. The church could, but letting anyone with it run free could quickly become a disaster. The bloodline works a bit like a plague, and it can create false gods which appear to be incredibly unstable. Jake’s own bloodline is also rather frightening, but mainly in its drawbacks to potential inheritors of it. As the patriarch, Jake seems to have extra control over it though. Similar to the side story bloodline’s ever increasing mana, Jake’s perception keeps increasing beyond what he can comprehend. Luckily it seems to restrain itself to protect Jake, but we don’t know how inherent that will be to others having it…hopefully that is down to improved instincts and will work the same for most. Then the issue is the emotionality of instincts and lack of logic. Besides all of that is the ‘starting point’ issue of not yet knowing what is or if Jake even has a starting grade and how that will affect him having kids. This Lodestar Matron’s bloodline seems safe and simple…but what about followers who go against their leader’s wishes? Couldn’t it make perfect Usurpers? It would be difficult for her to survive or even progress if she were a fighter. Anyway, I wanna see Jake pull out Ell’Hakan’s heart and it stealing his true soul or something, but he probably forgot about it or I forgot he gave it to someone. Can someone explain to me why people think Kindroth is suicidal and won’t side with Jake? Kindroth previously mentioned how scary the Sword Saint is, I don’t see him dipping unless he believes Sword Saint is dead or an enemy of Jake.

D3monEmper0r

She needs access to the pylon tho so them baiting her out would prevent that I would assume

D3monEmper0r

Not really, Jake didn't get on that time where the United city alliance attacked Miranda on her way to the mangrove swamp so the warning if there is one would appear if she's killed I guess...

brjenness

I agree except that the church people are blinded by being part of what they think is the most powerful faction. not taking the deal and making another "strong statement" about not ducking with him is what I think he'll do.

brjenness

yeah, if the god says anything along the lines of "hurry up and agree or you'll be sorry." negotiations are over and Jake's on the horn to villy after explaining to the church what is really going down on earth and getting his loot back.

Paperback Hail6

The point is the ludar sees killing Miranda as his only option to survive. It's not about smart its about trying to please the church enough they will protect him from Jake. Little does he know they will not protect him from Jake

KenTX325

I think Miranda knows who’s playing both sides because of William. I’m expecting a big trap that wipes out all the enemies. Hopefully she does it with style. I like the idea of it raining exploding frogs that insult your hairstyle.

Gman

Also Miranda should know thousands of people teleporting to the planet using the official teleporter. no way she missed that. Only reason Jake wasn't spotted was cuz he used the non-system teleporter made by Arnold. Nah she got this. lol

Gman

Projection of god. I don't think she can do much if anything at all. System wouldn't allow that.

Jeff McCulley

I think Kindroth is assuming the Churchnis about to eliminate Jake as well. After all, they brought in an actual god, and he’s just standing there.

Roy Boy Meyer

Easy NO haha

Jeff McCulley

He doesn’t even u sets tabs the point of it. Which suggests the Church is setting him and his posse up to be eliminated.

AetherBoye

Exactly, it's a promise that means nothing

NovaZero

Yeah and there was definitely a yeah nah in there if I remember right only it was a "Yeah. No."

Daniel is ŁØNE

what even is king Uldar's play here? regardless of what happens even if he does manage to in any way take out the few elites of earth while jake is gone, what happens when he along with every other earth powerhouse like Carmen, Sword Saint, Arnold, Jakes Brother etc, decide to pull up for a revenge match. This plan seems stupid no matter how you look at it, even in the event of success the best he can hope for would be a slightly extended life, and lets be honest the second he gets even slightly isolated with jake he is dead, if jake could go against a juiced up cheeto, this so called king has no chance.

Daniel is ŁØNE

Jake is actually quite a bit stronger than most think, remember he fought a juiced up second place with the inheritance of a GOD and not even a weak one either, and won fairly comfortably until bloodline bullshit kicked in and even then he survived that battle to the end despite losing home field advantage.

NovaZero

Ooooh good idea! Use all them Churchies and have them be fuel for the frosty wyrm as icicles. They get to pray AND fuel the wyrm!

Asher Mack

Lmao 100%. I thought the zog was Australian at first because he throws in words like ‘reckon’ and ‘mate’ very frequently

Arieh Sochaczevski

I can imagine him saying yes for the right terms. I don’t expect it, but I can see it happening. If he gets a divine promise that the bloodline will be developed so it is only used to read emotions and not manipulate them, for example.

