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Chapter 1203 - A Long-awaited Conversation

🕑 Added 2025-08-18 11:16:45 +0000 UTC

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Asher Mack

hard disagree - meeting him gave her records and strengthened her path to the point that it never would have otherwise, and jake doesnt need to keep sleeping with her to make it stay that way. Just the fact they had any moments like that is more than enough to get the stone rolling, and it's not like he owes her anything anyway

Greg Alverson

Irin will be an interesting one because of her race and how they advance and her path. Him outright cutting her off could cripple her advance and i dont see Jake wanting to do that.

Bacon Sir

Strongly disagree. I have yet to read any haremlit where the harem elements don’t come across as wish fulfilment garbage, generally with no actual understanding of human nature or relationship dynamics.

tyler cissell

Yea... This is why I normally stick to haremlit. I get that he has problems with this, but in truth, I think him getting with Artemis is either a death flag, a sign to show the series may end and zogarth doesnt want to leave a emotional cliff hanger in regards to love interests(which could be 7 books away with how zogarth writes. Lol), zogarth intents for the harem dynamic but is waiting for the social conditioning of Jake being in the multiverse sink in as well as his past relationship with the cheating w**** to have enough time to work through his system as wounds like that leave scars and those scars are imprints on our mind that shape us in some way. Obviously things Jake perceives as a betrayal ticks him off as shown earlier in the series. This could point to him having a lack of trust as well as not wanting to go against his principle of even with permission it is still amoral because my principal from re-system say so. Honestly I hope for the harem angle or thruple relationship. Artemis as wife, miera as a concubine, and Erin on the side as the mistress as she is a succubus and from what I gathered they don't seem to be bound to any one but are sexually carnivorous.

Asterrahl

--Things are definitely still a bit complicated, but one thing’s for sure, I’m not gonna commit to that one relationship and not have any other ones...”-- Is this double negative intended, or accidental?

Bocsánat

Now do Irin. Do her!!

Shadowind

Tftc

John Durrett

Is that a Whoopie quote from Ghost? lol. I'm all for it. You in Danger Girl!

John Durrett

Sorry I don't get what John Kerry has to do with anything in this, certainly not voting

John Durrett

"Things are definitely still a bit complicated, but one thing’s for sure, I’m not gonna commit to that one relationship and not have any other ones...” I don't see that settling down. He has an official top dog main squeeze, but its not monogamous.

John Durrett

That would be really sweet if she is in a relationship with someone and was concerned how it would affect her relationship with Jake. I'm almost hopeful that she is so Jake can pull a Villy on them and bring them in for questioning. Big brother love.

John Durrett

Hmmm. Perhaps that's the intended feeling? :) Getting teeth pulled is not smooth sailing by any means.

John Durrett

And he can be as hard as a story board. :P

Thenais

Sinking team !

Bent Sommer

Team Meira!

Anonymous

Personally, zogarth please don’t mess up Carmen’s or irin’s relations to Jake. This could end up really good or really bad. (I believe in you!)

Anonymous

No. (Refuses to elaborate)

Dave Mccoll

Jake should smash. He’s the apex predator after all.

Dor Hanner

It seems that among two powerful people, it's more like polyamory. when there's a power imbalance, it's polygamy or polyandry.

Anonymous

Jake has the most powerful bloodline of all: plot armor

brjenness

oh, and he can also be a recruiter of beasts worthy of jakofication.

brjenness

I'd like to be spoon fed little slices of the kings life as we move forward. particularly his leadership style and how it changes after having seen iggy and natty do two favors for Jake. i'm assuming his path will revolve around leadership and ruling more then combat going forward. maybe, i'm wrong and he received a system quest to buy some shit for his peeps, but he has to be drooling over the vastness of the pantheon of life and even the order and what that would mean if he could build something like either of those. to attract the kind of people to build a faction like that, he has to invest and provide opportunity to those that follow him. just curious what is rattling around that wooden head of his.

Meir Banon

Tftc

Naotsugu97

Thanks for the chappie!

Joshua Little

Thanks for the chapter.

Michael Fannon

Oh, not nothing. We are about to see some wonderful drama.

Michael Fannon

Wouldn't give up yet. Still think it is going to be Umbra or Meira in the end though. Artemis just won't be able to keep up with Jake and will probably end things herself to not hurt Jake's path or something. Meira is going to surpass Jake in certain areas of alchemy and compliment him perfectly while Umbra is already a peak being and has a definite interest in Jake. Would not come as a surprise she is the stalking type.

