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Ramble: Prejudice Allegories in Children’s Media

🕑 Added 2024-08-31 19:31:03 +0000 UTC

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Mary Rose

I saw Milo Manheim (Zed from Zombies) in little shop of horrors off broadway and he was amazing. I also love zombies I get so excited when people talk about it

Kevin Morris

Kind of a funny video to revisit now that Zootopia 2 is the 9th highest grossing film ever made.

DrillSharkPrincess

Descendants is an allegory for Australia

DrillSharkPrincess

Everything I learn about Z O M B I E S just reaffirms my belief that it’s just Kids Bop Beastars

Jem Swagbird

When Jenny talks about the sexyness of that evil dog I can’t help but be reminded of Michael Scott talking about Ryan

Clinton Weir

I saw Fox and the Hound sooo many times growing up because my little sister loved the movie. I, too, thought it was screwed up that the man and woman are together at the end. In my head canon, she is tormenting him, rather than genuinely helping him recover. She deliberately screwed up the cast so he will never heal properly, and she's mixing just a tiny amount of dog shit into his food. If they make a chronological sequel, it will be about the widow going to prison for murdering him. She'll join a gang called the foxes, and their rival gang will be the hounds, and she'll make friends with one of the hounds, and... and so on.

Lxmony

My english teacher in the 6th grade was the mother of the little sister zombie of the male lead in the hit enduring classic DCOM movie Z-O-M-B-I-E-S and would constantly talk about how hard it was to go from Las Vegas (where i went to school) to Los Angeles back and forth for her children’s acting. Her son was also a child actor but he was apparently only in commercials and you better believe an entire day in class was devoted to watching all his Liberty Mutual commercials (in which he had no lines) and another separate day she just put on Z-O-M-B-I-E-S to watch in its entirety and in which her daughter had like 5 lines and 10 minutes of screen time. Apparently the male lead really dyed his hair for the role but the little girl wore a wig instead. Riveting. She stopped being a teacher there the year after and Z-O-M-B-I-E-S had only come out like that year or the year prior so I guess this is a unique experience. Miss Foster I still think about you. I learned nothing that year because she was a terrible teacher in general so good riddance

Shamhatty

yess i think so too. but then it also doesnt make much sense because men being viewed as agressive and predatory isnt a form of opressionn for them (like it clearly is for marginalized racial groups). so its like both groups are minorities in the story representing two different and unrelated minority groups irl (women and poc ig). it doesnt make sense because that not how real structural racism works so by trying to make it a "both sides hate each other" thing while also inserting elements from real life oppresion makes such a weird mess of a movie

Laura Camacho

I feel like the predator/prey divide in zootopia makes more sense as a sex allegory. predators as men, prey as women. predators = viewed as more aggressive, yet more suitable leaders somehow

Elisha Summers

I'm like so sure the dream mall at 1:02:07 is just Meow Wolf Denver

Grady

It’s very not good

Iris Celestine

The Balto slander is a rare miss from Jenny (I haven't seen Balto since I was a kid and have no idea how it holds up but it's very special to me)

Succulent Creams

In fairness to Simba, Kovu was trained from a young age to assassinate him and was fully planing to do so until he incidentally fell in love with Kiara. I feel like Simba had a point.

leonineKelter

So much for "no sequel". Zootopia 2 is allegedly in the works now

Tom

It felt to me like a missed opportunity when Jenny unironically noted that "[Disney has] a lot of blonde actresses who look a lot like each other" while discussing prejudice in media.

Ella Taran

high praise for zombies I KNOWWWWW THAT IS RIGHT

Jay_d

I think the more impactful message Zootopia sends is yes, maybe you can do anything you dream of, but it might be harder for you than your neighbor. Maybe they should have leaned into that more.

Markus D

Hard disagree on "Cats Don't Dance" being less fun than Zootopia. I always thought it was kind of boring—definitely one of those movies that a lot of animation fans like to recommend, but unlike The Iron Giant or Treasure Planet, CDD really lacked heart to me. It felt very surface-level.

Eskana Kana

No "Cats Don't Dance"? When Zootopia came out, I felt like it was a less fun, sadly musicless version of "Cats Don't Dance," and of course the confusing allegory of "don't stereotype" even though the animals are all true to stereotype. Personally, I love Balto! I think the allegory works well, but it's just not racism but stereotyping in general. I loved Muk, Luk, and Boris, but I do have to agree about the pointlessness of Jenna. I felt like the wolf scene was meant to represent Balto accepting his wolf heritage, and then he uses it to help him survive and lead the dogs home. Works for me!

Jeff Bruns

Cars 3 is about Race-ism😅😅🏎🏎

heyitzmae

an example i think is actually pretty good of a prejudice allegory in kids media is that episode of spongebob where he’s doing stand up and his entire set is making squirrel racist jokes, and then the townspeople start treating sandy differently. idk i think it’s just a lot more nuanced and reflective of how racism often manifests in real life, with “harmless jokes” gradually molding people’s opinions