TyranT-Rex

My thoughts exactly they'll just keep expanding and keep the brainwasher safe in church territory. Maybe even have people visit them to get "guidance" so he can influence people by having them travel to them.

NovaZero

If Jake was Australian: "Yeah nah. It's my hunt, cunt."

TyranT-Rex

Also, there is nothing saying the holy church won't keep expanding their territory for the next 10k years. So they could spread their influence in all other galaxies in the 93' d universe.

AfroMocha

Targeting the city leader would be to contest the pylon tho.

Tarl Reynoso

The Holy Church has offerred the carrot. Jake refuses saying "I cant trust you", then the god offers the stick of his home planet being under attack.... then Jake moves to "aggressive negotiations" tactics. 😆

David Proctor

Making a whole family of the mule from Foundation... Great idea....

Gman

Kindroth has personally witnessed Jake's power. He's too smart to piss off the strongest person in the generation. He will likely be a double agent but probably without Miranda's knowledge. I think he's going to notify a few of Jake's allies and when things look to be going bad for Miranda, they are gonna show up and stomp. As for Jake, there's just no way he lets that bloodline go.

Biggy smalls

This is got to be what’s happening. Jake killed EH. Kindroth is all in on team Jake. At least until there’s a better path to power. Which I doubt there will be in the 93rd. Arnold studied that ship they used for months to improve on his own knowledge of space travel. I find it hard to believe a genius like him wouldn’t have “bugged” that ship full of sensors to know who’s using it. If this isn’t a setup I’ll be disappointed in earths elites.

Victor Desantiago

I am wondering, is the term "Elite" only for humans or humanoids ? I ask because it think the mountain they are close to is the territory of the frost wyvern. I don't know about you guys but that wyvern seems "Elite" to me.

TwoMoreYears

Definitely a consideration. That said he did just blow up the planet of the last guy that crossed him so he’s sent that message too.

Ty Cooper

I have not liked Kindroth from the start and felt he was going to betray them at some point. Shady manipulator guy from the start. But saying that I almost feel he gave Miranda a warning, maybe.... That whole part about feeling the mana had me wondering. She might not have expected king lulturd to be the one in the trap but I feel she might have felt it or known about it. I also feel that the Holy Church is not expecting William to be any trouble. William might save the day so Carmen can go play with Jake to kill Jacob.

Nicolas Coons

Sonofa

Jaroslav Zapadlo

Oh no

Jaroslav Zapadlo

Oh no

Corvid

And he had to specifically request it

Joshua Little

Thanks for the chapter.

AetherBoye

I see your point, and while I totally believe Jake will be a god before those 10k years are up, I don't think that the holy church believes that so this is disingenuous on their part

JayseKnyte

Jake: That's a good deal, but I'm going to have to say for you to, respectfully, go fuck yourself. Ding! 10 lvls

Corvid

Yeah I think the exact quote said something about them being in the right by the letter of the accord, just not really the spirit

Jeff McCulley

What they’re actually telling Jake is that they’ll keep them at home until he’s a god himself, then he’s free to hunt them down. 10,000 years is way more than enough time for the Church to tell if these descendants turn out evil or not.

Jeff McCulley

To be fair, IF Jake were to accept their offer, what’s happening back on Earth could be considered part of the deal—helping clean up the Church’s mess in this galaxy as they depart. Getting Ildur and all his lackeys in one place for Earth to wipe out, instead of having to hunt them down. As Jake just said, it’s “cold”. Maybe they’re going to tell him this is the down payment? Whether Kindroth is one of those loose ends or not, guess we’ll see.

Andrew Plas

I know where it’s going that Jake is not going to accept it but still itd be pretty cool if he did say yes. I mean it is a good deal

Jana

i doupt its the replacement as the Viper basically just pulled that one. Nah i think its more of a "You think i didnt notice a formation like this? i m a ducking Witch, you nitwit!" Proceed with a I´m not trapped here with you - kind of situation as she takes over their formations.

Abhishek

Thanks but no thanks. That bloodline abt to be purged!