David Luper

Actually, I think that this is an interesting story-line, especially given the life that Jake is going to lead from here on out. He is going to have to figure out how to balance his concepts of love and monogamy with the reality of extended, possibly billions of years of life, long absences from each other, pressure for him to "provide" his Bloodline from literally everyone, a general cultural acceptance for polygamy, especially for people in his position, etc. Not saying that he will change his character, morals, and ethical positions, but the pressure will be there and would be interesting for his perspective to evolve based on what he is swimming in every day.

Michael Fannon

Asking the important questions here. I'm ready for a few chapters of trying Minaga's new labyrinth.

Michael Fannon

Or she already knew because Duskleaf told her and was able to mentally prepare herself.

Avery Howell

Hey, Zog, I've always heard/said the phrase as "like pulling teeth." "Like pulling out teeth" is clunky and a bit jarring.

JW Saxby

Tftc!

Showbagz

So odds on Jake having helped Meira break the ice for her? She was trying to find a way to tell HIM she was in a relationship? At the end of rhe day, it's been minimum of 50+ yrs from when Meira saw Jake last, more if she has done time dilation with duskleaf. Long time to hold a torch. We also know a person whose path would definitely be improved by becoming a Chosens partner.....come on Irin! Totally hoodwink Jake and leave him stuttering haha

Daniel

He is going through internal conflict on that one. Artemis is chill with it, but he doesn’t really feel like it’s the right thing to do. Honestly, it feels like Jake never got over his girl friend that cheated on him in college.

NovaZero

Why are people saying he has to give up on all his casual relationships? Didn't his talk with Artemis explicitly put those in the pre-approved list? Irin and Carmen are in that column and as painful as it might be for Meira a lot of that has been because he's dodged that for years.

Kevin Watson

our boy is settling down. romantically only, i’m not sure it’s possible for him to settle down in general

NovaZero

Shouldn't. That relationship isn't fixed to begin with and she's likely to be his envoy to the 4th Hell

brjenness

funny to me: irin cuts Jake off cold turkey out of fear/respect for Artemis and Jake starts relentlessly flirting with her whenever he gets a chance as payback for her earlier aggression.

Ty Cooper

Tftc Glad this went fine. Curious how it will go with Irin. I still want her to use an origin powered demon lord heart. If she became one of his creations it would probably be better if they were not a friends with benefits situation. I hope Meira truly feels happy for Jake and keeps rocking her path.

Xien

… wahhh wannhhh… all that angst for nutten… bring in contestant number 2 pls lets see how the succubus handles it

Cody K

The King definitely knows about Jake and Artemis because he outright called Jake her "mate" when talking to her. Unless Jake is just that dense. Wouldn't be that surprising.

The 49th Khan

Dina is the granddaughter of the number 2 God of one of the largest factions in the multiverse. She's probably used to stuff like that.

Daniel Hamilton

Does this mean he’s gonna lose the succubus? They are fun together, and I am curious to what it’s gonna happen at the wedding

Rodney

It's a good thing he's committed in all that but I hate that he has to give up Carmen because I like their dynamic I was sure once they reached godhood they would have a kid together oh well that's what fanfiction is for I guess lol

Lemonsqueezy

I think she is still rather mentally weak, but is quickly growing out of it. I think Jake will always be a weakness for her because of their master-slave relationship in the beginning. Meira will always see Jake as her owner, even if it is only a subconscious thing. You can see it in the fact that she still calls him Lord Thayne even though he insists she just call him Jake.

Thenais

"you don't want to not vote for john kerry" kind of situation :p

Fall’s Kiss🍂

Yea I’m trying to understand if he is saying that he is open to flings or not. Well I guess we will find out tomorrow.

Anonymous

Is Jake gonna get better equipment?

Kyle Stitt

I'm hoping and praying for this lol

brjenness

did anyone have the talk with Dina about how people will want to get close to her because of Jake? poor bobo. he'll probably develop a personality like venom from all the stress. "can I eat him"

Thenais

I’m not gonna commit to that one relationship and not have any other ones... ?

Pekka Kohonen

I think the author botched the logic there. Double (or triple) negatives are always tricky linguistically ;-).

TKOva

Meira is going to go HAM, this is going to be her impetus to push herself even harder.

