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506. Ander’s Sons: The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou

🕑 Added 2022-07-15 13:01:05 +0000 UTC

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Small Beans

I like this!

Arlo

I take Ned’s death as Steve having permanently blown an opportunity for meaningful connection. Recontextualizes his earlier pettiness and hesitance as stupid folly (which also primes him for the final shark encounter)

Zac Schwartz

Wait, Swaim's voice in the opening bit is supposed to be frustrated? I genuinely thought he was doing "constipated" until now

gromolko

Does he forgive the shark? I've always interpreted it as "That thing is to big, nothing to be done here". The insight that you can't fight or take revenge on fate.

Small Beans

Very good insight!

Joshua Graves

Been looking forward to this one. As odd as ot may sound, this is my favorite movie.

Kylancomeault

I think Ned had to die because it adds a layer of complexity to forgiving Steve. You guys reference the helicopter crash as an accident or something that could have been random, but in the film it's not random, it happens because Murray as the owner operator of the helicopter hadn't maintained it for a decade. The crash is directly his fault much like his treatment of Ned and everyone else in his life. It shows that some of his harms were truly not something that he could take back and that regardless of Ned forgiving him, doesn't absolve himself in his own eyes. That's why he forgives the shark in my opinion. because it's him forgiving the shark for something that can't be taken back and it makes him feel that his wrongs might be worthy of forgiveness,