Bob Burns

Mfr... lol 😆

Tom C

Nah. Safest bet is to have EH true soul recycled by the system and then the System, if it chooses to, will eventually offer some version of the bloodline as a reward. If ever. The version offered by the system would be sufficiently edited I imagine. best bet imo TFTC

AetherBoye

10k years is a blink of a hummingbird's eye. 10 eras, take it or leave it

Xander

TFTC! "when the Viper had *remniscended* about if Ell’Hakan" remniscended isn't a word "reminisced" is and even that is odd in context because it speaks to fondly remembering something that happened in the past so maybe "theorized" instead? Since the Viper was speaking of a hypothetical. "She went forth to *expect* it, and" should be inspect And now I will go cry over my dinner in anticipation of my long weekend awaiting the resolution of tomorrows brutal cliffhanger :)

Andrew P

I think they're technically in the right given EH explicitly consented to this earlier

Fervent Fiend

I wouldn’t be surprised if Jake called out the Holy Church of the Milky Way to be in breach of the Bloodline Accords. Then he and every faction there is gets a pass for all the violence they commit against them. It seems to me an obvious political move, but then again, Jake ain’t political.

Daniel

The 10k years of staying in church territory doesn't mean squat anyway, if they start increasing their territories and use the bloodline to solidify control afterwards they'd still end up using the emotional brainwashing that folks found unacceptable. He could limit the number of offspring or have them shared with the Dao lords but most likely he's gonna go with the blasting approach.

Polaris

They haven’t contested the pylon

Jose Reyna

TFTC!!!!

LadyTempest

It is a good deal and he can surely get benefits from it but it would set a very bad precedent. It is alright to steal from me and then just placate me later. I see that being a bigger issue in the long run better off affirming that it is unacceptable.

Asher Mack

I honestly haven’t paid enough attention to kindroth the past hundred chapters or so… what exactly is up with the guy?

inkaral

So, HOW has there been no notification to Jake of the hostile forces on Earth?? Unless there's some blocker on System messages, how?

brjenness

99.9999% of kids with eh's bloodline will end up being manipulative evil little shits that try to take over their own faction.

kinglemur

From my understanding the only time the system reuses old blood lines is for specific events like the one Villy got the immortal mind from

LadyTempest

Exactly! The fact Jake hasn’t felt anything means she is not in real danger. Even if she dies it will be something similar to like when Sandy died and will come right back. That is another time when he didn’t feel anything.

Trevor Mergen

Thanks!

mrthorwahl

Fairly sure Kindroth is a double agent and that Miranda's witch domain now includes all of Earth. The army is walking into an ambush of raining frogs that insult you before exploding your face.

William WIlson

The only way I see Jake accepting any offer is by limiting the kids allowed. Like I could see Jake saying ok to this deal but you only get one child. First child should give the best results but it's no guarantee

William WIlson

The formation that activated during this chapter is from illudar not Miranda. I wouldn't be surprised however if that Miranda is a doll and is one shot early on in the ambush tomorrow. To only find out it's a doll on Monday and she and Neil set up a prison formation surrounding the other formation. I can just see illudars pov walking victoriously towards the slain Miranda to collect the loot, thinking that's a funny item for her to drop. Only to reach the item and identify it as some broken totem, as he feels suddenly drained and Miranda starts to laugh.

Richard Loveless

Probably not. They are no longer working together.

William WIlson

He literally has a spy among her guard. What they don't know is that William likely sniffed out all spies and the only reason this spy lasted was because Miranda wanted it that way.

Erik Bekke

Didn't they establish way back in like the 2nd book that if there's an emergency Miranda can make a change in haven requiring his authorization? Is that still a thing?

William WIlson

The vampire monarch is attached to a soul bound object which the sword saint has. I'm also pretty sure that when Miranda does the whole projection thing she has to use a doll she created not just any random humanoid. What would be hilarious is if tomorrow we have a decisive strike on Miranda at the start, leaving us to believe she dies but Monday we find out that it's a shitty little doll and Miranda outside the formation trapping them all. Like she sets up a prison formation around thier formation while we all think she's dead a Lillian is fighting for her life when all of a sudden the entire ambush side looses all mana and stamina control and is weakened beyond believe.

TwoMoreYears

I actually wouldn’t mind Jake taking the deal. As he ranks up he’s likely to need more and more resources that he can only get from specific factions. We’ve already seen that credits aren’t enough when dealing with other elites and that favors and unique/rare treasures become the currency. As dangerous as the bloodline is there are a lot of ifs, buts, and other things involved. Even Jake has acknowledged he can’t just go in guns ablaze and fix any problem. Just most of them. To me it would actually show growth to barter for something spectacular here. Especially with the knowledge that the holy church could have something he needs to help fix his soul down the line.

kingofshibainu

King Iludar is an idiot. Tomorrow, the eradication of every remnant of the Usurper begins (nice parallel structure there).