Dragon

Wait I am a bit confused, is he having multiple relationships or just Artemis?

Colby Whiting

I feel like Jake's intuition would have given away if she was deceiving him though

Gavin Wayne Pitcher

The word 'sounded' carrying a lot of weight there huh, lol

WhiteLeeopard

Consent is sexy. If Jake says no, it is no.

Sushi

Not sure if Meira is completely giving up or if she now has the emotional maturity to be happy for him and comfortable with herself while still being open if things change for Jake in the future.

Arieh Sochaczevski

Thanks for the chapter!

Michael Fannon

Meira has been learning from Duskleaf. Makes sense she is at least that cunning.

Michael Fannon

I figured it out. Meira already knew because Duskleaf told her. And Meria is fine with it because she can go after Artemis as a way to get Jake. Chosen of Duskleaf being one of the few mortals that will be going around the Godqueen ambassador afterall, and with Jake on Earth, someone will have to hang out with Artemis and Dina. Probably will end up inviting them to the "women around Jake club". Duskleaf is a good teacher afterall and he was taught by Villy. Makes sense that after a few decades Meira has become cunning and devious to get what she wants. Jake is going to be in trouble. Flustered, socially awkward Jake is great.

brjenness

avengers assemble when Jake is told haven is under attack by monsters. on their way they are ambushed again, but this time oras and villy are ready and it is obvious they just wanted to delay Jake when the heroes finally arrive, they discover miranda has already wiped out the monsters without even interrupting the paperwork she was doing through. as a bonus conspiracy guy starts digging into a new theory and is crucial going forward.

brjenness

for you meira is a weakling people...I know it's a common trope, but it is true that the talented that have been "special" their entire lives are often not as successful as someone only slightly less talented that had to fight and scrap early in life

Takoda Heitz

Hey Zog, I’m not sure if this is a plan you already have. I think it would be really cool to get benchmarks for some of the other characters as they reach peak C-Grade. Like I’m curious what a peak C-Grade verdant which is capable of when she goes all out. I also was wondering if we are going to hear from Neil soon seeing as he should be approaching the level of his Legacy’s original holder, Kallox. Thanks for the chapter!

echo.mov

TYFTC<3

Cees Tollenaar

Just a few bonus chapters

Shai182

TFTC! Well, Zog is going to do Zog, we are just for the fun ride

Ira White

Jake you're in danger lmao 🤣 😂

brjenness

tomorrow will start with a surprised Jake saying, "that's it?" meira responds with, "yes. I will admit i used to have a crush on you, but I realized we aren't a good match...you aren't very good at alchemy"

Timothy Spradlin

Maybe its a perspective issue either that or Zogarth forgot

Phil Ritter

That one confuses me too. Either there is a typo in there somewhere or he doesn’t mean second relationship as in romantic. Because if he means what we think was written there he’d be contradicting himself in the same paragraph. I’m sure it’s gonna get cleared up by tomorrow what exactly he wanted to say

ABTelford

Sigh…Zogarth really is fond of leaving us hanging. 😏. Nice chapter…but couldn’t Author have given us one more paragraph? 🙂‍↔️

WhiteLeeopard

I very much hope the Meira arc in the story is over. She has nothing to add, and I'm not reading this book for harem complications. I enjoy reading romance books and even harem, but prefer each book stays in its lane, only sprinkling some small bits from other themes.

ItWasIDIO!!

Great it went well

Sarianne

Pritty sure it'll continue tomorrow

deus vault

I’m not gonna commit to" that one relationship and not have any other ones...” Not sure what he means by that, because this states he's gonna have other relationships. Maybe you wanted to say I'm not gonna commit to" this relationship and then have any other ones" Because the other one is him basically saying he's still okay with flings?

LongMickeyRicky

Well 20 levels between jake and meira is different between say 20 levels between 2 other characters when u account for records and skills and all that. 20 levels isnt just a flat divider unless two people have the same class and everything. Jake gains more stats per level i think and the quality of said levels are greatly higher from jake doing all that stuff he does. I take levels as a ballpark benchmark of a character’s strength, with the upgrading of classes, understanding of concepts and amalgamation of records being the actual decider of strength

WhiteLeeopard

I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion. This is once again when I'm very confused with how levels work. Jake is extraordinary. He has become 1 in the all time leaderboards. Has 7 mythic skills. Killed the hardest Prima in all the 93rd universe event. Killed El Hakan. Been the center of a godly war. Killed thousands of B grades. Created new/old species. Meira is a fully ordinary person who has received assistance from Duskleaf and the Altmar empire but done nothing new or impressive throughout her time in C. She had nothing special to begin with and any other random person they had picked could do the same . And apparently the difference between an extraordinary person and an ordinary person in the multiverse is 20 levels?

Daniel

lol, Meira is so jealous.

IntenseSushi

Tftc

Don Peligro

It would actually be kind of funny to leave it as is and have Meira briefly get confused about whether Jake is making a pass at her.

Boffadeez

Gotta tie up loose ends brotha

Jared Bell

Tftc

brjenness

Jake and meira will both be relieved to have the talk over, then Artemis will pop in and after taking one look at meira and say, "you can add her to the list"

SPSTAN

Too short

dash w

Thanks for the chappy

Strato Junon

What?

Seamus Harley

Why is Jake unsure if the King knows about him and Artemis? In chapter 1181 the King calls Artemis Jakes mate and Artemis basically confirms it. I am confused.

Devillelouch

tyftc

Jordan

Lol no, he meant Meira needs to move on because being hung up on Jake is bad for her. How would we think Duskleaf is a matchmaker? Duskleaf hates being around most people.

Paulo Furlaneto

TFTC

DirePants

Never an easy conversation to have 😮‍💨… I have a similar one soon. It appears Meira took it well though. Hopefully I’ll have the same outcome. Welcome back everyone!

James

Thank you for the chapter

Alex

I am gonna. The not means Jake is refusing to be a one lady kinda guy

MrCynical

I mean, kinda? Jake never had any romantic feelings towards Meira, especially with his very firm beliefs in power dynamics. And while he's been ok with casual like Carmen and Irin he at least knew Meira couldn't be that. And even in Meira PoV segments her feelings towards Jake were always incredibly complex to the point even she couldn't untangle them at the time.

Dave

Tftc

Jason Hardman

TYFTC! Couple of edit suggestions: As for the King... we’ll he’d decided to expand his method of ruling to also include the carrot a little, -> well he'd decided he still sucked at putting any anything more casual when in safe areas. -> putting on anything more casual There's also the double negative in how he stated his relationship plans, that may or may not have been intended, but others have already highlighted that.

BlackRazaras

Thanks for the chapter

Daniel Wells

Thanks for the chapter

Jordan Rogers

Potential edit issue for clarity and grammar Things are definitely still a bit complicated, but one thing’s for sure, I’m not gonna commit to that one relationship and not have any other ones...” Things are definitely still a bit complicated. One thing’s for sure, I’m not gonna commit to that one relationship and still have other ones...” Or Things are definitely still a bit complicated. One thing’s for sure, I’m committed to that one relationship and I can’t do that while having other ones...” Or fan service Things are definitely still a bit complicated. One thing’s for sure, I’m committed to that one relationship and whilestill having other ones… on the mortal side…”

Roy

Thanks for the chapter Zogarth 🙏 Looking forward to this week's happenings

Sylphie

Ree!

Eric

Yeah same, I think he just means that he can’t commit to that relationship if he still has other superficiel things going on in the background

Cyranosaurus

Duskleaf said he thought this situation was best for Meira and that makes me think she needs a few relationships first and so does Jake. Thinking S maybe A grade if there is ever a Jake and Meira…..she will either save his life in some world wonder or his entire party in some fight or world wonder I think. It just feels like too many conversations between the Viper and Duskleqf hint that Duskleqf has skills in this match making area so I think he has a plan that even Jake can’t predict and eventually Meira will succeed and Duskleqf will win another bet vs the Viper🤣

Cory S.

TFTC! One question. “Things are definitely still a bit complicated, but one thing’s for sure, I’m not gonna commit to that one relationship and not have any other ones...”” I thought Jake was telling Meira that he was committed to his relationship with Artemis and didn’t want their to be anything left unsaid between him and Meira but this quote makes it sound like Jake isn’t going to be monogamous. Am I reading that wrong? Reads like he is saying he isn’t going to commit to that one relationship with Artemis and also not have any other relationships. I am confused by this sentence.

Jordan

That’s not true, it was well established that Meira had a crush on Jake and he was understandably not sure how she’d take the news, even if we all knew she’d be fine.