Jeff McCulley

If she’s “there” enough for her bloodline to work, she’s there enough for most everything to work for her, right? She’s a fairly high tier god, after all. I feel like they’re actually setting Jake up for, “See? Look at this generous offer he turned down, so I just had to kill him!” They’re trying to decapitate Earth in one go, Jake and Miranda. Of course, this is where Jake’s new soul space abilities come into play. No body needed? Perfect! The Holy Mother will miss this Lodestar Matron, once Villy gets done being pissed.

Indevan Jones

Ooo do we finally get to see what Lillian is capable of?? Miranda will finally get those class levels shes been wanting. Also wouldnt Jake be getting bad vibes from bloodline if this wasnt to plan or at the very least worried bout Earth?

Neneera

Exchange Ell’Hakan's soul for the bloodline loot, that way both sides get what they want. Base on how I understand it, someone else will spawn with the bloodline if Ell’Hakan just dies because the system recycles bloodlines so destroying the bloodline may not be possible.

Jaydan Man

But the holy church gets no benefit being antagonistic with him considering he is valuable to many factions. Also its unlikely he is disliked by the holy mother for this as its just one bloodline. Maybe this one faction of the church might be mad.

William WIlson

Jacob being an Augur is to important for the Holy Church to simply kill because they don't want him to raise the children anymore.

Jeff McCulley

Nah. This is going to be an “Oh, hell no”. At which point they toss Miranda’s life into the deal.

William WIlson

I think you forgot to read yesterday's chapter. Yes she is in her territory while on earth period. However she was lured into a formation in which stops that connection. While inside the formation she is no longer in her territory. I don't think that will matter much still think she's stronger than illudar.

Jeff McCulley

Actually, it looks like Kindroth is stuck in the middle of the “escorts” while Miranda and Lillian separated themselves.

Jeff McCulley

That and: “Miranda looked taken aback as she stumbled away from everyone, only Lillian staying by her side.” Yeah, that’s not posed at all. And we finally get to see what Lillian can do! But Kindroth? Definitely a traitor.

William WIlson

Deal isn't for the Holy Church to leave the Milky Way Galaxy for 10000 years they leave indefinitely giving its control to Jake. They also promise that Ell’Hakan’s Bloodline and all his children with his Bloodline won't leave the holy land for 10000 years.

BearHandMan

Yeah, but doesn’t she have a direct connection with the verdant witches, who are connected to villy who is connected to Jake? Could still be a possibility

Jeff McCulley

No, just the part the Holy Church is in. These clowns won’t get off the planet.

Jeff McCulley

I’m pretty sure we’re well past the point of whether Kindroth is a traitor or not.

Asher Mack

I don’t think Jake will become even S grade in the next 10,000 years. Even if S grade certainly not godhood.

Jeff McCulley

to expect it >inspect

AfroMocha

Jake got levels for the whole rule so how many levels did Miranda get?

Biggy smalls

If Miranda and Lillian get trapped by a force as mid as this on their home planet and die then imo they were too weak to be a part of Jake’s budding empire. Miranda and Lillian should be able to trounce these fools. Miranda’s had access to the planetary core for years now. She should have an arsenal of options available to her. I’d also be shocked if Arnold wouldn’t know about everything and anything happening on earth given this is his home planet as well.

AfroMocha

I would go a step further and say this is what that faction. The holy church wants so that they can frame Jake as this like dangerous untrustworthy person.

Nate Slusher

Wow that ending…..

Biggy smalls

That’s a good point. Why would she care about a new dungeon enough to go visit it herself when they’ve got Minaga building Dungeon city. A dungeon that’ll dwarf whatever dungeon Kindroth just found. If an invading army can teleport to a witches planet and fool her into a trap on her home turf that witch should die.

ABTelford

I like this possibility!

Phoenixdrop

Yeah I’ll tell you the answer THE FUCK NO

Beckendwarf

I mean… I don’t think Kin is a traitor for multiple reasons. But high among the reasons why is William, who can see karmic bonds. IIRC, that shit is hard to hide

Tr0LLach

I wonder if a God stalling Jake while Earth is under attack could be seen as Divine intervention into a Mortal conflict, and therefore giving Villy the green light. #feedthesnake

Vex

It's not a direct line, it's a ritual. So unfortunately she wouldn't be able to.

SmokeJam

You can argue though that a refusal of the deal offered by a very high ranking god of the Church will forever set them as antagonistic. Sth which might bite back later, it is the biggest faction out there

brjenness

kindroth represents the only aspect of villy's identity that isn't found in jake.

Matthias

Tftc

brjenness

most likely= zog twist = everything we see and hear says kin traitor, but he's not. possible= double zog twist= fight starts with kin killing Miranda. possible= double blind zog twist fight starts with kin killing Miranda, but it's not really her

Clint

Two chapters back, Iludar’s pov in 1058, he thought that the raid had the support of the HC. But. It could be that Kindroth lied to him about that. 🤷‍♂️

Clint

I think it’s a con too. The idea that Miranda and Kindroth would go in person to investigate a new dungeon is kind of silly, especially at this precise moment when the world is on high alert.

Ray Light

Or a rehearsed scheme with Villy during his chat with him. They might have planned something to oust a fringe cel of the Holy Church to get a favor of the Holy Mother

Nate

I could be mistaken, but Miranda has a 'direct line' to Jake. Jake has a similar communication with Sylphie. So Miranda calls up Jake tells him she's been trapped and betrayed by the Holy Church and gives him the ammunition to start some shht at the negotiations. He calls in Sylphie to help Miranda, and Sylphie brings Vespera along, while Jake goes 'murder hobo' on the church. (not really my guess, just one of hundreds of ways Z could take this)

Ray Light

Had a heart attack reading this😅

Clint

Or we get to see “Miranda” die, and Jake gets a message from Lillian. And we have to wait until Monday to learn that they killed a decoy or their attacks bounced off a disguised Carmen.

Ray Light

Makes me wonder what he discussed about this off-page with Villy. He did have a chat with him and Villy is an incredible schemer. So fun things are about to happen!

Borbino the great

If that happens the whole universe is getting blown up and the holy church with it

Ray Light

Otherwise it would be a continuation issue thing

Ty Cooper

Just think about tomorrow's Friday cliffhanger. Ha We won't find out about Miranda's fate for probably another week.

Andrew P

When EH invaded, Jake's instincts alerted him before it happened, despite him being much further away. That he's not worried suggests to me things are going to plan for him.

A L

cliffhanger 🍄🍄🍄🍄

SUlex

The Friday chapter will end with Miranda’s death and Jake getting the notification. It will be the worst cliff ever

ABTelford

I gotta agree. This deliberate doozy of a cliffhanger is just… gah!! 😵‍💫 Zogarth’s gotta enjoy leaving us hanging if he’s dropping the chapter here.

Daniel Kaltenbach

Now I would pay even more to read that

Santiago alonzo

I was literally thinking this like when sylphie and her parents were getting wrecked by the eagle his intuition was pinging him like crazy I’m sure if Miranda was in any kind of danger his intuition and gut feelings would be going nuts too

Xien

So cold zogarth…. What a doozy of a cliffhanger! 😂

LostinLimbo

Assuming Jake eventually gets control of the world wonder, he should ban the church people or charge them an exorbitant fee if he can for being so annoying. Even if everything is settled with them by then.

Seiryus

I'm pretty sure this chapter implies he did betray her. I just think that it won't matter, he's probably vastly underestimating her and especially Lillian, if the post-nevermore chapters are any indication. Edit: Though it could be that they are communicating telepathically throughout all this.

Christian Sullivan

[New notification]: Miranda has died. ... FULL MURDER HOBO

Andromeda Adams

What a cliff… TYFTC

Robert Phipps Jr (Perren d'Wolff)

well, at least its not a Friday

Samuel Nelson

Just talked to Z. Here goes: Maybe, duh, donuts, maybe, donuts on their backs, with the dude dressed as another dude pretending to be another dude, maybe, annnnnd no. Hope this helps 😇

DreamCloud

That's more than enough time for Jake to ascend to godhood and renegotiate.

Samuel Nelson

Right, with the sleeper agent, he couldn't just say it.

JJB4345_80_815

Yes, thank you for the chappy Zogarth!

Samuel Nelson

Oh, Jacob isn't the kind of guy to sleep around, right?