Andyr98

I know how it may feel like this is all of a sudden or anticlimactic with mieras reaction but remember to her she was gone for 50 years all the main party changed alot even Jake did during nevermore so im glad she matured alot from the girl who was freed from slavery and had a crush on her savior to the confidence of a chosen

Andyr98

Well him and meira don't really fit anyways and irin is really jusy a gold digger and she is proud of it so it was clear that neither of them would have been good partners only one you would have fit is Carmen but it was made clear they where nothing more then just friends with benefits

CT

Unless it is intentionally written as Jake didn't notice and Meira thinks there is still a chance this looks like he WILL have other relationships which doesn't fit his thoughts. "I’m not gonna commit to that one relationship and not have any other ones...”"

Biggy smalls

Ngl, felt like a filler chapter to me? Hopefully we get back to progressing in some fashion tomorrow?

Almer Reyhan

Is it just me or this chapter is shorter?

Jason

I’m waiting in line at a government office. I guarantee I was more excited to see the chapter than you ;)

Frederik

zog should write a book about meiras nevermore journey i bet it would sell like crazy people just cant get enough of it XD

Hanson

I think this has too many nots in it. Right now it implies that Jake will have other relationships, and means the opposite of 'I'm going to commit to this relationship and not have any others.' "Things are definitely still a bit complicated, but one thing’s for sure, I’m not gonna commit to that one relationship and not have any other ones...”

WantedByGhosts

Thanks for the chapter! I'm a little confused on this line 'I’m not gonna commit to that one relationship and not have any other ones...” I feel like there's an extra "not"? But thanks for the chapter again! :)

Cameron Taylor

Please no. If we get a Meira POV I don't want to be one where Jake even gets mentioned.

Luboš Hemala

I hope someone will bonk him on the head.

Xander

TFTC :) Suggested edits: "sucked at putting *any* anything more casual" should be "on" "I’m *not* gonna commit to that one relationship and *not* have any other ones..." One of these is an extra word otherwise this sentence has the exact opposite meaning than has previously been presented as Jakes attitude.

Eric Rasputin

Jake's acting like an insecure little kid. Never understood why he even felt this way about Meira when all of their previous interactions never suggested any romantic tension.

Cameron Taylor

The only good thing about this is that Irin and Meira both deserve better than Jake anyway. In fact... Meira has plenty of status for Irin...

Arnold Grobler

Tftc, excited to see Meira's Pov

joel southard

Thank you for the chapter

Alex Webb

Tftc!!!

Nimuie

is it just me or does the "not" in "... I’m not gonna commit to that one relationship and not have any other ones...”" not make sense based on the paragraph? it should be "... I’m gonna commit to that one relationship and not have any other ones...” based on "...Okay, she did say she would give some leeway, but I don’t really want to do that, as it feels wrong, especially..." or am I not getting this?

Michael Fannon

Good chappy.

Tyler S.

I remember mine and the wall of dread that awaits as you then have to climb yourself through day by day

Sogala

I am very glad he commits to 1 relationship only...but this thing with Meira feels kind of anticlimactic somehow. Probably because it was build-up for so long. Thank you for the chapter

Matthias

Tftc

tom husband

I’d imagine she still gets more than enough records and levels from being his HR rep to continue to progress at least somewhat

Abdulaziz ALRumaih

but one thing’s for sure, I’m not gonna commit to that one relationship and not have any other ones...” I think that there should not be a “not”

Phallusar

The moment the will they won't they tension drains and a character fades into an NPC.

Kevin Lindberg

First charter i had to wait for! Ran through everything here i like a week! Thanks for an amazing series!

Fdrugc

Tftc I'm happy for Meira also shouldn't there have been a ilusion of the space pineapple?

Posiden 300

So the sucubus who changed her path is screwed lol or is it because its her path its ok??? Honestly not a fan of this but whatever.

Strato Junon

Woo meira. Glad she's over that crush. Lovely to see the character develop well. Tyfc

Kt-x

Thanks for the chapter!

C0bra$

Thank I for the story

Gabe Stankiewicz

It’s so funny how I’m in the shower before work and the second I got the notification I went “woooo!!!!! Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme!!” Lmaoo I get way too hyped to read every single chapter! Thank you for the chapter zog! 💜🙏🙏

Loststar7

Happy Monday and TFTC

Beemoss

Tftc

Connor

Thanks for the chapter

Kelvin Garcia

First!


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