Samuel Nelson

Almost like they were let in...

Kt-x

Thanks for the chapter!

Samuel Nelson

I agree. Everything he was saying could have been said about the ambush. I'm betting they got someone there that can tell lies, or emotions.

Kain

Oh for sure, like including a line or two of internal monologue from Miranda noting how one of her guards is behaving strangely. This could be interpreted as the one spy being a little jumpy, and Miranda not being aware of the spy, but in actuality it’s one of the guards in on the ambush being a shit actor. Little things like that go a long way.

Jaroslav Zapadlo

I'm ready to unsubscribe for 10 years so I can save me a few years of cliffhangers. Tftc!

Jake Schmitz

10,000 years, to a person who potentially will live for trillions of years, is a dumb deal. He should counter with, "I'm planning to make you leave anyway, and you can't stop me, so that's out."

Mike

Well hot damn we are still in the air with Kindroth. Like others in the comments I do still feel like it could be him just selling his role to the spy or possible doublespeak. More so than what happens next I am more curious what our week ending will be. If both sides continue we could see Jakes final refusal and the start of conflict and maybe the Earth side twist. At the very least I don't see Iludar chatting up Miranda he should be going for the kill right away so if something is to happen I would except it to happen fairly quick. Miranda was working on body projections in D grade back in book 6 so this could just not even be her there.

JAMAJ

Oh yeah 100% the whole conversation was just a cover.

NovaZero

#4 Hilarious progression of all the above.

Jesper Hansen

Man I hope Jake is just as unreasonable as he find the Matron reasonable.. Let's go to war with the fanatics

NovaZero

Unless he uses it as a chance to create the perfect heretic plague. Let's call it... Faithbane.

NovaZero

Kindroth setting up King Illudar to flush him from hiding to prove his value because he knows that Jake and El'cheeto and the Church's meer involvement with them was so catastrophically offensive to Jake's sensibilities.

eatingpitza314

Aren't they at the prima thing near the teleporter.

SunStar

And when Jacob has an “accident”?

SunStar

That’s a nap to an immortal

Stuart Thwaites

If that robot clone isn't called M1R4ND4 or doesn't have later eyes and a rocket fist then I don't want a robot clone.

Jo

Can’t wait for the slaughter

Dragon

They took her out of the lair dude.. although I think the twist will be Miranda being far more powerful & having a much larger lair then they expected

joe schmoe

There are system contracts. So a possibility.

TyranT-Rex

The reason he doesn't just come out and say it is because they know there is a spy traveling with them. I believe the convo about the dungeon is a cover to fill Miranda and Lillian in on what's happening.

Stuart Thwaites

The tool that every form of entertainment abuses the ordinance with.

Jan Backhaus

The mere fact the church wants this bloodline so bad should be enough for jake to deny these offerings.

joe schmoe

Absolutely this, I think you nailed it.

Cperkenling

That's the thing, with her access to the Planetary Pylon and her position as the Earth's de facto regent, the whole Earth is her Lair. If she didn't set up anything to empower her with this power then idk what the Verdant Witches even are good for

Justus Saucedo

Yeah they might be good, but it's so hard to believe that even with kindroth's they were able to sneak by so easily, it's not impossible. I just feel it's unlikely

Damascus

I think the sword saint is probably hiding just around the corner, ready for this fight.

MarineDebris

Oh yeah, Miranda knew that shit was coming. "... as her eyes opened wide in surprise and horror." When have we ever seen Miranda respond to threats with anything other than a fair bit of snark, before thoroughly crushing their spirits? Can't wait to see how this shit goes down!

Stuart Thwaites

Even if he could use light affinity, it's not worth it. One of the few things where Jake and Billy agree completely is freedom threw ones own power and El'hakan's bloodline is the ultimate 'fuck you' to their ideal.

joe schmoe

They lured her out of her lair, but Arnold and Carmen are just hanging out in haven so probably going to be fine.

Blaq Jesus

I think a good way to hide any intentions is by being very selective with the inner monologue that you choose to include. It really takes any author "slight of hand" to the next level, adding even more doubt to the minds of readers.

Blaq Jesus

I think it would be wise to follow Jacob's plan. I'm sure he knows much more than Jake ever could regarding the holy church.

Hotep Saxis

The church getting out the Milky Way for 10,000 years is a pretty good deal, but I can't see Jake taking it.

Hotep Saxis

Sure looks like he is trying to, otherwise he would have been saying something like these dumbasses are over there instead of some story about a dungeon.

Rui

is the church actually involved in the Raid on earth? it seems like it's King Illudar's plot only, but he wants that to "prove himself" to the church.

Cperkenling

I'm curious what gives these chuckleheads the confidence to go against The Witch in her Lair EDIT because none of you have the skill to extend replies or memory longer than five chapters: SHE HAS ACCESS TO PLANETARY PYLON. HER SKILLSET IS SETTING UP RITUALS. HALF OF HER PATH IS ABOUT DEFENDING HER TERRITORY (WHICH IS EARTH)

Kain

Eh I think it’s more that they just want to put on a show and make sure the king doesn’t run away early. I’m sure whatever force the king brought has some capacity to scout so that he can make sure Kendroth isn’t obviously bringing the entire town of Haven down on them.

Rewdan

This would be great.

Rewdan

Zogarth, really, two cliffhangers on a Thursday, what have I done to you? Loving the work

Bartlomiej Głowacki

Actually, shouldnt that vampire king from teasure hunt be able to imitate her like he did with sword saint when Ell Hakan attacked Earth?

Clint

Embrace the power of “and”. It’s all cliffs until the looting and skill upgrade chapters in the broken ruin of the HC’s planet.

Jake Thorpe

I don't think kindroth betrayed Miranda, because Jake's bloodline hasn't gone off. When ever his friends are in danger he knows about it or maybe he has betrayed her but she expected it.

Martino Zanchi

I think Kindroth is a triple agent has it isn't mentioned that he distanced himself from the Haven team. Also I think illdur and pals manged to sneak in too easily.

Beemoss

Tftc

Martino Zanchi

My prediction is that he will agree under the condition that Jacob is the one to manage the bloodline and it's inheritors, wrapping this up so that he can swiftly go back to help Miranda.

Sammot

If miranda was jn actual danger wouldn't Jake know? Wouldn't Jake have felt some kind of bad premonition about going away to the meeting? Jake always felt such things before. Like when silvie was in danger before or the entire time before ellkahan attacked earth. Or in nevermore when they skipped the safe floor because jake had a hunch that they shouldnt stay. There is no way he didn't feel anything if mirandas live was in actual danger by him leaving for this meeting.

Samuel Wheatley

To be honest, I would love to see that. The absolute terror of comming face to face with Carmen of all people on the battlefield would be priceless.

brjenness

At some point Jake has to show the god community he is not yip 2.0 and destined to die by FAFO.

Ray Light

Well, unless he is claiming a bow supply up until God-Tier, one bow every 50 levels might be interesting but he has no use for Light affinity bows😅

Devillelouch

Most likely no, even though the ritual would most likely fail. The Miranda part is interesting because of how it is split up. I think there is code in the dialogue, my guess is around the group size, type of dungeon. Hidden Valley -> spies are in escort, Illusions -> Trap, and Level being enemy numbers. I will be disappointed in the Kindroth character if he didnt set up protocals.

Ray Light

Nooo! Cut-off point is too fast! We already know he isn't going to take the offer.. he's too proud to do so and not a trader who needs anything...😵

Cory Sauls

Hmm. What will he choose. Door #1 Peace, Door #2 War or Door #3 he senses an issue on Earth and quickly leaves without explanation or thinks he’s been double crossed by the church and goes full murderhobo and then heads back to Earth.

Tarodan

I'm 99% sure they're talking in code. "I find it hard to believe our scouts could miss that." "Level requirement of 280" "With quite a wide level scale, coupled with illusion, it doesn't sound like a pleasant place."

Sammot

Yeah but I don't see the viper stabbjng Jake in the back.

TyranT-Rex

I think that the conversation with Kindroth and Miranda is actually double speak. Kindroth is telling Miranda that there are people conceled around the tree and the highest or average level is 280. That they have illusion magic and mana disrupting formations. They are both aware of the spy traveling with them so this is kindroth getting mirranda and Lillian ready.

fruit dragon

Or just throwing this out there, robot Miranda clone from Arnold

Clint

Or the Lodestar Matron informs him of the ambush, and offers to spare Miranda if he agrees to the deal. With the same ballistic-Jake result.

fruit dragon

My guess is we'll learn one of those things

Julian

Well this isn't the cliffhanger, because obviously the answer is "Fuck no.".

brjenness

First sentence thought dawn kindroth is that stupid then rem spy also with them and kindroth did not run to his buddies. Set up...probably. jake...no idea...gut says he says no and it's been proven he can't trust all the church....so probably no

Arieh Sochaczevski

Thanks for the chapter! Not the way I was expecting things to go. Nice turns.

Clint

There’s a special title for lvl 999 peak-S grades who survive attacking a god. The title for doing it in C grade should be insane. But I doubt she’s sufficiently present to allow it, unless it’s a soul attack like Gaze.

fruit dragon

I think Jake could call somebody a cool Guy and then be utterly goddamn selfish. See the viper. So I don't think he's working against Jake. I think he might just be very, very selfish

Michael Dugan

The question is whether this is the cliff hanger or tomorrows is.

Clint

So many questions. Did Kindroth really lose his mind and betray Miranda? He as there really a traitor placed in her escort?? What’s Church thinking making semi-reasonable offers while murdering Jake’s closest associate back on Earth? Is that two different factions of the Church? What do they even hope to gain by killing Miranda, aside from Jake’s eternal emnity? Where’s that Desolation thingie? Is the Church planning its own planetary sacrifice ritual to try to beat Jake? And will we learn the answers to any of this before Monday???

Jordan Rogers

Yay murder hobo!

fruit dragon

Vile Damned cliffhangers

Pierre-clément LAMBRIX

I guess tomorrow is going tk be a new cliff chapter.

dragonslaver

The only way I see Jake even actually thinking about giving up anything here is if the holy mother herself would swear on her bloodline or whatever else she has, that cheetos bloodline will NEVER be used for anything that has not been agreed upon. And since she probably won't and can't (because free will still exists and we are talking about FOREVER) it ain't gonna happen.

Mohammed Sheekh

I wanna see jake attack a god with his bow, can you imagine the amount of records he will get

SilverSentry

"She went forth to expect it, and that’s when Miranda frowned. “This is no dunge-“ Should be inspect. Tftc

Jacob Conway

Please have Miranda be Carmen with an illusion around her. The shock and awe factor would be incredible! Thanks for the chapter mate!

Lawrence

And tomorrow he gets a message from Miranda saying the church lured her out and is trying to kill her and he goes ballistic

Sammot

I can't believe kindroth is anything but a double agent just on the fact that Jake called him a cool guy (or something like that, forgot exactly what it was). There is no way Jake would call him that with his bloodline if he is a guy that's willing to put a knife In his back if it was convenient.

SmokeJam

Hm this time I actually can't call Jake's decision. Both paths are viable and will forever change their relationship. As for Miranda: looking forward to the fight hopefully starting tomorrow :D

eatingpitza314

I'm pretty sure he isn't going to trust them with it but on the off chance that he does then the news that Miranda was attacked is going to change his mind.

Michael McMahon

Is there any chance Zog could be bribed with the promise of baked goods to not make a motherfucker of a cliff tomorrow?

Tilen Praprotnik

Thanks for the chapter

Unlisted Pokémon Hudson

Miranda dying is smth i think just won’t happen doesn’t she have a teleport Jake back button?

Ira White

Jake is about to murder a gods vessel at c rank 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

Frédéric Cantin

Tyftc

Mark

Really glad there is a chapter tomorrow…

Kain

How very interesting that the entire situation with Miranda and Kendroth was described with what they said or with modifiers like “looked” and “appeared” and not a single line of internal monologue for anyone involved. Still not buying it lol.

joel southard

Nice thank you for the chapter

Jana

Who else thinks Miranda set up Formations for Kindroth and that’s why she’s “well aware”…

Sailesh Kumar Kumar

TFTC!! I don't think Jake will agree to the deal maybe if she helps with Miranda then maybe he will agree then also I think it will only aggravate him

MrKorlares

Thanks for feeding my addiction Zog <3

Unwillingmainer

Better negotiations then I thought, still Jake can be a single minded bastard when he wants to be. Time for fighting here and on Earth. Guess Kindroth might have actually betrayed Earth. Can't wait to see how it all goes down.

Profile Name

Frog rain plz🐸🐸🐸🐸

C0bra$

Thank u for the story

Connor

Thanks for the chapter

BumAssBumAss

Thanks for the chapter

DarkKingLycaon

Finally first Zogarth is the reason I get up in the morning especially so early


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